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Gay Predictors?

Soooo, I'm currently studying psychology in college, and we're on the topic of sexuality. From what studies have shown, apparently the main predictor of homosexuality is how people feel about sex when they are younger. Feelings of attraction toward individuals of the same sex usually emerge before biological puberty, even as early as when the person is 3 or 4 years old, preceding any homosexual encounters. So, it's not surprising when someone states "I've been that way all my life."

What I'm wondering is, for how many people in the AE community is this true? Were you attracted to women when you were very young? Or did it develop later, such as in your teen years, or possibly even later than that?

Personally, I have never been attracted to a woman before I was 17, and then all of a sudden, it was like BAM! Eh, maybe I just never thought to consider it because of the whole "Asian taboo". 


ragingzombie's picture

Hmm...

I didn't realize in until my teens. Well...like 15-16...so 3/4 years ago haha. Looking back now, I can see how I was naturally attracted to girls when I was younger...in a sense that I was always nervous to make friends with girls and I just admired them so much more. I kind of was just there...longing to be around them, but I couldn't pull away from hanging out with the guys because I was more comfortable around them. There was always just something so alluring about girls, even the snobby ones who I hated because they were bullies but still...they were pretty and I secretly smiled inside when they talked to me. I do have more girl friends now though ahah, since I gave up sports for more sleep time and studying.
My dad is also a priest and I was born into my church so I don't think I ever considered it for a long time too...as well with the asian taboo. My parents suspect it though...I have mumbled yes in my sarcastic/I'm serious way when they've asked haha.
Anonymous's picture

I have always liked girls

I remember having the biggest crushes on girls when I was younger. But the funny thing about it is that I was raised with religious parents and they always taught me that it was wrong to be homosexual (which I thought were only men at the time, because the bible only mentioned them). Even though they put that crap down my throat, I never thought that God really cared about what you liked whether it be a boy or a girl. And that was when I was like 5 years of age. Until I got little bit older like 12 and really started thinking that God really hates homosexuals, and because I wanted to be his friend at the time, I didn't even think twice about being gay. However, when I was little girl, (4 years old to up to now, lol) I would take my mother's Victoria secret magazines or other magazines that featured girls and put them in my room and look at them all day. I always preferred looking at beautiful women over beautiful men. I would play with my brother's action figures, and cut my Barbie doll's hair and make them fight or make out with each other. But I didn't start realizing that I had homosexual attractions until about 13 or 14. I always thought I was different but I just never thought about being gay, even though there were a lot of signs. Matter of fact I didn't even know women could be homosexuals and that they were called lesbians until I was 13 or 14. Then it all clicked for me. I was a lesbian. However, I didn't accept it until about 14 and didn't come out till 15...

So to answer your question in short.... yes I have always liked girls for as long as I can remember. Ok, I'm done rambling, lol   
Anonymous's picture

I had a thing for girls

I always had a thing for girls. I had many crushes on them, I even remember wanting to be a boy when I was younger so I can be with a girl because I didn’t know a girl can like other girls, (keep in mind I was 6 years old thinking this. Unlike Mandy who didn’t know until 13 or 14?!, wow) I had so many signs that I liked girls. But like many didn't even notice it or give it much thought until my teen years. It was more like my tween years though But yea, I always liked girls. ^_^  

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Zee's picture

playboyy @_@

When i was 10, my mom said, "Don't open the bottom drawer of your dad's bedside table." Since, i wasn't supposed to do it, i did it. XD I opened the drawer and foud a stash of playboys. HAHA. So, i looked through them and REALLy liked them. Felt some nice feelings down there (XD), even though i had ZERO idea what they were back then. I kept coming back to the playboys when my parents were downstairs. XDDD And in 7th grade i always bought things for girls because i wanted them to like me and be friends with me. I probbaly also had a big crush on my best friend in 6th-8th grade. We once had a big fight and "broke up". i was crying myself to sleep each night for a month. >>
M's picture

I realised I was gay when I

I realised I was gay when I was like, 11.. And now that I look back on when I was younger, I had lesbian crushes from when I was like 6 years old. I may have been even younger when I first lesbianised, but I can only remember to when I was like 6. Ive been a long time lezzer =D
Amy's picture

I remember being attracted

I remember being attracted to a girl in my junior Kindergarten class, so when I was like 4 years old. I liked her a LOT. but then on the other hand, I liked boys in my class too.

This year in psych we covered the topic of sexuality and after reading a few articles and studies, I came to my own conclusion that yes, sexuality is strongly influenced by your memories of yourself at a young age. like someone who feels they are gay will remember times when they were attracted to people of the same sex and hetero people will remember being attracted to the opposite. as children we have instances where we are attracted to both. your external influences that continue to affect you (especially during puberty) are the real determinants of long-term sexuality and predictors of your selective memory of your childhood attraction.

hobbes's picture

Genetics?

