Hi I'm new to this site and wondered if any of you lovely ladies can help me :)
I'm 22 married and I want to meet a nice women, i've had relations with women in the past but have never gone all the way does this still classify me as 'bi curious' i wonder lol. My husband knows I find women attractive and also knows that i'm looking for a female partner, he's not particularly happy with the situation but for the sake of our young son is willing to let me explore, so to speak.
My problem is all of my friends are straight so I cant go out with them and get to know the gay scene , I want to get myself out there I want to meet likeminded people, I want to find someone who likes me enough to teach me what i've been missing out on all these years, but other than forums like this I dont know where to start. Plus my sense of direction is terrible and i'd get lost in London very easily pmsl.
So if anyone has any ideas for me please reply or send me an im.
You're married? And you're looking to hook up with a chick? Are you in an open relationship with your husband? I dont really know your situation, but after I read the part where you said you are married with a KID! I stumbled over your words. Do you love your husband? Do you love your family? If you do, then forget anyone else. You got married...honor your vows...why would you marry and have a kid if you weren't in love? Is he not enough? Don't threaten your marriage for the sake of curiosity. Maybe the reason why you're searching for a woman is because you're not completely happy in your current situation. Are you looking for a woman to hook up with...woman are complicated...good luck finding a woman who wants to share you with your husband and child!
I dont mean to be harsh and drowned you in questions, but have you thought about it all?
Are you really going to take the higher ground here and state what constitues a marriage?? How is that any different than the republicans or religious right-wing stating that a marriage is only between a man and a women? This woman is not cheating on her husband, as he has knowledge of it. Every marriage is different and should not be narrowly defined (IMO).
God I wish you lived in my area. I am in a similar situation as you except for a couple of things. I too am curious to be with women. I have done it before and went pretty far with it but that was a few years ago. I have a boyfriend and child with him but still fantasize about women. All my friends are straight too and I have no idea where I can go and meet other women to have a drink with and who knows what else. I live in the SF Bay Area and would love some guidance.
I've been into women, even though I didn't know it, pretty much my whole life. I was never the girl who had posters of hot guys all over her walls, instead Christina Aguilera was more likely to be found. I finally got in touch with the fact that I am interested in women sexually and emotionally when I was about 16. I have yet to experience meeting a woman I think is amazing (I came from a very straight laced small town), or having any kind of a relationship with a woman. I am having a hard time with the fact that something so important to me I have yet to experience, if I ever can. I am in a great relationship with an amazing man. I mean the kind of relationship one can see themselves in for a long time. He knows I am interested in woman, but we are committed. I feel so in love, but at the same time so confused, like there is this whole part of me I am going to miss out on. Me and my bf live together as well. As far as a threesome gose I know not only would it mess up what I have with my bf, but I want my first experience with a woman to be special, to be just me and her, and to be about a relationship too, not just a threesome for sexual experience. Anyways I just needed somewhere to say all this stuff that is on my mind. Has anyone else ever found themselves in this situation, or something similar?
i know exactly how you feel... i believe i can relate to your situation. i am married to a decent man. all of my life, tho, i have been interested in women, altho it has only been in the last 2 years that i have come to admit it to myself. looking back, i guess i was always afraid to go with it for a lot of different fears. also, looking back now, it is quite clear what i have always felt. and, like i said, i have finally come to admit it to myself. i fell in love with a woman (yes, while i am married.) i had one intimate 'relationship' before with a woman when i was 18-19 years old. things were different back then. altho it was not [i:254ae9b04b][i]that [/i:254ae9b04b][/i] many years ago, i wish that i could have followed thru with what i feel towards women sooner. no, my husband does not know what i feel. i want to do the right thing but there is so much involved now. and i am afraid. i do not want anyone to be hurt by what i feel.
dazed 1, I'm in a very similar situation. I made a post on this board called "Bi with a Boyfriend" recently. I can relate 100% to what you wrote - I could have written your post myself.
"I am having a hard time with the fact that something so important to me I have yet to experience, if I ever can."
I feel exactly the same way. EXACTLY the same way.
"I'm in a great relationship with an amazing man. I mean the kind of relationship one can see themselves in for a long time."
Yes, same here, and therein lies the difficulty ...
"I feel so in love, but at the same time so confused, like there is this whole part of me I am going to miss out on."
I know! I am strongly attracted to women, more than I am to men. Not having had the experience of being with a woman (not just sexually, although that too) has really been on my mind recently. I feel like I'm repressing a large part of my sexuality. Even though I'm in such a good relationship and so happy with my BF, I don't know how to reconcile this issue. I feel like if I'd at least had a FF experience, then I wouldn't be SO curious, you know ... the whole thing of not knowing what it would be like.
"As far as a threesome goes I know not only would it mess up what I have with my bf, but I want my first experience with a woman to be special, to be just me and her, and to be about a relationship too, not just a threesome for sexual experience."
My BF and I have talked about this kind of thing (he is well aware of my attraction to women) and I don't think we could ever have a threesome. It would cause too much jealousy on his part. But the main reason is that like you, I'd want my first time being with a woman to be a meaningful experience, just me and her, and not just some hookup. For me it's less about the sex than just wanting to be in a relationship with another woman. We are obviously very similar in our ways of thinking about this issue.
It's a real catch-22 ... I don't have any situations, but I just wanted to say that I hear you. I'd love to takl about this more if you're keen
I've been kvetching about this very situation lately. Like many of you, I'm in a fabulous, delicious, LOVING relationship with the best boyfriend in the world, but my other side's been calling.
I'm admittedly a bit more attracted to women than men...about 60% / 40% in favor of grrlz...that sounds awful, but that's the most accurate way I can explain it. I suppose I'm kinda closeted; some friends know that I'm bi, including my man; but not my family. And lately I've been craving something I haven't had for years: a woman's touch, kiss, grr... I'm 7 years into the best relationship I've ever had and suddenly I'm craving women!
I still crave my man, he's amazing...in all ways. For the past month or so, I've just told myself that as long as I'm in a relationship, my other sexual desires have to live solely in my fantasies...which is great, until I run into that girl in person...looking like a goddess...excited to see me...she's very tactile, too - a "hands-on" friend as it were...
Right now, my craving is all about sex; probably because my man fulfills all of those other intimate needs. I'm just afraid my desire may grow into something that destroys what he and I have built.
We've discussed the threesome, which I don't think he'd be comfortable with...I've done it before, but it's certainly not the ideal solution.
ok iv been attractd to chicks for quite some time im only 17 an have been in 1 relationship that ended on good terms jus she travels alot so it came to hard to continue that relationship. a week ago i met up with a male mate of mine hes 19 an iv none him for a month, we went to the beach and he told me he likes me in a closer way. i think hes a terrific bloke better then our aussy males, the thing is im attracted to chicks about 80% then males but i know my parents will never wana know me if i told them im into chicks, so i feel like i should be dating guys to make my family happy , but i keep thinking y am i trying to make my family happy and not me but if i was to lose my family id never be happy because we are soo close. i told this guy i need time to think about it cause i no that everytime i c a chick i like, ill wont them everytime over this guy. but this guy like really digs me and hes really charming and sweet. wat do i do, say yes to this guy and c wat happens or just tell him no. advice needed very quickly thanks heaps guys =)
Ok well, I'm 18 and i've only had one girlfriend who was/still is the love of my life. We ended on bad terms and was pretty hurtful for me as she cheated on me then moved to a different continant. But i'm having a really hard time getting over her as it was almost 2 years since we have broken up and i can't stop comparing other girls to her. I really don't know how or what i should do to get over her.
My best friend has been bi for as long as I've known her (9 years) but has never actually had an open relationship with a women, in fact she had been with the same guy for 7 years. I have always thought I was straight and had never had feelings for women. A couple of years ago we were both in similar situations: single, out of college, working hard, partying hard. We got really close, we would spend the night in each other's place and shared a bed most weekends after clubbing. We were inseperable, went on road trips, cruises, you name it. One random night a massage turned into something more and for the next few months we had a secret love affair. We fell in love and the sex totally rocked my world. For the first time in my life I was having mulitle orgasms and it just felt totally right. I worshipped her and she would do anything for me. But we didnt want to be open lesbians for the fact that we are very ambitious and intelligent women who want a family and also we like men.
