I was just wondering how many chinese are right here, willing to open up and admit that they are gay... Most of the lesbian in Singpore kept pretty hush hush about it.. & it just makes it harder to find a partner... really...
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on February 27, 2007 - 9:31pm.
Hard to find a sweetie in Singapore but I snagged one
spore?
uhm...
i'm singaporean...
not chinese though...
and it's so true, lesbians here hush2.. very secretive..
tough 4me, i don't have a gaydar.
:(
Hi!
Here's a thread for Chinese.
http://www.afterellen.com/node/4631
(I'm from Taiwan and live in Taipei City now.)
Where can I meet lesbians in Taipei?
If you know how to use
If you know how to use "BBS", there are several popular sites for gay people. The most popular one is the lesbian board on "PTT". They arrange some activities from time to time. You can also make new friends there.
There are some lesbian bars and gay-featured bookstores in Taipei. You can send me a message if you want to know more details.
p.s. Are you Taiwanese?
Oh man! I'm in Taiwan right
Oh man! I'm in Taiwan right now, and I'll be going to Taipei pretty soon before I go back to the US. I'd love to check out these places but I'm here with my mom, so...probably not. XD
Oh well...I'd just go to look around, anyway. I'm not really comfortable speaking to people in Chinese, even though my accent is perfect. It's just not a language I'm that great at communicating in, since my vocabulary isn't very large. And dammit, why is everything in Taipei? My mom was raised in a poor town in the middle of Taiwan, so we're always around that area or with her sister, which is in the middle-west part of Taiwan.
Where are you now?
Where are you now? zhanghua(彰化), miaoli(苗栗), or nantou(南投)?
I guess you probably can speak Taiwanese, too. I speak Taiwanese with a funny accent, though. HAHA
Maybe you can still go to those bookstores when you come to Taipei. It''s easy to get there by MRT; both are located near 台大(National Taiwan University). Many young people like hanging around there.
I was in Nantou for 4 days,
I was in Nantou for 4 days, that's my mom's hometown. And I also stayed with my aunt in Wuci, which is in the Taichung county. I was only in Taipei for the last 2 days while I was there, and I was there with my mom, aunt, and cousin. So there was no way I'm going to get to go to any gay-populated areas.
As for the Taiwanese language...I can understand it pretty well, but damned if I can speak it. I try sometimes but I have an accent too. XD Isn't that weird? I've only been listening to it my entire life from my mom... oh well. D: I'll be going back to Taiwan again...maybe a year or two from now. Hopefully I can go to those places then!
I'm Chinese American and I'm
I'm Chinese American and I'm definitely out. I don't announce it to everyone I meet but if they ask, I'll tell the truth...I can't really hide it, anyway. Everything about me just screams "dyke." ;D
As for Singapore...I've never been there, but I can imagine it's hard to be out over there. There may be some resources online in Singapore you can find about where lesbians meet up?
Lesbians in Singapore
I can tell you, we do have parties & clubs for lesbians... and i quit going.. because its so hard for me to get attracted to anyone... they not appealing to me anymore... & those parties ain't that fun either... I wish there is more caucasians around.. !!!
Hmm...that's a shame that
Yes its a shame
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woah, i can't help but find this hilarious. i totally get what you mean when you say that "it is always difficult to find someone more sophisticated." i have a lot of aquaintances who are lesbians/bisexual, but what really puts me off about them is that they tend to be pretty shallow. one of them loves to boast about how she two-timed girls 3 times and stuff -_- gosh, am i supposed to be impressed? i guess i'm more interested in an intellectual kinda relationship.
Anyway, i have some pretty interesting websites about queers in Singapore and hopefully you could meet someone who's less superficial through some of those websites.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=groyn88
http://www.plu.sg/indignation/
http://gaytothebone.blogspot.com/
http://www.yawningbread.org/
http://women-snite.livejournal.com/ - "Women's Nite provides a safe, neutral and alcohol-free space for lesbians and bisexual women in Singapore to gather and discuss the issues relevant to their lives."
if i'm not wrong the next event is on 31st March.
http://www.pelangipridecentre.org/index.htm
maybe we should set up some sort of website for singaporean queers. i came across a hong kong one before... ... http://www.blur-f.com/main.php and well in one of the entries of Best Lesbian-ish. Day. Ever. someone suggested a 'purple band' to help us recognise who's playing for our team. it might work, but i highly doubt so.
