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Senator Clinton: To VP or Not to VP....

First, I would like to say. I voted for Obama. I really inspired by him. But that does not discount my love and affection for Hillary, I really do love her. However, at the end of day, I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption.  Time will tell whether I was right or wrong but for all those who chose otherwise...find comfort that I voted against Bush...twice. But that's neither here nor there...

Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton for VP?


Peachblossom720's picture

There's a story on the AP

There's a story on the AP that Obama is making all of his fund raisers be available to the media.  It's an effort to show that his administration would be more open and transparent than others.  The connection that this has with your question is that Bill Clinton has said that he doesn't intend on letting people know how he has made money since he has been out of office, and this would be a deal breaker for the Obama camp.  The Repubs. and the media would make this a big issue, and point out that it doesn't mesh with Obama's change platform.
kbeen1's picture

No . No. No... I love the

No . No. No... I love the fact a female ran in the primaries....but no...there are better female politicans than Hillary. I don't agree with her health care plan...if you want to take more money out of my pay.......with healthcare you better fix or elimanate social security. I think Hillary should just retire from politics.......give up her "robert kennedy" seat in senate to a politican who is going to work thier ass off. Not half-ass which is the case for many in congress.
The Emperor Has No Clothes's picture

No. I think she would be a

No. I think she would be a qualified VP, but I think there are too many negatives that would surround  the ticket.

1)Hillary is a polarizing figure and her negatives are quite high. I believe she would bring out the republicans, even those ambivalent about McCain.

2)Some of her pro McCain/anti Obama statements are already being used in republican attack ads, and both Obama and Clinton might have to spend a lot of time explain the sudden change of heart.

3) Hillary treated Obama with utter disdain and disrespect throughout her run. She expressed that she is ready to be president and he is not. How does someone with this train of thought relegate herself to a position where she is reporting to someone she sees as being less than she,a job she acted as if was due to her. I don't see Hillary working well as a 2nd fiddle.

4) Hillary is old school politics and those type politics are what Obama is running against and trying to change.

5) Can Hillary be trusted?  She's made some questionably frightening statements and while they may not indicate ill intent as she suggests, it the risk worth it.

6)No one seems to be able to control Bill. He's been a loose cannon throughout her candidacy and while I don't think it's her job to control him, she wasn't able to keep a lid on his politcally harmful comments during her run.

7) Bill again. We don't know what's behind the financing of his presidential library. The Clintons have, in the past been loose with the ethics of business dealings. While they may not have broken laws, they did push those laws to the end of their limits.

8) Bill again. How much will he want to stick his nose in the business of the presidency and vice presidency. While he's got great skills, he certainly loves the limelight and the asset of his experience can become a detriment.

kbeen1's picture

well you are right about

well you are right about Hillary as polerized and what her negative commets have done for obama. I'll never think she is VP material ,but that is me own opion. Yeah mr. bill clinton is a very loose cannan! I don't think he helped hillary much.
The Emperor Has No Clothes's picture

OMG! We agree on something

OMG! We agree on something :D. Glad to see that.
raziarehman's picture

I found this interesting

I found this interesting post on the Barack Obama site about how HRC may have inadvertently helped the Barack Obama campaign, so I thought i would post it here.

I think it's time to sit back, and reflect on how important Hillary Clinton has been to the campaign and to Barack Obama personally. Now before everyone over reacts, let me explain what I mean.

Hillary Clinton completely vetted Barack Obama and did him a favor for doing so. The Reverend Wright issue was over exposed, thanks to Hillary's attacks and has now ended up being a positive for Obama. Imagine if this issue became an issue in October, it would have likely cost him the election. Because it became an issue when it did, Obama gave a speech of a generation on religion, which was viewed by millions. It will be difficult for the republicans to raise this issue in the campaign, and if they do, it will have no impact.

Hillary Clinton helped energize the Democratic base, along with Barack. No question Barack energized it more, but the competition between the two of them, got more democrats out to vote than ever experienced in a primary before. This is going to be a huge help in the November election.

Hillary forced the Obama campaign to learn how to react quickly, directly and completely to any attacks-they're now battle harded for the November election.

Hillary forced Barack to improve his performance in debates, an area he was weak in. Now I look forward to him debating McCain and expect Barack will bury him.