We realized that if this kept going on, we would damage our friendship, and eventually hurt each other. We also started dating guys and the jealousy was making us fight a lot. When our hetero relationships started to get serious, we decided to stop our crazy sex affair. But it wasnt that easy.We would still sneak around our boyfriends' backs and couldnt be alone together because we would act on it, every time. our desire for each other was stronger than anything.
Our guilt of cheating on our boyfriends (who we were in serious relationships with at that point) was too much and we made a pact. The pact was we couldnt be alone, ever again, and if we were ever single again we would be together in the open, but for now we would be on hold.
So we went back to being best friends, but it was never the same. She was jealous of my boyfriend and was not happy for me when he proposed and i accepted. I was also extremely jealous when she got engaged and could not imagine being her maid of honor.
Now a days, we try not to talk about, but the feelings are there. This past new years eve at a party in the bathroom we almost kissed, but held back. It's been a year since we have been together, but recently both of us want it more than ever. This week we are both going to be in the same city on business trips and joked around staying at the same hotel room, but I know those jokes are not that funny. If we fall back into an affair, this could end horribly, we know that. But we tried just being friends, and our feelings wont go away.
So why arent we together? Well I love my fiance and she loves hers. I want a family with him and I would never leave him. I dont know what to do....I think about her, all day, every day....and i dont know what this is. Lust? Love? i dont know....I'm at a breaking point and i feel like the next time I see, which will be in a few days, I will act on what I've been holding back all these months.
Absence does make the heart grow fonder after all...
Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? any advice?
But we didnt want to be open lesbians for the fact that we are very ambitious and intelligent women who want a family and also we like men.
Damn, I wish I'd known I couldn't be an ambitious, intelligent lesbian before I signed up for this! They lured me with a shiny new toaster... I guess that does make me stupid.
My advice? Open your mind a little bit and the rest will follow. ;)
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
You both are engaged to men. You each need to let those guys know what is going on. Let the chips fall where they may, but dont continue to lie. Repressed feelings always re-emerge. If you dont end up in bed together taking out all that bottled up energy, it will find an outlet eventually, and that wont be very pretty. If you really care about this guy at all (and even if you dont) you owe it to him to let him know.
My situation is not entirely similar to yours, but enough of it is to take me right back to the moment that I let my fear win out. I do not think that you are aware of how much you will regret not taking the chance. I think of that moment and that woman with a disturbing regularity and it hurts almost as much now as it did then (over ten years ago) It is one of those life moments that you realize that you can not fix every mistake.Be honest with the men and take the chance even if it does not work out it is better than a life time of what ifs.
I was engaged to a man but madly in love with a woman too once; I "took the chance" and have never regretted it. Not only that, I tore down a lot of stereotypes along the way. My wife and I want children (eventually), I never had to get that spikey haircut and my invitation to join the Olympic softball team was obviously lost in the mail.
(Which was what I meant by "open your mind"... you can still be you and be in love with a woman. Heck, you already are. :)
Good luck.
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
Here goes, I am engaged to a very lovely guy. He makes me feel very loved, and I love him so much.... but... I am attracted to women, and if I admit it, I am not attracted to him at all. I have just given up on that part of my life. I have had amazingly strong feelings for 1 particular girl for over a year (she likes me, but not enough that it would go anywhere... which hurts me when I think too hard about it!) There is no comparison to my feelings for this girl compared to my fiancee, but it is just lust I guess! I know I would be so happy if I could find those kind of feelings in a relationship but am I just being unrealistic? I would be scared to end up with nothing because I'm searching for the end of the rainbow!
Hey guys - i hope u find a way to understand what you want. i have a little problem from the other side..... thing is - i have this friend, she has a boyfriend and they seem really happy! Buuuuut i hav a hinch she has a thing for me, and i don't know what I should do.
I'm staying at he house on friday, theres gonna be alcohol involed as well, um, do u think i should madly flirt with her to see what she does? or just kiss her? help?
Ok I have been with my husband for 10 years but I have always liked girls. When I was younger I would always look at my girlfriends and fantasize about being with them. I was always the popular girl that guys hit on but never girls I think because they never even thought I could like them. Anyway I never had the chance to be with a girl but ever since 2 years ago it has just been stuck in my mind. I went to Vegas with my husband and one night we ended un in a high end strip club. One of the dancers thought I was really hot and came up to my husband and asked to give me a lap dance. OH my God it was the best experience I ever hadm so many feeling poped out of my body that I think that if he hadn't been their that night something would have happened.... Ever since then my atraction to women is more intense. I wish I could find that one special person that would take me into a new world of emotions and sensations
Ever since then my atraction to women is more intense. I wish I could find that one special person that would take me into a new world of emotions and sensations
My situation is some what familiar. I've been together with my boyfriend for 2 years. I've known that I was probably gay or bi, mmm about 7 years ago, but i've never acted on it. I've had weird moments with some girls, the type of moments where you swear you're sure that the girl is into to you. But i've always been to afraid to actually make a move. I live in a very small country and trust me if I ever made the move and was wrong, EVERYBODY would know.
I am in particularly confusing situation right now. Take yesterday for example, i spent the whole day with my boyfriend. The morning and the afternoon was very special, i knew that i wanted to marry him, that he was the one. BUT then at night we came back to my place, and spent the night together, when it was over i knew that i couldn't marry him, and i knew that i was probably BI. It's really confusing because i really do love him. My friends say that i can't really say i'm bi or anything because i haven't tried it. But sometimes you just know.
So Dayanna28 I can TOTALLY relate, i know what you mean when you say Ever since then my atraction to women is more intense.
Te entiendo, yo me siento exactamente igual. Es un sentimiento, una sensacion que no se puede describir. Es mas intenso y como mas interesante que mi atraccion hacia los hombres. No se, no se compara. Vos no sentis raro, q pues estando casada, q no podas alguna vez probar algo diferente... Es q yo me siento asi a veces, mi novio es el novio ideal. Pero no se.. si lo amo, pero creo q quiero probar otra cosa. Pero ni modo que le voy a cortar por un capricho, va no se..
Sorry if i wrote the previous paragraph in spanish, but it was easier to express completely how i felt in spanish.
I wish also i could meet a girl who could make me feel what i've always wanted to feel, make see a world i've seen but never felt.
My advice to friends of mine who think they may be bi is to 'figure it out asap'. You can talk about living your life the way you want to until it makes you crazy, or you can actually live your life the way that will make you happy. Who knows, maybe it's not for you? But at the very least, you might find an answer and can jump a hurdle.
I had a friend say to me the other day: 'Maybe I'm bi, I've been thinking about it since I was 14.' That really blew my mind. Now, she's in a position in her life where she can actually make some changes to figure it out. When kids are involved and there are marriages, it's more complicated.
My advice to friends of mine who think they may be bi is to 'figure it out asap'. You can talk about living your life the way you want to until it makes you crazy, or you can actually live your life the way that will make you happy. Who knows, maybe it's not for you? But at the very least, you might find an answer and can jump a hurdle.
I had a friend say to me the other day: 'Maybe I'm bi, I've been thinking about it since I was 14.' That really blew my mind. Now, she's in a position in her life where she can actually make some changes to figure it out. When kids are involved and there are marriages, it's more complicated.
I thought I was bi from an early age, possibly even gay. I always formed huge intense crushes on girls, and was always drawn to them as a young child. When I was 18 I met a girl who I instantly hit it off with, and we engaged in an intense friendship. I guess I didnt realise at the time, but it was more than friendship; the emotions I had for her were way beyond those you normally have for your friends. Embarrassingly, I think everyone realised this but me.
