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Advice:How to tell if she's gay?

I've been living in confusion for the past 3 years and i finally accepted my bisexuality towards the end of last year.the thing is i'm getting overly frustrated on how to make a move on girls because i think i have a faulty gaydar.i can't seem to tell if a girl is gay or not.it's really hard to do so.i've been exploring my sexuality further since i broke up with my boyriend 2 months ago and even with that,i can't seem to find anyone.at all.i've had previous girl crushes and all of them came and went because i didn't dare a make a move.it's getting really upsetting for me.anyhows,there's this girl in my writing class and she's hot and tomboyish at the same time.i really like her but the thing is i don't even dare look at her or talk to her.Gosh.please help.

jedigirl5's picture

intro-level gaydar

that sounds really frustrating. talking to girls can be really scary! i'd say just try to get to know her first. maybe ask her out for a cup of coffee after class sometime, or ask her how she likes the class or what she's studying. simple things like that can be really natural ways of breaking the ice with someone. just be yourself - i've found that's really key.

as far as the gaydar thing goes, that can be tricky. some people just have really good gaydar and other people don't. i've been out for 8 years and my gaydar only works some of the time (though it does work a lot better than when i first came out).

the things i usually pick up on are voice tone/quality (like if a girl's voice is a little warmer or fuller or deeper - kind of like jodie foster's voice), how a girl puts her hands in her pockets, just like posture and how she stands or walks, these are all kind of more masculine things i know, and i've missed out on some more fem girls using them, but they work.

the other thing i've started being able to do just this past year is use eye contact. like if you're at a coffee shop and there's a cute girl at the cash register and you have to make eye contact, just like hold the gaze for slightly longer than you normally would - i've found that if the girl's gay she'll hold the eye contact for a little longer too - it's this really quick but intense eye contact. it's really weird, but it almost feels like there's this energy or "fizzle" in the gaze. that might be more advanced gaydar though.

also i think that just trying to notice what you find attractive in women is good, as is just making friends and haning out with people in the community. for me it's a skill that's gradually developing, but it's definitely learnable.

hope that helps! good luck!

sundancer's picture

Eye Contact Gaydar

jedigirl5 wrote:
the other thing i've started being able to do just this past year is use eye contact. like if you're at a coffee shop and there's a cute girl at the cash register and you have to make eye contact, just like hold the gaze for slightly longer than you normally would - i've found that if the girl's gay she'll hold the eye contact for a little longer too - it's this really quick but intense eye contact. it's really weird, but it almost feels like there's this energy or "fizzle" in the gaze. that might be more advanced gaydar though.

I have to agree with this one, although I don't have advanced gaydar. It's more like broken gaydar. But anyhow, I was at a cafe and one of the Waitresses looked like a total dyke - short hair, piercings, the works. Looks wise, those generally aren't my type. Anyway, she served us our coffees and she went away. I was thinking, "she's so gay".

She came back to us, looked at me and asked if we were done. I told her I was finished with my drink. She picked up my friend's cup, looked at my friend, looked at me again and once more asked if I was finished with my drink. I replied yes again. But this time, after I replied I noticed this fizzle or energy to the gaze. It was really weird, long and intense, as if she were trying to figure out whether we were gay or just friends because we were sitting on the bench together instead of sitting opposite each other.

Amanda's picture

The eye contact does have one flaw

The flaw to this is when dealing with people like me, I'm horrible about keeping eye contact with anyone, even my family and any past romantic interests/relationships.  I suppose if nothing else, if the eyes can't be used, the rest of the body language can, for example: I always fidge more and seem to perk up when I'm talking with a girl I think is really cute/ interesting/ etc.  Each person may have different indications, but for those who are good at reading body language, it's there. 

 

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agyness's picture

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Mal's picture

Stating the Obvious

First of all, must point out... I AM NO EXPERT... but here are my 2 cents 

Get to know her, and then... ask her! I think thats the simplest way.

If your afraid, just casually ask her about her stance on things like gay marriage, feminism... does she watch The L Word? So on and so on. Through questions in normal discussion u can figure things out, and still not reveal the truth about urself (if u wanna hide it) cuz plenty of straight girls watch The L Word, are worried about queer politics or the feminist agenda. And u dont necessarily have to tell her ur opinions anyway, if she says something like "Gay marriage is an abomination" U can just be like "hmm ok, i dont really have an opinion on it, hey hey, imma republican too" LOL

I know it can be difficult to talk to someone u don't know (or worse- someone ur crushing on), but ur gonna have to if u wanna ever pursue it. I think u can figure out someones sexual orientation way better through their words and opinions rather than their outer appearance. And in the end, if u hit on her, and she's straight, plenty of straight girls would be cool with that, and if she's not, then who cares!

