Ultimate lesbian heroine poll forgets lesbians, heroines

That is pathetic. Sounds like something mainstream society would do to the lesbians.

They have two heterosexual women portraying lesbians for pay but there are millions of lesbians in this world and a good percentage of those are actually in the entertainment industry...why not find them and choose them? Shame!

This is just as bad as when Katy Perry was placed on a cover of a gay magazine instead of an actual lesbian!

I can't think of any lesbian heroines I will come back later to post some. :D

Well it depends on whether by "lesbian heroine" they mean a heroine to the lesbians or a heroine that's a lesbian or, like it seems to be the case here, just about anything else. Personally, a lot of people would appear before I would even THINK of Janet Jackson or let's say... Dolly Parton? Really?

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Either the people doing the polling didn't ask the right question the right way, or the alleged lesbians that were polled didn't understand the question. The inclusion of Britney Spears alone speaks to the inaccuracy of the polling. 

No Tina Fey? Seriously? 

Besides that, why does any lesbian still care about Angelina Jolie? Her acting career peaked out of the gate. She went from "Gia" to ubiquitous sexpot. It's time to move on, ladies.   

Because you know how some magazines are:

Journalist A: "Couldn't find enough lesbians, what now?"

Journalist B: "Oh, find some bisexuals."

Journalist A: "Can't find many of those either."

Journalist B: "Go to a college campus, even if they think they might be bi, interview them."

Problem solved.  Nothing against the bi ladies, but I'm more thinking the girls who are what I call BFBF (Bi For BoyFriend) or simply have had a fantasy or two and think that makes them bi.  I also think you're right about the gay boys sneaking in.  What lesbian really thinks Liza Manelli is a lesbian hero?  Or either?  Also, I have to wonder at the format.  Did the interviewers just put a whole bunch of names on a sheet of paper and ask people to circle their top 10?  I'd almost be willing to bet that's what happened.  I mean, how many women of any age among lesbians would bring Dolly to mind right off the top?  Surelly we can think up 10 recent people...

Unless the directions got addled.  You know, some people may have thought, "Who looks like a lesbian, who might be a lesbian, etc."  It's the only thing I can think of.  Age probably played a part as well.

Or it could just be a giant prank played by drunk frat boys....

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Ok I agree with the Pink, Jolie, Ellen....obviously, but the rest. huh?

Cher? Britney? Dolly? Liza?...Gremaine Greer!!??!!! WTF!! Really!!?? Seriously!?!! 

I'm totally confused - were these 2600 actually lesbians or were they told a different question?! 

I was actually saying these names in shock out loud and then progressively getting louder as the list went on...wrong, oh so very very wrong. I'm now left flabbergasted!

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I mean really, who do these "lesbians" listen to anyway? You will never catch me saying one bad thing about Dolly Parton...LOVE HER!! But, like you, Beyonce & Britney?! I can go for Cyndi and some others being on the list because of their fierce advocacy for our rights, but I have my doubts about the validity of these results.

Ok really now... just.. wow.

There is no way. I mean for Lady Gaga to be on here says a lot... i mean, of course lesbians are going to nominate an artist that sings about riding disco sticks.... 

personally i love beyonce... but she didnt come to my mind when considering the top 20. but why does it matter this much who these lesbians picked... so what if loads of them liked britney spears and germaine greer... do we all have to like the same people or regard them our heroines to be credible as lesbians? i mean if theyre choosing janet jackson and gwen stefani as their heroines, doesnt it just bring their judgment of people into question rather than their sexuality? surely lesbians are allowed to be just as ridiculous as anyone else when selecting their "heroines"... but it's not fair to then say, well cos this is who they selected then it's not really representative of a lesbian population... why limit ourselves to only a select few we would choose from? i mean it would be nice to see our own heroines represented in a poll that is supposedly a lesbian poll... but isnt it better to not restrict ourselves? i dno...but id have personally loved to see portia de rossi and leisha hailey up on there - but we should have our own AE poll and put them on there 

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I, for one, never understood the enthusiasm around Uh Huh Her (even though I think Leisha Hailey is absolutely brilliant) or Tegan and Sara but what bothers me here is the fact that they only interviewed 2600 girls and said "okay, this is what lesbians like". If they're going to try and analyze the "lgbt community" I'd like them to at least make it a little bit more accurate. 

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What about Tina Fey? She aboviously isn't a lesbian but who doesn't love her? She didn't have a problem playing a character (or writing about her) who is thought to be bisexual if not lesbian. Why isn't she on there?

Kylie Minogue. That made me laugh out loud. I like Kylie Minogue well enough and all but a lesbian heroine, i think not.

I can't believe Rachel Maddow didn't make the list. I think that speaks volumes for the validity of these results...

