I have heard of the ring finger of a lesbian being longer than the index/pointing finger,do u gals have this physical appearance? it is true for me,tho
first off- i didn't know about the whole womb thing! second off.... listen to my description: left hand- wring finger longer than the pointer. right hand- both the same size! weird.
..I never heard of this one. I just heard that if your index finger is longer, your face is more symmetrical? :S Was ever any research done about the this.. ? :S
Yeah, on both my hands my ring finger is longer than my index...but I think we need some straight and bi gals to give us their "measurements". Interesting, I never knew that, is the womb thing really true?
You wanted to hear from some straight and bi gals. I am straight. Both my right and left ring fingers are significantly longer than my right and left index fingers. I had never run across anything about this before.
Finger length may be an indication of sexual orientation, a controversial study has shown.
Scientists from California found that lesbian women have a greater difference in length between their ring finger and index finger than straight women do.
The same pattern was also found for homosexual men - but only when the researchers looked at those males that had several older brothers.
The scientists from the University of California at Berkeley were testing a theory that higher levels of androgen - male sex hormones - in the womb influence both finger length and sexual orientation.
They did this by looking at the hands of 720 men and women on the streets of San Francisco. The volunteers had their fingers measured and were asked questions about their sexual orientation and the number of older brothers and sisters in the family.
In women, the ring finger and index finger tend to be about the same length. In men, however, the index finger is usually the shorter of the two digits.
'Masculine' pattern
What the study showed was that lesbian women also tended to have the more "masculine" arrangement - that is, they had shorter index fingers.
But the ratio of finger sizes in men was more complicated. Comparisons between all men showed no differences. Only gay men with several older brothers had an unusually "masculine" finger ratio - in other words, they had significantly shorter index fingers.
Having a large number of older brothers had previously been established as a factor predisposing men to homosexuality, and like finger length reflects prenatal androgen exposure.
Homosexual men without older brothers had finger length ratios indistinguishable from heterosexual men, indicating that factors other than hormones - such as genetic influences - also contribute to sexual orientation.
"The results in men are more complicated but also more interesting," Dr Marc Breedlove, one of the researchers, told the BBC. This is because they suggest younger brothers are being exposed to higher levels of androgen in the womb than their elders.
Womb 'memory'
"We think it is inescapable that the mother's body is remembering how many sons she has carried before, and somehow she is then increasing the amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees before birth. So the fascinating questions are: where is the memory being stored in the mother's body and what is she doing to change amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees."
The Berkeley study has been published in Nature. Scientists in the UK have given it a cautious reception. They say far more work is required to back up some of the ideas contained in the research.
"I think this is a possibility," said Dr Richard Sharpe, of the human reproductive science unit at Edinburgh University. "But no-one has actually measured the levels of androgens in foetuses or the womb - you can imagine it is difficult to do - so this is all speculation. It may be informed speculation, but I think when we get on to a subject as touchy as sexual orientation we need to clearly define what is speculation and what is fact."
Dr Sharpe said animal studies had shown how female sex hormones could affect sexual differentiation in the brain and regulate sexual behaviour, but this had still to be proved in humans. It could well be different, he said.
I never noticed, nor thought it was anything different, but both my ring fingers are slightly longer than my index finger... by about 5 millimeters on the left, and 3mm on the right.
My ring finger on my left hand is longer than the pointing finger also my right hand, Pretty much all my finger are long cause I have really BIG hand..hm lucky me I guess
Both my ring fingers are longer than my index fingers but the left is longer lol. . .oh and i also asked two of my staight friends this question and thier fingers are the same size lol i dunno if that means anything
I heard this rumor too and so far it's proven true....
funny thing was when I first looked at my fingers when I was asked this question they were the same size
now when i look, on my right hand my ring finger is longer, on my left its about the same size
funny cuz i'd consider myself 75% lez lol
that site also said this
"We think it is inescapable that the mother's body is remembering how many sons she has carried before, and somehow she is then increasing the amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees before birth. So the fascinating questions are: where is the memory being stored in the mother's body and what is she doing to change amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees."
I'm the only girl in my fam, i have two older bros...now i thought I was a tomboy because I grew up with two older bros, now i see that it may also be a science thing....since I am rather "masculine" lol.
