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Interview With Sheryl Swoopes

AE: You were the first female basketball player to have a Nike shoe named after you, the Air Swoopes. What's up with the shoe? Can you still buy it?
SS: Nike isn't doing that anymore. For whatever reason, women's shoes just don't seem to do very well. And I don't know the reason behind that. Nike felt like they were losing money. No one in the WNBA is going to have a shoe this year.

Watch the Sheryl Swoopes Nike commercial below:


AE: You were supposed to open a gay sports bar last year in Texas, but it never opened. What happened?
SS:
Like the book, I just didn't want to jump in because it's something people wanted me to do.

The sports bar was something I was going to do, and now I want to do more of an upscale bar and lounge where women can come in after work and have a nice glass of wine or champagne, and not have to worry about who is coming in, such as teenagers, and to relax. I want it to be more of a classy place, and the sports bar that we were doing just didn't look like what I wanted.

AE: Your son, Jordan, is playing basketball. That can be cool, but that can also be tough to have a mom who is one of the best basketball players on the planet.
SS:
I want him to be himself. If he wants to play basketball, football, baseball, whatever, he can. I want him to play because he wants to.

AE: You are featured in the video game NBA Street Homecourt, a game that has female basketball players in it for the first time.
SS:
There is myself, Sue Bird, Tamika Catchings, Lauren Jackson, Lisa Leslie and Diana Taurasi. We play three on three against the NBA guys. All the things the guys can do in a game, we can do. The dunking, the jumping on somebody's back, the alley oops.

I've only played it twice, but I'm not very good at it, so I let my son play it so he can teach me.

AE: The game pits you against NBA players like Carmelo Anthony, Rip Hamilton and Dwyane Wade. You and Hamilton recently played each other for fun, and he beat you 11-1?
SS:
[Laughs.] I'm better at games like Ms. Packman, the old-school games. A lot of times my son Jordan wants to play me so that he can beat me.

AE: You have played basketball overseas. Did you play this year? Women playing in sports leagues like basketball, soccer or softball overseas can make double or triple what they get paid in leagues in the United States. Why is that?
SS:
I didn't play overseas this year, but those teams have sponsors and owners who pay big money, and they love women's basketball, and it's so competitive over there. They just don't have as much entertainment over there. Everyone wants to win the European Championships, so they are going to pay what they have to to win.

AE: You have mentioned a number of times in interviews that being Christian is important to you and that you are searching for a church for you and your family to go to. Have you found a place?
SS:
No, we haven't. If I'm going to be in a church, I want a place that is a good place for me and my family, and until I find a place that I can go and be me and not feel like I'm being judged every two minutes, then I just read my Bible at home and do my own thing.

AE: In an article I was reading on Outsports.com right after you came out, you said it would be great to get letters from fans. Do you get a lot of letters?
SS:
The letters I get are from men, women and kids, asking for a little bit of everything, like autographs or personal appearances.

Since my coming-out, I've also gotten letters from parents who have said, "Thank you for what you have done in coming out and helping me better understand how to deal with my daughter, or even my son."

Those parents with gay kids are asking themselves, how did this happen to my child? How did they turn out this way?

Of all the things I've accomplished in my basketball career, to think that me coming out could possibly save one person's life far outweighs the things I've accomplished on the basketball court.

pecola's picture

Great Interview

I've been a big fan of Sheryl Swoopes since her days at Texas Tech...always good to hear from her.

If she retires after this season, does that mean she won't be at the Summer Olympic Games in '08? After three gold medals, it'll be hard to imagine a US National team without her.

emailcarol's picture

Swoopes is not the only...

Latasha Byears, another a member of the Houston Comets, is also out as a lesbian.  Hers is a long and controversial story.  See links:

http://womenshoops.blogspot.com/2003/08/oh-man.html

http://womenshoops.blogspot.com/2005/08/when-wnba-commissioner-donna-orender.html

Malinda Lo's picture

Thanks for the info

I didn't realize that Latasha Byears was playing again. When Swoopes came out, Byears was no longer with the WNBA, but it looks like after her case was settled in mid-2006 she returned to the WNBA. Thanks for letting us know! I've edited the article so that it's now correct.
stormy's picture

Texas Tech

I saw Sheryl play for Texas Tech in the 1993 NCAA final four.  She was so amazing and I've been a fan ever since.  She was called "the female M. Jordan" back then.  Her talent clearly set her apart from every one else in that tournament.  I wish her well. 
Lunakiss's picture

Thank you AE for Interviewing Sheryl Swoopes

I have always been a fan of Swoopes and WNBA for a long time. I'm so glad she and other WNBA players have come out.  U don't know the controversery still behind secondary and college women coming out.  Some have been kicked out of school as well as off the team.  Bigotry/Lesbophobic still exist in Sports. I hope she does open the sports bar, I'm not an athlete, but support female sports 100%.

