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Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)


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Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Sorry about this stupid question (I'm kinda n00b here). How can you discuss this episode if it's airing on feb. 19? o_o

Feel free to delete this XD.

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Much gratitude from me too.

Now back to epi 7. Is it really going to be soooo depressing??? WIll be watching with my hands over my eyes. Tina and a bloke. Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!

Bette not fight for her gal? Noooooooooooooo!!!!!

Helena and Dylan, hot and heavy??? Yesssssssssssss!!!!!

Jenny and Max?????????????

Kit getting busy with Angus????? Nooooooooooo!!!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

iusedtobeshanesgirl's picture

Questions Questions

Shane and Carmen: I don't understand why Shane could not concentrate on sex with carmen. What was the problem? Was it the tattoo or the syringe she found in the bathroom bothering her.

Moira: Ok, I dont think two shots of "T" will make your arms look different. If you have watched the documentarys about transexuals, it takes more than two shots. Also, what is Moira? Is she a Man that is gay??

Jenny: What was the point of showing that editor not being into Jenny's book? I don't get it.

Dana: Would you go to a club when the love of your life, that you ran away has just left and went to Paris? I don't think so. Knowing that you have been an A**, would you not being trying to reach her and apologize??

Billie B: Is he gone for good? I hope so.

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

It just a topsy-turvy world in Season 3.

All that was good is now sad.

All that was hot is now cool.

All that was funny is now depressing.

Woe is me watching Season 3.

iusedtobeshanesgirl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Goldstar??? Was that made up for the show or do people really refer to women who have only had sex with another woman, a gold star?

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:f6fdba84f4="iusedtobeshanesgirl"]Goldstar??? Was that made up for the show or do people really refer to women who have only had sex with another woman, a gold star?[/quote:f6fdba84f4]

New one to me....

h3llb1tch's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

I didn't think this episode was very good. However, I think my judgement has become somewhat impaired by the fact that I now like Helena so much that I get really peeved and upset if she doesn't get lots and lots of screentime. So for all I know, this might have been a very good episode, I just didn't see it that way.

But it was very depressing. I thought season two was depressing enough without revisiting it all again in season 3.

The Moira / Billy thing was just a little bit too weird but the thing that really bothered me is how easily Moira seems to cheat on Jenny. I don't think these two are designed as a long term couple and now have a sneaking suspicion that Jenny might hook up with Helena. Okay, so that's a hope more than a suspicion. Alice or Jenny. I'm not fussy. But one of them has to end up with Helena. It'll cheer me up. A lot. :wink:

Can't really remember the rest of the episode except that Tina didn't sleep with the man. But I knew she wouldn't. She will end up with Bette. And all will be right with the world again...

ronia's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:c0508ab915="RobbeeDee"][quote:c0508ab915="iusedtobeshanesgirl"]Goldstar??? Was that made up for the show or do people really refer to women who have only had sex with another woman, a gold star?[/quote:c0508ab915]

New one to me....[/quote:c0508ab915]

Actually, I have heard that before. I have no idea where it originated. I think I heard it in Philly, from a woman who was originally from NYC, if that helps. (Probably not.)

lesliepc20's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

does anyone know wha the aria was that they played at the beginning of the episode?

koma's picture

Re: Questions Questions

[quote:e15fd1bb81="iusedtobeshanesgirl"]Also, what is Moira? Is she a Man that is gay??[/quote:e15fd1bb81]

Considering her relationships with Jenny and Billie, I'd say she's bisexual, not gay.

Tarae's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:2a707ddcc3="lesliepc20"]does anyone know wha the aria was that they played at the beginning of the episode?[/quote:2a707ddcc3]

It's the "Flower-Duet" from the opera "Lakme" by Leo Delibes

shadowboxer's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Does anyone have a link to the previews for this episode? I love the anticipation after I've had a glimpse. :)

rock_girl99's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

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RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:6d97a5e293="ronia"][quote:6d97a5e293="RobbeeDee"][quote:6d97a5e293="iusedtobeshanesgirl"]Goldstar??? Was that made up for the show or do people really refer to women who have only had sex with another woman, a gold star?[/quote:6d97a5e293]

New one to me....[/quote:6d97a5e293]

Actually, I have heard that before. I have no idea where it originated. I think I heard it in Philly, from a woman who was originally from NYC, if that helps. (Probably not.)[/quote:6d97a5e293]

Many thanks for the heads up.