oh yes! by the way, have anyone seen the book 'SQ21: Singapore Queers in the 21st Century'? it was recently launched and i was quite shocked to see it in kinokuniya! it was a pleasant surprise though.
and hey, what's with snubbing girls' school! >:/ it's like you're trying to imply that we're less sophisticated or something. i'm from a girls' school and have a few bisexual/lesbian friends who are neither LUG(lesbians until graduation) nor superficial, not just in it because it's 'cool'. i'm extremely grateful for friends like them. admittedly, there are many girls' school girls who are like that, but please don't stereotype all of them to be so.
no shit, i only used to see
I'm Chinese and I had lived
I'm Chinese and I had lived in Singapore for several months 3 years ago, maybe my gaydar didn't work, but everyone seemed str8 there, well, except those whose attributes screamed "I'm gay".
I dont' deny the superficial club thingy, I went to clubs just for a brief moment but I got bored, so I stopped going.
hmm
Chinese-American here... I guess I should be very lucky to have been born and raised in California. It is pretty liberal but still... can't say I know that many people who are openly out and asian though. If you are looking for more people in asian countries, I know this one site www.fridae.com that is geared for events and people in East Asian countries.
Haven't gotten to try the club scene yet..... going this weekend :P wish me luck :P
ahh..good luck! let us know
chinese-american here too.
hi abcdf
Where was you going to? Can you give me some address to go?
Thx much
I'm from Singapore, but I
I'm from Singapore, but I live in Georgia now. In a way I'm kind of glad I'm not in Singapore right now because everything seems so hush-hush. When I went back last summer I saw... actually, I saw one lesbian couple in the MRT.
You might want to check out http://www.yawningbread.org/ - there are a couple of links on there that may be useful in finding people to hang out with.
thx theagonyofblank
Mohammed Sutan (sp?)
check out this forum
www.sayoni.com and write! been a little quiet lately.
There are quite a few girls
There are quite a few girls who fit the description lurking around this site actually! Singaporean, Chinese, female and girl-lovin'... I remember encountering quite a number when a/e still had the chatroom. I've seen some couples around in sg, most recently in the botantic gardens - they were less interested in exercising their dog than exercising uh, themselves...
Actually the internet is probably the only way to really meet girls who are in singapore isn't it? Someone once told me clubs (gay or straight) are meat markets, it's pretty hard to meet people interested in just having coffee and chilling out instead of jumping into bed and billing out.
I'm not big on socializing, so the only other place I can think of here other than work or school or clubs where it's marginally easier to meet people is the gym... That's probably a meat market of a different sort though! heh
Malaysian Chinese here
I think the gay scene in Singapore and Malaysia are quite similar but the Singaporeans are more open and happening than their counterpart.
We have a large network here in Malaysia and there are quite a number of events held every year. Personally I've retired from the scene and don't meet up with new people anymore although I think I should. Like most plu (people like us) here, I'm not out to my family but most of my friends know I am.
From what I see in the younger generation of plu, it seems that they are more outgoing in their sexuality and doesn't mind holding hand or show affection in public which is not bad at all. Perhaps they are influenced (or should I say inspired) by shows like The L Word and many other HK and Taiwan GLBT movies. And of course there's the Internet.
From Singapore but not Chinese
it's never easy to put yourself out there and i agree with anotherloserkid about some of the crap pple come up with that they think will impress you...but i think that's more a personality thing than a gay-specific problem. i guess i'd really like to meet more sapphic-minded women and grab that coffee, have decent conversations and banter long enough to build lasting relationships......it seems like that's what we all want in the end right? So all that's left now is that taking the first step...Terrifying no?
From Singapore & Am Chinese
It's not exactly difficult
It's not exactly difficult to see a lesbian in Singapore, I think they're quite visible - well, some of them are. But what I'm really interested in is how people actually get IN to the lesbian community here, and does it always have to be about the clubbing? It's almost come to the point where being a lesbian means you have to be interested in the clubbing scene.
But definitely I think it's still not easy to come out here. I'm not actually even out to anyone but myself! There's no big coming-out party a la Ellen Morgan. :)
Yup, agree...