GOOD LUCK! 

Libertine's picture

Hmmm

"If your afraid, just casually ask her about her stance on things like gay marriage, feminism... plenty of straight girls watch The L Word, are worried about queer politics or the feminist agenda." 

"I think u can figure out someones sexual orientation way better through their words and opinions rather than their outer appearance."

Hmmm, those two points sound contradictory to me. 

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Ashley's picture

its ok

I dont have gaydar either.
Ash's picture

Gaydar?

I think 85% of the lesbian population either does not have gaydar or it broke and we can't get it fixed 'cause the warranty expired.

 

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SecretSmile's picture

Same exact situation

there is this girl i like who i am constantly reading between the lines with. IT'S SO FRUSTRATING!! to top it off, i CAN'T be myself around her. I either turn into a quiet personality-less corpse, or a bumbling idiot. It's impossible to make eye contact with her aswell and if so it's only for a second and then i look away quickly thinking that i stared too long and gave myself away. I hate all of these games we play as humans! why can't we just get past this awkwardness?

i've had my fair share of sexually ambiguous-girl crushes, so this year i'm going to take matters into my own hands.

 

"Even in his heart the devil has to know the water level."

Hank's picture

is she T3h Gay?

I had a major massive stupid crush on this girl for like, 3 years. I used to see her around, then suddenlyi never saw her again. Then like, 3 years later she pops up and i see her all the time. She had a masculine swagger and wore straight-legged jeans and t-shirts ALL the time. One time i was walkin to class and (on a campus where no one speaks, and she was known to be really introverted and kinda bitchy) she looked at me for an inappropriately long amount of time, smiled and said 'hey.' So i said 'hey' back. (while queefing from excitement) so kicked myself and turned around and said 'hey.' she came back. 'um. you're really pretty.' i kicked myself for that one too cuz it was so lame. she said thanks but i was too busy trying to run away to notice her facial expression. So i totally figured she was gay because then i kept seein her and she'd wave and shit. So then one day i decided to ask her if she wanted to hang out, except i sounded like a complete creep so she said no. Then like, a year later through a series of events she ends up playing flag football with me and my gay friends and acts a total donkey about the gay people saying we set her up and shit.

Now she's pregnant lol. So maybe she wasn't gay. (I still think she's gay despite that lol)

Moral of the story: Just because she's tomboy doesn't mean she's gay; however, it's a very strong possibility she is,and you might be the one to bring it outta her. G'Luck!

 

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victory1116's picture

complicated

i dont think you really have to worry about the gaydar thing cuz i know alot of gay friends who dont have it.... im not even really good at sayin if someones gay or not but i agree with everyone els about just gettin to know her and see what happens i was in the same situation there was this girl i really liked and one of my friends told me she was bi but my friend did that to everyone to make them feel dumb when u asked them out n they said no...so i wasnt counting on that but i jut got to know her we talked everyday on the phone i walked her to classes and one day i just told her i really liked her and she kinda smiled but i still wasnt sure if it was cuz she liked me or it was just a kinda UMM OK thing lol

but turns out she was bi and we ended up dating for 8 months and still we arent together but good friends the point is your never gunna know unless you go for it and even if ur let down u dont have to worry about wondering wat could have happend. so jut get to know her and gradually work ur way up till you feel comfortable enough to ask her who knows you could be surprised....... good luck

VICKY

HiddenSmileP 's picture

Thats Exactly Like me..Feel

Thats Exactly Like me..Feel Me..i be crushin on girls i associate with them but they just come and go because i find out thru a grapevine or ..like something they would say that prooves theyre not like that. .but this girl im feelin idk i was neww to my school and i wear like skinny jeans and tees all day thats mah swagg. so i guess she was feelin it or whatever..but she be lickin her lips at me..and laughin at all my jokes.she wanted to be my partner in class..like she wouln let me pick nobody else..she asked for my aim.. texin me rite now.. but i mean she go wit a dude..im there for her already and ive only nown her for like a week or 2..its crazy tho..cuz i be fallin so quickk.but i always end up gettin signs or reactions tht theyre not gay...nd all the ones i find out that are gay!?... are uglyy as hell lol ...Hand Out To You I feel all yall ...I Need helpp ... literally .lol
EmmaB's picture

Agreed on the eye contact

Eye contact is the major way of being able to tell if someone likes you, gay/bi girls have a 'gay look', and i dont mean their appearance or the way they dress, i mean the way they look at you. Once youve caught her eye so hi, have a chat, see what happens. If theres chemistry you'll probably feel it right away.