She's got my love and support as well as a woman who made herstory in the world!

Fine interview!

swoopesbabe's picture

sheryl swoopes

thank,you "afterellen"4 the story on"SHERYL SWOOPES"not only is she my favorite basketball player she is also my rolemodel.I,m glad you all apreciate her.she is an living legend."

    "houston comets rule the wnba#22all the way"

ufos_are_real's picture

cant forget...

okay im going to try really hard to make this comment constructive and not just sound like im hating on sheryl swoopes cause shes obviously a kick ass athlete.

i give her all the credit in the world for being a positive role model and a phenomenal female athlete. ...but i find it a virtually impossible to support anyone who claims that being gay is a choice. and thats fine if she feels that way about her own personal choice. but from my perspective her previous comments about "choosing to be gay" pretty much singlehandedly brought the gay community to its knees. the last thing anybody knees is for gay haters to get wind of the fact that even lesbians are saying its a choice.. and they will have us lining up to be "fixed" in no time.

with great power comes great responsibility. i just wonder if she hasnt done just as much damage as good for the gay community in this case?

........ and now im wondering if anyone else even remembers this whole fiasco..please tell me someone else knows what im talking about?

poussimousy from the french west indies's picture

you're right ! it sucks !!!

you're right ! it sucks !!! :s

Comme disait Jeanne D'Arc : " tu verras de quel bois je me chauffe " ;)

Kaki Flynn's picture

The Gay Gene Debate

That was part of Sheryl's coming out story. Here is the article you are referencing, where she talks about being gay being a choice:

You have said that you don't believe you were born gay, which, as you said, may confuse many people. How do you believe you came to be gay?

I think there are a lot of people -- gays and lesbians -- who believe you are born that way. I think there also a lot of people who believe it's a choice. And, for me, I believe it was a choice. I was at a point in my life where I had gone through a divorce and was not in a relationship, and the choice I made happened to be that I fell in love with another woman.

>> Gay.com story

Out WNBA Players: As with who is an out athlete, that usually actually means, "who came out to the press?" There are plenty of athletes that consider themselves out - right up until I ask them to be in a story. Heeckkk Noooo is the response, for a myriad of reasons. The same reasons we have in our own lives for being out or not.

The best place to see who is out? Outsports.com.

I'm putting together a more comprehensive list of out female athletes, so if you are an athlete that considers yourself out - and your story hasn't been written - let me know.

- Kaki Flynn (author of story)
kakiflynn@hotmail.com

Melissa Hsu's picture

I love you Sheryl Swoopes!

Thanks for the interview with Sheryl, she is my rolemodel.  I had season tickets every year to see the WNBA play while they were in the Garden, until I heard that the WNBA does not want Lesbians attending their games, now I  have totally lost interest in the League.  I will just spend my money where I am wanted.  Good luck to all you players out there. But I am toast when It comes to the WNBA.

PS. I use to love the WNBA as much as I love Bad Girls now!

the linster's picture

Swoooopes

Thanks for this and your other recent reports about the WNBA. I've really missed seeing Swoopes play this year (and, obviously, so have the Comets). Hope she gets healthy soon. And thanks for posting the Nike commercial - that series was classic.
Sporty Spice's picture

A few points...

A few points:

In her interview with The Advocate upon coming out, Swoopes also mentioned the stuff about her feeling that being gay is a choice. As much as I enjoy watching her play, that comment was dismaying, to say the least, and it's surprising, I think, that in the last couple of years she hasn't thought better of it. To follow her line of logic, virtually everything can be considered to be a choice. Even eating is a choice; one must eat to live, but the act of eating can be indulged or not. No one is forced to do so, and can decline, despite the consequences. In the same way, one can also ignore the fact of being gay, despite the unhappiness, among other things, that may ensue. Is this the kind of 'choice' to which Swoopes refers?