Well, I'm a singaporean chinese and not many people come out of the closet for the fear of letting their parents and/or relatives know. There is still a stigma of being gay as parents always hope that their children would get married to a nice spouse and have children etc. Another thing is religion. Singapore is still a much close up country in many ways.
I'm not out to anyone (except to myself and my sister - she's cool with it) and i feel like i'm the only gay person living in my area. And that's a really scary feeling because i used to think that i was the only weird person in the block and that changed when i discovered AE. I really hope to meet up and chat with someone gay.
I know that the lesbian community in singapore frequent the clubs. But is there any way to get into the lesbian circle without going clubbing? I'm not really a clubbing sort of person.
Cheers
I'm out to a couple of
I'm out to a couple of very, very close friends and they know if they tell anyone else I'll strangle them. What I'm terrified of is that if I actually come out, the lesbian community will reject me - which is possibly the most humiliating thing that could ever happen to me. I'd rather not be a part of the community by choice, not because I can't get in.
But Marzas, I'm sure you're not the only gay person living in your area - lesbians are everywhere! And yeah there's Women's Nite, but I think mainly it's always about clubbing. How do you ease your way INTO the lesbian community? People always say, hang out where lesbians hang out - but it's just too weird. I'm glad I'm not the only one stuck on the fringes and too afraid to do anything about it!
Singapore lesbian scene
Marzas, go start one group then. :)
I know Sayoni is not bad, haven't been to their gatherings lately but they can be a great fun. Just that I got bored of it after a while. Sayoni is quite for people who love intelligent conversations. Or just random rants on the forum.
Womens Nite is also for the non-clubbing crowd, haven't tried that one.
Clubbing in Singapore's lesbian nightlife scene is so-so. Mainly because everyone's either androgynous or butch/active paired up with femmes. And I am lipstick. Also gets boring if you go too often, see the same people and all and it becomes routine-ish.
In fact, I think Singapore is getting a tad boring. (Get me outta here! Haha)
Peace to all.
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What Would Non-Clubbing Singaporean Lesbian Want to Do?
I echo what a lot of people had already said -- it's difficult to meet your significant lesbian other in Singapore -- especially if you are closeted and you don't believe in the pubs and the nightclubs. My parents still think homosexuality is some sort of Western perversion and it's abnormal -- and my bosses are BIG homophobes -- so I'm closeted at home and at work.
All that alcohol and loud music at the nightspots have always been BIG TURN-OFFs for me. Maybe because I'm also the reserved sort who prefer to meet someone one-on-one. I would like to have an actual conversation. I don't find conversation possible while I'm clubbing. I've also stopped drinking after I started doing yoga four years back, so pubs are out for me.
I am doomed for lesbian partnership in Singapore. :)
But then again, what would non-clubbing lesbians like to do? I guess if the non-clubbers would like to just hang out with other lesbians, we need to find some common ground besides just being gay. Some common interest or something. (Should we organise a Singapore Lesbian Bookclub? Where we read the works of Sarah Waters and Jeanette Winterson together? :p)
Anyone has any suggestions? If anyone is interested in a Singapore Lesbian Yoga Network, I will be the first one to sign up. Really.
Other getting-to-know-lesbians outlets
I know people have mentioned Sayoni, the online forum, and Women's Nite too. I really think there should be some other way of getting into the lesbian community though, one perhaps that isn't so - please excuse me - seedy. I don't mind drinking, but I'm a bit scared by the massive lesbian community that all goes out clubbing every three months to Zouk and the huge crowds at Butch Hunt and all. Very intimidating for sad closeted lesbians like us.
There's one pub I know, but again it's a pub. not a club though, no dancing, just a place to chill out - but you don't really meet people there.
I vote for Book/Movie club! It would be completely awesome to actually be able to talk about lesbian movies (one of my favourite topics) with other lesbians who've actually watched them. Why else do I come onto afterellen? :)
I would sign up for a Book/Movie Club too!
Oh yes, why else do we come to Afterellen? ;)
A while back there was some discussions on redqueen about the Taiwanese lesbian movie, "Spider Lilies" -- that was fun. I usually just lurk, but I found myself joining in the discussion about the movie that was not that great, but it was hard to be indifferent to.
I would be interested in a Singapore Lesbian Film Club. Oh yes.
Anyone else think this would be a good idea?