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Are you gay for the wrong reasons?

These are some of 'wrong' reasons to be gay although the labelling of these characteristics as 'wrong' is of course, open to debate. From Wikipedia:

1) trying to increase their sexual desirability among heterosexual men
2) surprising parents or relatives with news that is presumed to be undesirable
3) surprising friends and acquaintances with news that is presumed to be shocking
4) attempting to cultivate a progressive, radical, or countercultural image
5) developing solidarity with an oppressed community
6) resorting to women out of a lack of male attention
7) have trouble or have had trouble relating to the opposite sex romantically in a healthy manner

 Personally, I prefer women because they are women! It is all the characteristics of women that attract me to them. Having had boyfriends, those relationships have never gone terribly well because of my self rather than it being the guy's fault. So I suppose there is a tiny bit of no. 7 but not hugely because I may have been kidding myself by dating men in the first place... who knows?!

What about you gals out there?


keanabug's picture

I think number 7 is actually

I think number 7 is actually a sign that you could be gay....I don't know. I don't know how to not be gay so I doubt I'm "gay for the wrong reasons".(Is there even such a thing?) I never understood why a girl would tell a guy she's lesbian to get his attention...I mean if you're trying to get him to pay attention to you because you like him or something...wouldn't him thinking you're a lesbian defeat the purpose?

I think it should be re-titled as "Wrong Reasons For Acting Gay" and the body of the paragraph should be

You shouldn't be acting gay in the first place, dumbass.

TheSkinHorse's picture

Uhmm...

I wasn't quite aware that there was *reasons* for one to be gay. I don't believe it's a choice. I don't think somebody is born that way, either, mind you.

Agree with dear keanabug, if you can't attach to the opposite sex romantically....that's, yeahhhh, probably a sign that you're simply gay. 'Wrong reason' to be gay? Uh, no. It's like somebody who can't attach to the *same sex* romantically, it's not like they have a 'wrong reason' to be straight. O.o

I've been in relationships with guys, too. And then I started developing an attraction to women. I didn't 'switch preferences' because I wasn't getting the attention I wanted from males - in fact, I still get more attention from males than I do from females.

If anybody is 'gay' for any of the majority of the reasons above, then they aren't *actually* gay, and simply kidding themselves or acting on trend.

What an interesting thing from Wikipedia, I must say. xD

brackishtea's picture

I'm gay for free drinks at the bars!!!! (Reason #1)

In these tough times I do not have as much disposable income I use to on alcohol. Alcohol is a "need" so I use other means to get my alcohol and my gayness helps...a lot. For some reason I respectfully decline an offer of a martini from a male patron but he insists I have the martini. I can't say no since I have NO MONEY and I usually have a good conversation then he's dissapointed when I tell him "Sorry sweetcheeks I'm gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! (I'm usually tipsy at this point). They still ask me out for lunch the following day....friends maybe?

Reason #2" 

I can excuse myself from embarassing conversations that starts with "So I like this guy, but he's only into blondes!"

(Me)"Sorry I'm gay, the lesbians I know are not as shallow or buy into the white male capitalist vision of beauty sorry! Should've been born gay!" 

 Reason #3:

For the fashion pfft! I love those ties with spiffy faux hawk died some different color in the front. Futchness and all its parts. Shane-clones!

"Those who do not like you fall into two categories: The stupid and the envious. The stupid will like you in five years time. The envious, never. "`_the Libertine

Bebe000's picture

you need reasons to be gay??

Whoever wrote that on the Wikipedia must be one of those ignorant straight idiots.  Do straight people need to have reasons to be attracted to the opposite sex?  I don't have any reasons for being gay.  I was born gay.  I didn't "choose" to be gay.  I only find female attractive ever since I can remember. 
Harpy's picture

Hm

This subject suggests that it is a choice to be gay.  Isn't that a common belief that we've been fighting against for, well, ever?  Though, there are no doubt women who experiment with the same sex for the above reasons, I think this question is counter-productive.  They're most likely not women who define themselves as gay.

sweettinaz's picture

Reasons?!?!?

wow... wikipedia is just stoooopid... lol

okay now that that's said... I never had "reasons" for being gay it was just always there (the attraction, the desire, the connection) I did however have "reasons" for acting straight:

1. to avoid dissapointing my family, 2. to fit in better during high school years, 3. more socially acceptable in "white-corporate-america", etc. etc. etc.

