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Being "bossed around" by her? HELP!I couldn't think of a better title for this, but basically I am badly in need of some advice and I can't go to my friends or family because they'll know if I don't take their advice and then they'll be mad at me which will only make matters worse!
Anyway, I'm 18, and my girlfriend of 16 months (on and off) is very protective and possessive over me because she is so afraid to lose me, and so she can be very paranoid and jealous which has really started to enfringe upon my social life. For example, she has told me not to go to clubs with my friends (I'm in the UK so that's legal here), not to drink, or she has specified the number of drinks I can have (usually 1, 2 or 3, and she specifies that it can't be large glass), she has told me not to see a certain friend that she doesn't like (he's gay and so am I but she's paranoid about us being alone together!), she has told me I can't stay over at friend's parties or that I have to be home by midnight, and when I am out with my friends she wants me to text every hour or every 2 hours, but if she's upset I'll have to continually text back and forth to sort it out, and she very often is upset with me when I'm out with my friends, purely because of that fact, and if I take 15 minutes to text back or something she gets really upset. In addition to this, she knows my password on bebo and myspace and reads my messages, and if I tried to change my password she'd fall out with me, and even though she can read my messages anyway she has told me only to comment certain people because she doesn't want me having private conversations with them....even though she can read them anyway! :S I really really want to go to the festival because there are loads of bands I want to see and I've never done anything like that before and I know all my friends will be talking about it for ages and I really want to feel a part of it, because thing's haven't been going so well with me and my friend's lately, because of the fact they already think I choose my girlfriend over them and they think it's really rude that I text her when I'm with them and can't join the conversation, but I feel like I don't get a choice in the matter. The questions that I am asking myself about this are, a) how could I persuade her to let me go? b) should I let the relationship end if I have to choose between it and the festival? c) should I be ending the relationship anyway, due to all these problems? In ADDITION, to how complicated this already sounds, I also have to tell you something very important, which is that my girlfriend actually has depression and so this is a major reason for her emotional problems, and she really doesn't have any very close friends, so that's why she's so dependent on me, and I know that life is really hard for her. This is why, on the times when I do think of breaking up with her, I feel like I can't because I know she is already so unhappy and she doesn't have a good group of friends to turn to so I'd feel like I was really abandoning her and leaving her in the gutter, which I really don't want to do, and I sometimes even worry what she might do if I broke up with her. She does have a therapist, which is something at least, but that isn't really enough to make a person happy, I don't think. I really want her to be happy, but I don't know if it's possible for me to make her happy without making myself unhappy, i.e. by giving up the things I want to do. And the fact that these issues are causing my friends to drift away from me is really getting me down. My mind constantly changes as well, because when I'm alone with her we have some really amazing times and I feel like I really want to be with her, but I know I need my own life and my friends too, and I need to be able to make my own decisions without having to feel like an awful person for it. If anyone can think of any advice on how to sort out this problem and stay in the relationship, please tell me!?!?! Sorry this post has been so long. But please please everyone give me any advice you can! As you can probably tell, I am in DESPERATE need of it! Submitted by Girl. (2 posts) on June 19, 2008 - 5:06pm. |
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The longer you wait...
Wow. I know it's easy to say when you're not in the relationship, but I would leave her asap. She's going to, or is already, using depression and her friendship issues to try and guilt trip you into staying with her. The entire situation sounds way too stressful, obsessive and possessive.
I think the most important thing is to ask yourself if you can see yourself happy with her in another year, or another 5 years.
Also, she should know how important the festival is to you -- No one should control someone else's life to the point they cannot do something they really want to do (That's not illegal, unhealthy and all that stuff). She's being selfish along with all of the obsessing -- I'd have kicked her to the curb long ago.
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The Gentleman Who Fell
What Harpy Said. ^^^
Basically you described an emotionally abusive relationship. The abuse doesn't leave marks but it is abuse, nonetheless.
Sorry that she is paranoid and jealous but nothing you do will ever fix that or completely satisfy her.
It is a very good thing that you are recognizing that this is not a healthy relationship but you cannot fix her or make anything completely right for her...only she can do that by seeking professional help for what must be some very heavy issues.
Whenever anyone uses guilt or fear to control your behavior, it is emotional abuse.
I tried to find a UK lgbt site as a resource for you...but the best I could do was to find a US website that has a pretty good article describing an emotionally abusive relationship so you can read it for yourself...
Emotional Abuse and Teen Dating
Please take care of yourself and do not wait. I am concerned about her actions toward you so be careful to make sure that this does not escalate to violence of some sort.
I agree with Harpy, she
I agree with Harpy, she needs to learn that she can't force someone to do something, maybe don't break up just tell her, you think it's best you "go on a break" and this will give you a chance to see how you really feel- well the both of you, really.
Hope it all works out.
good luck girl...
Right idea mr bond... but wrong pussy!
