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Interview with Melissa Ferrick

The day before out lesbian singer-songwriter Melissa Ferrick took stage at this year’s annual music festival South by Southwest (SXSW), we relaxed on a grassy hill outside the Four Season’s, enjoying some music, fresh fruit, and chit-chat about her new album, coming out, and what it’s like to be a woman in the industry.

AfterEllen.com: When did you first pick up the guitar?

Melissa Ferrick: 16. My aunt had a guitar under the bed, from the sixties. I was already playing violin. I played violin since I was five. And I played piano and stuff so I was a musician already. I knew how to read music. She gave me that guitar so I just started batting stuff out on it.

Then I went to Berklee College of Music, when I was 17, on a trumpet scholarship. I was still playing guitar and starting to write songs with it. I knew I wanted to be a songwriter. That’s really where I honed my craft … playing in the dorms, writing songs.

AE: You mentioned being able to play quite a few instruments. Have you ever brought any of that into your live shows?

MF: I’ve taken my trumpet on tour before. I made a record called The Other Side where I played all the instruments. Right now I’m working on some stuff for a new record that comes out in the fall that I’ll probably branch out a little more with. I just bought a really cool little baritone ukulele.

I think it’ll be cool to tap into some of the other instruments I play, but not in the same way The Other Side was. It will be a different arrangement that I’m really excited about.

AE: Many people tend to define you as a folk musician. Do you agree?

MF: I think I’m more of a rock ‘n roll singer-songwriter. Folk music is a very particular type of music and I think I get classified that way because of the storytelling. My songs are stories about my life, but that’s not all folk music is.

Folk music reminds me of songs that everyone sings along to like “this land is your land” which is a gorgeous song, but I don’t write very political songs or songs about the great struggle from a country’s perspective. I write songs about personal struggle. I think that is relative for what people call contemporary folk music.

AE: Like Dar Williams?

MF: Yeah, but way rockier than Dar. More like Amy Ray on her solo stuff.

AE: So if Amy and Dar had a baby…?

MF: Maybe if Amy and I had a baby it would be Dar. Dar and I are actually going on tour together across the west coast.

AE: A lot of your songs reflect what’s going on in your life good or bad. When things are bad is there anything that lifts you out of that?

MF: I usually like to sit in my sadness. When I’m down in the dumps … I try to remember that my life is that way because I made it that way. The ocean helps alot. As much as I know going to the beach for a walk will help, it’s really hard to make myself get out and do that sometimes. When I’m working, I’m around so many people that when I’m home it’s good to just hunker down and be with myself.

AE: When you started, it was a lot harder for women in the music industry. How much has changed in the last decade or so?

MF: I’m sure it existed, but I wasn’t very conscious of any sexism going on. I was just so thrilled to be playing music and not have a second job. I was really young, 19 or 20 when I got signed, and you’re going through so much at that age anyway. I was so busy making music that I didn’t have time to think about how I was being treated or whether personal boundaries were being pushed. At least that’s how it was for me … just pushing through.

Now I’m independent, it really doesn’t effect me that much either. I guess it bugs me when I hear guys say things like, “oh just another girl with a guitar.” We’ve been hearing guys with guitars forever. As soon as they see a girl strap on a guitar, they think Ani Difranco or the Indigo Girls. And they’re both great, I know them personally and I know they don’t want that. That’s the last thing they want…for anything like that to create a barrier. I’ve toured with Ani and she is amazing, such a great person, always open-armed to me, but we’re nothing alike.

AE: The only similarity I see is the passion you both play with.

MF: Maybe that’s it. Maybe to men, it’s scary. I think it was Barbara Streisand who said something like when a man is passionate and aggressive he’s a good businessman and when a woman is, she’s a bitch. You see that with Rosie O’Donnell. She had a really successful talk show and then pure homophobia and sexism took over. Then again with The View, no one wanted to hear someone speak their truth. That someone was a woman and gay and they certainly don’t want that.

AE: When did you come out?

MF: To my family…I was 16. To the music industry, I was 24…25, so 1995.

AE: Were there any repercussions?

MF: I was on Atlantic Records at the time and they wanted me to come out on my first record. It was right after k.d. lang had come out, but before Melissa Etheridge. It was a) something that was becoming “acceptable” and b) something that got you a sh–tload of press. I was really scared to come out and wasn’t really settled in my orientation or what I wanted to call it. I still dated men at the time. I didn’t want a label back then and I still don’t like them. So I didn’t do it then.

For my second album, they had just opened a gay marketing division with Peter Galvin. So I decided to come out publicly. I was immediately dubbed the other Melissa and I haven’t been able to shake it since. I took it as a compliment, but instead of it opening me up to a queer audience with one’s own identity and one’s own sound … especially at that time…her fan base is so intense and intent on her sound … there was a backlash. A lot of women wouldn’t come hear me play and decided without listening that they didn’t like me. It was weird. It still is sometimes. It’s like people thought I was calling myself that. It was a writer who called me the other Melissa.

AE:What are the best cities to play a show?

MF: Chicago, San Francisco, NY. Actually, Chicago has kinda been the backbone of my career. Ohio, as in Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, has always been a state I’ve done very well in. Nowadays Tampa FL, Atlanta GA and DC are places I sell out shows regularly.

These days I stick to major cities for my sanity. I stopped doing small towns because I got really sick…I was doing 200+ shows a year. I was away from home 4 months at a time, constantly touring. I started that in 2000 and stopped in 2006 so I was touring for six years like that and it almost killed me. I can’t physically keep up with that kind of schedule, I can’t spiritually keep up with it. So now I stick to major cities and I don’t go out for more than 3 weeks at a time. But now there’s no need to be out longer since I fly everywhere. I use to drive everywhere. There was one year I drove 92,000 miles in a year.

AE: So what’s next?

MF: I’ve been working on a new album coming out this fall, going on tour with Dar, the Michigan Womyns Festival, some more festivals … and then this fall I’ll be touring in support of my new album.

AE: Do you have a title for the new album?

MF: No, I don’t know what it’s called. It’s still a work in progress. Just did a photo shoot with a great lesbian photographer out of NY, Erica Beckman. She shot my friends Bitch and Daniela for a calendar called Brooklyn Girls. She’s shot Uh Huh Her. I actually met her at Gay Pride in Brooklyn, in a bar. One of the new shots is up on my Myspace page. I’ll be adding new photos as we get closer to the new release.

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