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They've created sperm! Does that mean... Does that really mean..?!!? :DD

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8138963.stm

Scientists in Newcastle claim to have created human sperm in the laboratory in what they say is a world first.

The researchers believe the work could eventually help men with fertility problems to father a child.

But other experts say they are not convinced that fully developed sperm have been created.

Writing in the journal Stem Cells and Development, the Newcastle team say it will be at least five years before the technique is perfected.

They began with stem cell lines derived from human embryos donated following IVF treatment.

The stem cells had been removed when the embryo was a few days old and were stored in tanks of liquid nitrogen.

The stem cells were brought to body temperature and put in a chemical mixture to encourage them to grow. They were "tagged" with a genetic marker which enabled the scientists to identify and separate so-called "germline" stem cells from which eggs and sperm are developed.

The male, XY stem cells underwent the crucial process of "meiosis" - halving the number of chromosomes. The process over creating and developing the sperm took four to six weeks.

Understanding sperm

The Newcastle team say the sperm were fully mature, mobile sperm and they have produced a video to back up the research.

FROM BBC WORLD SERVICE

Professor Karim Nayernia at Newcastle University and the NorthEast England Stem Cell Institute says: "This is an important development as it will allow researchers to study in detail how sperm forms and lead to a better understanding of infertility in men - why it happens and what is causing it.

"This understanding could help us develop new ways to help couples suffering infertility so they can have a child which is genetically their own.

"It will also allow scientists to study how cells involved in reproduction are affected by toxins, for example, why young boys with leukaemia who undergo chemotherapy can become infertile for life - and possibly lead us to a solution."

However, Professor Nayernia stressed the researchers had no intention of "producing human life in a dish".

Perfectly viable human embryos have been destroyed in order to create sperm over which there will be huge questions of their healthiness and viability
Josephine Quintavalle
Comment on Reproductive Ethics

But Dr Allan Pacey, a sperm biologist at the University of Sheffield, said he was not convinced the sperm were fully developed.

"The quality of the images is not of sufficiently high resolution and I would need more data. They are early sperm, but functional tests would be needed to know exactly what has been achieved."

The sperm cannot be used for fertility treatment as this is prohibited under UK law. The scientists in Newcastle say it will be at least five years before the technique is perfected - when they believe it should be available to help infertile men.

This research also raises ethical issues. Josephine Quintavalle from Comment on Reproductive Ethics (Corethics) said: "This is an example of immoral madness. Perfectly viable human embryos have been destroyed in order to create sperm over which there will be huge questions of their healthiness and viability.

"It's taking one life in order to perhaps create another. I'm very much in favour of curing infertility but I don't think you can do whatever you like."

But John Harris, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Manchester, said: "I don't see any problems with the use of synthetic, or laboratory produced sperm.

"They will initially be used to make discoveries about the way sperm are formed and how problems arise, and that will be beneficial.

"Eventually it will be used to solve male infertility and that will be wholly beneficial.

"It seems to me this is one of those examples where people are groping around for a problem and there literally isn't one."

 

Does this mean... that we can finally have a life truly without men?

Here's some... INTERESTING comments.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8142104.stm

Life without men

Scientists claim to have grown human sperm in a lab, and columnists and bloggers are musing on the possibility of a world where men are no longer needed.

Couple arguing

Michael Hanlon in the Daily Mail

is not looking forward to the prospect of a world that doesn't need men.

But if - and it is still a big if - scientists could one day use cells from female embryos to produce sperm, or perhaps even DNA extracted from an adult's skin or cheek-lining cells, then we truly would be living in a terrifying new era.

The Daily Telegraph's Rowan Pelling says men are redundant but worth keeping for menial tasks.

Yet I feel compelled - and not just as the mother of two small boys - to make a spirited defence of the weaker sex. Where would I be without my husband to read 80 pages of a car manual, in French, to find out how the back windscreen-wiper works? Who would tug the dried lumps of excrement from our cat's backside? Who would explain the rules of cricket to an American? Who would clear a blocked drain of unspeakable clotted matter? Who would take hours to demonstrate the dreadnought manoeuvres at the Battle of Jutland, armed only with salt cellars and jam jars? Without men, there would be no one to read Joseph Conrad or Norman Mailer, to remove spiders from the bath, or (important one, this) to tell women they're pretty.

The editor of the Journal of Medical Ethics John Harris says in the Independent that he sees nothing wrong with exercising choice but the real ethical issue isn't about the prospect of a world without men.

Women have many ways of trying to do without men. They don't need men - they just need their sperm. Sperm is a notoriously renewable resource and it is plentiful. There is always the turkey baster option for women who want to get pregnant but do not see the need to get a man... The real ethical issue here is that we do not foreclose the beneficial possibilities of research through prejudice or fear.
Professor Karim Nayernia of Newcastle University
The man himself, who made sperm from stem cells

Emily Cook in the Daily Mirror

can only think of one useful man and that's scientist Karim Nayernia, who conducted the sperm research:

Women have always known that men are a bit of a waste of space … Now British scientists have proved how unnecessary blokes truly are by creating the first human sperm from stem cells. And as if that's not a big enough problem for fellas everywhere, the expert behind this revolutionary move is a man.

And Blog Tactic says despite the scientific developments, men should be kept around as play-things.

