Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*
Yes i believe she admits to being bisexual but i also remember hearing an interview saying she just married a man so until they get divorced thats the end of that..... also its Tammy Lynn Michaels-Etheridge (i added the end; i thought it might be a nice touch)
[quote:48f5b108aa="epbut"]Yes i believe she admits to being bisexual but i also remember hearing an interview saying she just married a man so until they get divorced thats the end of that..... also its Tammy Lynn Michaels-Etheridge (i added the end; i thought it might be a nice touch)[/quote:48f5b108aa]
Yep, she is married, but she can still be bisexual (although one could argue that all sex ends after marriage, sexuality does not). ;)
Call me a sceptic, but MM's discussion of her supposed bisexuality rings to me of commercialism. Her "admission" (such as it was) that she made out with some girls in her past but never had a "full on" (her phrase) relationship with a woman felt to me like she was offering her (very gay positive) audience what they wanted. In my book, fooling around with some women in your past does not a bisexual make. And I write this as a MM fan. I think she's fabulous on the show--in fact she's the best thing about the show. I just don't think she is by any stretch of the definition bisexual.
[quote:ae48d0e774="michat"]Call me a sceptic, but MM's discussion of her supposed bisexuality rings to me of commercialism. Her "admission" (such as it was) that she made out with some girls in her past but never had a "full on" (her phrase) relationship with a woman felt to me like she was offering her (very gay positive) audience what they wanted. In my book, fooling around with some women in your past does not a bisexual make. And I write this as a MM fan. I think she's fabulous on the show--in fact she's the best thing about the show. I just don't think she is by any stretch of the definition bisexual.[/quote:ae48d0e774]
You may be right, but she knows what she's done in her past more than we do, so I'm apt to let her define herself how she pleases, although I totally agree that fooling around doesn't equal bisexuality.
Seriously, if Meghan says she's bi, take the girl's word for it. I mean why would anyone come out as bi unnecessarily? I don't REALLY think it's hip.... in REALITY, people think bisexuality is weird.... and that includes a HUGE amount of gays and lesbians.... and I believe it is much less socially acceptable to be bisexual than to be gay. If Meghan knows in her heart she is bisexual, but she has never met the right girl... therefore has never had a real relationship with a woman.... and is now married to a man, she is nonetheless still very much bisexual.
I agree. I was married once- being married doesn't put your sexuality on hold. And let me tell you, I hardly feel "hip" being bisexual. It puts you in this alternate dimension where (some) straights and (some) gays alike look at you like you have third eye.
If I were to compare the number of experiences I've had with men vs. women, some of you-by your judgment of what makes someone bisexual as opposed to bicurious- might not think I was bi enough. But when you figure in things like the LESBIAN REJECTION FACTOR, then you realize that some bisexual women end up dating more men than women because of the availability factor. None of us know how many women Megan tried to seduce; maybe BECAUSE of her bisexuality, she was turned down by dozens of women. We don't know. So I don't really think we should judge.
:woo: I wouldnt have written it better, Wryterzblock.
BTW, Lauren Holloman - who as you might have heard said recently in an interview that she is bisexual - is a living example that just because you get married and have a child (and respect your monogamous commitment) doesnt mean you change your sexuality.
[quote:c15c3f289a="mushaboom"]My goodness.... what a debate!
Seriously, if Meghan says she's bi, take the girl's word for it. I mean why would anyone come out as bi unnecessarily? I don't REALLY think it's hip.... in REALITY, people think bisexuality is weird.... and that includes a HUGE amount of gays and lesbians.... and I believe it is much less socially acceptable to be bisexual than to be gay. If Meghan knows in her heart she is bisexual, but she has never met the right girl... therefore has never had a real relationship with a woman.... and is now married to a man, she is nonetheless still very much bisexual.
My two cents! It was worth it... :D[/quote:c15c3f289a]
[quote:8384aae42e] BTW, Lauren Holloman - who as you might have heard said recently in an interview that she is bisexual - is a living example that just because you get married and have a child (and respect your monogamous commitment) doesnt mean you change your sexuality.
in reference to my previous comment about megan mullaly being bi but married.... just to clear it up i never meant that once married your no longer bi i just meant that for the time being shes exclusevly men.
[quote:59d14ffe18="koma"]Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*[/quote:59d14ffe18]
That list should be properly termed "wish list," though I do take the points about G. Turner and Portia. Angelina Jolie hardly qualifies as an out femme. I wish she were a lesbian but, face it folks, she isn't.
