African-American women and bisexualityI know that despite the fact that homosexuality among women is more openly discussed media wise, in the black community it is still fairly taboo. So finding information, support groups and a sense of community can be a bit difficult. What I'm discovering in the process of finding a place to meet like minded individuals, that even though a small amount of support is offered to address the issues of black women who are gay, it seems that even less is offered for those of us who are bisexual. Is it just me or have others experienced something similar? I know that bisexuality has a stigma in the black community due to the whole DL issue among black men but does anyone feel that this has had an affect on black women who are also bisexual, more so pushing one to pretend to either be straight or a lesbian to avoid the stigma that comes with being bisexual?
Submitted by nyte (100 posts) on April 11, 2007 - 11:24pm. |
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i agree. black homosexuality is defininetly a taboo subject! I feel that this is in part due to an ingrained ideolgy of black oppression by white america. culturally, we have an acute history of forced capitulation, and for a black man to then come out as a homosexual and get f'ed by white men of his own volition is too much of a cross to bear, i'm sure. and so instead of dealing with it, we've trapped ourselves with down low brothas. of course this effects black women! because the ideology being used is the same. frankly, i am annoyed that woman-to-woman loving is often left out of the conversation altogether. do you think it's because the perception of a black homosexual woman is easier to accept than that of a black homosexual man? or are we operating under a patriarchal concern to 'clear the name of our men' before we can address the women?
hmm... i also don't feel that black homosexuality is adequately portrayed in mainstream media, at all. this is, in part, due to the very fact that we don't (or can't?) even talk about it in the first place. it's also because the majority of mainstream media is owned by, written by, and played by white people. it would be incredible to see homosexual characters that are not hyper-sexualized, and lesbian characters that are not always lipstick-gorgeous.
i think most heterosexuals have a slutty perception of bisexuality, in general. it's not simply that one is only attracted to the same sex or only the opposite, but that one is attracted to both. i've overheard it many times of how 'bisexuals are greedy' and must have some kind of 'wild sex drive.' whatever. this could be why it's hard to talk about bisexuality... folks aren't taking it serious!
- mb
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I have only 2 friends
I have only 2 friends that know that i'm bisexual. one is a gay man and the other is my whorish straight best friend. she thinks bisexuals are greedy and he's just counting down the days until i say i'm a lesbian. but neither one has made me feel less worthy of their friendship. she listens to and tries to support every crush i have expect for 1 girl, they hated each other. back to the subject, homosexuality and bisexuality is one and the same in the black community there is no in between. both are morally and socially wrong. homosexuality is looked down upon by the black community because most people feel that we have it hard enough just being and living black in american. so why add on the stagima of being black by also adding on being gay. i think its especially hard for young black men. just think if a black women comes out and says she's gay and then goes back to men, people just say she found the right man or she was just going through a phase. but if a black man comes out as gay and then tries to get with a woman its a different story. for black man there's no turning back. hopefully our generation will bring along a wave of change and understanding with in our own community. it just a shame that we have to seek out and ally ourselves with other cultures to better understand our sexuality because in our community it's a taboo. It funny that we will embrace and glamourious drug dealers, child molesters, and rappers that degrade OUR women but we have a problem with free love and the way a person loves another person or the way a person "gets off". so the real question is how do we change the perception of the queer lifestyle within the homophobic black community?
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Women's bisexuality an 'identity,' not phase
To my beautiful, black bi sisters...
This was an article in USA Today back in January. It proves pretty much what I"ve always known. Bisexuality is genetic; just the same as homo and heterosexuality. It doesn't make us anymore "slutty" than anyone else. It just gives us more choices. This gives you something to tell those people who want you to go one way or the other or who think being bi is "slutty".
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-01-15-bisexual-women_N.htm
I'm proud to be both black and bi. I wear the bi colors everyday. And if you didn't know there were bi colors, than check it out. Search "bisexual pride" and you'll find items to wear, stick on your car or put on your fridge. Pass the word along to other bi women of color.
I don't know if the black community is going to change. We just have to be ourselves and declare our identity when asked. If we continue to hide in the closet, how are we going to convince the other identities that we are as valid as they are?
The choice is not the identity, the choice is being proud of who you are and that includes all of the parts that make you a fascinating human being.
Peace, Joy and Love
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thanks for posting that article. but like many of the other reader's i've also question the validity of the research. granted it's a start, but i don't think those involved realized exactly how big our community really is.
on another note, i'm glad to see this topic up here. being a black woman is hard enough, but when you come out as either gay or bi......*sighs* you truly are risking alot. forgot which one of you guys mentioned it, but yes, it is a shame when you're at liberty to express yourself among other cultures/nationalities, instead of your own.
i myself, have recently come out as bisexual. the kicker is that only a few (not even a handful), of trustworthy friends actually know. a couple of them have asked whether or not i thought it was a phase. it can't be a phase if it's something you've known all your life.
at any rate, hopefully with this there will be more dialogue to come. :-)
Very true and well said,
Very true and well said, Brenda647! In my fair city, there is a Bi presence, however, after much interaction with their organization, I've come to realize:
Needless to say, I got away from that group quickly!
As for the Black Community....let's face it: If a Black Woman feels that her body and her sexuality belong to her exclusively.....she may as well wear the "Scarlet Letter", because our sexuality does not belong to us! In order to have our sexuality seen as "valid" by the BC, it has to be found in or attached to a man....
i seem to throw alot of men
i seem to throw alot of men off track...confuse and unnerve the hell out of them, really...when they realize that i am indeed the one in control over my body, sexuality, and any sexual act that will or will not be taking place. apparently most of the men i've dealt with are not used to a woman who easily verbalizes what she does and does not want or indeed. that hit it and quit it is not something that i've been known to shy away from...and it seems to freak men out when i'm up front about what i want.....and even more so if i voice how i'm displeased. there have been many men who got a shock when they discovered that my sexuality wasn't a toy to enhance their own pleasure.
~i am bisexual. you are confused.~
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Agreed Totally
nyte wrote:I know that
For a long time, I wrestled with labels. Okay so I am attracted to women, not really attracted to men right now, this must mean I'm gay. But wait, I like this guy. Does this mean I'm not gay? I'm not straight. I dated a guy after being involved w/ women for a very long time and I had some gay friends who asked me point blank, "So what, you're straight now?"...and actually, that guy stopped dating me because he found out that I dated women. It's like you can't win trying to please others. It's impossible to fit into their narrow-assed definitions of who you shoudl be based on whom you're attracted to. People just have this need to place others in boxes. and, going back to one of my favorite quotes, "If i I didn't define myself for myself, I'd be crunched into other peoples' fantasy for me and eaten alive." I said, "fuck a box. I'm just gonna be me." I no longer feel the need to restrict myself/my friends/my interests relative to my sexuality (but it would be nice to know more people like me, who wouldn't judge me or write me off as flaky or confused).
It's not easy being green
It's not easy when you don't fit neatly into any one category. Being true to yourself takes some courage. I can certainly relate to your description of the coming out process of bisexuality, even though for me it was some time ago.
I recently found an online community that is just for bi black women, and it's designed to keep out people who are predatory. It will take time to see how well I really connect with them, but I'm just glad such an organization exists.
Peace and love to all you sisters on this journey.
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