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On both hands my ring finger is significantly longer than the index...but I'm not masculine in the slightest, so not sure about the masculine thing, though I do have a lot of the 'symptoms' of increased testosterone levels, so maybe that's it..
On my left hand, they're about the same. On my right hand, the ring finger is just slightly longer. Guess that revealed more than just sexual orientation for me...I'm also a little bit disfigured. How nice. LOL :)
My ring fingers are quite much longer (8-9mm) on both hands... And I have heard that in many cases I think "like a man", and have some masculine personality, but I don't think I look masculine...
My ring fingers are definitely longer than my pointer fingers. Hm. Guess my mother can't say I was "just experimenting" anymore! My hands are to blame!
Which brings up a totally relevant question: Could plastic surgery alter your sexuality? I mean, if it's all defined by the length of your fingers, maybe they can just lop off the tip.. ouch!
My ring and pointer fingers look to be the same length. It's hard to tell down to the nearest millimeter, in comparison my middle finger is a giant. That's weird!
well i asked my mom this question and her ring fingers are longer than her index fingers . . and then i told her what it supposedly means . . and you know what she said "well i've always thought women were attractive and i've thought about what it would be like to sleep with a women, i think it would be fun" . . . .i was like omg WHAT?!?! i can't believe my mother just said that to me it was hilarious
Lol i don't know my mom has always been with guys shes with a guy right now shes never been with a girl lol i asked her if she was bi and she said well i dunno maybe lmao
My mom's ring fingers are also significantly longer than her index fingers. After she answered my question, she asked what it means, and I just said "No no no...I'm not gonna tell you. You wouldn't want to know about that."
So does this mean that i'm a massive lesbian cos my ring fingers on my left AND right hand are longer than my index fingers?!?! well i am really into girls so i guess it figures lol
hey - thanks to this forum, i just discovered, after 42 years, that my hands are not symmetrical! my right index finger is longer than my right ring finger, but my left index finger is shorter than my left ring finger...am i les or bi? i think i am about 90% les, but i am not out yet...just as well...i feel really confused about my fingers...someone pls help me figure myself out....
Nope
Nope, not I. Isn't it just a measure of testosterone you're exposed to in the womb, though, meaning I just happen not to be very manly.
So it's still wrong, then.
I LAUGH!
I think everything that is said about the index finger and lesbians are just a lie....
dont beleive that crap,, someone made it up!!my opinion..
well...
yep
Hmmm..
lol
..I never heard of this one. I just heard that if your index finger is longer, your face is more symmetrical? :S Was ever any research done about the this.. ? :S
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Cool
Yeah, on both my hands my ring finger is longer than my index...but I think we need some straight and bi gals to give us their "measurements". Interesting, I never knew that, is the womb thing really true?
still crazy after all these years
ring finger length
You wanted to hear from some straight and bi gals. I am straight. Both my right and left ring fingers are significantly longer than my right and left index fingers. I had never run across anything about this before.
Here's a link from many
Here's a link from many moons ago:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/695142.stm
Cool
Cool :D
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ok,i'll post it here.
Scientists from California found that lesbian women have a greater difference in length between their ring finger and index finger than straight women do.
The same pattern was also found for homosexual men - but only when the researchers looked at those males that had several older brothers.
The scientists from the University of California at Berkeley were testing a theory that higher levels of androgen - male sex hormones - in the womb influence both finger length and sexual orientation.
They did this by looking at the hands of 720 men and women on the streets of San Francisco. The volunteers had their fingers measured and were asked questions about their sexual orientation and the number of older brothers and sisters in the family.
In women, the ring finger and index finger tend to be about the same length. In men, however, the index finger is usually the shorter of the two digits.
'Masculine' pattern
What the study showed was that lesbian women also tended to have the more "masculine" arrangement - that is, they had shorter index fingers.
But the ratio of finger sizes in men was more complicated. Comparisons between all men showed no differences. Only gay men with several older brothers had an unusually "masculine" finger ratio - in other words, they had significantly shorter index fingers.
Having a large number of older brothers had previously been established as a factor predisposing men to homosexuality, and like finger length reflects prenatal androgen exposure.