[quote:85d5209040="UMack5"]
Kate Moening, the interviews she do gives it away and she carries herself a certain way
Marcia Cross, did she come out to the press or a magazine[/quote:85d5209040]
Kate Moennig may have a vibe to some people, but she is not "out" (some might also argue that she's not femme, but she's never come out so that's the bigger issue in this particular thread).
A rumour was spread from an Internet message board last year that Marcia Cross was going to come out, but she said she isn't gay, and she's engaged to a man. There is an excellent article about it here: http://www.afterellen.com/People/2005/2/marciacross.html
I'm glad someone mentioned Sophie Ward.
She's very femme.
I saw her on Heartbeat last night and she looked totally amazing.
I don't usually watch this programme but tuned in especially after having become a big fan of Sophie's lately. She's so lovely, on so many levels. Just a pity she had to be hitting on that guy last night... Oh come on ITV, give her a gay storyline !!! You know you want to... :wink:
(Please note :- The last sentence is actually sarcastic. Heartbeat is watched by lots of little old ladies who would have a coronory if any such thing were to happen... Unfortunately the health of the nation is more important than my viewing pleasure. Shame that really.)
[quote:eb5fef784c="Claudia"]Last thing I'd heard, she'd said that she wasn't actually bi.... it was just a mix-up due to her name. :?[/quote:eb5fef784c]
Well, this is what I found on http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/l/ling_bai/index.html . Doesn't it sound [i:eb5fef784c]gay[/i:eb5fef784c] enough?
[quote:eb5fef784c]"When you fall in love with a man or a woman you're lucky. Gender is not a problem for me. Since I've been in the United States, many women have approached me - I don't know why. I have a wild side. I've gone past my fear and have gone forward to feel and have experiences with women. But I always tell them I prefer men."
"I have a man whom I love now. I have a woman now that I have a close relationship with also."[/quote:eb5fef784c]
Ladies :roll: , what about Danielle Egnew? She's a hot famous femme!! She's gorgeous and out and involved in all kinds of stuff in Hollywood. I am so glad that more women like Danielle Egnew are coming forward in so many areas of not only entertainment, but world issues.
AfterEllen had a great interview with her a few months back:
[quote:dfd369f43b="Betty"][quote:dfd369f43b="Claudia"]Last thing I'd heard, she'd said that she wasn't actually bi.... it was just a mix-up due to her name. :?[/quote:dfd369f43b]
Well, this is what I found on http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/l/ling_bai/index.html . Doesn't it sound [i:dfd369f43b]gay[/i:dfd369f43b] enough?[/quote:dfd369f43b]
*shrugs* I don't have an investment in it one way or the other.... I was just repeating something I'm pretty sure I read on [url]www.out.com[/url]. But I'm afraid it was a while ago, so I can't actually prove it by providing a reference (and it may have been wrong, anyway). I just remember that the title of it was 'Bye to bi Bai' - and they said that she was claiming that people had got her wrong, because when she said "I'm Bai", they took it to mean "I'm bi".
I'm not a bi-basher..... it wouldn't make much sense if I was, given that I'm bi myself.
[quote:17065bf50a="michat"][quote:17065bf50a="koma"]Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*[/quote:17065bf50a]
That list should be properly termed "wish list," though I do take the points about G. Turner and Portia. Angelina Jolie hardly qualifies as an out femme. I wish she were a lesbian but, face it folks, she isn't.[/quote:17065bf50a]
That's why there are edits, and a "maybe" list. Also, Angelina has said that she does girls as readily as she does boys, so I think that qualifies as bisexual even if she's never come out officially and made a big deal out of saying, "well folks, I'm bi." She's very out and open about it, and fwiw she is listed on the Bisexual List, NOT the Lesbian List.
Hmmm...You wouldn't consider Melissa Etheridge as femme? She's hardly butch. I would say she's femme, personally.
As for the list - I'm not a huge fan of it because glancing over it a few times I've seen people listed (in the confirmed) section, who simply are not. Much of it seems more of a wish list than anything else. Especially some of the historical figures listed there.
I'm also not one for speculating on who is and who is not in such a manner because it just seems wrong to me to be trying to out anyone like that. I'm all for naming those who are out, however. :D
Famous Out Femmes?
Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*
Famous Out Femmes?
just because shes a model doesn't mean shes femme.
Famous Out Femmes?