Although yeah straight girls can be misleading...my first two girl experiences were with straight girls, one was a good friend, one was a friend of a friend, and with both of them we'd go out clubbing, theyd both totally stare at me really intensely which would make me all giggly lol, then try and dance with me, hold my hand etc. but it would only ever go as far as kissing, theyd get too freaked out to do anything more. Both pretty much straight unfortunately. So yeah, going out clubbing is always a good move if its your kinda thing! I know not everyone likes the scene, but gay clubs are a good place to start if you're exploring your sexuality. Then a faulty gaydar isnt as much of an issue.

 

carmbridge's picture

Here's how I can tell if

Here's how I can tell if someone is gay.  If I'm attracted to her, she's straight.  Been right on target so far.  *sigh*

 I think we need to adopt a saying, a secret code like Charlie's Angels

"How's the weather today?"

If they are straight, they answer normally, but if they are gay, they respond with something like ' Good day to eat pink cookies' (or whatever)

 See?  Totally solves the problem!

All right everyone, go spread the message!  :-)

it_means_joy's picture

LOL

same here, unfortunately....

but that has got to be one of the best ideas ever. count me in ;)

Viva's picture

A good day for pink cookies indeed

Digg it!! lol 

 

 

 

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Dolores Hot Tamales's picture

LOL

That should be in some sort of gay manual somewhere. can't imagine that sort of question being asked in a tropical country, though, since the weather is just not really a topic.

"Do you have the time?"

"No, but I have a nailcutter"

 

all these q&a strategies are certainly a lot better than this purple bracelet I'm wearing...

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Jenille's picture

HAHA!

Haha i would totally try that one :P!

DemonLover16's picture

Hell yes!

The next time someone asks, who I am unsure of... that is my answer lmaoooo -high five-

 

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Marceeahh's picture

LOL!!

My gay friend told me recently that a good way to subtly ask is "does she speak french?"

 Then you can answer.. oh she's totally fluent in french, or... she's learning her first words, but is shy to speak in public still, or are you kidding me? that girl teaches french seminars! 

 

I like the pink cookies though! 

Ariana's picture

hha

I really doubt my gaydar...and now that i realize it..i have tons of friends who watch The L word...ha! i knew it heheh

 

Eye contact does it for me:] 

Dolores Hot Tamales's picture

wow

I am sooo bad with signs like that. The eyes are windows to the soul, and I can't even read them. Such a shame for a person raised in the middle east :p

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Paperback-Writer's picture

I don't know. High school

I don't know. High school is SOOOOO much harder than regular life (when it comes to meeting girls), because half the girls that are gay either hide it or don't even know it yet.

 

I have French class with two girls who are friends. One is pretty damn hot (hey, i'm not going to lie.). The other one...eh.

The "eh" one I can almost guarantee is gay. I just know it. She dresses feminine, but there is that something. Plus the straight one flirts with the other one in that straight-girl-touchy-feely way that the other girl get uncomfortable and agrees with whatever the straight-girl asks for.

Those straight girls.

I wish I had better gaydar too.

There's a girl in English class that sits right in front of me that I have a total crush on. And she seems just the teeniest bit gay. Ha, I also found out she sees my therapist on the same day as me (one hour before me, so yes, that does mean ducking in my car while she steps out of the office).

If only I knew....

Red08 's picture

one time at the park...