How much do external influences play a part in your sexuality? I know that heritability is a major factor in determining homosexuality. From what we've studied in class, genetics plays a huge role in sexuality. I think what this study is suggesting is that if an individual has a same-sex attraction at a young age, it's just more likely that she will grow up to be gay. I don't believe that sexuality is influenced by memories (unless you're arguing a Self-Perception Theory-ish view?). I think that memories are formed based on your sexuality (i.e. if you are straight, you will have memories of being attracted to opposite-sex individuals). Though selective memory may play a part, I don't think it largely influences these memories. Obviously, environmental factors do play a large role in determining sexuality (as evidenced by identical twins where one is gay and the other is not). 

Do you have links to these articles and studies? I would love to learn more.  

Casper's picture

Predict.. me?

I'm pretty comfortable hanging around with guys but gets really shy around girls. Topics we talk i guess. Cause most 'typical' girls would talk about their guy crushes and stuff while i'm looking around, just listening only. Most of the time i'm noticing girls only. Dont know why.

I'm not sure when it started, i guess it began young. While those kissing scenes were on tv, little girls usually go 'squealling' over it, i'm more of thinking in the other way. I've been much of a rough one. Like playing with guns and swords, and i'm actually pretty scared of dolls, barbie, those [still]. I remember the time when i would force myself to wear skirt so it looked more right? [girls wear skirts and boys wear pants] it didnt lasted long enough. Growing up along, now, theres more attractions to be seen, gradually i began noticing how some girls dressed. There's just something that attracts, cant really define it.

My good buds says i'm confused. Haha, guess i agree-ing with them.

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ClaireA's picture

I had two major crushes when

I had two major crushes when I was seven but it was only when I

was a teenager that I realised what they were. I don't remember

any kind of attraction before that – boys or girls, then bam! Two at

the same time!

Pony's picture

I remember when I was little

and all of my friends would say they wanted to marry guys they had little crushes on, way before I even knew what being gay was, I always said I wanted to marry my best friends (which were girls) and my parents would just kind of laugh it off..
I'd have crushes on guys because my older sister did and I looked up to her a lot and wanted to feel cool and mature, they were just little guyfriends of mine
eventually my mom converted to christianity and brought me with her, since I was very young, and I was taught very thoroughly that being gay was wrong so I refused to think that I could possibly be gay until I was older and started to think for myself and after dating a few guys, met a nice veeery out, older lesbian who saw right through my "oh no guys I'm totally straight" thing and had a thing for me which she made me very aware of. that was when I started to give it serious thought..

this all happened by the time I was 12. hahaha
so I guess you could say I was always that way.
I'm definitely a strong believer that people don't just turn gay, that they are born gay and it takes some longer than others to realize it and come to terms with it (or never come to terms with it..)
hobbes's picture

I agree

I'm not suggesting that I "turned" gay at all! Haha, I just don't think I ever gave it any thought. When I was younger, I was a total tomboy and never really liked to talk about boy crushes like my friends did. For a while, I thought might have been asexual. However, I've had crushes on guys before and am attracted to them, but I never even considered girls. But then I saw this amazingly beautiful girl at my freshman orientation, and that was my BAM!. It was definitely a wake up call and I began to seriously consider whether I was gay. 
Val's picture

Well

I knew I liked women when I was 11. But the only term I had heard was 'bisexual', I didn't know that you could JUST like women. I always thought you had to like boys too. There were some pretty effeminate boys I had crushes on when I was younger than that, but I was always such a tomboy. So I just went with it, until the last year or two I've been really analysing why I dated men, and my reactions and so forth. I'm really not bisexual, I can't fit that label - it was never a transitionary term, but I don't fit it any more. I really am a lesbian, and it took me 9 years to figure it out! XD
fallon ash's picture

Always felt it, but didn't have the words for it

I was always drawn to women. I remember thinking that my kindergarden teacher was the prettiest lady in the entire world. And with TV characters, I was always much more drawn to the female characters, and pretty much completely ignored the male ones altogether.

So I was very aware of the feelings I was having for women, but since people kept telling me that it was normal, and one day I would wake up and be attracted to boys, I didn't much think about it. I figured it if happened, it happened, and in the meantime I would just keep crushing on the women.

It wasn't until I was about 14-15 that I put it together with the word lesbian (I never knew any gay people growing up, nor was there any homophobia around me, but there just wasn't anyone who knew enough about it to tell me it was possible), but once I realized there was a word for it that meant I could keep having these feelings for the rest of my life, I knew that that was exactly what I was.

