Pepa and Silvia on Los Hombres de Paco

I can't believe I register to reply to this, either, but I wanted to be sure about something. Don't they click their tongues (twice, to be precise) to say no in english? (I'm from Spain). I love that way of saying no!!

By the way, I've never watched this show, could you tell me what's the relationship between Paco's boss and Sylvia? He was crying when he saw who was the one kissing Pepa ("doing her a favor", as we would say in spanish, would you in english?) so I guess she must be his daughter. I guess I'm going to have to watch it (Laura Sanchez is a good reason to watch it-the top model that plays Pepa).

 Cheers,

Axon (why not myelin?)

Thanks so much for the clarification about some things. Even though I don't understand Spanish, I still like watching clips because the two actresses have a palpable chemistry between them. I don't know what the hell is going on, but oh well! Sounds like the plot and relationships on the show are pretty complicated, but I did figure out that Pepa is a cop and Silvia is in forensics, although perhaps Silvia does some undercover work as well (the whole undercover operation at the dance club?). Anyway, it's enjoyable nonetheless. I had no idea that Pepa's character is an out lesbian. Paco and Pepa obviously have an interesting relationship.... brother and sister perhaps? I just remember watching a really powerful scene with Paco and Pepa that involved some sort of letter.

And I also didn't realize that Paco's boss was Sara's (the other girl) grandfather. The whole time I thought he was Silvia's father. He seemed pretty upset when he caught Silvia and Pepa through the keyhole (the only unpleasant part of that scene).

Ha, maybe I will learn Spanish out of necessity! Thanks Nordie!

ETA: Nordie, you posted right around the same time as me with some clarification regarding the relationships on the show. Thanks so much! That will potentially clear up alot. (I'm still trying to wrap my head around all the relations though.) 

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Yeah, probably not. I wish I had taken Spanish and not French in high school and college. Not that I can even understand French with all the courses I took (I have a bad memory), but maybe it would have helped with the Silvia/Pepa scenes to have gone the Spanish route. If only I had known! Clearly, taking Spanish would have been the more practical decision anyway, but c'est la vie. (C'mon, I remembered some French.)

Betty, thank you so much for the chart! It made me chuckle but it was oh so helpful. Thanks to Nordie and everyone else for helping out as well.

Laura Sanchez is certainly a beauty, (love Patricia Vico on HC too... another show I don't understand, but watch clips of anyway), and Sanchez should be commended for her expressive acting skills since it sounds like she's just a beginner on the acting scene, but gosh, I'm just a sucker for Marian Aguilera. She's just so stunning and vulnerable and.... okay, I'll stop now. Of course, the bathroom scene is terrific, but it's the scene at the door, where Silvia hesitates and decides to run after Pepa... that really gets me. Just the plethora of feelings that you can see on Silvia's face as she decides what to do. Wonderful acting.  

hi there..

Can I also join the spanish lessons for this show?

I only had the chance to watch this show in youtube, thanks for the people who uploaded the series. But there are so many cuts. I hope I can watch the full story....

One thing more, I am dieing to have a copy of its full version, do you know where can I find one?

Thanks!

Muah!

Hi, Betty:

 I'm with you, Pepa  and Nines are really cute (and Maca in "Hospital Central"). Only the first is a model, the other two are actresses. Nines  is playing a role on stage in Madrid, and I'm going to see that play tomorrow, with my girlfriend.

You're right, Sylvia (Marian Aguilera) looks a lot like Amy Adams, She's a tv actress.

We're having a lot of lesbians and gays on tv shows in Spain, and in really popular ones. I like that a lot. We need more visibility, and people are getting used to these kind of relationships thanks to roles like Maca or Pepa, or the one Anabel Alonso played on "7 vidas" (she's a great comedian).  And one of the most popular idols on "operación triunfo" (the spanish equivalent for American Idol) was Tania G.: everybody liked her (she lost because she's not a very good singer, but everybody thought she was great. And she was always talking about her girlfriend. They even thought another idol was falling in love with her, and there was a lot of gossip around that).

Cheers

thanks for the chart, Betty! that saves us all a lot of further headaches.

