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VP CandidatesNow that the nominations are virtually locked up, who do you think McCain and Obama will and should chose as nominees. I don't have much of an opinion for McCain, I just hope he picks someone who doesn't want to destroy our rights and the rights of all women. As for Obama, I would like to see him pick Rendell or Richardson. I think a governor is a much better choice than a senator, since the majority lead in the senate is slim. Rendell would help with the Jewish vote and surely deliver PA, which shouldn't be a problem anyway and Richardson helps with hispanic voters as well as his foreign policy experience. I hope just he doesn't choose Hillary. My idea for Hillary is a seat on the supreme court. She'd do well there and would be an advocate for all of us. Submitted by The Emperor Has... (826 posts) on May 15, 2008 - 8:28am. |
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hmmmm
there are the ideal people i'd like, i mean i'm a massive dennis kucinich supporter but that's never gonna happen! i think a senator is just as good for a VP as a governer!
senator Dodd isn't too bad, plus he wants to legalize weed! no harm there!
and Richardsonn isn't too bad either!
on the republican side it was rumoured that mcain would choose huckabee as his vice.
well all i can say is whatever God you pray to had better be around if he gets elected! he's an awful man and him as vice president would be even worse for the US!
Huckabee is frightening. He
Huckabee is frightening. He seems like a nice enough guy but jeez, he doesn't even believe in science and he wants to change the constitution to be more in line with his version of the 10 commandments.
I'm with you about Kucinich and I like Gravel too.
hmmmm
I could see McCain tapping
I could see McCain tapping Lieberman too,except I don't know how the "religious wrong" would feel about that. Has Wes Clarke done anything besides run for president and be a general?
Thoughts
Lieberman says that he doesn't want VP. Of course, no one says they want to be VP until they actually are offered VP, so you can take that with a grain of salt.
I feel bad saying that Wes Clark hasn't "done anything besides run for president and be a general," but I guess there's nothing factually inaccurate about that statement. It does minimize his accomplishments, though...I mean, he was the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. He's probably one of Party's most brilliant foreign/military policy minds and has written two really great books on wars in the modern area (if only the Bush team would read them). Plus, he still holds the #1 spot for my favorite presidential campaign ad of all time.
Wes Clark's big problem is that he sucks on the national stage. He's just not a good debater or campaigner.
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Geoffrey: You fool! As if it matters how a man falls down.
Richard: When the fall is all that is left, it matters a great deal.
- The Lion in Winter
VP
Wesley Clark is just about my ideal candidate and I wish he had lasted longer in the 2004 campaign. I won't go into all of the reasons, but if you'd like to know where he stands, you can find a bullet list of his political stance here. The main issue I disagree with him on is immigration.
I agree that he is not a great speaker, but he has the military experience and level-headedness which I would trust if he were in a position of power. I truly feel the balance in Congress was due to his support of Webb in Virginia with WesPac and I was happy to support them both in that endeavor.
I will have a very, very hard time voting for a Democratic candidate who chooses either Joe Lieberman or Bill Richardson for their Vice President. I do not like either of them at all.
Lieberman is a snake who sacrificed his own party just to represent his own voice and warmongering. I do not agree with him on Iraq or the Middle East. Any Democrat who would choose him as VP is only attempting to cater to Republicans who support the war in Iraq.
Richardson -- While I acknowledge he is for civil unions, he believes homosexuality is a choice. That's dangerous. I also wholeheartedly disagree with his leniency towards illegal immigration. I do not want someone in a position of national power who approves of giving driver's licenses and scholarships to illegal immigrants.
I think that if Hillary won the nomination she would choose Wesley Clark as her VP. At the least, he would be a part of her cabinet. As far as Obama is concerned, he will likely choose a female VP to reach out to Hillary Supporters. Kathleen Sebelius, the Governor of Kansas could be that woman.
I guess my comment about
just gotta remember
that the vice-president is known as the most 'annoying' position in the US government.
there's so little real power involved in it, often nominees just chose a certain person as their VP to get elected, eg a more moderate republican would choose a more traditional republican to appeal to the republican base in the election.
the worrying thing about a vice-president is that the position often gives them a springboard to launch a presidential campaign in the future.
btw, if you haven't worked out i live in england, so although it's not the country where i live, i have citizenship and i feel strongly about the political situation there, and although i don't have to live with whatever decisions are made it's still important to me!
and back to VP. a female one would be good, but i don't think a lot of clinton supporters are gonna boycott obama just cos he beat clinton. i mean it's not like John Mcain is a femenist friendly guy.
lastly, i think a good militairy presence on the ticket is important if obama wants to win, although i dont' like the militairy presence personally, as one of his issues is lack of experience in matters of state and security, and although democrats never win on security issues it's important to give it a shot.
