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Senator Clinton: To VP or Not to VP....First, I would like to say. I voted for Obama. I really inspired by him. But that does not discount my love and affection for Hillary, I really do love her. However, at the end of day, I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption. Time will tell whether I was right or wrong but for all those who chose otherwise...find comfort that I voted against Bush...twice. But that's neither here nor there... Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton for VP? Submitted by Blasianbeatnik (108 posts) on June 5, 2008 - 3:01pm. |
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No . No. No... I love the
No. I think she would be a
No. I think she would be a qualified VP, but I think there are too many negatives that would surround the ticket.
1)Hillary is a polarizing figure and her negatives are quite high. I believe she would bring out the republicans, even those ambivalent about McCain.
2)Some of her pro McCain/anti Obama statements are already being used in republican attack ads, and both Obama and Clinton might have to spend a lot of time explain the sudden change of heart.
3) Hillary treated Obama with utter disdain and disrespect throughout her run. She expressed that she is ready to be president and he is not. How does someone with this train of thought relegate herself to a position where she is reporting to someone she sees as being less than she,a job she acted as if was due to her. I don't see Hillary working well as a 2nd fiddle.
4) Hillary is old school politics and those type politics are what Obama is running against and trying to change.
5) Can Hillary be trusted? She's made some questionably frightening statements and while they may not indicate ill intent as she suggests, it the risk worth it.
6)No one seems to be able to control Bill. He's been a loose cannon throughout her candidacy and while I don't think it's her job to control him, she wasn't able to keep a lid on his politcally harmful comments during her run.
7) Bill again. We don't know what's behind the financing of his presidential library. The Clintons have, in the past been loose with the ethics of business dealings. While they may not have broken laws, they did push those laws to the end of their limits.
8) Bill again. How much will he want to stick his nose in the business of the presidency and vice presidency. While he's got great skills, he certainly loves the limelight and the asset of his experience can become a detriment.
well you are right about
OMG! We agree on something
I found this interesting
I found this interesting post on the Barack Obama site about how HRC may have inadvertently helped the Barack Obama campaign, so I thought i would post it here.
I think it's time to sit back, and reflect on how important Hillary Clinton has been to the campaign and to Barack Obama personally. Now before everyone over reacts, let me explain what I mean.
Hillary Clinton completely vetted Barack Obama and did him a favor for doing so. The Reverend Wright issue was over exposed, thanks to Hillary's attacks and has now ended up being a positive for Obama. Imagine if this issue became an issue in October, it would have likely cost him the election. Because it became an issue when it did, Obama gave a speech of a generation on religion, which was viewed by millions. It will be difficult for the republicans to raise this issue in the campaign, and if they do, it will have no impact.
Hillary Clinton helped energize the Democratic base, along with Barack. No question Barack energized it more, but the competition between the two of them, got more democrats out to vote than ever experienced in a primary before. This is going to be a huge help in the November election.
Hillary forced the Obama campaign to learn how to react quickly, directly and completely to any attacks-they're now battle harded for the November election.
Hillary forced Barack to improve his performance in debates, an area he was weak in. Now I look forward to him debating McCain and expect Barack will bury him.
Hillary and Obama's platforms are very similar. Hillary presented her platfrom to millions of democrats which has to make Obama's job of explaining his platform much easier this fall.
The long contest forced Barack to build a strong grass roots organization in all states, something never done before. Now, when the Clinton volunteers and operatives are brought over, the Obama campaign has a real strong battle hardened organization in all states. John McCain cannot compete with that.
The long contest allowed the Obama campaign to experiment with various advertising campaigns and techniques to determine which ones work. This is invaluable for the Novmeber election.
I agree with the points your
Just watched her speech
Unfortunately
Although I intially thought an Obama/Clinton ticket would be a fantastic idea back in January, I'm afraid Clinton has all but killed her chances for VP. It's not because she's not qualified, but her attacks on Obama were such that they could be used by the Republicans.
I mean, she practically said McCain would make a better President than Obama. A Vice-President needs to at least appear to believe that the President is actually the best person to be President and ought to be President.
can't be trusted
First, I would like to say. I voted for Obama. I really inspired by him. But that does not discount my love and affection for Hillary, I really do love her. However, at the end of day, I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption. Time will tell whether I was right or wrong but for all those who chose otherwise...find comfort that I voted against Bush...twice. But that's neither here nor there...
Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton for VP?
"I chose inexperienced
"I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption."
How about inexperienced corruption?
The Illinois government is saturated in corruption, Antoin Rezko, Emil Jones, for example. Obama, he's either corrupt, or a tool.
At least Hillary's dirty laundry is out on the line. I'm not sure the freshman politics are a good thing. What sort of "change" are we really heading for? And even if his "new" politics are true blue, how's he going to convince the 543 members of Congress, not to mention 9 Supreme Court justices, to play along?
What does this have to do with the topic?
We are talking about VP position. Can we please have one political topic about Democrats without another round of Hillary supporters vs. Obama supporters.
Sorry
But if you wanted it to be JUST about VP position, you should have left out the little "corruption" jab.
It was a side comment, a rebuttle to your quip, if you will. If you won't that's fine too; please ignore my blurb. I will do likewise.
I didn't start the thread
I saw that part . I can't say I agree with her statement.
My apologies
The goal of this thread was not to attack Hillary supporters. In fact, I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm damn proud of her and I think she ran a fine campaign. And you're right, it is entirely unfair to classify Clinton as corrupt. I'm sure Obama has a few skeleton in the closet himself.
The only point I was trying to make (and now I see that it is irrelevant) is that I voted for Barrack b/c I found his idealism very refreshing. And he seem to act least like a politician. I guess at the end of the day, I did not want a bureaucrat as much as I wanted an activist. But I did not bridge my thoughts together very well. Hazard of blogging at work...I said all that to say, "Obama and Hillary would ideally make an excellent team." She understands "Washington"; he understands political climate of America right now...which is not just red vs. blue/dem vs. rep/lib vs. con/cnn vs. fox. It's a little more complicated than that. Nothing's black or white. I would like to personally get back to the days in which ppl actually voted from their gut and not their political party or religious affiliations.
Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton? Would she make a good ally?
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No.
No. No. No.
The first rule in choosing a