As for Pepa and Sara: Lorenzo is worried the whole episode that Pepa might "corrupt" Sara; he keeps watching them suspiciously and even has one big hallucination where he imagines Pepa and Sara getting into a ice-cream battle in their underwear (really weird - cue Girls Gone Wild).

That Laura Sánchez is a model (although I think P. Vico (Maca on HC) used to be a model as well... no?) struck me after seeing her upper arms - much too thin for a gun-wielding cop, and even for an actress. ;-)

As far as acting goes, I prefer Marián Aguilera, her range especially in that last episode was impressive. Of course, it's a difference between coming fresh of the runway and being a trained actor/actress, and Sánchez is doing a great job. (with a range that, e.g. & IMHO, C. Cerezuela on HC (another model-turned-actress) is lacking completely).

"Respect may not always be mutual, but it is user friendly"

Don is not a name it is the opposite of Dona it is "a title of respect" MR Lorenzo is a man of stature a Don if you will  like Don Juan or Dona Merced 

"Respect may not always be mutual, but it is user friendly"

Lucas who is now married to sarah was once married to sylvia (before pepa of course) so lucas was Mr lorenzos son in law . . .  also Montoya and sylvia were once an Item she was prego with his child when she suffered a gun shot wound  to her tummy and lost the baby and can no longer have babies  Its up to pepa to have one for them

I've been trying like crazy to be able to watch the ep online, but I can't.  I assume that is because my ip is not from Spain.  Has someone else with a non-Spain ip tried to see it with success??? 

If someone knows how to see it with a non-Spain ip could you please PM me to tell me.

I have seen all eps since Pepa came to the show and I love the story and Pepa's character!!!

Thanks!

Good Luck with your Spanish, probably is going to be better than mine soon!

Yes, betty, the one I was talking about was Tania S. There are some scenes of them hugging and being really cuddly, but it is very normal for spanish girls to be very affectionate with their friends. You could think by the way she looked at her friend that she is in love with her, but it could be only platonic and not sexual. Tania S. (allegedly heterosexual) keeps telling her how cute she is, and she even told her how she wished to cut her in peaces and eat her. You are going to think with this that she must be madly in love (or nuts!!), but the thing is that Tania S. is from Andalusia, the southern region of Spain, and people there are very passionate and exaggerated, really extreme (and very funny, they are the best telling jokes). I know it for sure , I'm from that region though I live in Madrid.

The gossip was not only because of the way Tania S looks at Tania G, and what she tells her. One of them was going to be eliminated the next day, and Tania S. asked Tania G. if they could sleep together that night, their last night. Tania G. looked like she thought it was not the best idea, though Tania S. was her best friend inside the Academy. People thought that Tania G. was cheeting on her girlfriend, whom she declared being madly in love with. The girlfriend was asked about this during the show, and she said that she was sure they were only good friends. Maybe Tania S harbors some feelings for her friend (though she keeps telling she loves guys), but I don't think Tania G. is in love with her.

Tania G. was eliminated, but she was one of the favorites. Not a very good singer, but one of the most popular idols for her friendliness and charm (not only wih Tania S. !!!) She has helped a lot in the visibility issue. Ironically, we are protected by our law in everyway (we can marry and adopt children, nobody can fire you because of your sexual orientation, and so on), we are present in the media, but socially gays are not visible yet, only in great cities, and not always. Specially gay women. But it is changing day by day. The media are helping a lot.

Pepasexual.

That word pretty much made my morning. Thank you Betty. Silvia is definitely pepasexual, and she needs to own it.

And it looks like Pepa and Silvia are already utilizing countertops. Nice. Crazy chemistry between these two.

The look on Pepa's face after they get caught is priceless.

Yesterday I tried to shorthand the new episode (and I don’t know any shorthand!!). My girlfriend was laughing by my side. Here is the result, Nordie’s style (hope it helps, girls): 

Pepa and Sylvia are having breakfast with Paco and Don Lorenzo. Both have a big smile on their faces. Silvia is thinking that for Pepa it is only a fling, that Pepa doesn’t do relationships. Pepa is thinking that for Sylvia it is just a way of experimenting. Don Lorenzo is thinking that he is going squeeze Pepa’s brains and make juice with it!! Silvia is leaving the house, and Pepa tries to accompany her. But Silvia hesitates, and she doesn’t at the end. Don Lorenzo and Paco are alone. Paco tries to talk, but Don Lorenzo wants to forget everything: for him, they were just helping each other to undress or something of the kind. 