Sky31's picture

same here

First time I had crush on a girl is when I was 6 years old. I remember there's this girl in my class who were so cute and later she was my close friend. One day, she didn't want to play with me and later on I was jealous coz she played with another girl (we'll call her D), holding hands..laughing and stuff. I was thinking "Oh shit.. D is so lucky!" because she could hold her hands. I also was a tomboy girl (well, I still am lol). I didn't like barbies, dolls or other girls' toys. My toys are dominated with guns, action figures, or cars. Everytime my girl cousin came to my house, we'd play house and I always wanted to be the husband Lol (well, my cousin allowed me coz she didn't want to be the husband). I never had a crush on boys.. Only girls girls girls! Wait wait.. I had,but ONCE. That's because he was such a nice friend (lucky him to be the only one hahaha). But that feeling only lasted for a month, unlike the crush for girls.. It could last for years! When I watch movies, I'd pay full attention to the actresses and when the credits comes out, I'd remember the actresses' names and wrote it down to my 'Lists of beautiful actresses'! Lol. Anyway, my point is.. I don't choose to be gay. I remember reading someone's comment about being gay: "No one would choose to be something that ostracizes them from a large portion of the population and that gives them little to no protections under the law for their loved ones. That said, I wouldn't choose to be different if there was a choice to be made!" That said.. we don't choose to be gay. It just happened. And homophobes are silly! for making such an uneducated statements that being gay is a choice..
bendystrawz's picture

I was raised Catholic with a

I was raised Catholic with a mom who refused to believe that anyone can exist with values other that her own, so I didn't really know anyone COULD be gay until I was 11, let alone bisexual. Even then, I didn't make the connection with how I felt until I was 14.

Even though I wasn't fully aware of what if was until then, I remember having puppy-dog "I'll follow you everywhere" crushes on girls since kindergarden. 

knickerbockerglory's picture

forever i think..

even from the age of about 8 i always knew i was 'different' for some reason!.. i knew why i was different when i hit puberty. my phys ed teacher made me realise *drool* lol.. it was always there, i just didnt know until high school - probably because i hadnt thought about it.. looking back, i've been gay for as long as i can remember.

graceelicious's picture

never too late...

I think i was a late bloomer =) Back then i am so straight that i even keep a journal full of pictures of guys that i have a crush on. It was when i was 21 years old when i joined this forum in the web that i met this girl who was a bi-sexual and we became friends, she's older than me and she invited me to their pad with her lesbian friends and we watched re-runs of The L word and I got curious, I watched the love scenes and i remember seeing Shane and Carmen doing their thing and it really made me feel something so there...after being curious, and having alot of crushes on girls in our campus and at work, i bloomed into being me =)Maybe because of the "Asian" thing that is why most of us here in our country came out a little too late...conservative and all, up until now, i'm still not out anyway... ='(

 

 

 

 

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lovegoddess's picture

My gay prediction.........

I think I have always known. When I was about 4-5 I would always play house with my friends and I was always the boy. I was a bit of a tomboy as well, and I would act all tough and I was a show off, when I was with my girl friends...And I had a huge crush on my 3rd grade teacher. Around this same time I was like 8 and I have this cousin that is 2 months younger than me. I would always play house with her and I would always be the boy. I even remember going as far as making out with her and kinda fooled around...(Yeah a little disturbing I know).....Well we got caught by my mother, and I get a lecturing so I totally supressed my childish whims....until I was 16...I had this really good friend and we were at a party and our friends dared us to kiss,...so we did and a few months later we decided to date for a year....we broke up the beginning of senior year, due to me thinking I was bi. It wasnt until I was 18 that I met a girl that really steered me into the land of lesbianism and I haven't looked back.....I even got back together with the girl from high school and had a two year relationship with her. We broke up 7 months ago..... I think I have always known, It just took me a few different experiences, and people to realise it completly....
hypothesis's picture

Since I was young

When I was young (4-5) I really wanted to be a boy. I had short hair, played a lot of sport and always played with boys, so I think that's how it came about. Although I still play sport, I'm no longer a tomboy at all. I realised I was gay when I was about 8... I don't even know how I knew what a lesbian was - my friend and I were joking about it, and I realised that it applied to me. It took until I was 12 to really understand/accept it (which was around the time I started coming out) but it wasn't till I was 15-16 that I was comfortable to actually discuss it openly.

As for the genetics debate, I have heaps of gay relatives (two uncles, a great uncle, a cousin, my dad [kinda] are the ones we know of), but I always think a nature/nurture combination of factors is most likely. I certainly think that having gay relatives around made it a lot easier to accept my own sexuality and come out - without them it probably would have been a much slower and more painful process.

Anonymous's picture

Since young.

I tend to like an actress in a tv drama my family was watching when i was only 3/4 years old . She's very pretty and i tried to be just like her or lets say ACT like her. I'm not really attracted to other good looking male characters in the drama though. And i'm more attracted to females since i was a kid. So...i guess i'm born-gay?????

