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Ward Churchill Fired!BOULDER – The University of Colorado Board of Regents voted to terminate controversial professor Ward Churchill on Tuesday evening. The Board of Regents passed a motion to accept the recommendation from CU President Hank Brown to fire Churchill from his position in the Ethnic Studies department. The measure passed with an 8 to 1 vote. The vote was made just after 5:30 p.m. and Cindy Carlisle was the dissenting vote. Immediately after the decision was announced people in the crowd booed and some swore at the board members. Churchill and his supporters then participated in a Native American ceremony outside of the building. "I am going nowhere," said Churchill. "This is not about break, this is not about bend, this is not about compromise." Also after the board made its decision, Brown and Board Chair Patricia Hayes spoke with the media. "(The other day) somebody asked me, 'What do you think the board is going to do?' And I didn't know," said Hayes. "I really didn't know where my fellow board members were coming from until we had the discussion today. This case was an example not of mistakes, but an effort to falsify history and fabricate history and in the final analysis, this individual did not express regret or apologize," said Brown. "This is a faculty that has an outstanding reputation and this move today protects that reputation. At the end of the day we had to look at what these three committees had presented to us and what 25 tenured faculty had said and that was really important to all the board members," said Hayes. Churchill touched off a firestorm in 2005 after an essay surfaced which he wrote shortly after 9/11 likening some victims in the World Trade Center to Adolf Eichmann, who helped carry out the Holocaust. University officials concluded he could not be fired for his comments because they were protected by the First Amendment, but they launched an investigation into allegations that he fabricated or falsified his research and plagiarized the work of others. In 2006, a university committee found Churchill guilty of academic misconduct, including plagiarism and a faculty panel recommended he be demoted and suspended for a year without pay. In May, CU President Hank Brown recommended Churchill be fired. Both Brown and Hayes said on Tuesday the board's discussion on Tuesday did not touch on Churchill's comments on 9/11. "What he said about 9/11 in his essay was not part of our discussion," said Hayes. Both also said they were not swayed by the threat of legal action. When asked what would happen if Churchill won his lawsuit he said, "Will I come back here? Yeah. Will I stay very long? I am not of retirement age now. You figure it out from there." When asked what his emotions were, Churchill raised his fist in the air and shouted "Victory!" Many of his supporters then applauded. The link is here: http://www.9news.com/rss/article.aspx?storyid=74224 So what do you think? Is this a first amendment issue or did the University of Colorado have every right to fire Ward Chuchill. It wasn't in this report but I heard two specifics mentioned when I caught this on tv. 1) He plagerized some Canadian pamphlet for one of his reports and 2) He wrote essays under pseudonyms and then used them as independent sources he cited in other published work. His lawyer says they're goin' to Court. What odds do you give him for reinstatment? Submitted by cylonangel (1468 posts) on July 24, 2007 - 8:40pm. |
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From this article alone I'd
From this article alone I'd say the odds are not good and I'd say a good thing too. If the accusations of plagiarism and faking sources are proven I think it's a no-brainer! He should be fired!
But I also can't imagine his 9/11 statement had really nothing to do with it. I am sure it meant they were not willing to cut him any slack! Wouldn't call it a first amendment issue though.
"call me old fashioned but I prefer feminism that leaves a little something to the imagination!"
I have to agree...
...if the man is a fraud then he should be axed. He actually got his position as a professor in the Ethnic Studies Department, where he rose to the level of Department Head, from an equal opportunity hire by listing himself as an American Indian. When this all broke, however, it was reported that he was not recognized as a Native American by any Indian tribe in the country. His fraud may indeed go bone deep.
Plagerism and falsifying source material are unforgivable for any Professor, IMO. I also believe that he, and any other free person, has an absolute right to be stupid and to say ignorant even hurtful things, like he did in comparing the 3000 innocent people we lost to an infamous Nazi. That definitely drew attention to him leading some in the media and bloggosphere to pour over every thing he had ever written or published. I guess the central question is was he fired for his fraudulant deeds or for his hateful words? Did the University go "fishing" for a reason to fire him, or were they simply unable to ignore the dirt that was exposed by the bloggosphere and the media during his fifteen minutes of fame?
