A Recurring Side Effect Of Straight FriendsOK..This is something that I have been noticing more and more with my straight friends(and I have allot of them..I really need to get out more). I have not been near a closet for almost 16 years now but I also am not a flag wearing lesbian. That is not to say I won't correct someone in conversation, should it arise. It is just one part of me and I really am not big on talking about my personal life to strangers who don't need to know..and that includes everything..not just being a lesbian. But, I am finding my straight friends tend to point out the fact that I am a lesbian to others in conversation at any opportunity and sometimes even to me(just in case I forgot, I guess). I find this bizarre..is it their own insecurities or is being a lesbian still that much of a sideshow attraction? Anyone else find this phenomenon happening in their world?
edit: I thought of another that falls into this category..straight male friends(again.. i have allot of them..comes with the business) are fascinated with the theory that I am only one good penis away from ditching women and going to men. I am amazed at how threatened men are and how much power they give that crap between their legs.
Submitted by gato (948 posts) on July 11, 2008 - 11:29am. |
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I've had it happen some
I have started replying
Know exactly what you're saying
My ex's friends do it all the time and she gets really annoyed not only because of that, but because she identifies (as I do) as bisexual. I could care less about what people say because I know how I feel but she feels the need to correct people. I just find it annoying that they need to mention it because it's not like they (and we!) don't know. Maybe the straight girls are insecure? I don't know...
And it's not only straight friends, but gay boys as well (which I don't get why they need to point it out...?).
That's never happened to me.
thing is..somtimes i don't
thing is..somtimes i don't think they realize what they are doing.
but is just wierd..like i can't just be Cat..I am Cat "the lesbian"
That was one of the biggest
That was one of the biggest things I was worrying about before coming out. Would people only just perceive me as a lesbian and nothing else? If people are talking about me, are they gonna be like, "Isn't she gay?", "The gay one", "Oh, shes a lesbian isn't she?", "Alaina! You know her, the gay one.", "Shes gay. Oh, I know, I'm just saying..", etc. Like, thats really annoying and rude.
We're only human! And thats how I wanna be treated, like a normal human being. I don't see any needs for my straight friends to constantly bring it up or "speak" for me to the men. I'm allowed to have male friends, I can tell them about me myself or hang out with them if I want to. A few of my friends think I wouldn't care to hear about their boyfriends, because oh wait- I'm a lesbian! Not interested in boy stories, sorry. It "bothers" me. Uhh.....I never said that. No need to assume what I may or may not want to hear.
And like you said, gato, you want to be just "Cat", and not "Cat, the lesbian"; and thats how I feel about myself. I wanna be just "Alaina".
i feel/felt the same way -
i feel/felt the same way - I don't want to be known as 'Justine the lesbian'. My friends (all straight) tend to always tell others. One of them would always point out who her friends were in the photos around her house and I would always be described as - 'that's justine, she's a lesbian'. Don't get me wrong -I'm not ashamed of being a lesbian, it's just that I'm much more than that. I took the chance one day to calmly point this annoying fact out to my friends. I asked them if they describe each other as - 'this is jane - she's straight' etc. I ended up telling them to let these people meet me first so they get to make their own first impression about me before the lesbian factor distracts them.
I get the opposite with the man talk factor. They don't think twice about telling me the intimate details of their sex lives. I don't really care about this (it's gross) but a couple of them have said they never want to hear about my sex life (not that i have one).
Oh to one day live in a world where no one bats an eyelid about who yours snuggling and all relationships are 'normal'.
So, Alaina, have you tried asking your friends if they can stop doing all that you spoke about?
If they don't realize how
i think it is still the
I have a co-worker who does this
I want to punch her. Whenever she thinks some guy might be interested (I'm out in my department, but it's not like the whole university knows it) she has to bloody well open her yap. I don't know if it's so he'll [hopefully] redirect his attention to her (mmm, me smell wo-man. Uh? Dis wo-man no good? Mmm, you look'em good now.)
I mean, really. I'm so glad my real friends (who happen to be straight) are actually intelligent/sensitive enough to be my friends!
Whatever
It can be a little obnoxious and if it bothers you a lot, you should let them know, but it's not really a huge deal and it doesn't neccesarily mean that they're rude/homophobic/uncomfortable with your sexuality/ closeted/etc. People, especially in high school, are used to catagorizing things, it's silly but it's what they're used to.