 I agree that the ones that are "gay" for any of those reason are not truly gay. Even #7 is questionable because maybe they couldnt relate romatically with opposite sex in "healthy" manner for other reasons (personality, dysfuntion, etc) People that fall in this catagory may not necessarily relate well romantially AND in a healthy manner with the same sex either... Come on ladies havent we all met at least one woman that just sucks at relationships?!?  

 

...are you ready for a sugar rush?

paradisesofar's picture

programmed

Those are reason for one to choose to turn to women.. i for one beleive i am programmed n have some kinda raydar that men just arent attracted to me and i am not attracted to them.. its like the same polarity of magnets or something... two of the same kinda just wont stick together no matter how much u force it.. 

I am not gay for any other reason then well.. loving women...

Ameara <3

nemoika's picture

 I looked on Wickipedia

 

I looked on Wickipedia (although not an extensive search) and couldn't find anything - could you possibly include a link?   Sounds like a question for the choir - it's pretty likely that most of the people on here that identify with either being gay, queer, bi, lesbian, transsexual, etc. are going to agree that it is biological and not a choice, as are most intelligent minded individuals. 

 

For me, if I wasn't queer then my life would be pretty close to the ideal - but alas, I am and so, because I had to go and lie to myself for far too many years, am in a bit of a quandary.  (Note: not that being queer, etc. is something bad or not "ideal" but for the situation that I've created, it makes it very much less ideal, but really, I love loving women!) I had no choice in the matter, I just am.  This sounds like either a hoax or something pulled from some religious site.

 

kbeen1's picture

Chioce??What??? God made me Queer Wikaped--idiot...

can I be born by chioce? c'ome I am born with certian phenotypes and genetypes that I have no control over.( except I can dye my hair and chose color contacts which covers phenotype to a degree )...homosexuality Which is genetype has been around since creation..read a history book espcecially concerning greek and roman civiliazation. so, am I gay for the wrong reasons? no I think a massive population of people are ignorant and very misinformed. Especially bible tumpers what the @## , it is called science...........a question , a hypothesise, tested experiments, proven true or false, scientific fact.. I think what wikapedia does is not crediable. I am sick of any "you chioce it attitude." or purpetuation of it. How crediable is wikapedia, c'ome?If women could choose to be gay...I would have had girlfriend(S) by now...get real.
brackishtea's picture

I thought this was a joke...

Hence my answer above, but thinking about it maybe it is about choice. I can't choose to be gay but to act on it is another thing to consider. I know I have no choice when it comes to attraction but to choose to act on it is a choice, we all know that. The only annoyance I have with it is that with us acting upon our "gayness" (sleeping with women having romantic relationships etc.) people think well you choose to be gay. One can be straight but not act upon it (sleeping with members with the opposite sex, romantic relationships etc.). I feel people get too hung up on who we sleep with. Sexuality is much more complicated than that, it's like political attitudes sometimes it's static with people kenetic with others. Wikipedia is written by our peers with "credible" citation, pure "i'm bored" fodder.  

"Those who do not like you fall into two categories: The stupid and the envious. The stupid will like you in five years time. The envious, never. "`_the Libertine

TeranisStorm's picture

ah...

whatever turns you on...i say if a girl makes you wet, that's reason enought to own some gayness...for whatever reason why you are hooking up in the first place...this topic is basically asking the same question if heterosexual couples hook up for the "right" reasons. we hook up because we are horny...and if that someone is of the same sex, but you identify as "straight" or whatever...i think you might be a little gay...

and we're in relationships because (hopefully) we feel compelled to be with that person...and you have deep meaningful soggy feelings for that person...regardless if you are in the same-sex relationship or not.

