Why must we introduce ourselves with labels/stigmas?Okay when you came on to this earth, you are who you are. Then your mom,dad,grandparents, who ever named you. Why does it matter when I come up to you that you have to tell me that you are a femme,butch, stud, dom, AG, fud(i dont even know where the heck that came from), stem, ABCDEFG lol etc. Why can you not just be Sally or Ashely or Jane? Either way I am still going to treat you with the same respect as everyone else. Society has this need to label everything, point blank period. But it is our own choice to accept it, it will never go away but you can not get mad if you choose to accept it, because that is your choice. I know we have this need to "identify" ourselves to feel at peace or whatever(so not true). I label myself as a stud because that is what I feel in my heart. Same as lesbian,bisexual,same gender loving, etc. Half of you all go around labeling yourselves as femmes and feel the pressure to uphold this fake image that screams fake from miles away. "Oh I don't wear make up or high heels and have an off day oh no somebody is not going to see me as a femme anymore" What do I do, Who am I now? Hello, You are still Sally,Ashely, or Jane. If you need femme,stud,dom,etc. to define who you are, then you are just lost and confused. Someone can tell that from a mile away and you are trying to cover it up with a label. It does not help, trust, it will only make things worse. Find out who you are first and what ever you feel in your heart. That is the only thing that matters. If you do not feel it in your heart screw it with a fork, because being apart of a popular trend should not be your top priority. You yourself should be your only concern. I don't want to meet another femme,dom, AG, butch, stud, ABCDEFG lol, I want to meet Sally or Ashely or Jane. Where ever you are please stand up? Another point have you ever heard of a heterosexual man/woman going around introducing themselves as "Hi, My name is Tom, and I am a manly man" or "Hi, My name is Amy, and I am in between girly and tomboy that would make me "girlytom" They say "Hi, My name is Tom/Amy, nice to meet you?" (Side note: If you have nothing nice to say or if you say something and it sounds ignorant when you say it out loud don't post it in respect to the other AE members. Thought I did not have to say this to grown women but apparently we are childish at heart....Thank You Matt) Submitted by .★.Matt The Roc... (2382 posts) on July 9, 2009 - 5:32pm. |
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Disclaimer:
NOT ALL Lesbians and Bisexuals act like this
so don't jump down my throat for making an observation
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what's a fud? is that for real?
hi, i'm jen btw.
Nice to meet you Jen
I have no idea one of my friends says she got it from L-Word. She says it is a femme stud or something like that. So I am like so we have stem and fud now wow lol. I have to totally start making up words to describe women and make it an international phenomenon.
I know our language is evolving but when we start calling people "fuds" then we are going nowhere.
If you don't want a label, don't have one
I, for one, like my label. It's cozy, and snuggly, and keeps me warm at night.
I am a lesbian. I am a diesel femme. I am a woman. I am a mother. I am a scientist. A researcher. A teacher. A student. A reader. A rocker. A dancer.
These are all labels. They are simply descriptors. Shorthand.
Do they fully describe me? Nope. That's where conversation comes in.
That is fine
If that is who you are and if that is what you feel in heart then that is okay. But my point is that should not be all who you are. This post was mostly targeted to recent posts about feeling left out because they don't label themselves and for some reason we are all caught up into labels instead of being who we are as people.
I think you've missed my point
Did you read my last sentence?
I think all this worrying over "will someone capture my distinctiveness because I don't label myself." is rather silly. People aren't mind readers. You have to open your mouth and talk if you want people to get you.
What's the big deal? Start a conversation already.
diesel femme.
we should be wed.
also. labels.
Well, I used to be all 'labels are st00pit! I'm just me' blah blah but then it just got old. And also, a billion people started saying they were 'no label' when they did, in fact, fit so snugly into one of those labels that's up there. So now I use labels to make the lives of others easier, and to make them not hurt. I agree with Penny though, they're just words, and that's all people are gonna see you as unless they hold a conversation with you. And whether you label yourself or not, people are gonna assign one to you anyway until they decide whether or not to get to know more about you. As for the lesbian community, my Government Label is "Genderqueer Andro-agressive Versi-top". I think that encompasses everything everyone's ever wanted to assign to me, sexuality-wise. lol
Necessary and dangerous, all at once
I see your point, Matt the rock$tar. And as Penny Winterr said, there is nothing wrong with identifying those labels that do in part describe you. It's simply necessary for how our minds put things together and particularly online trying to communicate with people who may never have the pleasure of face to face conversation, it can be a good starting point.
The problem is when we take the label as having it's own importance and existence about the individual. Worrying about how we'll be described instead of just being who we are. Limiting ourselves to labels which provoke a prototype that most often will not entirely fit the individual. Or worse, using a label as an attempt to minimize another person to a single descriptor.
So I figure, call yourself what you will but be aware of the implications and limitations and be aware of the same limitations when hearing or reading the labels others choose for themselves by remembering that there is a whole, complex person behind them.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with labels
Lo siento if that point did not get across.
Just don't get all worked up about it when someone comes up to you and say who are you or what are you? You should be able to say I am Jane with pride. A label does not or should not make you. If you do not know yourself I believe you have no right to label yourself to fill some kind of missing void in your heart. It would be completely pointless.
Yes I myself label myself as boi/stud because that is what I feel in my heart. But at the same time, I am Matt no matter what. There are millions of masculine identified women in the world but there can only be one me.
I am a writer, I am a student, I am goofball, I am a lover, I am a fighter, I am my mother's daughter etc.
We are like onions there is so much to us then just a label.
Yes, I agree with you Penny Writer, conversation is key.
I guess you all missed my point in writing this. I get tired of people hiding behind there labels. I get tired of people saying and feeding into stereotypes about groups of people with in our community because they are not right and unfair to the person, when you can just talk and start that conversation to break down the barriers.
Get to know the person first, the label second.
I think...
Still Unique
I have absolutely no problem with how other people identify. Butch, femme, no label or whatever...I really don't.
I just wish that whenever people do identify it didn't include insulting what they don't identify as in the same breath.
You know, if you say "I'm not one of those lesbians" as if being "one of those lesbians" is not a cool thing to be you are undoubtedly going to insult someone who IS "one of those lesbians."
When I say I'm butch, it is not to separate myself from gay women that aren't butch. It's not about anyone else...in fact it's not even about other butch women. Because although there are similarities, of course every woman that identifies as butch, femme, no label, etc. is still unique.
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Awesome- I totally
Awesome- I totally agree. It's not really about separating ourselves with labels, but rather letting others know what our personality/likes and dislikes are. For example, you identify as butch. Okay, great! That tells me a lot about how you MIGHT be. It gives me an idea as a femme lesbian there might be something here-or maybe if I'm a "disel dyke" looking for a "fud" (haha what?) then I'll try somewhere else.
Get to know the persons, labels may or may not help with that, but as long as we're not blindly stereotyping then we're probably okay. We're a newerand evolving community and we need ways to describe ourselves! (If we'd like!)
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