I'm no expert but i red your post, saw no reply yet and felt would lend a shoulder for a bit. Wthout knowing either of you, i assumed that each has the intention of protecting the other in different ways.Whilst you want to protect her from added stress, your gf feels a need to keep you safe by keeping you close and restricting physical objects which she has objectively found threatening like drink, i am guessing with her depression her own insecurities have added fuel to the fire perhaps?
I dont want to influence you splitting and i think you should try talking to her first. Try to get her to understand that you only have eyes for her but you need to also contact friends. If you both can't compromise, you may find the relationship will not exist on emotional blackmail alone. With no other conection, you might have to let go but try to still be a support to her. Honestly, neither of you sound like your enjoying where you are at the moment and even with depression why would you both want to spend more time scared or fighting? Either way will not be easy but a change is enivtable other wise you wouldn't have written, so try to set some basis first...like no shouting, keep eye contact and wear a helmet. I guess you can either rip the band aid off or pull a piece at a time?
"she's saying if I loved her I would"
Love,
You are in an emotionally abusive relationship with a controlling person who insecure. She needs help, and you are too young to need a second mother.
I'm not telling you to stay or go, I think you already know the answer. See a therapist or go to counseling to sort it.
Do not judge, unless you want to be judged...
Agree..
I definitely agree with Xxaire!!! Their whole statement is exactly what I would say to you as well.
If you and her go to a counselor, maybe the counselor can possibly give suggestions on how to deal with your girlfriend's depression and your relationship. While this happens (talking to a counselor), your girlfriend may be able to see what her depression is doing to you so she may open up more and go places, esp. the festival with you.
Depression seems hard to deal with (just based on what you explained) so I suggest you do a little research on the definiton of depression. It may allow you to be aware of something you did not know about before. For me, I do not know hardly anything about depression so I cannot give advice on it. You seem to really like your girlfriend so work with her and let her know about you as well. :)
respect
Sorry I haven’t read any one else’s advise. But what I read I find very disturbing! The first thing is you have to have respect for yourself! What makes you think this is love? When there is no trust there is no relationship. Sounds like she enjoys controlling you and you allowed it. Thinking this must be love. Well its not!
The best thing you can do let her go. You are not responsible for her actions after that. You did say she is seeing a therapist. So hopefully she will make good use of that.
Learn to love yourself and respect yourself and find some one that will do the same.
This relationships is going to only get worse. Get out!!!
You are 18?! These are the
You are 18?! These are the years, that no one willl look weird when you party like crazy, I was sorta in the same spot when i was 18, 2 years ago. I had a gf who always said after we had an arguement that all the bad things i said meant i didnt love her, that when i didnt text her i had lost interest. she had all these problems, on how she lost her mom, cutting etc. Its people like you and me that are showing too much sympathy, think hard.....do you really love her? Or do you just care for her? those are 2 completely different things. You know you have to get out of this relationship, i bet you are craving to have an exciting life where you can party with your friends. After a year i ended this horrible relationship, its been 4 months now and I feel great. No one should ever make you feel guilty for enjoying yourself or having friends.
do you love her? then give her an ultimatum tell her you are miserable in this sort of a relationship and that things have to change or you really will leave.
Just care for her? Then tell her you can't do this no longer, you do have a life out there that is waiting for you and there are thousands girls out there that can make you happy as well. Being in a relationship isn't everything, spending all your money on phone credit sucks.
You can offer to be her friend, but for me that wouldn't work I cut off all contact. Tell her parents to keep an eye on her or anything. You can't save people from themselves and you aren't meant to. You can only try and help them.
Holy Flashback!
I have to say that Harpy (and all the others) are correct in what they're saying. Take it from someone that has been there. Your experience gave me chilling flashbacks to my previous relationship. I wasted over seven years on the same roller coaster your riding. If you want to know how it ended, please feel free to email me.
You cannot be responsible for other people's happiness. Your girlfriend isn't paranoid - she abusive. Not allowing you to have privacy on the internet or to be able to hang out with friends is not a sign of love. It's the first set in controlling you so that she is happy and you become dependent on doing what is needed to keep her that way.
My advise: Go to the festival, enjoy yourself and re-bond with your friends. Most of all, have fun doing something you have wanted to do for some time.
Any road is a good road when you don't know where you're going.
She doesn't respect you
you have the right to your own life choices
Agreed with the above said
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Oh gosh! I beg you to get out of your current relationship!
There are teens with neurotic, controlling, micro-managing, punishing stage mothers who dream of the day they can finally be free of them. But as minors their options are limited. You are a legal adult and don't have to suffer this kind of abuse.
It's very kind and compassionate of you to want to take care of her but you also deserve some happiness of your own, and its hard to see how you can have any without personal freedom.
I don't mean to be cold blooded towards her, but she seems mentally ill. If so she does deserve care and love since she has problems. But I don't think it should be you. Maybe some relative of hers? Maybe some other woman who is older than her and suited to take care of her as a mother might a sick child? I don't think she deserves to be thrown out on the street or anything like that. But at the same time, I simply don't think you should be the one to totally sacrifice your youth and youthful interests and needs and dreams, on someone who has mental problems.
