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Bad Lesbian MoviesI will probably get hate-postings for this blog, but that's what democracies are for. (To ignore everyone who doesn't agree with you, lol!) Okay, all joking aside, I read that there's a Desert Hearts 2 in the works. After watching DS, I'm really confused as to why there's so much excitement revolving around the sequel. The prequel was dry, slow, convoluted and predictable, albeit revolutionary. Is that the only reason there's so much for it in the Lesbian community, the fact that it was revolutionary? Also, what was with all of the hype surrounding "Loving Annabelle"? Yes, Diane Gaidry and the girl who played Annabelle were very nice to look at, but their on-screen chemistry was awkward at best. Moreover, the progression and character development was ridiculously rushed. This is especially important, considering this movie needed a strong character development to make it believable and enjoyable. I really didn't like it, since other movies like "My Summer of Love" did a fantastic job with character development, and it was nothing short of great talent and chemistry from the two leads. It was very very very slow, but it all came together fabulously. In fact, I'd even call it a "social commentary" movie than a "lesbian" movie. "Imagine Me & You" was decent, if not highly highly predictable. However, Lena Heady and Piper Perabo were so adorable together. "Red Doors" should never have been coined an LGBT movie. The two actresses who played the lesbians had the most awkward, gut-wrenching and unintentionally horrible on-screen chemistry. The girl who played the doctor looked like she wanted to puke every time she and Mia Scarlet kissed. Thus far, I think the best lesbian movie I've ever seen was "Bound." Top-notch story, great leads, great chemistry. It was absolutely fantastic. I think my overall problem with lesbian movies that everybody else seems to love is that they are trite. These films directors attempt to tell a story that's been told in bulk since 1958, and instead of creating a new style for this cliche, they use whatever technique they can afford, which isn't cool for the people who supply their budgets. Anyway, for kicks - Nat's list of favorite lesbian movies: 1. Bound 2. My Summer of Love 3. D.E.B.S. - it worked! 4. Fingersmith
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See, you proved my point re: DH
First of all, let's depart from the "how-old-are-you" attacks or any other PERSONAL attacks (or what I felt was an attack) because a bad movie is bad, period. I didn't like DH because by the time I came out, "Bound" had already elevated the bar for lesbian movies. I feel DH has immense hype because it was revolutionary, not an important piece of American cinema.
Also, on "My Summer of Love," good movies don't need to please you to be good. "2001: A Space Odyssey" is a GREAT movie, but I don't know a single person, myself included, who was having the time of their lives in the theaters. You could fall asleep, wake up 20 minutes later, and find that you didn't miss any substantial plot. MSOL is great because of the development, acting, albeit weird camera angles. Another movie I'd include in this category are "The Talented Mr. Ripley," "Requiem for a Dream," etc.
All-in-all, I agree, however, that better lesbian movies are waiting to be produced, released and gorged by viewers like us.
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
I agree, but...
concerning Aimee&Jaguar ... You do realize that this was true story? This actually happend. That one of the women died in a concentrationcamp? And i remember that the movie had a positive attitude towards the end. Maybe i am wrong. So it's not like it is a made up story.
Otherwise i agree that the miserable and deadly end in movies never did much for when it was about lesbian love. Especially when advertising praises those movies as daring. Phew! Puhlease...!
On Aimee & Jaguar
I think the story was really touching, but again, weird development/chemistry between the leads. (did anybody else cringe at the scene when the blond tried making love to a naked Felice but got completely shut down? Did anybody else understand why she wanted it so bad right then and there?)
I seldom understood the nature of their relationship, or why the Nazi lady was so jealous of Felice.
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
Not really
No. Lilly (the blonde) was very jealous of Felice's many girlfriends. (When she came out to her birthday part, she saw Felice dancing with another girl). Therefore, she wanted Felice to be hers completely. But Felice, though loving Lilly, wasn't a girl who liked to be controlled or to be owned. That's why she shut Lilly down at that night, because she thought Lilly being childish (which was true in fact).