When I did finally figure it out, I was embarrassed by it, and I pushed her away. We lost that closeness for over a year you know, and when we did eventually decide to act on it... the boat had sailed. The first time we slept together, it was incredible for me to be intimate with her. But she felt it was too much for her, and I guess I felt rejected. She ended up going away to study for a year abroad (we got together a month or so before she left) and we tried to make it work, and for a few months it did, but then we broke up. When she left, she still didnt feel able to be physically intimate with me. So i never got to experience that typeof relationship with her, as we ended up breaking up.
Anyway, I ended up meeting another girl a bit later and it was great, but the sexual side of it... I didnt enjoy so much. I loved this girl very much, but sexually there was something missing. And in the end, I started to not want to even try to improve the sexual side of it...We're not together now unfortunately, which is partly to blame on the following...
This is where for me the confusing part comes in; although I dont really fancy any guys I meet, I am still sexually curious about them. I think about heterosexual sex as more of a turn on than lesbian sex. I've never been with a guy; i've been in sexual relationships with one, but i have never had full intercourse. I've had the chance to, but havent done it. I dont know why, really, apart from the fact I find it a bit shameful. I dont know, i find guys emotionally vapid; they do nothing for me in the emotional sense...
Yet I am more likely to find male-female sex arousing than female-female. I guess it is because I like the thought of pleasure without any sort of investment, or at least thats what I am guessing... I dont really know. It makes me anxious; I thought when I fell in love with a woman, that sex would come as a given, but I guess it hasnt. I am not looking to date a guy, i find women attractive as people and emotionally interesting... but I dont understand why the rest hasnt clicked into place.
Do you think an individial can be split into two beings 1) sexual and the 2nd) emotional? I worry I might be straight mascquerading as gay some times, because of the sexual side of things. It makes me worry, esp. as I feel that would really reflect badly on my previous relationships, which have meant more to me than any one i have ever had with a guy.
This response isn't an answer to your questions -- only you'll be able to find that through time, but hopefully it'll give you some comfort.
My advice would be to not stress too much for now with labeling yourself and trying desperately to see which box you fit into. Someone once told me this, and I fully agree: experiencing the "coming out process" will make you so much more appreciative and aware of your sexuality in the end. So, whether or not you discover that you're gay, bi or straight, at least you took the time to explore those avenues for yourself.
I'm not one to say that sexuality is fluid and changes from month to month, but you will find that the sexual intensity you feel differs from person to person. This may seem really common-sense, but I say this bc it's ok to have experienced a relationship where that element isn't there. It does not necessarily mean that you're not attracted to women...maybe it was just that your particular interactions with this woman didn't do it for you?
I recently had a conversation with a bi friend and asked her to explain it to me, bc I personally don't understand her feelings. Her response was, "Being bi means I look at the person, and I'm open to having a relationship with that person, regardless of gender bc I try and view others holistically." Bottom line...take it slow, don't pressure yourself, and be open to what you're comfortable with. Things will all fall into place...I promise :)
This makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you for this sage advice.
I have been reading and reading and reading (finally) and see how many kids at 12, 13, 15, 17 are coming out...and here I am in my pathetic little heterosexual lifestyle "bi" closet. That's how I FEEL.
But the reality is that I just wasn't ready to deal with it until now.
It is more complicated with marriages and kids and such. And the way I see it is there is going to be a loss somewhere...be it with my wants and needs being thwarted or in losing my marriage (which may not be as sad for me as it would be for him) or with my kids respect, or friends or whatnot. It's a lot to weigh.
So how does one "figure it out"?
I have, indeed, had an attraction to women which I quickly quelled at 8...EIGHT, ladies. My cousins were teasing me for being a "lezzie" and I figured that was something bad (goodness knew I didn't want to stand out any more than I already felt I did) and everytime I felt an attraction I smashed it down.
Now I have attractions that I've let out and comment on (my partner knows I'm bi but has made it clear he can't deal with anything other than monogamy) but now they are overwhelming and constant. So am I an addict? Am I a lesbian? Am I bored? Am I selfish?
I'm just going to take some time and figure it out. And when I know, I'll do something about it one way or the other.
But I have to add: If you can figure it out before kids and marriage...do...do do DO!
Thank you all for you comments.... But it still dosen't solve my problem. I don't know where to start. Unless a girl approaches me I would never approach her .. so at this rate I will never have the opportunity
Well...I guess that's a different problem: lack of confidence. I think everyone's been there. A woman can only approach you if you're in a place to be approached. So I guess you can find a good place...but you have to figure out what you want first to find the right place. If you're that nervous, then...baby steps. Get a local paper and find out where the spots to hang out are. There's a forum here called International where a lot of people post about local events. Try reading some topics there or post to ask questions about your area.
I'm feeling very lucky and on the brink of being a new person, taking baby steps like you say. I'd had a hetro relationship since uni and was engaged. I thought I was totaly happy with that life, and I could have lived it. The wedding was planned but then he decided to leave me unexpectedly for someone else. But it freed me because for the first time I can realy think about what I want and support myself without needing a guy. I've had loads of crushes on women but never done anything before. Well, I'm being brave, and little by little a new person is emerging. Last night I even checked out a gay bar and went alone because none of my straight friends were keen to go- it was pretty empty!- but I did it, next time I might even stay more than an hour. :-) It just great to see that there are other people going through the same thing on this site. Good luck in learning.
yeah I guess i've told my story a couple of times and it doesn't get me anywhere. And I don't know if it'a lack of courage, but where i live there are NO places to hang out, well places to meet women, being a woman. And i also, need to be approached cause i don't think i could approach anyone. Ok i did once, there was this girl, and i was so sure. But suddenly i stopped seeing her, she went away to school, so when i ran into her, back in town. I went up to her at a bar and said, hey i had a dream about you. And she got this really awkard look on her face and said something like yeah right, or fuck you, i dont remeber. It was a long time ago, now that i think of it, i really think its funny. But the good thing is that making that well semi, very little move, made me get over her, i was like, well i tried.... But i haven't done anything ever since. And having a boyfriend i guess really draws girls away.
Baby steps huh, well it's really hard to take them in a place where you can't go to a gay bar, they don't exist here. i don't know anybody who's gay. all the girls i believe are gay, have or have had a boyfriend. so i don't know, it's hard. So i guess i agree with what somebody said, I'll never get a shot.
I can't even put my picture in my profile... I'm afraid somebody from this small country will see it, and tell everybody... :(
I thought about it, and well isn't that the point, that somebody should see the picture and then maybe i'll have some similar friends. but still, i can't come around to it. I would hurt too many people if they knew.
I THINK YOU NEED TO STOP WORRING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WILL REACT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO TELL THEM THAT YOUR GAY OR BI. I KNOW ITS HARD BUT YOU GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. AND I MEAN BRUTALLY HONEST. YOU GOTTA ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS . ITS NOT YOUR RESPOSIBILITY. YOU CANT CONTROLL THEM AND YOU CANT LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR THEM. YOU GOTTA LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOU. I SAY GO FOR IT. F**K EM. DO WHAT YOU WANT . I KNOW YOUR SCARED, I WAS TERRIFIED BUT JUST DO IT. TAKE ONE SMALL FIRST STEP. POST YOUR PICTURE ON YOUR PROFILE AND GO FROM THERE.
IMHO the only person that matters in this situation is yourself, certainly not our opinions or those of others. But saying that, if you're not ready to come out then I don't think you should. You have nothing to be ashamed of but let's face it - in this world (particularly in certain countries), it's extremely difficult to be gay. If you're not at a point in your life where you feel you are equipped to deal with that (and in some countries coming out can be dangerous), I don't think you should come out. You shouldn't feel shame because you're in the closet though. We were all there at one point and it's society's fault, not ours.
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
I agree with you koma, i'm a muslim, married but have strong feelings for girls and i can't come out because what will be done of me, i just can't imagine it, so its upto the individual if they want to come out or not.
Whenever I go out, I try to step a little bit more out of my comfort zone. It's hard if you're geographically limited. Are there any types of ladies nights in straight bars? You know, if there are bars? Are there any alternative bands coming from out of town that you could go see...scope out the crowd?
I had a friend who actually met her partner at a pride event hundreds of miles (and a different country) away. What about vacations? Do you have family in larger cities you can visit? Do you have friends you can trust that love you enough to hang out in a place out of their element?