Secondly, when the WNBA first came into being, the league alienated many lesbians when its spokespeople came out with some unsavory remarks about gay fans. That was 11 years ago, however, and as far as I know, nothing along those lines has been said for quite some time. Many teams, in fact, have even sponsored promotions targeting gays.

Swoopes does make a good point about female coaches. There are many qualified ones out there who should be given a chance, at every level, not just the WNBA. Even most high school and college girls basketball teams are still coached by men.

The WNBA is pure basketball, unlike the NBA, which relies on nonsense like dunking, hanging from the rim, etc. The NBA is more theater, whereas the WNBA shows more skill and is pure sport. That's why it's great that the league has lasted this long and is so much fun to watch.

Kaki Flynn's picture

WNBA & Lesbian Fans

To look at the acceptance of gay fans in the WNBA, you have to look at it on a team-by-team basis.

I have not had a chance to do it, but the only way to know would be to call every team, and to see what that teams involvement with the gay community is. Here are a few examples:

LA Sparks:
I live in LA, and the team is AWESOME. The owners had a party at the gay bar The Norm, the lesbian social group Women on a Roll are hosting a private party that involves the team and the owners, and the LA Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce has a block of season tickets. The LA Sparks marketing person and other people in the organization have been awesome. The Sparks also have openly gay staff members.

Seattle Storm:
On the flip side, the Seattle Storm owners gave money to an anti-gay marriage group.

Miami:
The Miami team has had parties at lesbian clubs and embraced lesbian fans from day one.

Houston Comets:
Sheryl Swoopes plays for them. 

Like the writer above mentioned, with new owners and lots of changes over 11 years, I wouldn't write off the whole WNBA.

Kaki Flynn

LaNnie's picture

she swoopes ahead

swoope is one of my favorite athletes. even though she said "its a choice" when i totally disagree with that, i still think she deserves a lot of credits for coming out. Her life and carreer were on the line and it's unfortunate that she wont be playing anymore after this season. =[

hope she will be even more successful in the next chapter of her life. =]

Micko's picture

SHERYL MY DEAR, YOU CANT LIVE A GAY LIFE AND HAVE GOD

hhagen I'M A 72 YR. OLD LESBIAN, IN 1980 I FOUND THE LORD. BUT IN READING THE SCRIPTURES, I SAW WHAT AN ABOMINATION IT WAS TO GOD TO BE ONE. SO I HAD TO STOP THE LIFE STYLE IN ORDER TO PLEASE THE LORD. AND FEEL RIGHT ABOUT MYSELF. IT WAS HARD, BELIEVE ME, MANY LONELY NITES AND WET PILLOWS. BUT HE BROUGHT ME THROUGH IT, TO WHERE IM CONTENT BEING ALONE AS FAR AS THE SEX GOES THING. AND NOW IM FINE. IT CAN BE DONE. HE GETS US THROUGH IT. AND REWARDS US FOR IT. MANY BLESSINGS. MICKO
Kaki Flynn's picture

Gay Churches

Micko,

You ultimately have the right to live your life as you choose, and the right to your opinion.

FYI for readers, to show a different side, there are over 5,000 churches that accept members of the GLBTQ community, and allow people to live openly and freely.

Check out:

http://www.mccchurch.org/

Sporty Spice's picture

Just wondering...

Just wondering Micko, since the bible outright condones slavery, do you own slaves? According to scripture, it's not only okay to own slaves, but it's okay to beat them, nearly to death if you see fit, as they are your property, after all.

Have you ever done any kind of work on the sabbath day? Because the bible forbids it. Have you ever eaten shrimp? Shellfish is considered unclean, and is also forbidden. Ever mix meat and cheese together in the same meal? Forbidden also. How about mixing different fabrics in the same garment? Forbidden. Do you think unruly children who talk back to their parents should be put to death? The bible does. How about adulterers? Should they be put to death, also? The bible says yes.

My point: even those who say they take the bible literally pick and choose. Why are the couple of verses that address homosexuality used as a weapon against us, yet all the things cited above conveniently and routinely ignored? I've yet to receive a satisfactory answer to that.