I like to walk at this park in the city once and a while. Sometimes I walk opposite the crowd. I do this to see the people faces and to make eye contact as well. OK, so one day as I was walking a cute girl coming at me pass by smiling at me. Her smile melted me. There on every time she passed me she smiled. Yes, I got excited. On my last lap she was waiting for me. She stops me, we started to talk and It turns out that she knew me from years past her family and mine were friends but with time we stop seeing them. She is younger  then me. And now she is all grow up. So we talked about our families who's doing what this days. Both our fathers cheated on our mothers. I then say" that's why I don't date men" she then says " it's the same with women"( In my head I was jumping for joy). I then ask her "so ur queer" out loud in my excitement ( I kicked My a** for asking her in that way) she says " I am BI" :) (In my head I hear  the song"Take a Chance on me" by Abba.) I tell that am gay. You all might think that I sealed the deal  but I was so flustered that I forget to give her my number. I haven't seen her at the park lately hopefully I will soon. I can't gat her out of my head. So my advice to everyone is ask her out , give her ur # even if u are't sure if shes gay. Go for it cause u might kiss that opportunity good bye. Or if u take my advice u might be kissing HER. Good Luck! But wait if u do ask her out invite her over to see a movie at ur place I recommend u rent "RENT the movie". It has every thing from Gay men, lesbians, gay marriage and Aids but its all about Love. Then start the conversation about it and then tell her about urself. If it turns out shes not gay at least she saw a great movie and will have an opened mind.

 

To that person, 

If ur reading this story and sounds familiar  contact me here.

Em's picture

I'm throwing mine out the window

I hate mine. The ONE TIME I really trusted it, it let me down. Big time.

Stupid girl is too attractive for her own good. Keep me away from her!!!

Empyre_ Junkie's picture

True That

There is this girl at a music store. I stopped in because I needed gutair picks, and there she was. She is so gorgeous. Dark eyes and dark hair. Amazing smile. She said she really loves me hoodie and it's really cute. I gave her an awkward smile and said thank you. Except not that cool. The next day I walked by and she complimented my hoodie and said she was jealous. I don't know what to do, but I dont know if she is slightly bent or not. I don't know what to do...
Callyph's picture

If it won't melt your brain,

If it won't melt your brain, you should introduce yourself (get her name!),  and then you can tell her where you got your hoodie, and see if a conversation spontaneously occurs. Could be good, =D. I mean, she works at a music store, even if it's she not into girls, she could be cool.
Colette's picture

slightly bent!

ahahahaha...that made my night
Callyph's picture

"Fluttering"/Repeated Eye Contact

I'm not as good with the straight-up (or not-so-straight?) eye contact mentioned earlier, but I've had at least two interesting instances where a sort of fluttering eye contact was totally pinging my untrained and sometimes screwed over gaydar. Both times it was with girls who I thought were cute, but wasn't smitten by, and one of them I totally received independent confirmation about.

Anyways, what happened was that we made eye contact as you do with any normal person who is being introduced to you or is close enough when you're walking around, then glanced away politely, and then we both looked back at each other at exactly the same time.

This can be accompanied by that fizzle feeling described earlier, but it's a just another possible sign if you're vainly staring holes into a girl's head trying to figure out "was that a fizzle? or is the biting fall wind just making my eyes water?"

beth='s picture

same same

i don have gaydar either!! i think im in a similar situation as you..
aem's picture

Well...

I'm glad other people put faith in the "gay look" as well! I was worried it was just my wishful thinking. I have a pathetic crush on a girl who definitely gives off a gay vibe; I'm not out, like at all, but I don't think another girl has ever looked at me the way she does. As for "how do I know if she's gay," my only advice is that time will tell (I hope).

Best of luck!

twice_confounded's picture

I honnestly don't really

I honnestly don't really know if there is a "look" but I put a lot of faith in eyes and the messages that they can convey, so I would definitely just look and see what transpires!

As for gaydar, mine is...well lets just say I didn't get the manual. Mostly though, if I like someone then they are almost definitely straight.  Never liked someone who would reciprocate.  Not that I ever found out (gee, I love this closet!) I just based my info on things they said...another very good way to learn about someone!! Try starting a conversation, although not always easy, its a very good way to go!!

Bianca's picture

i know i know i feel the same!

I've been trying to figure out if girls were gay for such a long time. if a girl is nice to me or makes eye contact, I automatically think she's gay. My gaydar is so skewed. I think we just need to take it slow and let it come to us even though i've been waiting for four years =(
Fembot's picture

Cambridge said "I think we

Cambridge said
"I think we need to adopt a saying, a secret code like Charlie's Angels
"How's the weather today?"

If they are straight, they answer normally, but if they are gay, they respond with something like ' Good day to eat pink cookies' (or whatever)

 See?  Totally solves the problem!