I do feel you pain though - that's why when I got old enough I moved to the big city, where the opportunities were greater. It must be hard if you don't have those options.
I WISH IT WAS EASY IN FACT JUST SIMPLE TO COME OUT, BUT NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
I AM 22YRS OLD AND HAVE HAD THESE FEELINGS SINCE I WAS 13 OR 14, AND BECAUSE OF HOW SOCIETY, MY FAMILY AND MY FRIENDS ARE I AM AFARID TO COME OUT. IN THIS SMALL COUNTRY THEY WOULD POST YOUR PHOTO AND E-MAIL IT TO EVERYONE IN CYBERWORLD.
I KNOW THIS DOESN'T HELP YOU BUT AT LEAST U KNOW U R NOT ALONE IN THIS.
WHAT HELPS ME IS THAT THERE ARE A FEW PERSONS I CAN TALK TO ABOUT IT, BUT ONLY IF I REFER TO IT OR TALK ABOUT IT AS IF IT WAS A DREAM.
I hate to hear that people cannot be themselves due to family issue and being afraid of society. It's 2007 for goodness sakes. I came out when I was 17 I have had people tell me that I am going to hell, they are going to beat me with their belt, slit my throat. But you know that makes me come out even more. That makes me proud of who I am, I am just trying to live and they are the ones who preach about living, yet they want to destroy me. I love being who I am and I make no apologies, I hope all of you one day will too.
Hello everyone I was wondering if I could get some advise from all of you that have more experience than I do. I just met this girl who is a friend of my aunt's she is really beautiful and I just found out that she is gay. We have talked several times on the phone and we even went out for a cup of coffee. We talked about a lot of things and I had a really good time. I think I really like her when she was going to say goodbye she leaned over and kissed my cheek i thought I was going to faint I had never felt like this for a friend. I think she dosen't approach me like that because she knows that I am married but I would really like her too. What should I do???
Hello everyone I was wondering if I could get some advise from all of you that have more experience than I do. I just met this girl who is a friend of my aunt's she is really beautiful and I just found out that she is gay. We have talked several times on the phone and we even went out for a cup of coffee. We talked about a lot of things and I had a really good time. I think I really like her when she was going to say goodbye she leaned over and kissed my cheek i thought I was going to faint I had never felt like this for a friend. I think she dosen't approach me like that because she knows that I am married but I would really like her too. What should I do???
CAN ANYONE GIVE THIS GIRL ADVICE, THIS WOMAN NEEDS YOU, WELL I WILL GO ON MORE DATES WITH HER, TO MAKE SURE IF SHE IS INTERESTED IN THE WAY YOU WANT HER TO BE BUT IF YOU FELT IT WITH THE LITTLE KISS ON CHEEK, JUST GO FOR IT AND TELL HER HOW U FEEL OR ELSE YOU WILL REGRET IT, WHAT DO OTHERS THINK, I'M PRETTY CRAP AT THIS.
Hello everyone I was wondering if I could get some advise from all of you that have more experience than I do. I just met this girl who is a friend of my aunt's she is really beautiful and I just found out that she is gay. We have talked several times on the phone and we even went out for a cup of coffee. We talked about a lot of things and I had a really good time. I think I really like her when she was going to say goodbye she leaned over and kissed my cheek i thought I was going to faint I had never felt like this for a friend. I think she dosen't approach me like that because she knows that I am married but I would really like her too. What should I do???
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I'm a 17 year old Dane in the middle of finding myself.
I've earlier been into guys, but since one year ago I've just continued being confused about my sexuality. I don't know if I even like guys. And to be honest I'd rather be with a girl than a guy. And I keep getting more sure of me being lesbian, but I also keep wondering why the hell I've liked guys before while feelings for guys have simply dissappeared now. And I wonder if the feelings were real back then, because I don't really remember it.
So, while I'm tempted to just say 'hey, I'm gay', I don't wanna lie to anyone (especially not myself) if I'm actually bi. And I'm afraid that I will, instead of finding out what I am, choose what I am. Though at the same time I really don't wanna get together with a boy. It kinda digusts me... does that mean I'm gay btw?
Have anyone else felt this way? and if so please give me some advise and maybe tell me your story.
Ok. Everything I have read on this hasn't really helped the people looking for advice. And even though I am only a 17 year old bisexual lesbian, I feel that I can give you some help, maybe.
For all of those who think that they might be questioning their sexuality while being married, I think you all should go out and just see what happens. I know this will be stabbing your husbands in the back, but if you just went and had a relationship with a woman that you found intriguing and it DIDN'T work out then you could just go back to your husband, because obviously women aren't for you, but if you did get that feeling that you were actually comfortable with yourself, and that you know that that is where you were supposed to be in the first place, then tell your husbands and even if you get a divorce, you will know that it's for the right reasons.
Dayanna28, I think that you should see what happens with her, try to make the first move, if she is afraid because you are married, then YOU do it. If all she did was kiss your cheek then, I KNOW she wants more. Kissing the cheek is like a question. It's like saying "I want to do more, but I don't know if you'll let me. What do you think?" I think next time, if she ever DOES kiss your cheek again, then maybe move your head to where she kisses you instead. That will lead to so much more and you will find out if it was the right thing to do because you won't know if you don't try.
Basically the only thing I can say to anybody here is if you think you are gay/bi, then just act on it for christ's sake. There's nothing else you can do. Loving someone is the same no matter what, take things as they come, and if they don't come on their own, then make them come. If you want something bad enough, go for it, if you aren't sure, go for it. And it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, it's only what YOU think that matters. I know you will get a lot of hardships, but it will all blow over, and when you find someone that you love, then NOTHING else will matter even if people hurt you, it will be like it's just you and her.
Love is a crazy, yet beautiful thing. Just let it happen.
Quite frankly, I find your flippant attitude towards infidelity to be disturbing. Relationships, especially long term relationships, are built on foundations of honesty, trust, mutual respect and communication. Cheating tears at all of these. It doesn't matter that you're cheating with a woman instead of a man.
That's just it. I think we've put ourselves into a position where we are damned if we do and damned if we don't (to use the Chrisitian language with which I was raised and have left behind...but it is still there). If I don't explore my sexuality I won't know if I'm a lesbian "for sure" (though some of you seem to know it without acting on it...and I have acted on it prior to my marriage but was too freaked out to LIVE it). But if I DO explore with women, I'm a cheating backstabber. Good times.
Yes, I can be honest. Have been honest with my partner and he's adamantly opposed to open relationships. Opposed to me dating women. I'm sure I could try again and make it more clear...that is an option. But again with the fear. So I'm starting to see this is a fear of self/identity thing. I'm not going to be acceptable I'll lose all that I have, comes to mind. Yes, even in 2007.
but more about your marriage. Do you want to stay in the marriage or do you want out. Period.
If you want to date other people, you need to get a divorce.
If you want to stay in the marriage, you need to stop giving power to fantasies about other people, and move on with your family.
And, I disagree with you; you are not damned either way! You will be empowered by choosing a path.
I urge you also to think of the other people involved. What if you "explored" with another woman who cared for you and then stayed with your husband? What would that do to her?
My brother-in-law has been dating this woman for almost a year now and from the very first moment I saw her I've been head over heels. I've been trying to get over these feelings since I met her but they won't go away. She's sweet, friendly and really likes testing out her drink mixing skills on me. My fear is that one of these times after having too many drinks I'll slip up and say something. I keep telling myself that the situation is impossible. I'm married, she's straight and practically my sister-in-law, matter of fact that's how she introduced me to her parents. But whenever she's around I find myself wanting to be close to her. Sometimes I'm ok. Most of the time it's agonizing. How do you get over a crush?
"There's no such thing as morals, just people with specific preferences."
I've had debilitating crushes on people who were completely unavailable, and the only way I could get beyond it was to pray to have the desire removed. I did it every day and after a few days, I felt much better and the desire had subsided.
Sometimes the unavailability itself is a huge aphrodisiac. Don't get under its spell.