^^^Well it's just easy to assume (although you shouldn't) but I don't know.
Famous Out Femmes?
Heather Matarazzo... kind of femme-ish.
Cynthia Nixon.
Melissa Etheridge's girl... can't remember her name this very second....( I know... shame... :oops:)
Ami from Survivor.
Leisha Hailey.
Meghan Mullally.
ummm... not famous yet! ME! Hott femme! 8)
Famous Out Femmes?
Heather Matarazzo... kind of femme-ish.
Cynthia Nixon.
Melissa Etheridge's girl... can't remember her name this very second....( I know... shame... :oops:)
Ami from Survivor.
Leisha Hailey.
Meghan Mullally.
ummm... not famous yet! ME! Hott femme! 8)
Famous Out Femmes?
Meghan Mullally is not a lesbian.
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:2d641539ad="michat"]Meghan Mullally is not a lesbian.[/quote:2d641539ad]
She is however, by most accounts, bisexual.
Famous Out Femmes?
Yes i believe she admits to being bisexual but i also remember hearing an interview saying she just married a man so until they get divorced thats the end of that..... also its Tammy Lynn Michaels-Etheridge (i added the end; i thought it might be a nice touch)
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:48f5b108aa="epbut"]Yes i believe she admits to being bisexual but i also remember hearing an interview saying she just married a man so until they get divorced thats the end of that..... also its Tammy Lynn Michaels-Etheridge (i added the end; i thought it might be a nice touch)[/quote:48f5b108aa]
Yep, she is married, but she can still be bisexual (although one could argue that all sex ends after marriage, sexuality does not). ;)
Famous Out Femmes?
Call me a sceptic, but MM's discussion of her supposed bisexuality rings to me of commercialism. Her "admission" (such as it was) that she made out with some girls in her past but never had a "full on" (her phrase) relationship with a woman felt to me like she was offering her (very gay positive) audience what they wanted. In my book, fooling around with some women in your past does not a bisexual make. And I write this as a MM fan. I think she's fabulous on the show--in fact she's the best thing about the show. I just don't think she is by any stretch of the definition bisexual.
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:ae48d0e774="michat"]Call me a sceptic, but MM's discussion of her supposed bisexuality rings to me of commercialism. Her "admission" (such as it was) that she made out with some girls in her past but never had a "full on" (her phrase) relationship with a woman felt to me like she was offering her (very gay positive) audience what they wanted. In my book, fooling around with some women in your past does not a bisexual make. And I write this as a MM fan. I think she's fabulous on the show--in fact she's the best thing about the show. I just don't think she is by any stretch of the definition bisexual.[/quote:ae48d0e774]
You may be right, but she knows what she's done in her past more than we do, so I'm apt to let her define herself how she pleases, although I totally agree that fooling around doesn't equal bisexuality.
Famous Out Femmes?
portia de rossi. guinevere turner. angelina jolie.... and... ehh...
Famous Out Femmes?
She strikes me more as bicurious rather than "full on" bisexual.
Famous Out Femmes?
My goodness.... what a debate!
Seriously, if Meghan says she's bi, take the girl's word for it. I mean why would anyone come out as bi unnecessarily? I don't REALLY think it's hip.... in REALITY, people think bisexuality is weird.... and that includes a HUGE amount of gays and lesbians.... and I believe it is much less socially acceptable to be bisexual than to be gay. If Meghan knows in her heart she is bisexual, but she has never met the right girl... therefore has never had a real relationship with a woman.... and is now married to a man, she is nonetheless still very much bisexual.
My two cents! It was worth it... :D
Famous Out Femmes?
:yeahthat:
I agree. I was married once- being married doesn't put your sexuality on hold. And let me tell you, I hardly feel "hip" being bisexual. It puts you in this alternate dimension where (some) straights and (some) gays alike look at you like you have third eye.
If I were to compare the number of experiences I've had with men vs. women, some of you-by your judgment of what makes someone bisexual as opposed to bicurious- might not think I was bi enough. But when you figure in things like the LESBIAN REJECTION FACTOR, then you realize that some bisexual women end up dating more men than women because of the availability factor. None of us know how many women Megan tried to seduce; maybe BECAUSE of her bisexuality, she was turned down by dozens of women. We don't know. So I don't really think we should judge.
Famous Out Femmes?
Who's judging, I'm not.
I just like to stick labels on people. Whatever that label might be or however permanent/temporary it may be.