All right everyone, go spread the message!  :-)"

LOL!

That's awesome!  I'm going to spread the word. Pink cookies it is!

But... what if both people are outside at the time of inquiry?  Might be a little odd.  :)

sno11girl's picture

if your outside...

Delores Hot Tamales wrote;

"Do you have the time?"

"No but I have a nailcutter."

..that'll work...

Jackie's picture

This is usually how I

This is usually how I approach it. It's along the same lines that many of the other girls have already mentioned.

I see girls DAILY that I am attracted to. So how do I approach these girls? Well, if I keep seeing or crossing paths with the same girls, I try to definitely get them to notice me. Whether it's me just "accidently" bumping into them, or asking them a question to break the ice. Breaking the ice can take time too. For example, there's this girl I was attracted to from the moment I saw her. Each time I saw her I would smile and say hi to her. She would do the same back. And I noticed she was in one of my classes. I saw an empty seat next to her, and I took the opportunity to sit next to her. She had recognized me from seeing me so much that she actually a little curious about me. We ended up chatting a lot, and I worked my charming skills ha ha. I could have swore she might be into girls, by that "look" in her eyes, but I found out, she has a boyfriend thanks to Facebook. ha ha. That's another great tool.

Other girls, I see in my class, I just try to find ways to start a conversation with them. And then I ask them if they'd like to hang out. And then I see from there how things go;] Some I end up hooking up with, and others just end up being good friends.

My point is, take the risk to flirt with another girl. What's the worst that can happen? There are TONS of girls out there, and if they aren't necessarily into girls that's okay. There are plenty of girls that are! And there are plenty of girls out there that are waiting, and wanting to experiment with other girls. Ha thank you Katy Perry for making girl on girl action A OK.

Good luck, and go for it. Talk to the girl already! 

CarZ's picture

Frustrating

I can understand your frustration as I'm going through the same thing.

I've had a crush on a girl at work for a few months now and have no idea if she's gay, bi or straight.  I'm bi but not out and have only recently come to accept my bisexuality.  Only my gay friends know I'm bi and know about my crush on her.

We've become friends at work but I'm still trying to get her out of the office so I can get a feel for which side she plays on.  I also want to be able to tell her that I'm bi and I can't do that in the office. We've talked about one of my friends coming out and losing all her friends and she said it was unfortunate that people had to be so closed-minded so she appears to not have an issue with gays. 

I can't help but feel like we're both playing the same game in trying to figure out if each other is gay or not.  She gets very jealous when other girls in the office talk to me, especially one in particular.  So I feel like I should tell her about myself and that I'm not out but feel like she should know as my friend.  Perhaps that will green light her into telling me where she stands.  Even if I get a great friend out of the deal instead of a relationship I'm totally fine with that.  I'll just have to drool over her in a corner. ;)

Colette's picture

the idea of this sounds

the idea of this sounds good...but even if i really like the person...if they hold eye contact with me...ill look down and turn red and stutter...and prob drop their coffee or trip...oh my god...its so embarressing
meandering.sprig's picture

Is someone on the prowl or am I delirious?

There's a woman at work that is either being really super sweet to me, or is trying to figure out my leanings for one purpose or the other.

The moment I think one thing or the other, her behaviour seems to change.  I don't want to pursue anything even if there were something to pursue.  But, my curiosity is killing me. 

I could swear she's cat and mouse flirting with me, but seeing as it's work- I don't want to assume anything.

I generally like my bubble of personal space and tend to give off that message.  But, this woman has brushed up against me, tries making eye-contact like crazy, and there's this lingering that I don't engage in but that's there, among other things.  Today she winked at me.

She has a boyfriend, which obviously obscures how I'm interpreting things.  But, that doesn't necessarily mean everything in the equation.   

Maybe i'm autistic or something... but I think she may like the gays... what do you think? (because I'm sure as hell not going to ask!)

 

    

Kat's picture

The Eye Stares

I am horrible with eye stares and conveying messages to people through them. I end up just having people asking me "Do I have something on my face?" or "Why are you looking at me like that, you have that idiotic look on your face, knock it off."