I supposes being from dear old blighty is why I've never heard of it.

VidZeus's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

This. Was. One. Lousy. Episode.

mngg's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

lol, my opening sequence prediction was right - Bette & Alice!!

Anyway, I thought this episode sucked, only good parts were the opening, Tina NOT having sex with Josh thank god, Alice and Bette mentioning the opera lol, and Bette helping Dana chillax...... I guess in other words without Jennifer Beals (and Leisha Hailey to a little lesser extent) this episode wouldn't be worth watching!!!

Here's hoping EZ Girl sticks to just the music in future................

annew38's picture

gold star

I have heard of "goldstar" (since I am one!) since the late 80's early 90's....and I am from NC...

RobbeeDee's picture

Re: gold star

[quote:37698ab301="annew38"]I have heard of "goldstar" (since I am one!) since the late 80's early 90's....and I am from NC...[/quote:37698ab301]

See it is an American thang!!

psyc0girl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

The episode wasn't too bad - now that I know who wrote it i feel much better!! i was starting to get worried that one of the writers had been fired, but now i know that's not the case. here's to hoping for better writers/episodes in the future.

the max-moira/billy thing really threw me. and lara, as much as i love her, is getting on my nerves. she needs to grow a spine, really! what happened to that take charge girl at the beginning of s1??

i was kinda hoping tina would have sex with josh, i'm getting the feeling that she's not in love with bette anymore. i hope they're not gonna use the baby to stay together, that's an awful reason to stay in a bad relationship. can we get bette and helena together already?!

and i'm sick of carmen and shane. carmen is such a snob - she's nothing but eye candy for me. she's got shane all kinds of messed up, give me back pre-carmen shane!!

oh, back to jenny and moira. i don't know what's going on there. i really just think they're f-buddies, because they're both wayyy too messed up to be in a relationship together. kit and angus, doesn't gross me out too much. i love alice and uta, hope she comes back. (kinda biased, have a thing for vampires)

iusedtobeshanesgirl's picture

Re: gold star

[quote:78b4898ab9="RobbeeDee"][quote:78b4898ab9="annew38"]I have heard of "goldstar" (since I am one!) since the late 80's early 90's....and I am from NC...[/quote:78b4898ab9]

See it is an American thang!![/quote:78b4898ab9]

Im from New Jersey and I am always in NYC, and I never heard of it. Learn something new everyday. :wink:

iusedtobeshanesgirl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:a45b64e989="psyc0girl"]T
and i'm sick of carmen and shane. carmen is such a snob - she's nothing but eye candy for me. she's got shane all kinds of messed up, give me back pre-carmen shane!!
[/quote:a45b64e989]

I second that!!!!

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:2e486eb0a6="psyc0girl"]i was kinda hoping tina would have sex with josh, i'm getting the feeling that she's not in love with bette anymore. i hope they're not gonna use the baby to stay together, that's an awful reason to stay in a bad relationship. can we get bette and helena together already?!
...
i love alice and uta, hope she comes back. (kinda biased, have a thing for vampires)[/quote:2e486eb0a6]

NO, no, no. Cover your ears and eyes. Tina can't have sex with Josh. She can only have it with Bette. Even if these two haven't even kissed once this series. :( :tears:

As for Bette and Helena there is room for hope after seeing Helena at Bette's for the BBQ and later at the B52. THis pair were even civil with each other. Am :praying: that the bitter tastes left by TIna and Dylan will unite this pair. Pretty pul-eaze.

As for Alice and Uta, they are most fun this season. Okay, pushing Angus and Kit to a close second. Yes, I would like to see more of this relationship...

Harpy's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:333064d094="Miyuki"]Sorry about this stupid question (I'm kinda n00b here). How can you discuss this episode if it's airing on feb. 19? o_o

Feel free to delete this XD.[/quote:333064d094]

Oh crap, you don't have access to our time machine?!

... :) We just get the topic prepared and start it.