Hillary and Obama's platforms are very similar. Hillary presented her platfrom to millions of democrats which has to make Obama's job of explaining his platform much easier this fall.

The long contest forced Barack to build a strong grass roots organization in all states, something never done before. Now, when the Clinton volunteers and operatives are brought over, the Obama campaign has a real strong battle hardened organization in all states. John McCain cannot compete with that.

The long contest allowed the Obama campaign to experiment with various advertising campaigns and techniques to determine which ones work. This is invaluable for the Novmeber election.

The Emperor Has No Clothes's picture

I agree with the points your

I agree with the points your making, except I don't know how we get past Hillary's words appearing on the commericals of the McCain backers. That's concerning to me.
the fallen's picture

Just watched her speech

and it reminded me of why I supported her at the beginning of this campaign. My only real worry with her possible inclusion as VP is Bill, Bill, Bill. He's got too much baggage both claimed and unclaimed.
GrrrlRomeo's picture

Unfortunately

Although I intially thought an Obama/Clinton ticket would be a fantastic idea back in January, I'm afraid Clinton has all but killed her chances for VP. It's not because she's not qualified, but her attacks on Obama were such that they could be used by the Republicans.

I mean, she practically said McCain would make a better President than Obama. A Vice-President needs to at least appear to believe that the President is actually the best person to be President and ought to be President.

shundra's picture

can't be trusted

Blasianbeatnik wrote:

First, I would like to say. I voted for Obama. I really inspired by him. But that does not discount my love and affection for Hillary, I really do love her. However, at the end of day, I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption.  Time will tell whether I was right or wrong but for all those who chose otherwise...find comfort that I voted against Bush...twice. But that's neither here nor there...

Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton for VP?

I voted for Clinton however, I believe she could not be trusted as an vp for Obama.
Checkas's picture

"I chose inexperienced

"I chose inexperienced idealism over experienced corruption."

How about inexperienced corruption?

The Illinois government is saturated in corruption, Antoin Rezko, Emil Jones, for example. Obama, he's either corrupt, or a tool.

At least Hillary's dirty laundry is out on the line. I'm not sure the freshman politics are a good thing. What sort of "change" are we really heading for? And even if his "new" politics are true blue, how's he going to convince the 543 members of Congress, not to mention 9 Supreme Court justices, to play along?

shygurl99's picture

What does this have to do with the topic?

We are talking about VP position. Can we please have one political topic about Democrats without another round of Hillary supporters vs. Obama supporters.

Checkas's picture

Sorry

But if you wanted it to be JUST about VP position, you should have left out the little "corruption" jab.

It was a side comment, a rebuttle to your quip, if you will. If you won't that's fine too; please ignore my blurb. I will do likewise.

shygurl99's picture

I didn't start the thread

I saw that part . I can't say I agree with her statement.

Blasianbeatnik's picture

My apologies

The goal of this thread was not to attack Hillary supporters. In fact, I'm a Hillary supporter. I'm damn proud of her and I think she ran a fine campaign.  And you're right, it is entirely unfair to classify Clinton as corrupt.  I'm sure Obama has a few skeleton in the closet himself.

The only point I was trying to make (and now I see that it is irrelevant) is that I voted for Barrack b/c I found his idealism very refreshing. And he seem to act least like a politician. I guess at the end of the day, I did not want a bureaucrat as much as I wanted an activist. But I did not bridge my thoughts together very well. Hazard of blogging at work...I said all that to say, "Obama and Hillary would ideally make an excellent team." She understands "Washington"; he understands political climate of America right now...which is not just red vs. blue/dem vs. rep/lib vs. con/cnn vs. fox.  It's a little more complicated than that.  Nothing's black or white. I would like to personally get back to the days in which ppl actually voted from their gut and not their political party or religious affiliations.

Should Senator Obama tap Senator Clinton? Would she make a good ally?

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sapphistafricana's picture

No.

No. No. No.

Sub.Textual's picture

The first rule in choosing a

The first rule in choosing a VP is 'Do no harm'. People are not likely to change their vote based on a candidate choosing a VP they like but they might if it's a VP they dislike. So it's in Obama's best interest to choose a VP that is palatable to as many people as possible. I'm not certain Hillary is that person.

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