If people ever try giving me 'the stare' I blush horribly (my face turns red at the slightest bit of attention even when it's not sexual. My english professor seems to notice this and is always calling me out in class, damn him!). If I'm around someone I like, my mind goes completely blank and I end up stammering out some random thing that popped into my head. It's even more embarrassing because I mumble when I get nervous and people are always asking me to repeat the stupid things that I said. But my tomato face is what keeps me from making any moves as blood automatically rushes to my face when someone I don't know too well talks to me or even looks at me. I've heard smiling helps make the 'blush' go away, but then I feel like a jackass because then I'm not just a tomato, I'm a freakish looking one with a fanatical smile plastered on my tomato-y self.

meandering.sprig's picture

MTCW:

There must be enough keeners to absorb this English professor's need for class participation, no?  I've always been a fan of losing my class participation marks.  But, your English professor probably thinks he's doing you a favor- meanwhile, you're mortified.  oh, zealous professors... will they ever learn... ?

I advise you to never look a professor square in the eyes or sit in the first three to five rows (depending on lecture hall size).  :D

As for the blanking and blushing when you're around someone you like, have you ever tried to joke about the blushing? What about asking the girl a question (prepare something for such a situation if you have to)- that way you don't have to do much initial talking :)  Turn the table, get to know her some, and perhaps short-circuit a little bit of the nervousness at the same time? 

Sure, you may still blush- but, when it comes down to it, anyone who is worth your time will think it's endearing, hottie and friend alike.

 

Kat's picture

That's the thing, I sit in

That's the thing, I sit in the very back of the classroom and I don't make eye contect with anyone unless it's absolutely necessary because I always feel awkward when I make eye contact. Also I don't have one of those cute blushes, I have the full on redness (even my ears turn red) when someone starts talking to me. I've had several people ask me if I need to sit down or if I'm about to have a heart attack. It takes a long while for the blush to away. But I'll consider what you said about preparing some questions so I don't look completely out of it. Thanks.
kimi's picture

When a girl is Gay, it shows =)

from the way she talks,

the things she enjoys doing,

topic that arouses her interest..

trust me, it really shows =)

Bethany's picture

I wish I knew how to tell,

I wish I knew how to tell, too. The lesbians I knew at my high school were fairly obvious because they acted kind of masculine, but I know that the stereotype isn't always right. There were a couple girls I was interested in when I started college who seemed to be kind of gay, but their Facebooks don't say they are, and the one girl who is basically a butch soccer player has a boyfriend. I liked talking to them, but I still hid my interest and always felt nervous around them. I wish there were more reliable ways to know, 'cause I'm way too awkward to ask someone, and I'm just starting to figure out body language. 
nyccristina's picture

do your homework

god knows ive experienced all the situations that you have all mentioned here. what ive learned is that you must do your homework and keep on moving. let me explain:

if you like the girl, you have to talk to her. do your homework. find out what she likes, what is she into? those are great conversation starters. what matters most is that you cant just sit and wait for something to happen. you have to initiate if she doesnt or nothing will happen. sometimes a simple hello can do the trick. dont think about the whole gay thing. think of it as you trying to get to know someone better. its acting - its all performance. be confident, if you dont have it - fake it and eventually you will get it. 

i agree that asking her feelings on gay issues is a great way to find out where she stands, but considering that you havent had small talk yet, im guessing this is far down the road. and even then you cant really tell. same thing with the whole facebook / myspace thing. i still say im straight on that thing and we all know thats not true. ive also put that i have a boyfriend which was true at the time, but ive also had girlfriends. so you cant really rely or depend on those things 100%. even if she has a boyfriend, that shouldnt stop you from trying to get to know her better. 

im still working on the whole eye contact thing. i havent quite mastered it cause im just not perceptive when it comes to body language. its a work in progress.

all in all my advice to you is..you have to talk to her, get to know her better. ive gone out with girls who identified themselves as "straight" so dont worry about it.

do your homework, talk to her and charm your way into her heart.

good luck.

pinxter's picture

nyccristina

I have a feelin that youre from philippines too.

LOL just wanna share this thing.

There was a girl that I'm interested in (lets name her Cris), but I'm hesitant  to do my move, I like Cris but shes the kind of a person who doesnt play my game though I know that it's possible for her to be my girl 'cause she give a hint that makes me feel that she has thesame attraction with me, but because I know that Im not that good for her I shifted my attention to others ( to Violeta), to a girl that I know that loves the game that I play, the experimenting things wherein in we wont take things seriously.

And damn just this afternoon the three of us (me, cris and Violeta) is trap in a class room.