But, you can see previews for the next ep at: http://www.sho.com/site/lword/episodes.do

Though, I think non-US viewers have problems viewing.

noturavragegirl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Uta is hot and I can't wait to see more of her. I like, I like :love:

I really, really like Shane & Carmen but damn it's a shame how there story line is going with Carmen's bad attitude. I hope that they can get threw the tough times. I hope Carmen's attitude will shape up or maybe there just preparing her because she's on her way off the show maybe at the end of the season because of the new gig she has on NBC. I don't know(shrugs shoulders).

nebraska2's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Can they please get rid of Max/Moira. She's so annoying and disgusting. She should've left with Billie. I would like to see Bette and Helena find good partners. They're the only characters I like.

psyc0girl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:27ad275eb5="noturavragegirl"]......maybe there just preparing her because she's on her way off the show maybe at the end of the season because of the new gig she has on NBC. I don't know(shrugs shoulders).[/quote:27ad275eb5]

What new gig on NBC? If it's a sitcom, then I don't see her lasting beyond this season. She'll probably want to keep her options open.

h3llb1tch's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:bc1e2c891c="RobbeeDee"]
As for Bette and Helena there is room for hope after seeing Helena at Bette's for the BBQ and later at the B52. THis pair were even civil with each other. Am :praying: that the bitter tastes left by TIna and Dylan will unite this pair. Pretty pul-eaze.[/quote:bc1e2c891c]

I am so fascinated by who Helena will end up with, I did something I don't normally do... I read some spoilers.

http://www.tv.com/the-l-word/show/18662/episode_guide.html&season=3

The spoilers don't actually give too much away and definitely are no use in trying to work out whom Helena will end up with but they are quite interesting in other respects. So if you're feeling naughty, I'd sneak a wee peek. :wink:

As for Helena, I have narrowed it down to Alice, Jenny or Bette. I think Helena and Alice have a very natural chemistry between them. Helena and Bette would of course be very hot but I think it unlikely to happen, if only because Jennifer Beals is so very pregnant at the moment. Maybe in future seasons this relationship will be explored... it might even be inevitible. Helena and Jenny. Mnn. It would be weird... but good weird. :wink: :twisted:

Koala_L's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

ok I saw the ep. and I didn't understand the time line
1 Bette and Alice were dating for 6 weeks, according to what Bette said last season. So they ONLY had 3 dates in 6 weeks??
2 When Bette and Tina met, Alice and Bette were on that best friends stage after they had broken up (Alice said that in season one). So why Alice said that Bette was in love of a straight woman (Tina) when she was braking up with her on her third date.
3 Why their hair (Bette and Alice) dosen't look like it should? If that was the days when Tina and Bette met , it must be more like in the flashback of Tina's coming out story (season 1 ep. 12)
I don't beleve anybody notice of that, writers , producers , secuence staff...anybody!!!!

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:44302019eb="h3llb1tch"]

I am so fascinated by who Helena will end up with, I did something I don't normally do... I read some spoilers.
[/quote:44302019eb]

Thanks fo rhe head up but I don't think that Bette and Helena would be this season. More like a tempting delight for Season 4.

As for Helena and Alice, it would be too much of a replay of Alice and Dana as friendship transitioned into hot, hot sex. May need to rethink that given last thought.

Still want to see Helena and Bette to pleasure each other even if only on a physical level. Make it so,

[quote:44302019eb="Koala_L"]
ok I saw the ep. and I didn't understand the time line
[/quote:44302019eb]

Total agreement about the continuity from Season 1 to this event. It is just sloppiness of the part of the creators of the show. Different writers will use the basic events and mould them to their plot. Sad but true.

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

nebraska2 wrote:
Can they please get rid of Max/Moira. She's so annoying and disgusting. She should've left with Billie. quote]

Oh c'mon..please what is it you cant handle about max ? he's tryin to find himself ..people experiment, its not because it doesnt live to ur taste that its discuting!! you totally have the right to think of him as discusting but chill out...its provocative but its a reality, people like max do really exist its okay if we take interest in their kinda lives. News flash sweety the world isnt black and white...You're acting like straight narrow minded people who only accept what they find acceptable...and this is discusting and annoying! That kind of behavior is the first reason why we the LGBT community are put under a spot light of shame...c'mon get real !
This is non-sense...