The is actually a movie with good direction and good acting. The rare one in lesbian movies. However, this movie may not express very well the relationship between Lilly and Felice.
no bad endings please
i dont like anything with bad endings or worse, esp one gal backstabbing the other...
my worst list : lost and delirious (by far the worst for the betrayal and the suicide at the end - HORRIBLE!); summer of love (again, betrayal and deception); heavenly creatures (as a movie the quality and acting are good, but as a movie for and about lesbian characters its bad, even though it was based on true story, i'll grant that, but still...)...
my fave list - for good endings, even if the story is predictable, lesbians need more good endings, need more feel-good movies about ourselves : imagine me and you, tipping the velvet (there was one betrayal, but she repented and the ending is great, the heroine gets who she wants), saving face (chinese lesbians), and what i consider to be the very underrated Fire (indian lesbians), the last one was very real (wouldnt be surprised if this was true of some indian women), very poignant, and showed the journey of two women from unhappily married to in love with each other..and they did ride off into the proverbial sunset. theres also the light-hearded chutney popcorn.
other movies i am neutral about : desert hearts, red door (the lesbian character is not really central, i agree with nat the actress is stiff), loving annabelle (ending is not good but there was no betrayal, which is something i cannot stand, in movies or in real life!), etc.
i am sure there are others i care to put in one of the three categories above, but they dont come to mind now.
I don't mind bad/unhappy endings...
...as long as the overall content is rock-solid, i.e., "Requiem for a Dream."
I don't think that the GOOD/ELITE/WOWWOWWOW film is mainly intended to please audiences. That's not to say that I only enjoy disturbing flicks, either, but that I don't mind a gut-wrenching ending like "My Summer of Love" if it's led up to that point well. (A contrast is "Lost & Delirious," I don't think ANYONE saw that ending, even though I wanted it to end 30 min prior to the finale.)
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
pretty much with you on
pretty much with you on most.
and requiem is one of my most favorite films ever.
watched loving annabelle a couple of months back, and i thought it was plain crappy. i kinda got surprised when i read good stuff about it. *shrug
Bad Lesbo Cinema
I have a great affection for Desert Hearts as it came out shortly before I did! The two leads have great chemistry together, and the film was revolutionary for its time. This was due to its having a happy ending, and the characters being well-adjusted, normal people and not sicko, murderous freaks. For those too young to remember how lesbians were portrayed in the not-so-distant past, take a look at flicks from the 50's, 60's and 70's (The Children's Hour, Killing of Sister George, The Fox, etc)...it's not pretty.
Since DH opened the door for lesbian-themed movies (and it did), we've had to endure some nasty stuff, indeed. Kissing Jessica Stein, for example...just awful! I was amazed after watching it to see that it wasn't written by a man, because it sure played like a piggish straight-man's fantasy (woman 'experiments' with women, only to come back to her pretty little senses and return to guys). High Art? Pretty bad. Entre Nous? Tedious! Claire of the Moon? Absolutely excruciating!
Bound was pretty good; the sex was decent, but there was too much violence for me. But I'm a Cheerleader was over-the-top, but was obviously meant to be a campy trifle. Had some laughs, though.
As far as I'm concerned, the great American lesbian movie is yet to be made. TV has a better track record. The L Word has its problems, certainly, most notably weak writing. But it gets it right enough of the time, and there is that lucious girl-on-girl action we love so much! And Logo's The Big Gay Sketch Show has been pretty good, containing at least one really funny sketch every episode so far. The lesbian speed dating sketch was really funny, and the lesbian phone sex line bit was hilarious!
Happy/Sad...either way
Just so long as it is believable. I'd rather see a really good sad film than a really bad film with a happy ending. I think because it happens so infrequently in lesbian films that I may gravitate towards happy endings, but they aren't a prerequisite or automatically put a film into a specific category.
High Art, for example, to me is a very good film with a very sad ending. It is such a hauntingly textured, gritty, visceral portrayal of realistically flawed characters that the ultimately sad ending, though disturbing, doesn't detract from the overall quality of the film. In fact, it seems so very organic and comes so out of the blue, all of which works and makes it even sadder.
Comparatively, I found Loving Annabelle to be so contrived and lacking in any substantive onscreen dialogue or development between the two lead characters that the whole film is flat and the ending even more unfulfilling. What little dialogue there was came across as stilted and painfully awkward most of the time. It felt as though big chunks of the film were missing, either by poor editing or by omission. I'm not even particularly sold on the actors, either, but the film has so many other problems that acting is the least of them. It is such a shame, because the cinematography in the film is really lovely.