One of my way on getting girls close to me is by my skills. I draw, I started asking my friends if they want to have a fake tattoo drawn in their hands or everywhere they like and as a start of my plan  they said yes, and as expected other girls ask me to do thesame thing with them, I tattoed almost half of the girls in the class, and as what I wanted the girl that's my target(violeta) asked me to make her a tattoo, also in the hand (LOL, see ive got the chance to hold her hands).

I ask her if we can do it in an empty class room (another move) and she said yes, my plan is to ask her things, her interest and stuffs, while making the fake tattoo in her hand (that I'mactually holding) and unexpectedly, an unexpected guest came its (cris), who ask me to darken up the tattoo that Ive made for her a while ago .

So the the thing that happen is...

I was asking Violeta bout her interest and stuffs, and when I share mine though Violeta is not asking for it, Cris is the one saying that "so Pinx you really like this and that", and I was like OK. So wheres my plan anyway. LOL its totally ruined, Im trap with the girl that I like(Cris) and with the girl that I shifted my attraction with (Violeta).

Arajntos's picture

I wonder...

ok first of all, i'm totally new to all of this, so here it goes.  i am kinda in the same situation as the first post...there's this girl i have in mind. we go to the same school but not the same class or grade. so we don't have any of the same classes.
 i have never spoken to her face to face before either so i was wondering how i should approach? And i'm having a really hard time figuring out wich team she ''plays'' for because she dresses and after what i've seen, acts like a normal girl.
will be very grateful for any response - thx :)
PS: yeah this might've been the wrong place to post a question like this, but as it says i'm new to all of this.
Whodathunk's picture

I know what you mean

Hm.. I'm guessing you're in high school, which is unfortunate since that means you have really little control over your classes/schedule. But anyway, I digress. I've been in that situation before. There was a girl in my first year english class that I was completely smitten with, but the problem was 1) I'd never talked to her in my life 2) she sat infront of me 3) I already sat with a friend of mine, and y'know, there was no easy way to make a smooth and inconspicuous introduction, but I decided that I liked her enough to risk making an ass of myself. So I did. I asked her a school related question on the first day, then on the second day I sat next to her and had a normal conversation. And then I promptly ignored her thereafter and until years later where we ended up having way more classes together. I always wondered if she remembered me, but I brushed it off thinking no because we exchanged so few words, but let me tell you: bad first impressions last a lifetime. Ha ha. But she did remember me and was still friendly and thus we started talking regularly and eventually we got to know each other better.

I can't offer you much advice as to how to tell if she's gay or not, after all, when you like someone you'll be looking for  clues left, right and center.. and you'll probably end up some big assumptions. As for getting to know her though: if she's involved in any extra curricular activities, join whatever she's in and strike up a conversation, or get to know her friends -- this one is a more indirect approach, but you usually get to know people through someone else, right? Or, put yourself in a position where you will be noticed by her and other people, and make sure you impress - establish a reputation that you're just outgoing/friendly/confident or whatever. Or you could also find out what her interests are, or what's important to her, get into it and rock it. If she's into school then become a smartie/bookworm, if she's into sports, start investing your time at the gym, etc. This way you'll have something to talk about AND, she might've already noticed you and would want to talk to you. Anywho, these are just thoughts, but I only advise against making a random introduction in the hallway... because, how will you ever make a second conversation after that?

 

Arajntos's picture

yess, thx alot for a

yess, thx alot for a response! you're actually helping me more than you probably know yourself :) ''bad first impressions last a lifetime'' i think we all can relate to something like that. where the only thing you are being remembered for is ''oh you're that girl that did that and that'' or something!
Anyways! i have managed to figure out what she's into and like. i have also recently started talking to one of her closest friends ( was not planned really...just turned out that way ) and the problem from there is basically not giving myself away. so i feel very restriced on how much i can ask and/or talk about that girl to her friend without her getting ( this friend that is.) suspicious.  suppose i'll just have to take a chance, do some serious reading in the stuff she likes, and get to know her!
Again thx alot for ideas and thoughts! :D
iluvpie's picture

how to tell if shes gay

if she makes extended eye contact with you, if she's touchy, if she walks like a man, burps, spits, has a manly job like i dunno, auto mechanics. if she has alot of guy friends, if she drives a truck, ok now im just stereotyping. oh yeah and see if she likes the l word or janis joplin or something