Backlash coming
i don't think a lot of clinton supporters are gonna boycott obama just cos he beat clinton
The damage has been done. There has been too much acrimony for many Hillary supporters to suddenly support Obama.
There are huge numbers of women that are disgusted and disappointed with the media and the Democratic party. We are organizing and planning to show our numbers have power. The good old boys threw Hillary under the bus, and now they're gonna have to live with the consequences.
btw, regardless of who you support, all women should feel pain at the blatant and constant sexism Hillary has faced during her campaign.
Consider this
I too was/am extremely irritated by the sexism directed at Hillary, but whom are you trying to teach a lesson? How will 4 more years of Bush policy and conservative judge appointments advance the rights of women? Obama, like him or not, is not the one who engaged in the sexist bashing. Punish the networks who did the bashing... don't watch. Boycott their networks. And VOTE for Obama. When it comes to policy, there is little difference between Obama and Clinton. There differences are in style. John McCain has reinvented himself as the PROUD, successor to carry on the work of GWB. We certainly can't afford that.
I'd still like to see Hillary as VP. Kathleen Sebilius, governor of Kansas, would be another good choice.
Showing our power
Who are we trying to teach a lesson? The male-dominated Democratic party, the good old boys network, and the corporate-owned media, that's who. If we let them get away with the blatant way they have discriminated against Hillary, what does that say about us?
Also, Obama is no innocent bystander when it comes to this campaign. He has done his fair share of standing aside while others have done the dirty work from which he benefitted. He has even said some things to contribute. However, I'm not going to go into that because I don't want to start a war here. That's not why I brought this up. I'm simply saying that many of us won't vote for Obama due to our own convictions.
Negative Coverage
Post-Mortem
The New Republic sent questionaires to Clinton staffers to try and pinpoint what went wrong--how the inevitable candidate was defeated. Though the staff failed to acknowledge Clinton's greatest liability (Iraq), the responses, as a whole, were pretty telling. On the subject of the media, a Clinton staffer wrote:
Another wrote:An interesting take on the news coverage, I thought. The whole article is worth a read.
Also, your co-worker's pretty dumb (no offense). If the Secret Service were going to abandon Hillary Clinton's protection, wouldn't they have done it by now? I mean, she's been under their protection for 16 years now.
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Geoffrey: You fool! As if it matters how a man falls down.
Richard: When the fall is all that is left, it matters a great deal.
- The Lion in Winter
Psychopractor, I think the
Psychopractor, I think the Democratic party has already become weak from this. I live in Florida too, and the way the party has abandoned our votes and Michigan's is going to come back and bite them.
When I voted in the primary, I got a little sticker that said "I MADE FREEDOM COUNT, I VOTED." I'm looking at it right now, and still feel so discouraged that my vote counted for shit.
My guesses... Sebilius or
My guesses... Sebilius or Webb for Obama, Lieberman for McCain, and if Hillarious Billary still had a shot, Clark
Clark is a great VP candidate but he is also a huge Hillarious supporter, so I don't think he'll be on an Obama ticket.
I like the idea of Sebillus because I like a woman on the ticket and I admire her governing in Kansas, but I think the idea of a Black/Woman ticket might turn way too many people off.
Jim Webb on the other hand is another awesome Obama choice: From the Daily Kos:
Webb and Clark
That's why he'd want him--an effort to unite the Party. There's a common belief (which I don't necessarily subscribe to) that the way Obama repairs the fracture in the Party is by picking a VP that supported Clinton in the primary.
Personally, I'd like to think that the fracture in the Party could be healed by remembering that 4,000+ people have died needlessly in an unjust war AND by recalling that Justice John Paul Stevens is 88 years old!
But that's just me...
If I had to pick right now, the top of my VP list for Obama would be:
The VP list for McCain (who I think, not who I'd like):
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Geoffrey: You fool! As if it matters how a man falls down.
Richard: When the fall is all that is left, it matters a great deal.
- The Lion in Winter
Hagel would be a bold move.
Hagel would be a bold move. How do you think the Dem party would feel about chosing a republican? I'm not against it, I just don't know how that would go over. Webb said yesterday he wasn't interested in the VEEP job, but most of the candidates say that. Bloomberg would be great, he's wildly popular, I don't think he wants to go to being 2nd in command. This is an exciting time for us.