Though I can understand why people might not like it, I will confess that Desert Hearts is one of my favorite lesbian films. I am willing to admit that the film is very dated and I'm very ambivalent about the idea of a sequel. I loved both of the actresses and I'm not sure that either of them even act much anymore. I'd almost rather remember it as it is than risk something that might not live up to the original. Dirty Dancing/Havana Nights keeps flashing through my mind.
Just to show I have absolutely no taste, another of my favorites is It's in the Water, which I'm sure many people probably have on their list of really bad lesbian films. I can't help it though -- Alex and Grace have such darling chemistry and it has one of the best lines of dialogue I've ever heard, not to mention one melt-your-socks kissing scene. I hear that a sequel for this one is in the works as well.
Apparently no one can write new lesbian films, so they're just going to keep building on the old ones. Can we get Bound II?
Nat...
HOWEVER for the sake of peace keeping, I shall swallow my pride and apologise if I offended you, attacked you or just plain insulted and hurt your feelings. That was not at all my intention. I get too riled up in 'debate' like subjects. Please forgive me?
Whereas there are a lot of films I don't enjoy because of the ending, Loving Annabelle, High Art, etc, I can't deny they are brilliant, cinamatographically (which is a new word I just invented!) and are done all on their own levels of beauty.
I wonder if the reason why people aren't writing new lesbians films is because of the constant critique the old ones recieve? Pointing the finger at myself here, too. I mean, we tear these films apart, rant and rave about how we would have made them better, yet none of us, as far as I'm aware, has ever actually produced/directed/written a lesbian film. I toyed with it in High School, but never expanded.
Anyway, I'm off to watch Xena now!*sniff* apology accepted
LoL! OK, I think I came off as too sensitive there, but the drawback of internet forums is that the writer's smile and body language don't convey too well with these fonts. There has to be "charisma smileys."
Anywho, DH SUCKED! (see, you didn't get to see my devilish smile or feel my nudge there.)
Best Films
I really liked Desert Hearts when it first came out, and it was groundbreaking. The two leads were attractive, had good chemistry...all the good stuff. The film as a whole hasn't aged well, however, and it looks a little dated these days. Anyway, here's my list:
BEST:
Bound
Fire
Fingersmith
But I'm A Cheerleader
Fingersmith is very underrated;I think its much better than the more highly publicized Tipping the Velvet.
i agree. fingersmith really
i agree. fingersmith really surprised me!
when night is falling wasn't all too bad either.. being that most lesbian movies are...
and i also like the cut eones.. like imagine me and you, debs, and loving annabelle
What Did You Like
This ought to get me some enemies - I never really liked Imagine Me & You. It's one of my favourites, true, but I don't always like it. I mean, I just wish there'd been more. I know, unhappy with what I've got much, but the point is that due to the fact it was made recently, you would have thought the story line would have been a little better. And call me crazy, but I wanted a little more action! ITS PIPER! ITS LENA!My main problem with Desert
My main problem with Desert Hearts is that it has so little in the way of plot. Woman comes to ranch... falls in love with other woman... they stay together (probably). I've seen Sister George, so I can well understand why this movie, with its beautiful, normal, thoughtful women, was so important to lesbian audiences in the early 80s. But I wish the filmmaker hadn't felt that making a movie about two women who fall in love and stay together meant that she couldn't make a movie that was about anything else.
To be honest... and I know I can only say this because we now have the luxury of a range of lesbian movies... I probably prefer Sister George to Desert Hearts... not as a representation of lesbians, but purely as a movie. It's just so much more entertaining. And even from the representation point of view... while I know it would be a sorry state of affairs if we had nothing but Sister George to represent us, I don't actually find that character as offensive and stereotypical as some people do. I thought she was pretty cool and funny, and I was certainly rooting for her over Mercy Croft, as well as the whiny Childie.
You can definitely put me in the camp of those who prefer good movie-making to conventional happy endings (if forced to choose). So long as the lesbians aren't being killed/punished because they're lesbians... and so long as there are some lesbian movies out there that don't end tragically... I'm prepared to watch a sad/tragic ending. After all, some of the best heterosexual romances end tragically.. Romeo and Juliet, Casablanca, Titanic, The English Patient.