My parents are too teriffic . zzz~~

lwrdTalice's picture

Still not sure, but...

I always thought I was straight because I didn`t know any gay women and thought they were just from T.V. also when I kissed girls, they were always my freinds and I never realy felt much..but still more than with boys. I always played the guy when my freinds played house or other stuff. I always payed attention to the women on films and shows...I had lists of actresses I thought were HOT, but I had crushes on boys up untill I was 13-ish, I wondered why every boy I went out with, I ended up dumping...I always thought it was stupid when my friends would plan their marriage to a guy and icky when they had topless pictures of guys everywhere..then when I was 8 I became a MAJOR Tom-boy and girls were from a different planet than me...I realy just assumed I was straight...when I was 13 I got a HUGE crush on Alyssa Milano then Kate Moennig when I was 14...I also got a HUGE crush on my now best friend...now it`s Leisha Hailey and another girl..who makes me squeal like a girl (yes I know, I am a girl) whenever she says anything nice...*sigh* also a girl in my tutor..hehe yeh plus everything I luv is lesbian...isn`t quite evidence but still....I look back at the little me making my barbies make out and cutting their hair and then ripping off thier heads..and I like to think I have always been gay/bi or whatever..I was always different..

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SimpleChic's picture

My whole life

I always had extreme liking of females when I was a kid. It was definitely more than an I look up to her kind of thing, I just didn't know. The earliest I can remember is like 5.
frosch411's picture

mmmhhh...

thinking back to being younger (i.e. pre-teens) I always wanted to be with the girls.. but they were just playing stupid girl games, ha ha.. I, somewhat of a tomboy, preferred sports and boy's stuff (including their toys) .. still I wanted to be with girls for reasons I didn't know nor could explain (at that time I had no clue about sexuality, being gay, gender norms, etc). There was a phase when I wanted to be a boy.. but in hindsight I reckon it was because I was confused about my affinity to girls which no other girls around me exhibited too..only the boys, hence I wanted to be one of them (plus being one of the boys would make it less awkward for a girl being with them, doing the boys' stuff, etc). I also remember that I always had a certain affinity (a crush I suppose, if you can crush at such early age) to some female teachers, be it in kindergarden (started at the age of 3 I think, till I was 6) and in primary school (6-10).

Hitting teenage years and starting to widen my knowledge on sexuality and gender norms those feelings intensified to the degree of full blown physical attraction and crushes, just with the added knowledge that it's being called homosexuality by society and a no-no (or taboo at best). Cue a struggle with self for years to come to terms with it. My peers were all straight.. and raving about the opposite sex..not me. More crushes on female teachers, actresses, fellow pupils, you name it ensued. Having finally come to terms with me being who I am at the age of about 18/19 (coming out, yeay) all those childhood and teenage years finally made so much more sense!

 

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Trixie123's picture

I have always had closer

I have always had closer relationships with women.  I have only two really close male friends and never tried as hard to maintain my friendships with men as I do with women.  I definitely feel that I was more attracted to women for friendship growing up.  And...recently...my aunt told me that I have always had a thing for boobs...:)

Stephanie's picture

Wow.. I should've realised earlier!

Honestly, I might've known since I was in 3rd grade.
I only realised until 6th grade though.

I used to go to an afterschool program (Which was a pretty long one! It was until 6 oclock!)

But I kept on going because of one of the teachers there,

She was this young beautiful indian teacher, and I was so attached to her even being in 3rd grade!

Ahaha.. I have to admit.. I still have fantasies about her too! 

aDefinishChance's picture

I don't remember having any

I don't remember having any crushes on girls when I was younger. I do remember thinking that boys were gross, and not being able to relate whenever my friends talked about boys. When we had sex ed in 5th grade, I told everyone I'd go to a sperm bank and have in-vitro fertilization because I didn't want to have sex with a guy. 

I had one crush on a guy in middle school and a few more in high school. Mostly, I remember a feeling of relief and "thank god I'm normal." But I would have been really awkward and bored on a date with most of those guys.

As one of the posters above me said, I've just always had closer relationships with women. I've never had a close guy friend until this year, women are so much more interesting even as friends lol.

In the past, there were a few girls I was really attached to, or got butterflies in my stomach whenever I saw them. I just put it down to friendship or being nervous because I was shy. I even remember reminding myself not to stare at certain girls because it could be misconstrued as a sign that I was gay -- and I, of course, knew that I was straight. (I can be a little dense sometimes.)

Then, when I was 16, I completely fell for this amazing girl. A lot of things clicked for me and started to make sense. I knew that if just talking to her made me feel so happy I'd randomly burst into song and dance for the rest of the day (yes, I really did this...it's so embarrasing lol), there was no way I was straight.