Also, as somebody said above, my instinctive reaction upon reading your story is FEAR. Serious fear. I think you need to act cautiously. Don't anger her or make her feel threatened. I wouldn't want you to become a crime statistic. You see that on the news all the time, and the victim in every instance always thinks its going to happen to someone else, until it happens to them. I beg you to quickly find some other place to stay where you are safe and in a location unknown to her!!! You said you have gay male friends. If needed see if you can stay with a gay male friend, anything, so long as you are out of potential harm's way. Jettison you personal possessions if need be. Just get yourself into a safe environment. Desperation, jealousy, abandonment. These are the kinds of emotions that can trigger violence. Don't test it. Life is not a lab course.Whoa!
This reminds me of a relationship I was in too. I dated a girl for awhile and we had a great connection. When I switched schools, we tried to make it work, but without being around her, I was able to get a better sense of myself as an independent person and I was changing. She was very jealous when I hung out with other people, and would get unbelievably angry if I didn't call or text one day. I was moving on from her, and she was scared of being without me, instead of just letting us drift apart peacefully. She also had depression problems, and it scared the hell out of me. She was a cutter and was very impulsive when she was upset (drinking, drugging, etc.) I hated this so much, but the best I could do was just tell her how I felt and tried to make her understand I wasn't leaving her as much as I was just.. changing. I still loved her, but didn't want to be in a relationship with her while she was being so manipulative, controlling and just plain difficult. I just wanted her to get over me so I could be done with such an unnecessarily stressful relationship.
I was lucky that she was a strong enough person to eventually get over it and do no harm to herself. and we still talk from time to time, just through occasional e-mails and stuff.
My advice is to definitely definitely DEFINITELY talk to her one on one, no yelling, no getting upset.. Just rational talk and fairly point out why what she's doing is wrong, and be sure to let her know it's hurting you. And where are her friends? Why doesn't she find some better things to do?
You should absolutely go to the music festival! Don't miss out on that, it'll be awesome!
If you think the relationship is worth saving, then work it out. But if it isn't, tell her that you think you'd be happier if you could have some time to figure your own life out and work on your friendships.
Good luck, and I really hope things go well!
oh dear
she absolutely is too controlling.
run, don't walk...
Don't walk away form this relationship. Run. Seriously. I've had my fair share of drama, but not quite on this scale. This woman does not own you and cannot tell you what to do.
I understand exactly what it feels like to feel like you're the only friend that someone has, especially when that person is depressed and you are (nearly) their only confidante about that. But ask yourself this: if one of your friends started behaving like this, telling you that you couldn't have any fun unless she's there (which is what this whole thing reads like to me), what would you do? The fact that you guys are (presumably) in a sexual relationship does not mean you should have a higher tolerance for bad behaviour like that.
Now it could well be that your girlfriend doesn't realise that the demands she is making of you are completely unreasonable. Maybe she's grown up in an environment where all she's seen is one partner controlling the other, but that's not an excuse. If you have feelings for her (and I noticed that at no point in your post did you actually say that you loved her, or in fact speak of anything positive the relationship brought to your life whatsoever) then give her a week to sort her shit out. Explain to her that you're not her emotional crutch, you are allowed to have a life outside her watchful gaze, change all your online passwords, and tell her to put up or shut up. Relationships aren't about one-way compromises. You've been putting up with this for 16 months. Now it's time for her to show she cares enough about you to start compromising too, and get her behaviour under control. If she's unwilling to do that, or says she's unable without trying, well, then she's made the decision for you.
I wish you the best of luck. It's a cliche I know, but there are plenty of less-high-maintenance fish in the sea. You sound like you have a great circle of friends. I'd be tempted to stick with that for a while and wait for someone new to appear.
You don't have a relationship...
I'm not trying to be harsh, but you don't have a relationship you have a person that owns you and you cower to her every demand. Nowhere in your post did you mention anything about mutual love and respect all you talk about is demands, punishment, and your feelings of guilt and obligation.
Honey I hate to tell you this but this is not a relationship! The only person that you owe any responsibility for making happy is yourself.
One thing that concerns me is that you mention early on in your post that you don't want to talk to your friends and family because if you don't take their advise then they will be mad, so I'm a bit curious....have the people that are the closest to you been concerned about what is going on for awhile and you just can't make the break? Honey if you are coming here to this board and all of us strangers tell you the same advise that your family and friends have been saying and it seems like your gut has been giving you that same advise as well? I only bring this up because I want to ask the deeper question.....are you afraid? If so what are you afraid of?
Everyone has given the advise to get out of this thing you are in...and I say the same thing, but I bet you already knew that. So honey what are you afraid of? Are you afraid of her? Will she hurt you? If so you need to tell the people closest to you!! Or are you afraid that she will hurt herself and that is the fear that binds you to this completely unhealthy aliance that you refer to as a relationship? If it is the latter then you need to know that you cannot fix her, you are not responsible for her! She is the only one that can fix herself.
My best and honest advise is to get out of this thing you call a relationship and open up to your friends and family, I bet they love you and want to support and help you.