I would definitely agree, though, that we are still waiting for The Great Lesbian Movie. We haven't had our Brokeback Mountain yet. Tipping the Velvet and Fingersmith were both great (in my opinion), but they were television. We need something of that originality, quality and sheer entertainment level as a big studio release.
I see where you are going
I see where you are going there and I totally agree. Do you want to know why Romeo and Juliet, Casablanca, Titanic, The English Patient are GREAT romances - even though they are hetero - because of the writing!
Sarah Water's fourth book, The Night Watch has all that is needed for a fantastic work of art (capital F) Film. Tipping the Velvet and Fingersmith have done so well concidering they were shot for tv. Can you imagine what a big budget, and the likes of Deepa Mehta (Fire) as director, would do for The Night Watch?
oooh...
...Fire's a good one.
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
Fingersmith
I did not enjoy Tipping The Velvet that much, to be honest. I found the "vaudeville" element (the singing and dancing etc) really cheesy. The actress who played Nan irritated the hell out of me. And the portrayal of the predatory older lesbians was just horrible.
Fingersmith worked really well as melodrama with a twist. The performances were top-notch and the lead actresses were both appealing and convincing. The characters of Maude and Sue were really sweet (unlikeable lead characters tend to ruin my enjoyment of a film). And I think the love story had depth and meaning.
I agree that there hasn't yet been a lesbian equivilant (in film,anyway) to Brokeback Mountain. As in an epic love story.
But I reckon the Helen Stewart/Nikki Wade romance in Bad Girls would work as a film. It has the same huge scope and emotional depth as Brokeback, IMHO. I read the Helen/Nikki romance once described as a "hugely emotional, epic love story of Shakespearean proportions" and this is the type of love story (gay or straight) that translates well to the big screen.
“Lesbian Movies” is not (fortunately) a genre.
This said, there are many terrible movies with lesbian content. Many of them, suffer from giving the political far more importance than the art. Sacrificing quality, for the sake of conveying an urgent (and often repetitive at this point) message. Most of these movies would have been better off as pure text, or maybe pubic service announcements. A good example, for me, is Love & Suicide. A low budget is not an excuse; I’ve seen many excellent movies made with nothing more then a group of friends, a mini dv cam, and a trial copy of avid.
The scarce amount of “lesbian movies” is spread out thin over a wide variety of schools and genres and the vast majority of these films are considered not worthy of a repeat view because, they are, with no excuses left, not fine or innovative examples of their genre. As what it is, a mainstream romantic comedy Imagine You and Me, works fine, but when compared to something like, oh I don’t know, Love Actually, it pails greatly. My personal choice for a romantic comedy with lesbian content, would probably be Better then Chocolate.
Most of the time specific genres have specific target audiences. With “Lesbian Movies”, any movie of any genre, has one particularly critical audience: Us.
The whole death and betrayal thing is nothing more then tragedy, and I oppose those who believe it is some sort of kill 'em, burn 'em and forget 'em conspiracy, in fact I think that it is a narrative resource so used with lesbian cinema because there is no better way of conveying the absolute passion and utter devotion involved in such tragic loses then with the common understanding of what love between two women entails. In spite of defending tragedy I do think it has been overexploited and badly employed when it comes to lesbian stories.
Many movies, like Aimee&Jaguar and High Art(which is based on the life of one of my idols, Nan Goldin), use love stories (with all the emotional, political and ethical implications) as a vehicle to convey tragic historical contexts and circumstances based on real life experiences.
I think it might be possible to not dismiss movies so easily, if we are willing to explore the meaning of a movie within it’s genre, context and school. Avoiding comparing a movie like Bound (pulp-fiction crime flick) with something like Gypo (dogma), just because girls get it on in both films.
I figured this would get long, can’t seem to ever be as brief as I would like to.
Best lesbian movie
The forever best movie is 'Saving Face'. You'll never regret watching it.
Really?!