At work, Pepa gives Silvia a portfolio. There is a message inside: I’m dying to kiss you. (Smoldering look of Pepa to Silvia).Later, while Silvia is analyzing some samples at the laboratory, Pepa comes to see her. Smoldering look again. They start flirting -S.: what does this mean to you? a) an affair (un rollo) b) a fling with your boss (un escarceo amoroso con tu superior)-P.: and to you? a) it’s just a let’s-try (un “por- probar”) b) an exotic adventure (una aventura exótica)  They kiss passionately. They start making out on the table. José Luis, an absent minded partner (“povedilla” for everybody), kind of a weirdo or a nerd (there are lots of them in this dramedy), that almost killed Silvia before in an accident with his gun, finds them making out; he trips and he gets injured. They try to help him. While Sylvia is healing him (Pepa has already left), she tries to explain everything.  

-S: we were kissing

-JL:   laboral warmth/affection (cariño) is good

-S:  it wasn’t a kiss from warmth. I just implore you one thing: keep the secret, at least for some time.

-JL: of course, Inspector 

Pepa gets in when he leaves. 

-Have you tortured him or did you buy his silence?

-I begged him to be discreet, until we make up our minds (hasta que tengamos las ideas claras= until our ideas are clear, literally) ( And she starts closing the window’s blind).

-For you making up your mind is closing the blinds?

-You are a crackpot (una bala perdida; literally a stray bullet), and I’m heterosexual. So it is better if we are discreet until we make up our minds.

-Talk about you, I’ve already made up my mind: If I kiss you three more times, I’m going to fall madly in love with you ( voy a enamorarme de ti como una perra-literally, like a female dog. In Spanish, it’s a very passionate way of saying it) (smoldering look). So when you make up your mind, come and get me. You know where to find me. 

Silvia is really confused. She needs to speak to JL: when she sees Pepa, she only thinks about kissing her. But she needs to close the blinds, so that means she is afraid. But she likes her a lot. The way she looks at her, the way she kisses, the way she puts her hand inside her shirt…She gaves her goose bumps. “Until yesterday…” -

JL: I can only say that you must follow your heart (debes seguir los dictámenes de tu corazón- a cheesy way of saying it)

-S: I’ve always done that, and it only gave me pain (me ha ido fatal)

Don Lorenzo sees that Silvia is kissing JL on the cheak. Astonished, he asks him. JL tells him that she was only trying to clear out her doubts. Don Lorenzo says that JL has become Silvia’s racquet-ball/squash/pelota for matters of the heart (frontón sentimental) (too much for my English skills!!). He begs for his help; he needs him to wear an ear-bud so he can direct JL while he speaks to Silvia; that way, he will follow the right line.  

Silvia and JL are at a Café Bar. He is really nervous (feeling like a spy, with his ear-bud and Don Lorenzo directing him). He is talking nonsense. Don Lorenzo wants him to tell Silvia that she is rushing. But JL changes his mind. He tells Silvia that he ratifies what he said before. That she must throw herself into it (Don Lorenzo shouts). Silvia asks him if he’s sure that what Silvia feels is not a whim (DL- tell her it is!!). He replies that he thinks it’s not, that he has seen the way they look at each other. (DL keeps on shouting). 

While Silvia goes to the Toilet, JL tells DL that he thinks that the problem is that DL can’t stand the idea of his daughter kissing another woman, that he has a homophobic discourse, even against our Constitution!! (remember this is a dramedy, I laughed with his way of saying this). DL says that he will be laid of with no salary for some time.  

Silvia comes back. She tells JL that her first kiss was the day Pepa kissed her. That she thinks she hasn’t been able to forget that kiss; from that day on, she has been shooting the wrong target. That’s why she has always been unhappy. That she likes Pepa a lot. She is what Silvia has always been looking for. She likes the way her hair smells, how she cuddles her. When she’s with her she’s sure that’s where she wants to be. But fear is restraining her. JL says that he knows a lot about fears, that fear is what keeps you apart from happiness. If that is what makes Silvia happy, she must pursue it, be where she wants to be, without fear (DL seems to resign himself).