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

On another note, it was good to see Bette wearing her "expensive" yoga top to the B52s.

And btw, how big are her boobs getting.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm :lol:

beth605's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

fullofhope wrote:
[quote:6eabfdfeb6="nebraska2"]Can they please get rid of Max/Moira. She's so annoying and disgusting. She should've left with Billie. quote]

Oh c'mon..please what is it you cant handle about max ? he's tryin to find himself ..people experiment, its not because it doesnt live to ur taste that its discuting!! you totally have the right to think of him as discusting but chill out...its provocative but its a reality, people like max do really exist its okay if we take interest in their kinda lives. News flash sweety the world isnt black and white...You're acting like straight narrow minded people who only accept what they find acceptable...and this is discusting and annoying! That kind of behavior is the first reason why we the LGBT community are put under a spot light of shame...c'mon get real !
This is non-sense...[/quote:6eabfdfeb6]

yeah, im really happy they're doing this storyline... i thought i wanted to be a man all through when i was growing up (my answer to; 'what to you wanna be when you grow up' was 'a man!') i think im over it now, im pretty happy being a girl now, but this storyline is probably helping loads of kids who are confused and helping them to sort out what they want. plus, im not surprised shes been getting with billy, he treats her like a man where as jenny doesn't at all, let alone carmen etc who aren't being supportive at all.

calipso's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

when it comes to Moira, maybe she is supposed to be:
Max, the woman or
a gay-identified woman
Does that remind you of something?

Honestly I think once is enough and with once I mean Lisa, the man.
Nothing against her sex-change but why does she have to fuck Billie, and why the hell do we have to see it?

sunflower's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:947164e89a="LesKidd"]
But, you can see previews for the next ep at: http://www.sho.com/site/lword/episodes.do

Though, I think non-US viewers have problems viewing.[/quote:947164e89a]
there used to be a site for people outside of the u.s., i'm not sure if it still works, just type 'origin.' before www

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:35a1d582f2="calipso"]when it comes to Moira, maybe she is supposed to be:
Max, the woman or
a gay-identified woman
Does that remind you of something?

Honestly I think once is enough and with once I mean Lisa, the man.
Nothing against her sex-change but why does she have to f--k Billie, and why the hell do we have to see it?[/quote:35a1d582f2]

for the simple reason that...it happens...the thing is its there just like you see shane f***ing her ex with a strap on..or again like alice and dana on the olivia boat..remember that?...it wasnt chockin now was it?...i dont understand what you guys find so disturbing!!...

beth605's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

and all the negative comments about it are probably alienated people on the forum... a place where they think they can fit it, i know i like this site because its about people like me.

Zoetrope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

A friend who transitioned from female to male told me that extremely high doses of testosterone make you extremely horny. No surpirse there! I also recall listening to a segment from the radio program, THIS AMERICAN LIFE regarding the effects of taking high doses of testosterone, the storyteller said s/he wanted to fuck the copier machine at work (or something like that). Perhaps Max is feeling tres horny as a result. Given her location/access to support, I don't understand why Max is acquiring hormones off the street?

There would be even more heat generated between Helena and Dylan if Helena knew how to kiss?! Whatever happened to Helena's attraction to pregnant Mommies?

RobbeeDee's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:74482fb353="Zoetrope"] Given her location/access to support, I don't understand why Max is acquiring hormones off the street?

There would be even more heat generated between Helena and Dylan if Helena knew how to kiss?! Whatever happened to Helena's attraction to pregnant Mommies?[/quote:74482fb353]

Both of the above are easy storyline options. Remember that the writers are trying to keep it real and show all the diversity that there is.

As for Helena's predilection with pregnant women; it disappeared along with her bitchiness. So all in all a good thing.

:D

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

yeah helena is so much more appriciated this season, she's all nice and sensitive..a bad kisser but definitly still sexy...

tatouline's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

^ About that... How can you be a bad kisser when you're kissing Alexandra Hedison!!???!! What a shame...! :wink:

And on a more serious note, isn't it a little dangerous to convey the idea that you can take hormones just like that, buy them off the street and take any dose any time you feel like it?