That means men can become redundant in the human productive cycle and the end of male infertility. But for the ladies, I think we should keep a few of them around just for fun. And for those anti-gay, it is an efficient way to cure male homosexuality: abolish men.

Karen on the Macleans.ca blog hints at how complex the politics of parenting may become by linking to the UK government's current meanings of mother and father. The definitions are more than 5,000 words long. On the same blog Last Man on Earth says:

WE MUST CRUSH THIS! Take away their funding, burn all evidence, delete all records, kidnap and kill those who made the discovery and then bury this entire story under some celebrity scandal. Men can't become irrelevant!

In the Culture Watch blog Bill Muehlenberg is concerned the advances may leave men with nothing to do:

… what they are really about is the end of man - both as the male gender, and as humanity … A number of problems come to mind, including the obvious: if scientists can now manufacture sperm, that simply makes males even more redundant than they already are. This is really parthenogenesis, or procreation by one sex alone. This might be good for amoebas, but it is not good for human beings, and certainly not good for the children who come about by such a process.

 

 

DISCUSS. 


.★.Matt The Rock$tar.★.'s picture

No, why?

Very interesting, I mean if you want to get it then good for you. But I need men to level out the estrogen. We can not allow the men to die out (tears) lol

Ash's picture

AMAZING.

Just. plain. wild. If scientists find a way to create life like this, wouldn't the possibilites and outcomes be endless? Beneficial to the human race or catastrophic? Hmmm...

 

ice cream's picture

fuckinnn sweeeetttt

fuckinnn sweeeetttt
ice cream's picture

Whoa!

That's awesome :D
Michie87's picture

OMFG are you serious!!!

that means we can do A LOT more without the need of a fleshy penis!! hahaha, no need for that if lesbian partners want to have a child and all. YOu know I saw this show called the Drs I think and they argued that man can become extinct? Lmao, WHat do you make of that?. I think it would be aweeeeeeeesome if this discovery/theory proved to be truth.

 

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michele emily's picture

I've actually read a few

I've actually read a few articles about the Incredible Shrinking Y. It's kind of sad that men could go extinct. Then again, finally a matriachial society!
Shannon's picture

While my dream come true

And I am not a fan of men, I think people are being far to dramatic about it.  It's laughable just how sensitive men are being about this.  It's like the creation of the modern dildo or strap on.  It's not like women need men for their penises, and yet, amazingly, women do still sleep with men.  Hmmmm... So while I say awesome! Because it means that by the time I want to start having kids I might be able to do so with my partner on a genetic level, I can also say to our bitter other halves (socially that is), don't worry, I'm sure there are women who will want to do it the old fashioned way.  lol

~Without risk, there can be no innovation.  Without innovation, there can be no advancement. ~

.★.Matt The Rock$tar.★.'s picture

lol funny

modern dildo or stap on...interesting. X D

ice cream's picture

Probably Not

Don't paint with too broad a brush. :p You should read the Slashdot comments (I am sure I am not the only one who reads Slashdot!), as some of them are fairly silly, and most of its readership (which is mostly male) seems to take it in a joking manner:

 

http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/07/08/186205/Human-Sperm-Produced-I...

 

Anyway, maybe, eventually, a same-sex couple will be able to produce offspring; that is certainly something, if it actually comes to fruition. :)

.★.Matt The Rock$tar.★.'s picture

Got to love Slashdot lol

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ice cream's picture

There will always be...

men in this world... Straight women will never give up their men not because they need them but because they want them. But there will always be men in this world as well because what if the sperm comes out male.... what are the women going to do? Kill it?! NO. So straight women (which is the majority of the population of this world) and the sperms forming into baby boys will keep the male species alive so I don't really know what the hell people are talking about when it comes to a world without men. Plus that, most of my friends are guys.   This is great news for me and a girl I will get with (if I find a girl that likes girls lol) if this is true. This is truly astonishing and it amazes me how scientist have created a sperm. I want to be a scientist myself and fine curses for diseases. This is awesome. This is still great news for lesbians!!!! hehe    

 

lolligagin's picture

i think i hear... wait...

i think i hear... wait... yes. its the male ego being pummeled.
Annie Ho's picture

this is such an amazing,

this is such an amazing, yet scary discovery.

Sur-Rah.'s picture

Woah.

If they can manufacture sperm, clone sheep and cure wrinkles, maybe they can manufacture lesbians! It'll be a totall amazonion take over. :)
Jenna's picture

Poopin

I think I just pooped a little with glee. *shakes poop out of pant leg*

“I once had a large gay following, but I ducked into an alleyway and lost him.” - Emo Philips

Amanda's picture

At a glance it seems great

At a glance it seems great but at a second look it is actually super scary. It is not natural and there are so many children who already need families and there are already too freakin many people on this planet- eww I hate the way that sounds when I say it. People of earth I love you but let's not act without thought- again. There would be many serious reprocussions. Some doors you don't wanna open. Men are going to be more useless anyway as all of the adverse effects of all of pharmacuticals and toxins that are in our water start messing with thier spermies and giving everyone a myriad of cancers and health problems. Don't you just hate being an unwilling guinea pig? Men aren't the problem- systems of oppression and domination are, and the way social norms and expectations function in our society. Awareness, action, and kindness are the answers. They are trying to keep us busy so we don't notice the grave injustices and evils at work, or at least make us feel powerless enough to not do something about it.

 

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margret Mead