What really amazes me about this subject has always been the knee-jerk support he received from many students and other faculty even after it came to light that his professional work was shoddy and perhaps willfully dishonest. Plagerism can be written off by some as laziness, but to write essays in another name and then cite those works to support his professional findings takes a lot of foresight and hutzpah. It means that he deliberately published what he knew to be false assertions and unsupported conclusions in his professional work. His supporters were booing and jeering when the decision was announced yesterday. I don't get this. I don't think this is an issue between right and left - but between right and wrong.
I might be the only person still fascinated by this case, but thanks for tossing in your two cents worth, Gali!
"The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole - is quit diggin'."
I noticed he never actually
I noticed he never actually denies cheating and falsifying. All he does is trying to divert attention with the first amendment claim!
I have to agree about the students but I guess that is what you get when they are taught by a morally bankrupt person. One looses the sense of what is right and wrong! Just another theory! ;)
Also I think the use of a nazi as comparison is usually just intellectually very weak too!
Having said that, and not saying I condone any killing, I understand there were some people and companies in those buildings who could hardly be called "innocent". For instance I understand Rumsfeld would be there sometimes!
"call me old fashioned but I prefer feminism that leaves a little something to the imagination!"
This is a witchhunt
I've seen Churchill in debate on TV. He's brilliant. This is nothing short of a witchhunt. What he wrote was not out of line; it was provocative and thoughtful -- and completely misconstrued by the right-wing forces that have increasingly attacked free speech/left thinkers in academia. If you don't think they're trying to dismantle multiculturalism and critical thinking, think again. What upsets me is that the reporting on this issue is so biased as to preclude any of the context that I have mentioned. It becomes foregone, in the reader's mind, that Churchill is bad, he was fired justly, the administrators acted fairly, etc., etc.
Now you have a strong sense...
...that an injustice has occured here and i do understand where you're coming from. I am a huge advocate of one's First Amendment rights and his is no less than mine. You state:
"...it was provocative and thoughtful -- and completely misconstrued by the right-wing forces that have increasingly attacked free speech/left thinkers in academia."
Why do you attack "right-wing forces" here? Do you truely believe that the University of Colorado Board of Regents is a right-wing force? I find that hard to believe. If so, it would be unique in academia which is heavily weighted towards the left. There have been dozens of university based studies and media polls which show that the left/right ratio in academa is as imbalanced as that in media: 9-1. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but it is accepted fact in both fields.
My real question to you is: If he has committed plagerism and fraud and this is proven in a Court of Law, will you defend him still? Will you defend a dishonest cheat just because you find his thoughts "provacative and thoughtful" and befitting of your left-wing ideology? I may be wrong but I think your ideology must be pretty left-wing because yours is the first voice I've heard since this situation came to light that has suggested that Churchill is a victim of anything other than himself - and you go right to the ol' "right-wing forces" nonsense as if those on the left don't have any standards of professional conduct and dicipline with regards to plagerism and the like. Is that really true?
"Great minds think alike. They just don't always reach the same conclusion" - stolen from the Little Dutch Girl
politics is politics
"What he said about 9/11 in his essay was not part of our discussion," said Hayes.
quite possibly true, but i believe it's his comments on 9/11 (thus his politics) that lead to the investigation --- of course a person cannot legally be fired for using their first amendment rights, but if one digs deep enough, one can usually find enough "legal" dirt to get rid of anyone . . . institutes of higher learning are no different than any other corporation, it's still a business and they're in it for the money, so if ward was bad for business, then he has to go
if he plagiarized, shame on him and by all means follow the school's faculty code of conduct to correct the situation
but shame on the university for waiting so long to look into its teachers and uphold and enforce its own rules, now who the hell dropped the ball on that one? . . . or is it, they typically don't care who's working for them as long as it doesn't bring them any bad publicity, thus lower enrollment, thus less money from students and government subsidies?
i feel for the guy because it seems he was a really good teacher, however he should have been more diligent in crossing his t's and dotting his i's while climbing that ladder of success --- i guess it's the old adage be careful of what (and who) you do on your way up, it could just be the very thing (or person) that brings you down