I know it's a very bad thing to do and people don't like being catagorized and put in boxes, blah blah blah.
But to me it seems like a necessary evil. We need to know roughly where a person is coming from...
Famous Out Femmes?
:woo: I wouldnt have written it better, Wryterzblock.
BTW, Lauren Holloman - who as you might have heard said recently in an interview that she is bisexual - is a living example that just because you get married and have a child (and respect your monogamous commitment) doesnt mean you change your sexuality.
(sorry for getting off topic)
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:c15c3f289a="mushaboom"]My goodness.... what a debate!
Seriously, if Meghan says she's bi, take the girl's word for it. I mean why would anyone come out as bi unnecessarily? I don't REALLY think it's hip.... in REALITY, people think bisexuality is weird.... and that includes a HUGE amount of gays and lesbians.... and I believe it is much less socially acceptable to be bisexual than to be gay. If Meghan knows in her heart she is bisexual, but she has never met the right girl... therefore has never had a real relationship with a woman.... and is now married to a man, she is nonetheless still very much bisexual.
My two cents! It was worth it... :D[/quote:c15c3f289a]
well said :D
Famous Out Femmes?
i don't know if you've ever heard of Cream, singer in a band called addis black widow. she's really femme and really out, but not that famous so... :P
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:8384aae42e] BTW, Lauren Holloman - who as you might have heard said recently in an interview that she is bisexual - is a living example that just because you get married and have a child (and respect your monogamous commitment) doesnt mean you change your sexuality.
(sorry for getting off topic)[/quote:8384aae42e]
An interview in what publication?
Famous Out Femmes?
in reference to my previous comment about megan mullaly being bi but married.... just to clear it up i never meant that once married your no longer bi i just meant that for the time being shes exclusevly men.
Famous Out Lesbians
Ivette from Big Brother 6, she's a lesbian and has a girlfriend
Sandra Bernhard
Margeret Cho
Kate Moening, the interviews she do gives it away and she carries herself a certain way
Sara Gilbert, has a girfriend or isn't she married to her girl. They have a baby together
Marcia Cross, did she come out to the press or a magazine
that's all the women I can think of 4 now
8) 8) 8)
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:59d14ffe18="koma"]Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*[/quote:59d14ffe18]
That list should be properly termed "wish list," though I do take the points about G. Turner and Portia. Angelina Jolie hardly qualifies as an out femme. I wish she were a lesbian but, face it folks, she isn't.
Re: Famous Out Lesbians
[quote:85d5209040="UMack5"]
Kate Moening, the interviews she do gives it away and she carries herself a certain way
Marcia Cross, did she come out to the press or a magazine[/quote:85d5209040]
Kate Moennig may have a vibe to some people, but she is not "out" (some might also argue that she's not femme, but she's never come out so that's the bigger issue in this particular thread).
A rumour was spread from an Internet message board last year that Marcia Cross was going to come out, but she said she isn't gay, and she's engaged to a man. There is an excellent article about it here: http://www.afterellen.com/People/2005/2/marciacross.html
Famous Out Femmes?
I'm glad someone mentioned Sophie Ward.
She's very femme.
I saw her on Heartbeat last night and she looked totally amazing.
I don't usually watch this programme but tuned in especially after having become a big fan of Sophie's lately. She's so lovely, on so many levels. Just a pity she had to be hitting on that guy last night... Oh come on ITV, give her a gay storyline !!! You know you want to... :wink:
(Please note :- The last sentence is actually sarcastic. Heartbeat is watched by lots of little old ladies who would have a coronory if any such thing were to happen... Unfortunately the health of the nation is more important than my viewing pleasure. Shame that really.)
Famous Out Femmes?
Some on my mind right now. All are bi femme
Drea de Matteo
Bai Ling
Sophie B. Hawkins
Rebecca Loos
Sinead O'Connor
Kinnie Starr
Margaret Cho
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:4cf0544904="Betty"]Bai Ling[/quote:4cf0544904]
Last thing I'd heard, she'd said that she wasn't actually bi.... it was just a mix-up due to her name. :?
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:eb5fef784c="Claudia"]Last thing I'd heard, she'd said that she wasn't actually bi.... it was just a mix-up due to her name. :?[/quote:eb5fef784c]
Well, this is what I found on http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/l/ling_bai/index.html . Doesn't it sound [i:eb5fef784c]gay[/i:eb5fef784c] enough?