So I was madly in love with an older woman, but since I've never been in a relationship with a woman, I was a little scared and so I was always thinking about her but wasn't sure if dating her was such a good idea. When I finally realized that I really wanted her, I went to her place and told her I was in love, but she said it was too late but that we could still be friends. I find it hard to do but I wanna try because she's really important to me. From that moment, I just wanted to meet another girl because I felt that boys weren't my thing anymore... But just as I was sure I would never fall for man again, this man came along and he's like an amazing person that I love to be with and I always want to be with him. We really connect on many levels and I feel good when I'm around him and now, we're kind of dating .. well we're seeing each other... I really like him a lot but even if I wanna try, I still have the feeling that I want to be with a woman. I'm afraid to let him go just like I did with the woman I was in love with, but at the same time, I'm scared to be in a relationship with a man because I don,t want to hurt him if it doesn't work for me... How come I'm so complicated ???
"Seize the day or die regretting the time you lost"
I came across this and found it pretty helpful, hopefully somebody else will too.
Difficulty: Hard
Time Required: Five minutes or more
Here's How:
If
you see someone who is interesting, go over to her and strike up a
conversation. The easiest thing to do is to compliment her on
something. "I really like your hair. Who cuts it?" or "Those are great
shoes, where did you get them?" End with an open-ended question, so she
has to engage with you.
Don't just go up and offer to buy
her a drink. Find something to talk about: the pool game, the band
that's playing or last night's episode of The L Word.
Make eye contact and smile. Try to seem confident, even if you aren't. Women respond to that.
Be friendly and courteous. Even if you and she don't hit it off, she could have a friend that you like.
Pay attention to how she reacts
and respond accordingly. If you're sensing she's interested, try
flirting a little. Tell her she has beautiful eyes or she's a good
dancer.
Don't be too pushy. After talking for a while,
introduce yourself, say it was nice meeting her and excuse yourself and
walk away. See if she approaches you later. Or you can return later to
ask her to dance or say you enjoyed talking to her and would like her
phone number.
Try to find something that you have that
she wants- information about tickets to a sold out show, the name of
that new self-help book, an extra car phone charger that just happens
to fit her phone- and get her number so you can call her about it later.
Have
a wing woman -- a friend who comes to the bar with you to boost your
confidence and to check in with after you talk to someone.
Congratulate
yourself. No matter what the outcome, you took a risk and put yourself
out there. Have a drink or a dance to celebrate.
Tips:
Be yourself. Don't try to impress her with something about yourself that isn't true.
Set realistic expectations. Your goal should be to talk to someone, not to necessarily get her number or ask her on a date.
It can be easier to approach someone in a small group than a gorgeous woman standing by herself.
Have a card printed up with your name and phone number that you can give to people if they ask.
where to start
Hi I'm new to this site and wondered if any of you lovely ladies can help me :)
I'm 22 married and I want to meet a nice women, i've had relations with women in the past but have never gone all the way does this still classify me as 'bi curious' i wonder lol. My husband knows I find women attractive and also knows that i'm looking for a female partner, he's not particularly happy with the situation but for the sake of our young son is willing to let me explore, so to speak.
My problem is all of my friends are straight so I cant go out with them and get to know the gay scene , I want to get myself out there I want to meet likeminded people, I want to find someone who likes me enough to teach me what i've been missing out on all these years, but other than forums like this I dont know where to start. Plus my sense of direction is terrible and i'd get lost in London very easily pmsl.
So if anyone has any ideas for me please reply or send me an im.
TIA
Nicky x
Seriously
You're married? And you're looking to hook up with a chick? Are you in an open relationship with your husband? I dont really know your situation, but after I read the part where you said you are married with a KID! I stumbled over your words. Do you love your husband? Do you love your family? If you do, then forget anyone else. You got married...honor your vows...why would you marry and have a kid if you weren't in love? Is he not enough? Don't threaten your marriage for the sake of curiosity. Maybe the reason why you're searching for a woman is because you're not completely happy in your current situation. Are you looking for a woman to hook up with...woman are complicated...good luck finding a woman who wants to share you with your husband and child!
I dont mean to be harsh and drowned you in questions, but have you thought about it all?
Why did you get married?
Traci
Are you really going to
Are you really going to take the higher ground here and state what constitues a marriage?? How is that any different than the republicans or religious right-wing stating that a marriage is only between a man and a women? This woman is not cheating on her husband, as he has knowledge of it. Every marriage is different and should not be narrowly defined (IMO).
Hi Nicky, God I wish you
Hi Nicky,
God I wish you lived in my area. I am in a similar situation as you except for a couple of things. I too am curious to be with women. I have done it before and went pretty far with it but that was a few years ago. I have a boyfriend and child with him but still fantasize about women. All my friends are straight too and I have no idea where I can go and meet other women to have a drink with and who knows what else. I live in the SF Bay Area and would love some guidance.
figuring things out
kristy77 wrote:i know
I can definitely relate
dazed 1, I'm in a very similar situation. I made a post on this board called "Bi with a Boyfriend" recently. I can relate 100% to what you wrote - I could have written your post myself.
"I am having a hard time with the fact that something so important to me I have yet to experience, if I ever can."
I feel exactly the same way. EXACTLY the same way.
"I'm in a great relationship with an amazing man. I mean the kind of relationship one can see themselves in for a long time."
Yes, same here, and therein lies the difficulty ...
"I feel so in love, but at the same time so confused, like there is this whole part of me I am going to miss out on."
I know! I am strongly attracted to women, more than I am to men. Not having had the experience of being with a woman (not just sexually, although that too) has really been on my mind recently. I feel like I'm repressing a large part of my sexuality. Even though I'm in such a good relationship and so happy with my BF, I don't know how to reconcile this issue. I feel like if I'd at least had a FF experience, then I wouldn't be SO curious, you know ... the whole thing of not knowing what it would be like.
"As far as a threesome goes I know not only would it mess up what I have with my bf, but I want my first experience with a woman to be special, to be just me and her, and to be about a relationship too, not just a threesome for sexual experience."
My BF and I have talked about this kind of thing (he is well aware of my attraction to women) and I don't think we could ever have a threesome. It would cause too much jealousy on his part. But the main reason is that like you, I'd want my first time being with a woman to be a meaningful experience, just me and her, and not just some hookup. For me it's less about the sex than just wanting to be in a relationship with another woman. We are obviously very similar in our ways of thinking about this issue.
It's a real catch-22 ... I don't have any situations, but I just wanted to say that I hear you. I'd love to takl about this more if you're keen
Katherine
So glad I'm not alone...
I've been kvetching about this very situation lately. Like many of you, I'm in a fabulous, delicious, LOVING relationship with the best boyfriend in the world, but my other side's been calling.
I'm admittedly a bit more attracted to women than men...about 60% / 40% in favor of grrlz...that sounds awful, but that's the most accurate way I can explain it. I suppose I'm kinda closeted; some friends know that I'm bi, including my man; but not my family. And lately I've been craving something I haven't had for years: a woman's touch, kiss, grr... I'm 7 years into the best relationship I've ever had and suddenly I'm craving women!
I still crave my man, he's amazing...in all ways. For the past month or so, I've just told myself that as long as I'm in a relationship, my other sexual desires have to live solely in my fantasies...which is great, until I run into that girl in person...looking like a goddess...excited to see me...she's very tactile, too - a "hands-on" friend as it were...
Right now, my craving is all about sex; probably because my man fulfills all of those other intimate needs. I'm just afraid my desire may grow into something that destroys what he and I have built.
We've discussed the threesome, which I don't think he'd be comfortable with...I've done it before, but it's certainly not the ideal solution.
Still confused,
C@
advice needed quickly
Ok well, I'm 18 and i've
In love with my best friend
My best friend has been bi for as long as I've known her (9 years) but has never actually had an open relationship with a women, in fact she had been with the same guy for 7 years. I have always thought I was straight and had never had feelings for women. A couple of years ago we were both in similar situations: single, out of college, working hard, partying hard. We got really close, we would spend the night in each other's place and shared a bed most weekends after clubbing. We were inseperable, went on road trips, cruises, you name it. One random night a massage turned into something more and for the next few months we had a secret love affair. We fell in love and the sex totally rocked my world. For the first time in my life I was having mulitle orgasms and it just felt totally right. I worshipped her and she would do anything for me. But we didnt want to be open lesbians for the fact that we are very ambitious and intelligent women who want a family and also we like men.