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

:lol: true , its crazy

calipso's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:c6b5dae9a7="fullofhope"]
for the simple reason that...it happens...the thing is its there just like you see shane f***ing her ex with a strap on..or again like alice and dana on the olivia boat..remember that?...it wasnt chockin now was it?...i dont understand what you guys find so disturbing!!...[/quote:c6b5dae9a7]

I think you got me wrong... There is totally NOTHING against transg. , the only thing I was criticizing is the weirdness of this storyline when it comes to Moira cheating on Jenny so often with Billie, and especially why Billie.
This has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation, it's just that it doesnt make any sense to me, what Moira is doing, and please with "what Moira is doing" I am NOT refering to her sexchange.
And it's also weird that Moira doesn't really care about what she is pumping into her veins...she didnt go to a doctor or something and she is dealing with it as if it wasent rly a big deal... And I think that's a totally wrong approach to the subject and also a bad example for people who might be thinking about doing the same thing.

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Oh well in that case dear i apologize to you sincerly...its true that billie is "icky" and that max must b under the effects of hormones to act this crazy on billie...

and yes it does set a bad example but hey, tv sets a lot of bad examples so...

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Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

When I heard that in Season 3 that we were getting a real butch lesbian, I was kind of excited. But what we got was a transgender which I don't feel is the same thing. I know it's real happens everyday but it is a bit stereotypical that any lesbian who dresses what I like to call "boyish" wants to really deep inside be a man .. I wish we could have a butch, stud whatever terminology you want to use on the show who dresses boyish but is comfortable being a woman .. Comfortable having breasts and loves the skin she's in .. and loves to be with women .. I think the closest we got to that was Candace the carpenter .. I know the L-word wants to show all the diversity that is to the LGBT community .. but hell that could take years .. it changes every day .. and we get some main stream focus .. master the basics .. so far we don't even have one successful long term relationship on the show .. the LGBT already is seen as a bunch of confused freaks who screw anything that moves (as per conservative America) so we don't really need any help showing that .. a little normalcy .. just a little bit mixed in all the chaos .. A good show strikes a balance .. right now we have all chaos and the bad elements of "the life" but none of the good .. now that this is kind of long .. i'll leave it at that

shadowboxer's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

Nope, doesn't work for non-US IPs -- well, not mine at least. Bummer.

beth605's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

what is shane??? i would probably consider her to be butch... my friends always shout butch at the screen when she comes on to piss me off too!

calipso's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:52e9c82409="atl_hottie"]...I know the L-word wants to show all the diversity that is to the LGBT community .. but hell that could take years .. it changes every day .. and we get some main stream focus .. master the basics .. [b:52e9c82409]so far we don't even have one successful long term relationship on the show[/b:52e9c82409] .. the LGBT already is seen as a bunch of confused freaks who screw anything that moves (as per conservative America) so we don't really need any help showing that .. a little normalcy .. just a little bit mixed in all the chaos .. A good show strikes a balance .. right now we have all chaos and the bad elements of "the life" but none of the good .. [/quote:52e9c82409]

Amen to that!!

iusedtobeshanesgirl's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

[quote:540b902611="beth605"]what is shane??? i would probably consider her to be butch... my friends always shout butch at the screen when she comes on to piss me off too![/quote:540b902611]

Shane is a baby butch!

fullofhope's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

And she ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOCKS!!!!

Harpy's picture

Ep. 307 "Lonestar" (Feb. 19)

I wouldn't really say Shane is butch at all, personally.

I'm also of the mindset that the show wouldn't lose much if Moira were to disappear. I don't care for her character or the storyline. If the storylines regarding her did not seethe stereotypical so much - I'd feel better about it all.

I watched Showtime's teasers for the next episode and I find myself even more annoyed with her character. She has a conversation with Dana that just really irritated the hell out of me.

Every season we've had characters to dislike though. So, for me, this year it's Billy and Moira/Max. However, atleast in the previous seasons there was some amount of likeability to the 'hated' characters. Billy and Max should just get a flat together far away from LA. :P


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