Homosexual men without older brothers had finger length ratios indistinguishable from heterosexual men, indicating that factors other than hormones - such as genetic influences - also contribute to sexual orientation.
"The results in men are more complicated but also more interesting," Dr Marc Breedlove, one of the researchers, told the BBC. This is because they suggest younger brothers are being exposed to higher levels of androgen in the womb than their elders.
Womb 'memory'
"We think it is inescapable that the mother's body is remembering how many sons she has carried before, and somehow she is then increasing the amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees before birth. So the fascinating questions are: where is the memory being stored in the mother's body and what is she doing to change amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees."
The Berkeley study has been published in Nature. Scientists in the UK have given it a cautious reception. They say far more work is required to back up some of the ideas contained in the research.
"I think this is a possibility," said Dr Richard Sharpe, of the human reproductive science unit at Edinburgh University. "But no-one has actually measured the levels of androgens in foetuses or the womb - you can imagine it is difficult to do - so this is all speculation. It may be informed speculation, but I think when we get on to a subject as touchy as sexual orientation we need to clearly define what is speculation and what is fact."
Dr Sharpe said animal studies had shown how female sex hormones could affect sexual differentiation in the brain and regulate sexual behaviour, but this had still to be proved in humans. It could well be different, he said.
Righ then, where's my tape
Righ then, where's my tape measure....this will be fun.
still crazy after all these years
so I'm...
My index finger is a bit longer than my ring finger on both hands. All this time I thought I was gay now I know it was all a lie!
haha....
finger thing
Hm. I'll be the bi test case here.
My ring finger is shorter on both hands. Is that "normal"? Oh no! Am I straight?!!? : )
never noticed
Finger THing
uh huh...=]
so,it`s quite different ;）
have fun!
fingers
What hand !
le fingers
I heard this rumor too and so far it's proven true....
funny thing was when I first looked at my fingers when I was asked this question they were the same size
now when i look, on my right hand my ring finger is longer, on my left its about the same size
funny cuz i'd consider myself 75% lez lol
that site also said this
"We think it is inescapable that the mother's body is remembering how many sons she has carried before, and somehow she is then increasing the amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees before birth. So the fascinating questions are: where is the memory being stored in the mother's body and what is she doing to change amount of androgen that each subsequent son sees."
I'm the only girl in my fam, i have two older bros...now i thought I was a tomboy because I grew up with two older bros, now i see that it may also be a science thing....since I am rather "masculine" lol.
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"Valentine's Day's coming? Aw crap! I forgot to get a girlfriend again!"- Fry
yep...
Hmm
fingers
Mine are the same length on both hands
**It's much easier to turn a friendship into love, than love into friendship. --Proverb**
Yes & No
fingers
my ring finger is longer on both hands
wow
wish i could have that..... :(
Nope!
my index fingers are longer than my ring fingers...maybe i'm straight :(
Jupp
It checks out!
I don't think so
Mom's Fingers
hah...
Dunno
Mom's fingers
My Mother Always told me:
Oh well.
so does this mean???
So does this mean that i'm a massive lesbian cos my ring fingers on my left AND right hand are longer than my index fingers?!?! well i am really into girls so i guess it figures lol
I am who I am and really, who cares who I am???
straight
my ring fingers are longer about 3mm than my index fingers... (maby I'm gay )
not true. :(
my index fingers on both hands are way longer than my ring fingers... and i'm very gay!:D
is she gay?
look at this pic:
finally,i've got this pic of kate's fingers.so is she gay?
Hmmm
Nope... both my index fingers are longer than my ring fingers... Wonder if it makes a difference since I only have sisters and no brothers...
yup!
YIKEs! NOT syMmeTrical at ALL!!!
hey - thanks to this forum, i just discovered, after 42 years, that my hands are not symmetrical! my right index finger is longer than my right ring finger, but my left index finger is shorter than my left ring finger...am i les or bi? i think i am about 90% les, but i am not out yet...just as well...i feel really confused about my fingers...someone pls help me figure myself out....
fingers everywhere
my index fingers are longer than my ring fingers.. and i'm gay.. i've got to check my moms' and my granny's and sis'.. brb!
* complex as it seems, life is simply amazing *
I guess I'm not Gay
but
Still... ITS not fair... i know im whinging.... but hell... its not fair....