We realized that if this kept going on, we would damage our friendship, and eventually hurt each other. We also started dating guys and the jealousy was making us fight a lot. When our hetero relationships started to get serious, we decided to stop our crazy sex affair. But it wasnt that easy.We would still sneak around our boyfriends' backs and couldnt be alone together because we would act on it, every time. our desire for each other was stronger than anything.
Our guilt of cheating on our boyfriends (who we were in serious relationships with at that point) was too much and we made a pact. The pact was we couldnt be alone, ever again, and if we were ever single again we would be together in the open, but for now we would be on hold.
So we went back to being best friends, but it was never the same. She was jealous of my boyfriend and was not happy for me when he proposed and i accepted. I was also extremely jealous when she got engaged and could not imagine being her maid of honor.
Now a days, we try not to talk about, but the feelings are there. This past new years eve at a party in the bathroom we almost kissed, but held back. It's been a year since we have been together, but recently both of us want it more than ever. This week we are both going to be in the same city on business trips and joked around staying at the same hotel room, but I know those jokes are not that funny. If we fall back into an affair, this could end horribly, we know that. But we tried just being friends, and our feelings wont go away.
So why arent we together? Well I love my fiance and she loves hers. I want a family with him and I would never leave him. I dont know what to do....I think about her, all day, every day....and i dont know what this is. Lust? Love? i dont know....I'm at a breaking point and i feel like the next time I see, which will be in a few days, I will act on what I've been holding back all these months.
Absence does make the heart grow fonder after all...
Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? any advice?
Lesbian = stupid and lazy? Gee, thanks!
Damn, I wish I'd known I couldn't be an ambitious, intelligent lesbian before I signed up for this! They lured me with a shiny new toaster... I guess that does make me stupid.
My advice? Open your mind a little bit and the rest will follow. ;)
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
You got a toaster??! Fuck,
You need to start being honest.
You both are engaged to men. You each need to let those guys know what is going on. Let the chips fall where they may, but dont continue to lie. Repressed feelings always re-emerge. If you dont end up in bed together taking out all that bottled up energy, it will find an outlet eventually, and that wont be very pretty. If you really care about this guy at all (and even if you dont) you owe it to him to let him know.
ps... I am still waiting for the toaster.
I have always regretted not being honest
take the chance!
Yeah that. ^
I was engaged to a man but madly in love with a woman too once; I "took the chance" and have never regretted it. Not only that, I tore down a lot of stereotypes along the way. My wife and I want children (eventually), I never had to get that spikey haircut and my invitation to join the Olympic softball team was obviously lost in the mail.
(Which was what I meant by "open your mind"... you can still be you and be in love with a woman. Heck, you already are. :)
Good luck.
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
Hmmm..
... not such an unusual situation then..
Here goes, I am engaged to a very lovely guy. He makes me feel very loved, and I love him so much.... but... I am attracted to women, and if I admit it, I am not attracted to him at all. I have just given up on that part of my life. I have had amazingly strong feelings for 1 particular girl for over a year (she likes me, but not enough that it would go anywhere... which hurts me when I think too hard about it!) There is no comparison to my feelings for this girl compared to my fiancee, but it is just lust I guess! I know I would be so happy if I could find those kind of feelings in a relationship but am I just being unrealistic? I would be scared to end up with nothing because I'm searching for the end of the rainbow!
Kind of the same but reverse?
Hey guys - i hope u find a way to understand what you want. i have a little problem from the other side..... thing is - i have this friend, she has a boyfriend and they seem really happy! Buuuuut i hav a hinch she has a thing for me, and i don't know what I should do.
I'm staying at he house on friday, theres gonna be alcohol involed as well, um, do u think i should madly flirt with her to see what she does? or just kiss her? help?
Same boat and worse
OMG
Dayanna28 said:
Ever since then my atraction to women is more intense. I wish I could find that one special person that would take me into a new world of emotions and sensations
me..*faints* lol
Confused??
My situation is some what familiar. I've been together with my boyfriend for 2 years. I've known that I was probably gay or bi, mmm about 7 years ago, but i've never acted on it. I've had weird moments with some girls, the type of moments where you swear you're sure that the girl is into to you. But i've always been to afraid to actually make a move. I live in a very small country and trust me if I ever made the move and was wrong, EVERYBODY would know.
I am in particularly confusing situation right now. Take yesterday for example, i spent the whole day with my boyfriend. The morning and the afternoon was very special, i knew that i wanted to marry him, that he was the one. BUT then at night we came back to my place, and spent the night together, when it was over i knew that i couldn't marry him, and i knew that i was probably BI. It's really confusing because i really do love him. My friends say that i can't really say i'm bi or anything because i haven't tried it. But sometimes you just know.
So Dayanna28 I can TOTALLY relate, i know what you mean when you say Ever since then my atraction to women is more intense.
Te entiendo, yo me siento exactamente igual. Es un sentimiento, una sensacion que no se puede describir. Es mas intenso y como mas interesante que mi atraccion hacia los hombres. No se, no se compara. Vos no sentis raro, q pues estando casada, q no podas alguna vez probar algo diferente... Es q yo me siento asi a veces, mi novio es el novio ideal. Pero no se.. si lo amo, pero creo q quiero probar otra cosa. Pero ni modo que le voy a cortar por un capricho, va no se..
Sorry if i wrote the previous paragraph in spanish, but it was easier to express completely how i felt in spanish.
I wish also i could meet a girl who could make me feel what i've always wanted to feel, make see a world i've seen but never felt.
My advice to friends of mine
My advice to friends of mine who think they may be bi is to 'figure it out asap'. You can talk about living your life the way you want to until it makes you crazy, or you can actually live your life the way that will make you happy. Who knows, maybe it's not for you? But at the very least, you might find an answer and can jump a hurdle.
I had a friend say to me the other day: 'Maybe I'm bi, I've been thinking about it since I was 14.' That really blew my mind. Now, she's in a position in her life where she can actually make some changes to figure it out. When kids are involved and there are marriages, it's more complicated.
figure it out...
My advice to friends of mine who think they may be bi is to 'figure it out asap'. You can talk about living your life the way you want to until it makes you crazy, or you can actually live your life the way that will make you happy. Who knows, maybe it's not for you? But at the very least, you might find an answer and can jump a hurdle.
I had a friend say to me the other day: 'Maybe I'm bi, I've been thinking about it since I was 14.' That really blew my mind. Now, she's in a position in her life where she can actually make some changes to figure it out. When kids are involved and there are marriages, it's more complicated.
I thought I was bi from an early age, possibly even gay. I always formed huge intense crushes on girls, and was always drawn to them as a young child. When I was 18 I met a girl who I instantly hit it off with, and we engaged in an intense friendship. I guess I didnt realise at the time, but it was more than friendship; the emotions I had for her were way beyond those you normally have for your friends. Embarrassingly, I think everyone realised this but me.
When I did finally figure it out, I was embarrassed by it, and I pushed her away. We lost that closeness for over a year you know, and when we did eventually decide to act on it... the boat had sailed. The first time we slept together, it was incredible for me to be intimate with her. But she felt it was too much for her, and I guess I felt rejected. She ended up going away to study for a year abroad (we got together a month or so before she left) and we tried to make it work, and for a few months it did, but then we broke up. When she left, she still didnt feel able to be physically intimate with me. So i never got to experience that typeof relationship with her, as we ended up breaking up.
Anyway, I ended up meeting another girl a bit later and it was great, but the sexual side of it... I didnt enjoy so much. I loved this girl very much, but sexually there was something missing. And in the end, I started to not want to even try to improve the sexual side of it...We're not together now unfortunately, which is partly to blame on the following...