I'm friends with this really lovely girl who, when she first met me, would always tell boys who were talking to us that I was gay. It wasn't that she wanted the attention directed at herself (no problem there, she was a hot Brit with a cute accent in a small New England hick town), she just thought she was doing me a favor. After a while, I patted her on the shoulder and said, "Darling, that's very sweet of you, but I can probably handle it on my own."
PS (love the thought-process, penny)
Aww
That sucks a little gato. My friends don't out me often at all, i think they're actually afraid of doing so, they're always thinking...'oooh harriet'll kill me'. Which is not true, i couldn't give a crap who knows tbh. My sisters are the complete opposite though. If there's a pause in the conversation...'Did you know, my sister's a lesbian?'. *eye roll* I'm not bothered who knows, i just don't like the limelight of people looking at me.
There was one time though that was just hilarious. My younger sister has this new sorta...not boyfriend exactly, more casual...thing going with this really nice guy. She brought him to a family party when no one had met him before. And i bumped into them in the lounge. She called me over and it went something like this:
Sister: Harriet, this is Matt.
Me: Hi, nice to meet you.
Sister: This is Harriet, my sister...
Matt: Oh right, well hi, good to meet you too.
Sister: Yeah, you know, she's the lesbian one i was telling you about...
Me: You what?! You have got to stop with this!
Sister: What?
Me: Telling everyone! I'm not bothered, but you can't use me as a conversation piece when you've run out things to say!
Sister: Why not? It's interesting, why are you even bothered?
Me: Because you make it sound like that's all I am, like i define myself as just 'the lesbian' and sometimes i don't wanna be that, i am just a person too...
Matt: Yeah, it's cool y'know, I dabble in some man-loving sex myself sometimes.
<Silence>
Sometimes I almost don't mind my sisters outing me. It was a classic, i was laughing constantly for the rest of the evening. Bless him, he was a nervous wreck. She'd thrown him right in at the deep end, family party, all her friends etc. and he was obviously trying to be jokey but it really didn't work that way. Sooooo funny.
http://www.myspace.com/good_souls
haha
I hate that too
Sort of different from the main topic, but I also really hate the fact that my opinions on the hotness of males is devalued while they feel totally normal commenting on the hotness of females.
So annoying.
What bugs me more than the random outing is the using me as a punchline of a joke. That actually hurts, whereas with the random outing (which does happen, I think it's very common) it is just kind of annoying and like they are uncomfortable.
It happens from time to time
So I put up a list of things my friends can use instead of the lesbian/gay one. Just as informative!
The funny one
The one in the Air Force
The small/tiny/little one
The big mouthed, small, North Norwegain, in the Air Force-one
And for wishful thinking I have: The cute/sweet/adorable/sexy/smart/intelligent one Though I guess they still go with gay/lesbian...
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"We're in love. W-we're lovers. We're lesbian, gay-type lovers" - Willow
Friends are one thing...
but my Mom's another. She uses it to bond with people. Like, "yeah, my daughter is gay, too." Then she calls me and tells me about the gay connection she has made, like, "Oh, so the woman I work with is a lesbian too. You should talk to her". Or, "my best friend's daughter is a lesbian, so my friend understands". "This guy that I met is great, he has a gay brother". Yada yada yada.
Fortunately, my friends simply refer to us as "the ladies". We hang out with straight couples and gay men, so we are the only "ladies" in the group.
So true
So true! Typical Mom!
But sometimes I think it comforts them to know that they're not alone with gay children
________________________
"We're in love. W-we're lovers. We're lesbian, gay-type lovers" - Willow
My sister
To impress others?
Snowgirl41
"Every person in the world has a purpose for being here—a calling".
Have a friend like that
not easy...
Snowgirl41
"Every person in the world has a purpose for being here—a calling".
It's just a label
Thanks idyphoto....
Snowgirl41
"Every person in the world has a purpose for being here—a calling".
straight people can be aggravating
especially if you're the ONLY lesbian friend, then you become the side attraction show or a piece of conversation they restore to when there is nothing to talk about.
its annoying as hell, hence why the number of my straight friends is declining.