Britney Spears is a goddess... and the best looking thing to walk the planet. My only argument would be she's down too low.

I'm over Jolie, though I'm not surprised. I'm kinda over Pink too. I'm lost on the Dolly Parton, Cher and Beyonce. It does seem like a mixture of a gay men's and women's list.

Britney Spears....

How about a lesbian who has actually done something heroic in her life. Caroline Paul. (Just the first well known example that popped into my head.)

I have no doubt that there are tons of other women out there who are lesbians who have done heroic things, not just saving people physically, but doctors and nurses, and social workers, etc, etc. I could rant on, but I won't.

And really, really, Liza Minnelli? Though, I can sorta see why Cher, if ya squint.

Tegan and Sara, Melissa Etheridg, KD Lang, Indigo Girls? Come on. 

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1) Jolie; 2) Madonna; 3) Pink; 4) Martina Navratilova; 5) Ellen DeGeneres; 6) Kylie Minogue; 7) Lady Gaga; 8) Annie Lennox; 9) Beyoncé; 10) Germaine Greer; 11) Liza Minnelli; 12) Gwen Stefani; 13) Cher; 14) Janet Jackson; 15) Tori Amos; 16) Britney Spears; 17) Cyndi Lauper; 18) Scarlett Johansson; 19) Sarah Jessica Parker; and 20) Dolly Parton

Wait.... Madonna over Ellen? Ga-Ga over Lennox? Cher, Liza, Britney, Beyonce Dolly Parton, and Janet Jackson? I love all of the aforementioned but I would never classify Cher, Liza, Beyonce, Britney, Janet, and Dolly as heroines in the lesbian community. What about Melissa Ethridge, or Tegan and Sara, or Tina Fey? or Leisha Hailey? Hell I'd even take Piper Perabo as a better answer than Beyonce.

 I think some gay men snuck into the 2600??? I think 2400 gay men snuck into the 2600.... 

I'll bet 20 bucks that this was written by gay male staffers, because no lesbian in her right mind would say Madonna is more of a lesbian heroine than Ellen. period. Forget the rest of the list of fag hags, I love madonna, I love Cher, Ga-Ga is a hoot, but very few lesbians would claim them as Heroines....

Maybe, MAYBE, Ellen and Martina because it took courage to come out when they did.

But I don't think entertainment personalities are heros at all. If you asked me who my heros (and I don't se why that needs to be gender differentiated...) were, they would probably be mostly non-lesbians but they'd basically be non-actors too.

They'd be people like Nelson Mandela, Harriet Tubman, George Washington, Christine Jorgensen, heck, from another post today, Meghan McCain. It takes courage to question authority or your own country or party or to be true to yourself when others criticize you.

What exactly has Cher done lately that took courage?

I also wouldn't put Beth Ditto, Tina Fey, Portia de Rossi, or Pink on that list. What exactly have they done that's so courageous?

but I wouldn't consider her my lesbian heroine simply cos she's not a lesbian! She's my dance floor heroine though!

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Oooh, I can see what's happened here...they set the cool, 'hip' intern on the job, who googled 'gay' and 'icons', and came up with this list. Voilà!

That or they confused stylised dykes with gay guys. It's easily done - see:

Spot the lesbian!

Well, I do consider Angelina Jolie a heroine of mine. And I consider Rachel Maddow a heroine of mine, as well. I fail to see why, as a lesbian, my heroines should differ from a straight person's...

What is Britney Spears doing on that list? Wowzers.

And are we talking heroines as in the main woman in a movie or who we rather ride in on a white horse and save us from all of our troubles? 

I just googled famous lesbians and female heroes and found a couple of ladies:

1. Jane Addams was a Nobel Peace Prize winner and perhaps the most famous social worker from the United States. She was also the lover of women and lived in a Boston Marriage with another woman.

2. Colonel Margarethe Cammermeyer is the highest ranking military official to come out while in the service. Prior to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" she challenged the military policy banning gays and won the right to serve. In 1994 she published her autobiography Serving in Silence, which was made into a TV movie starring Glenn Close.

3. Rosie Jones has won 13 Ladies Professional Golf Association (LPGA) titles. She has been on the tour since 1982. She had four top-three finishes in 2002.

4. In 1955, Del Martin formed Daughters of Bilitis (DOB), the first national organization for lesbians in the United States.

5. Crystal Eastman. Alice Paul, Lucy Burns, and others in founding the militant Congressional Union, which became the National Woman's Party. NOT CONFIRMED LESBIANS BUT HEROES FOR LEADING THE SUFFRAGETTES.

And that only took me 10 minutes to find those 5.

Penny Wong. Federal Climate Change minister in the Australian government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Wong

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