This is where for me the confusing part comes in; although I dont really fancy any guys I meet, I am still sexually curious about them. I think about heterosexual sex as more of a turn on than lesbian sex. I've never been with a guy; i've been in sexual relationships with one, but i have never had full intercourse. I've had the chance to, but havent done it. I dont know why, really, apart from the fact I find it a bit shameful. I dont know, i find guys emotionally vapid; they do nothing for me in the emotional sense...
Yet I am more likely to find male-female sex arousing than female-female. I guess it is because I like the thought of pleasure without any sort of investment, or at least thats what I am guessing... I dont really know. It makes me anxious; I thought when I fell in love with a woman, that sex would come as a given, but I guess it hasnt. I am not looking to date a guy, i find women attractive as people and emotionally interesting... but I dont understand why the rest hasnt clicked into place.
Do you think an individial can be split into two beings 1) sexual and the 2nd) emotional? I worry I might be straight mascquerading as gay some times, because of the sexual side of things. It makes me worry, esp. as I feel that would really reflect badly on my previous relationships, which have meant more to me than any one i have ever had with a guy.
~Confused. Experimenting was supposed to help!
Figuring it all out...
Confused,
This response isn't an answer to your questions -- only you'll be able to find that through time, but hopefully it'll give you some comfort.
My advice would be to not stress too much for now with labeling yourself and trying desperately to see which box you fit into. Someone once told me this, and I fully agree: experiencing the "coming out process" will make you so much more appreciative and aware of your sexuality in the end. So, whether or not you discover that you're gay, bi or straight, at least you took the time to explore those avenues for yourself.
I'm not one to say that sexuality is fluid and changes from month to month, but you will find that the sexual intensity you feel differs from person to person. This may seem really common-sense, but I say this bc it's ok to have experienced a relationship where that element isn't there. It does not necessarily mean that you're not attracted to women...maybe it was just that your particular interactions with this woman didn't do it for you?
I recently had a conversation with a bi friend and asked her to explain it to me, bc I personally don't understand her feelings. Her response was, "Being bi means I look at the person, and I'm open to having a relationship with that person, regardless of gender bc I try and view others holistically." Bottom line...take it slow, don't pressure yourself, and be open to what you're comfortable with. Things will all fall into place...I promise :)
a bit late
This makes a lot of sense to me. Thank you for this sage advice.
I have been reading and reading and reading (finally) and see how many kids at 12, 13, 15, 17 are coming out...and here I am in my pathetic little heterosexual lifestyle "bi" closet. That's how I FEEL.
But the reality is that I just wasn't ready to deal with it until now.
It is more complicated with marriages and kids and such. And the way I see it is there is going to be a loss somewhere...be it with my wants and needs being thwarted or in losing my marriage (which may not be as sad for me as it would be for him) or with my kids respect, or friends or whatnot. It's a lot to weigh.
So how does one "figure it out"?
I have, indeed, had an attraction to women which I quickly quelled at 8...EIGHT, ladies. My cousins were teasing me for being a "lezzie" and I figured that was something bad (goodness knew I didn't want to stand out any more than I already felt I did) and everytime I felt an attraction I smashed it down.
Now I have attractions that I've let out and comment on (my partner knows I'm bi but has made it clear he can't deal with anything other than monogamy) but now they are overwhelming and constant. So am I an addict? Am I a lesbian? Am I bored? Am I selfish?
I'm just going to take some time and figure it out. And when I know, I'll do something about it one way or the other.
But I have to add: If you can figure it out before kids and marriage...do...do do DO!
Ayo
What to do!
Well...I guess that's a
Being Brave
I'm feeling very lucky and on the brink of being a new person, taking baby steps like you say. I'd had a hetro relationship since uni and was engaged. I thought I was totaly happy with that life, and I could have lived it. The wedding was planned but then he decided to leave me unexpectedly for someone else. But it freed me because for the first time I can realy think about what I want and support myself without needing a guy. I've had loads of crushes on women but never done anything before. Well, I'm being brave, and little by little a new person is emerging. Last night I even checked out a gay bar and went alone because none of my straight friends were keen to go- it was pretty empty!- but I did it, next time I might even stay more than an hour. :-) It just great to see that there are other people going through the same thing on this site. Good luck in learning.
sera?
yeah I guess i've told my story a couple of times and it doesn't get me anywhere. And I don't know if it'a lack of courage, but where i live there are NO places to hang out, well places to meet women, being a woman. And i also, need to be approached cause i don't think i could approach anyone. Ok i did once, there was this girl, and i was so sure. But suddenly i stopped seeing her, she went away to school, so when i ran into her, back in town. I went up to her at a bar and said, hey i had a dream about you. And she got this really awkard look on her face and said something like yeah right, or fuck you, i dont remeber. It was a long time ago, now that i think of it, i really think its funny. But the good thing is that making that well semi, very little move, made me get over her, i was like, well i tried.... But i haven't done anything ever since. And having a boyfriend i guess really draws girls away.
Baby steps huh, well it's really hard to take them in a place where you can't go to a gay bar, they don't exist here. i don't know anybody who's gay. all the girls i believe are gay, have or have had a boyfriend. so i don't know, it's hard. So i guess i agree with what somebody said, I'll never get a shot.
(Does staring at a girl count?)
no display pic
I can't even put my picture in my profile... I'm afraid somebody from this small country will see it, and tell everybody... :(
I thought about it, and well isn't that the point, that somebody should see the picture and then maybe i'll have some similar friends. but still, i can't come around to it. I would hurt too many people if they knew.
HURTING PEOPLE?
I THINK YOU NEED TO STOP WORRING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WILL REACT WHEN YOU DECIDE TO TELL THEM THAT YOUR GAY OR BI. I KNOW ITS HARD BUT YOU GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF. AND I MEAN BRUTALLY HONEST. YOU GOTTA ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU TAKE OWNERSHIP OF OTHER PEOPLES FEELINGS . ITS NOT YOUR RESPOSIBILITY. YOU CANT CONTROLL THEM AND YOU CANT LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR THEM. YOU GOTTA LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOU. I SAY GO FOR IT. F**K EM. DO WHAT YOU WANT . I KNOW YOUR SCARED, I WAS TERRIFIED BUT JUST DO IT. TAKE ONE SMALL FIRST STEP. POST YOUR PICTURE ON YOUR PROFILE AND GO FROM THERE.
Re: Hurting People
Agreed. Is about you. Only you. Nobody else. And it is difficult, and scary but at the end only you will get hurt if you are not true to yourself.
"Life is not neasured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away"
Be safe
IMHO the only person that matters in this situation is yourself, certainly not our opinions or those of others. But saying that, if you're not ready to come out then I don't think you should. You have nothing to be ashamed of but let's face it - in this world (particularly in certain countries), it's extremely difficult to be gay. If you're not at a point in your life where you feel you are equipped to deal with that (and in some countries coming out can be dangerous), I don't think you should come out. You shouldn't feel shame because you're in the closet though. We were all there at one point and it's society's fault, not ours.
True happiness, we are told, consists in getting out of one's self, but the point is not only to get out, you must stay out; and to stay out you must have some absorbing errand. -Henry James
I agree with you koma, i'm a
Whenever I go out, I try to
Whenever I go out, I try to step a little bit more out of my comfort zone. It's hard if you're geographically limited. Are there any types of ladies nights in straight bars? You know, if there are bars? Are there any alternative bands coming from out of town that you could go see...scope out the crowd?
I had a friend who actually met her partner at a pride event hundreds of miles (and a different country) away. What about vacations? Do you have family in larger cities you can visit? Do you have friends you can trust that love you enough to hang out in a place out of their element?
I do feel you pain though - that's why when I got old enough I moved to the big city, where the opportunities were greater. It must be hard if you don't have those options.
COMING OUT?
WELL THATS THE SUBJECT OF THE DAY.
I WISH IT WAS EASY IN FACT JUST SIMPLE TO COME OUT, BUT NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
I AM 22YRS OLD AND HAVE HAD THESE FEELINGS SINCE I WAS 13 OR 14, AND BECAUSE OF HOW SOCIETY, MY FAMILY AND MY FRIENDS ARE I AM AFARID TO COME OUT. IN THIS SMALL COUNTRY THEY WOULD POST YOUR PHOTO AND E-MAIL IT TO EVERYONE IN CYBERWORLD.