PSthatsMe

Floogle's picture

Type in 'Lesbian until

Type in 'Lesbian until graduation' in Wikipedia
anji's picture

homosexuality

what an interesting topic! i guess it would be more accurate if the title was 'do you think you are gay?' rather than 'are you gay?', but whatever...

you bring up a good point in the whole "reasons why ppl are gay" thing. personally, i believe that most ppl are capable of having some kind of homosexual feelings some time in their lives but obviously choose not to explore it, but some ppl can also be very strongly homosexual by nature. for me at least i instinctively find women attractive and crush on women on a regular basis, with boys, not at all since i was in grade school. so i notice that as i got older, i was more and more open to "looking" for attraction in women and lost my attraction in guys. i sometimes wonder if its a possibility to "train" youself or that this is your true nature coming out. so i guess it did morph throughout my growing up. so i think it is fair to speculate that ppl's orientation are more complicated than that they were just born gay or not.

also, i think that attraction or intimacy feelings are fragile and that it is possible that ppl can be swayed to lose their attraction to the opposite sex, or just have total intimacy issues from things that happened at an early age. things such as certain events in your lives, cultural influences (look at greek and roman societies), and deep down animosity towards the opposite sex, relationship with parents, escape from responsibilities, and so on, can mess w/ ppl's intimacy issues in terms of gender. so anyways, back to your point- i think the question is valid. just my 2 cents.
iPodbliss's picture

I Agree

I agree that all of those are wrong reasons to be gay. Being gay should be about being honest with yourself and accepting your sexuality if that's what you are (gay or bisexual). It shouldn't be because you want to shock your parents, friend, community, attract male attention or be the result of bad luck finding a date with the opposite sex. That isn't honesty with yourself or those around you.
miss chatelaine's picture

I think what they mean

by gay is women who pretend to be gay. Most of those reasons aren't really real reasons - who the heck would really be, BE gay to attract men or to "shock" people? There are those women out there who call themselves gay just to get attention, but it's more about labelling themselves than really BEING gay. Then again, there are straight married feminists who call themselves lesbian, that makes me confused.

Though that last reason makes no sense at all! as lots of people have said, I think it's a sign of being gay rather than a wrong reason to be gay. I'm gay, THAT'S why I can't relate in certain ways to the opposite sex!

I'm not too bothered about why people are gay. I've never thought about it, and I just don't care why. by choice, by god, by nature, by nurture, whatever.

The Emperor Has No Clothes's picture

This thread is annoying

This thread is annoying because it insinuates people choose their sexuality. Is there also an article in Wiki about whether people are heterosexual or bisexual for the wrong reasons? I don't even think we should buy into more misinformation out in the far right wing prejucided public about homosexuality by some  republican right wingers   people to discriminate against us and deny us our civil rights.

jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

Being and then BEING

Oh, I'm definitely a lesbian because I'm a relentless attention whore who lives to shock the provincials out of their collective malaise. What other reason could there be? Maybe because I fall in love with women?
Heartsease's picture

No...No...That CAN'T be it!

jennifer from pittsburgh wrote:
Maybe because I fall in love with women?
That seems too simple!
Hmmm...
There must be MORE!
We must get to the core of your Les-being, Jennifer...
;-)
Shellih's picture

List for my Mother Once

Ok so years ago after many annoying conversations with my mother where she painfully asked me "Why", I finally in a fit of sarcasim started making a list of why I was gay.  Now mind you I have been out of the closest for a very long time and have sort of an odd sense of humor so needless to say I have kept up the list just to annoy the hell out of my mother.  The list now is quite long, and luckily now that things with my mother have improved she actually helps me add to the list.

But I digress....my list is made out of complete sarcasim because what I intended to show my mother is that it isn't a concious "choice" (or at least it wasn't for me).  I didn't wake up one morning and say to myself....ah yes blue shirt, jeans, and why yes I'll be gay...that sounds nice.

Cats Have More Fun.'s picture

Despite of probably stating the obvious...

...I'm gay for all the social benefits it brings.

;-)

Shellih's picture

Discount?

Do we get a discount to any good stores?
Hijinx's picture

No choice here

This does imply choice. 

The reaction I recieved from family the first time I came out, or I should say was outed, was so horrible that I eventually made the "choice" to try and be straight.  I was successful, I built up really thick walls in my mind and had myself totally convinced I was straight. 

This made for a pretty unhappy life.  Fast forward 27 years or so, I've stopped living my life to please others.  My family, so unwilling to accept me the first time have welcomed me with open arms.

It's painful that I didn't have the "choice" to be who I really was for such a long time.  It is now time to move forward and have the happiness I denied myself for so long.  I am in love with a wonderful woman and we are working towards a life together.  To say that it is a choice to be gay is a slap in the face.  I guess for some it is and perhaps for some of those reasons listed above.  It certainly isn't a choice for any of the wonderful women I've met on this site.


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