[quote:eb5fef784c]"When you fall in love with a man or a woman you're lucky. Gender is not a problem for me. Since I've been in the United States, many women have approached me - I don't know why. I have a wild side. I've gone past my fear and have gone forward to feel and have experiences with women. But I always tell them I prefer men."
"I have a man whom I love now. I have a woman now that I have a close relationship with also."[/quote:eb5fef784c]
Famous Out Femmes?
Yep let's give the bi-bashers more fodder. At least she's honest.
Famous Out Femmes?
Ladies :roll: , what about Danielle Egnew? She's a hot famous femme!! She's gorgeous and out and involved in all kinds of stuff in Hollywood. I am so glad that more women like Danielle Egnew are coming forward in so many areas of not only entertainment, but world issues.
AfterEllen had a great interview with her a few months back:
http://www.afterellen.com/People/2005/7/egnew.html
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:dfd369f43b="Betty"][quote:dfd369f43b="Claudia"]Last thing I'd heard, she'd said that she wasn't actually bi.... it was just a mix-up due to her name. :?[/quote:dfd369f43b]
Well, this is what I found on http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/l/ling_bai/index.html . Doesn't it sound [i:dfd369f43b]gay[/i:dfd369f43b] enough?[/quote:dfd369f43b]
*shrugs* I don't have an investment in it one way or the other.... I was just repeating something I'm pretty sure I read on [url]www.out.com[/url]. But I'm afraid it was a while ago, so I can't actually prove it by providing a reference (and it may have been wrong, anyway). I just remember that the title of it was 'Bye to bi Bai' - and they said that she was claiming that people had got her wrong, because when she said "I'm Bai", they took it to mean "I'm bi".
I'm not a bi-basher..... it wouldn't make much sense if I was, given that I'm bi myself.
Famous Out Femmes?
Well there is also;
Leisha Haley
[img:00bc591f9f]http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/h/hailey_leisha/leisha_hailey.jpg[/img:00bc591f9f]
Amanda Moore
[img:00bc591f9f]http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/m/moore_amanda/amanda_moore.jpg[/img:00bc591f9f]
Samantha Fox
[img:00bc591f9f]http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/f/fox_samantha/samantha_fox.jpg[/img:00bc591f9f]
Sophie Ward
[img:00bc591f9f]http://www.clublez.com/movies/lesbian_celebrities/w/ward_sophie/sophie_ward.jpg[/img:00bc591f9f]
Please let me know if I've made any mistakes, this can be such a grey area.
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:17065bf50a="michat"][quote:17065bf50a="koma"]Well, you could refer to [URL=http://www.afterellen.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=508]"THE LIST"[/url] posted in this same topic area... it's quite lengthy.
*K*[/quote:17065bf50a]
That list should be properly termed "wish list," though I do take the points about G. Turner and Portia. Angelina Jolie hardly qualifies as an out femme. I wish she were a lesbian but, face it folks, she isn't.[/quote:17065bf50a]
That's why there are edits, and a "maybe" list. Also, Angelina has said that she does girls as readily as she does boys, so I think that qualifies as bisexual even if she's never come out officially and made a big deal out of saying, "well folks, I'm bi." She's very out and open about it, and fwiw she is listed on the Bisexual List, NOT the Lesbian List.
Famous Out Femmes?
forgot sam fox... but isn't amanda moore quite tomboyish??...
and oh, speaking of supermodels; gia carangi... r.i.p.
Famous Out Femmes?
Saffron Burrows (bisexual and currently in a relationship with Fiona Shaw.)
Patricia Velasquez (bisexual.)
Famous Out Femmes?
Hmmm...You wouldn't consider Melissa Etheridge as femme? She's hardly butch. I would say she's femme, personally.
As for the list - I'm not a huge fan of it because glancing over it a few times I've seen people listed (in the confirmed) section, who simply are not. Much of it seems more of a wish list than anything else. Especially some of the historical figures listed there.
I'm also not one for speculating on who is and who is not in such a manner because it just seems wrong to me to be trying to out anyone like that. I'm all for naming those who are out, however. :D
Famous Out Femmes?
[quote:0a8ea0af33="lucky_star"]forgot sam fox... but isn't amanda moore quite tomboyish??...
and oh, speaking of supermodels; gia carangi... r.i.p.[/quote:0a8ea0af33]
Well I know Amanda is out and 100% gay, and is a model which is pretty femme. I don't know how she is outside of her work though.
Oh and Eliza Dushku....oops you said OUT! :twisted: