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Coming from the romE and jULiet thread (from manila).. bTw...media?

Well, this will serve as a very informative and interesting eye-opener for me and I guess for everybody too. Western countries and others more are now getting more vigilant when it comes to responsible, sensible and positive LGBT media-ship and are getting results. I would just like to know how media is or has been in you place when it comes to presentation of the many facets of LGBT. Like here in the Philippines,I have watched that episode of MMK ( a local TV sitcom) that starred Beth Tamayo and Princess Punzalan? They played the role of being bestfriends and eventually fell for each other even if the latter has a husband. It was nice but my dad was watching a different show so might as well wait for it in the you tube. Anyway, the airing of this episode ( and a lot more other similar stories aired also by MMK  since 2000 as far as I can remember) showed a very significant, somewhat swift development  (cause still there are lots of lapses to be filled in.. sad..) in appreciating diversity and acceptance for LGBT people through sensible  media here in the Philippines. How about in your area? care to share?...=n_n=

leishahaha's picture

LGBT in PI

I'm going to ask a question that isn't really related to the topic but I've been wondering about this for a long time.

I'm Filipina-American and my mom says people are more accepting of gays there, but I wonder about how true that is? Is it because no one talks about it?

Mine's picture

That is a good que...

Well I'm not really that too knowledgeable on this but  it’s not that no one talks about it. There is just a small percentage, that  issues that concerns gay people are being raised and discussed freely (meaning with no any violent reaction etc.).  A reason for that could be, others think it is an abomination to the church, or some people are not open enough to handle such ideas and issues. But generally there are still a number of advocates that are working on this matter. In fact it is being talked about positively and negatively here that it creates a scene of gender vigilant VS. the false-integrity people. Now, accepting because, I for example rarely encounter people (that I eventually work with) having problems with me being a lesbian. They’re even asking my partner to join us in our gatherings and this is true ever since I started working.  Even my friends didn’t even say a thing but just shows genuinely that they are happy for us. My professors way back college that are married and are Christians are even suggesting cool places for us to hang out and they are one of our refuge when we are having trouble. We even have policemen who are gay.  I guess accepting also in the manner that gay people here are excelling in their chosen career. We have a lot of gay couturier and artists that are being respected and loved but doesn’t apply to lesbians actually. I rarely know a lesbian personality here in the Philippines ( I actually know just one) but all are just plain and living their simple, happy and rockin’ life. Also, one good thing I am seeing is that families here are now also starting to accept and love their children regardless of gender and/or being gay. But again as what I’ve mentioned there are still lapses that are to be filled in. There are still people who think everything about us is a crime. What we guys here holding on are the advocy of a lot of LGBT-  groups, love we are getting from our loved ones, friends and others that supports us, and of course not giving any damn thing on whoever is trying to steal away our life from us by fighting for our rights. There..:)
leishahaha's picture

thanks

Thanks for answering my question. I'm glad there are people around you who support you. Keep on living the rockin' life!
Mine's picture

No prob! :)

Yeah! we'll keep on rockin, take it from me.. (*wink*) ;)
oreocheesecake's picture

Yeah, you're right about the

Yeah, you're right about the Philippines being more open to the idea of a girl-girl relationship on the media. I distinctly recall watching this episode of one of those teleseryes. The one with the kids always falling down on their luck or whatever. I didn't really follow it. But there was this one time where I passed by the channel to catch an episode with Karel Marquez in it. That in itself is pretty much a big thing to me. But what was more of a shocker was that she was playing a lesbian/bi-sexual teen. The episode I was able to catch was one of her courting Erich Something (I can't remember basta she won in the star contest). And I was like "whoah!", is this for real? Too bad I wasn't able to catch the following episodes. They didn't end up together. Erich wasn't into her and her dad gave her a big scolding over it. Karel went overdose. bla bla. Oh btw, do you when Rome and Juliet will be out?
Mine's picture

hi tHere! =)

btw oreocheesecake, I've been trying to search the outskirts of Recto, Divi and where-ever I could feel its almost a reach away but I was always unsuccesful! harsh.. I could always give you a heads-up if I ever happen to finally grab one..please do the same.. please..please.. =)

realgirly's picture

2cents

Well, I think we're more tolerant in the sense that we don't have that 'gay people are going to hell' mentality and being a gay Catholic or Christian is not viewed as an inherent contradiction.

I don't think LGBT people are taken seriously yet though. Just look at what happened to "Ang Ladlad" when it ran for the party-list elections. And Danton Remoto, the founder of Ang Ladlad, the man with these credentials was deemed a nuisance candidate, while they let the likes of Richard Gomez and Cesar Montano (credentials: actors) run.

And in terms of visibility we are WAY behind. I remember reading about how MTRCB was angered after ABS aired the wedding of Desiree del Valle to another girl (and she is still considered straight *rolls eyes*).

But there has been progress, esp in indie films. But they are exceptions and getting cheap laughs by exploiting gay characters is still all too common.

My personal experience has been mixed but leaning towards the positive. I'm in the closet so my perspective is mostly from obsevation. My family has been very accepting of our gay relatives. In school, it was mostly positive as well. The most homophobia I've seen is now in med school but only in the form of cheap homophobic jokes which people only do behind someone's back (no direct harassment). And the good thing is, most of them are ok with gay people and stop and say sorry when you call them out. I guess the homophobic jokes just became 'in'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mine's picture

I agree..

I agree..haha..right! There is, a bit of "gay people go to hell" mentality nudging around. Good thing it is still manageable.lol! it is accepted but not that much...bUt somehow we are taking it one-step at a time but those are giant steps I can say. At least, sparks of hope are getting rekindled of which by far gets LGBT people going and going even if it gets tougher and tougher.

btw oreocheesecake, I've been trying to search the outskirts of Recto, Divi and where-ever I could feel its almost a reach away but I was always unsuccesful! harsh.. I could always give you a heads-up if I ever happen to finally grab one..please do the same.. please..please.. =)

ceiababes's picture

Hello ladies

Very interesting thread... :)

I've been in and out of the closet the past 14 years and I've to say that times are, indeed, a-changin'.

I've written a paper on it in high school back in '96, and barely year after, in college, my friend did a paper on it as well and there had been many changes already.

Interestingly, there are more positive exposure in the media (except for that TV show with Karel and ERich and the whole Desiree Del Valle brouhaha). The broadsheets and magazines have been discussing lesbianism more openly -- and more comfotably as well. More people are aware of The L Word, more people, especially college age lezzies, are coming out of the closet, and more people are open to the idea of bisexuality.

However, I'd have to say that there are still some resistance to lesbians/lesbianism in general. More people are tolerant of it but many are still struggling with acceptance.

I'm 28 but my family only acknowledged my being a lesbian the last 2 years. I can see their struggles with it (my dad calls my girlfriends just "friends") but at least I no longer have to lie about who I'm with and where I am.

The two lesbians bars that existed in the past couple ofyears have closed down but there are a number of party/event organizers who thrive in the exclusive party scene. Sadly, there is a division among lesbians in age and social background. Some observers say that upperclass to upper middle class (and sometimes even middle middle class) lesbians are less into the butch-femme stereotyping thus, making lesbian existence seem less prevalent -- when in truth, it's just harder to tell who's gay. As for age, some older older lesbians and some much younger lezzies (hmm, highschoolers?) may be more into the butch-femme role playing stereotype, making it easier to identify who's gay.

The upside here is that more people are aware of lesbians around them. More people are accepting it, albeit slowly.

Oh by the way, The L Word Season 1 was aired middle of 2007 in 2nd Avenue (what used to be a cable channel, now it's on UHF). Although the story made no sense with all the bleeps and cuts, it's a start. ;)

Mine's picture

omg..

I envy you..=) well not much but I do.. well its because I haven't  told yet my folks about my gay life! haha.. Quick que! how'd you do it? I mean, how was it coming out to your folks? darn.. I can't get the right term but it's not that I'm anxious or afraid, actually thinking att his moment about outing myself to my parents quite gives me excitement and rush. lol!  I'm just 21 but I would like to come into terms with everything about mylife this early, my gay-pride to start with. I'm already living a happy life being one, just outside our house though and I wanted it to extend up to the very space of my bed..=n_n=

haha.. I get it.. before I was into that notion about role playing but turned out didn't worked for me and my partner. There was this one time that my partner finally got the time to pick me up after work hours and that's the first time I was to introduce her to my colleagues. After the get to know part, one of my peeps thought that it was I who's the butch.haha... Only seeing my partner cleared out that I am not. But not really into role-play, I wanted my partner who she'd like to comfortably be, same with me I guess..

Yeah, but I think they already stopped airing it. I was no longer able to catch on the time slot I used to see it then. Don't know what happened..is it still being aired?


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