I KNOW THIS DOESN'T HELP YOU BUT AT LEAST U KNOW U R NOT ALONE IN THIS.
WHAT HELPS ME IS THAT THERE ARE A FEW PERSONS I CAN TALK TO ABOUT IT, BUT ONLY IF I REFER TO IT OR TALK ABOUT IT AS IF IT WAS A DREAM.
Coming out
Advise
RE advice
RE advice
don't be fooled
gay women are EVERYWHERE.
check out gaydargirls.com if you want to meet lesbians and bisexuals from your country. i live in mauritius at the moment, and it's worked for me! btw, no country is smaller than mauritius!
appleheart wrote: Hi
Hi everyone!
I'm a 17 year old Dane in the middle of finding myself.
I've earlier been into guys, but since one year ago I've just continued being confused about my sexuality. I don't know if I even like guys. And to be honest I'd rather be with a girl than a guy. And I keep getting more sure of me being lesbian, but I also keep wondering why the hell I've liked guys before while feelings for guys have simply dissappeared now. And I wonder if the feelings were real back then, because I don't really remember it.
So, while I'm tempted to just say 'hey, I'm gay', I don't wanna lie to anyone (especially not myself) if I'm actually bi. And I'm afraid that I will, instead of finding out what I am, choose what I am. Though at the same time I really don't wanna get together with a boy. It kinda digusts me... does that mean I'm gay btw?
Have anyone else felt this way? and if so please give me some advise and maybe tell me your story.
thanks xxx
Ok. Everything I have read
Ok. Everything I have read on this hasn't really helped the people looking for advice. And even though I am only a 17 year old bisexual lesbian, I feel that I can give you some help, maybe.
For all of those who think that they might be questioning their sexuality while being married, I think you all should go out and just see what happens. I know this will be stabbing your husbands in the back, but if you just went and had a relationship with a woman that you found intriguing and it DIDN'T work out then you could just go back to your husband, because obviously women aren't for you, but if you did get that feeling that you were actually comfortable with yourself, and that you know that that is where you were supposed to be in the first place, then tell your husbands and even if you get a divorce, you will know that it's for the right reasons.
Dayanna28, I think that you should see what happens with her, try to make the first move, if she is afraid because you are married, then YOU do it. If all she did was kiss your cheek then, I KNOW she wants more. Kissing the cheek is like a question. It's like saying "I want to do more, but I don't know if you'll let me. What do you think?" I think next time, if she ever DOES kiss your cheek again, then maybe move your head to where she kisses you instead. That will lead to so much more and you will find out if it was the right thing to do because you won't know if you don't try.
Basically the only thing I can say to anybody here is if you think you are gay/bi, then just act on it for christ's sake. There's nothing else you can do. Loving someone is the same no matter what, take things as they come, and if they don't come on their own, then make them come. If you want something bad enough, go for it, if you aren't sure, go for it. And it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, it's only what YOU think that matters. I know you will get a lot of hardships, but it will all blow over, and when you find someone that you love, then NOTHING else will matter even if people hurt you, it will be like it's just you and her.
Love is a crazy, yet beautiful thing.Just let it happen.
What's the color of love?
Quite frankly, I find your
Aye, there's the rub
That's just it. I think we've put ourselves into a position where we are damned if we do and damned if we don't (to use the Chrisitian language with which I was raised and have left behind...but it is still there). If I don't explore my sexuality I won't know if I'm a lesbian "for sure" (though some of you seem to know it without acting on it...and I have acted on it prior to my marriage but was too freaked out to LIVE it). But if I DO explore with women, I'm a cheating backstabber. Good times.
Yes, I can be honest. Have been honest with my partner and he's adamantly opposed to open relationships. Opposed to me dating women. I'm sure I could try again and make it more clear...that is an option. But again with the fear. So I'm starting to see this is a fear of self/identity thing. I'm not going to be acceptable I'll lose all that I have, comes to mind. Yes, even in 2007.
Ayo
it seems like the question is not about your sexuality
but more about your marriage. Do you want to stay in the marriage or do you want out. Period.
If you want to date other people, you need to get a divorce.
If you want to stay in the marriage, you need to stop giving power to fantasies about other people, and move on with your family.
And, I disagree with you; you are not damned either way! You will be empowered by choosing a path.
I urge you also to think of the other people involved. What if you "explored" with another woman who cared for you and then stayed with your husband? What would that do to her?
Women are not caves to "explore."
How Do You Get Over A Crush?
My brother-in-law has been dating this woman for almost a year now and from the very first moment I saw her I've been head over heels. I've been trying to get over these feelings since I met her but they won't go away. She's sweet, friendly and really likes testing out her drink mixing skills on me. My fear is that one of these times after having too many drinks I'll slip up and say something. I keep telling myself that the situation is impossible. I'm married, she's straight and practically my sister-in-law, matter of fact that's how she introduced me to her parents. But whenever she's around I find myself wanting to be close to her. Sometimes I'm ok. Most of the time it's agonizing. How do you get over a crush?
"There's no such thing as morals, just people with specific preferences."
I ask my higher-power to take away the desire
I've had debilitating crushes on people who were completely unavailable, and the only way I could get beyond it was to pray to have the desire removed. I did it every day and after a few days, I felt much better and the desire had subsided.
Sometimes the unavailability itself is a huge aphrodisiac. Don't get under its spell.
Look at things realistically. Good luck!
Always a boy ...
So I was madly in love with an older woman, but since I've never been in a relationship with a woman, I was a little scared and so I was always thinking about her but wasn't sure if dating her was such a good idea. When I finally realized that I really wanted her, I went to her place and told her I was in love, but she said it was too late but that we could still be friends. I find it hard to do but I wanna try because she's really important to me. From that moment, I just wanted to meet another girl because I felt that boys weren't my thing anymore... But just as I was sure I would never fall for man again, this man came along and he's like an amazing person that I love to be with and I always want to be with him. We really connect on many levels and I feel good when I'm around him and now, we're kind of dating .. well we're seeing each other... I really like him a lot but even if I wanna try, I still have the feeling that I want to be with a woman. I'm afraid to let him go just like I did with the woman I was in love with, but at the same time, I'm scared to be in a relationship with a man because I don,t want to hurt him if it doesn't work for me... How come I'm so complicated ???
"Seize the day or die regretting the time you lost"
General Advice for meeting women
I came across this and found it pretty helpful, hopefully somebody else will too.
Here's How:
Don't just go up and offer to buy her a drink. Find something to talk about: the pool game, the band that's playing or last night's episode of The L Word.
Make eye contact and smile. Try to seem confident, even if you aren't. Women respond to that.
Be friendly and courteous. Even if you and she don't hit it off, she could have a friend that you like.
Pay attention to how she reacts and respond accordingly. If you're sensing she's interested, try flirting a little. Tell her she has beautiful eyes or she's a good dancer.
Don't be too pushy. After talking for a while, introduce yourself, say it was nice meeting her and excuse yourself and walk away. See if she approaches you later. Or you can return later to ask her to dance or say you enjoyed talking to her and would like her phone number.
Try to find something that you have that she wants- information about tickets to a sold out show, the name of that new self-help book, an extra car phone charger that just happens to fit her phone- and get her number so you can call her about it later.
Have a wing woman -- a friend who comes to the bar with you to boost your confidence and to check in with after you talk to someone.
Congratulate yourself. No matter what the outcome, you took a risk and put yourself out there. Have a drink or a dance to celebrate.
Tips:
Be yourself. Don't try to impress her with something about yourself that isn't true.
Set realistic expectations. Your goal should be to talk to someone, not to necessarily get her number or ask her on a date.
It can be easier to approach someone in a small group than a gorgeous woman standing by herself.
Have a card printed up with your name and phone number that you can give to people if they ask.
Sources: Mary Belge, Curve magazine sex issue.