I was so excited to see that movie and than were royally pissed because I thought it sooo bad.
my summer of love was TERRIBLE
Ugh I watched My Summer Of Love on the flight from london after seeing a poster advertisment outside the Odeon. I knew from the minute I saw the poster that it was GAY and was very curious to see what sort of movie it was ^_^ I'm glad that I saw it for free rather than pay for a ticket.
Lost and Delerious was bad as well, but I think the overall WORST lesbian movie of all time goes to It's In the Water, this cheap ass B quality movie with bad hair and bad clothes. Dear god, it was a waste of my life. The girls making out in that movie didn't save it at all - which makes it doubly pathetic considering girls kissing pretty much makes EVERYTHING better.
Movies like D.E.B.S. (which has to be my favourite movie ever) and But I'm A Cheerleader are totally camp and aren't meant to present amazing messages on the audience, but they're worth more than pretentious coming-of-age films like My Summer Of Love.
The best "lesbian movies" if we agree to call them by that title, I believe, are D.E.B.S., Fingersmith, Tipping the Velvet, Saving Face, and Show Me Love.
LOL
All US Lesbian Films are terrible, unless camp films. All US lesbian films lacks acting ability, poor editing, short sighted, cheaply done and any element that makes a good film. I am disappointed when other countries are putting out great lesbian films hollywood and/or independent studios fall short in every category.
Desert Hearts...
Desert Hearts had more of a
Desert Hearts had more of a plot than any Mills & Boons does, trust me.
Oh, well if we're setting the bar that high...
Balls and Courage.
I'm probably coming off as a pompous bitch, oh well.
I agree that Rabbit’s comment was a very harsh generalization. However, in my book, your comment is equally prejudicial. When your country dominates the mainstream film industry and has a very low influx of foreign production, it is probably easy to perceive it as THE "trendsetter". But going from that rewriting of history to using words like "courage" or "balls" when speaking of "international"(iow, the rest of the world) directors, well what can I say.
You want balls? How about Madchen in Uniforme(1931), not only the first film to address lesbianism, but also an unapologetic opposition to a fascist state. I'll grant you the fact that US has set the trend for lipstick lesbian romantic comedies, but does that really take courage, compared to films with lesbian content produced in I’ll give you a couple of hardcore examples, the Spain of Franco or the Italy of Mussolini... And forget the past, some of the best recent films I've seen are from Romania, Brazil, Bosnia...Just to name a few places where trend setting is not the first thing on their mind.
If the US wants to take the credit for breaking the barrier and setting trends, so be it. After all it is true that most ppl will probably end up watching a lesbian film produced in the US, before one produced in their country(this is a matter of distribution). But what does it say to you that in spite of everything done in the US, at this point there are more fully developed and physically involved lesbian characters on national TV in a country with a 20 yr old democracy(Spain) then in the US?
Don't be so quick to judge the courage and balls of us internationals, 1 year before Ellen came out on her sitcom, even a push over country like my own (Mexico), all in all with our corruption, Catholicism, and provincialism, had a telenovela(the most watched at the time) with a fully developed lesbian character who not only fell in love with a str8 girl but also got the girl, and kissed her! Primetime telenovela! That takes balls.
Please don’t mistake me for an anti-American; I am Mexican-American. Anyway, if anyone is interested, I can back up anything I’ve said with titles and synopsis.
http://comadotcom.blogspot.com
what telenovela are you
what telenovela are you talking about? I'm just wondering cause I've actually been searching for a mexican telenovela with a lesbian character and I haven't been successful in finding one! please let me know, I'll greatly appreciate it. :)
it ain't mexican, but...
...most of the telenovelas they play in the Mexican channels are Brazilian, anyway. :P (Examples: "El Clon" and I dunno what else. If you need to know which tn's are Brazilian, just watch for unsynchronized speeches.) :D
I know "A Senhora do Destino" had lesbian characters who fall for each other, agonize over coming out, get together, and adopt a kid. Not too sexy for this day and age, but it was a huge jump for us!
Yeah but “Señora del
Yeah but “Señora del Destino” (the Spanish title) is fairly recent as is “El Clon”, and these telenovelas were aired in telemundo, here in the US. espejitoespejito is talking about a telenovela aired in Mexico around 1996, and judging by what she said it must have been a telenovela aired on El Canal de las estrellas or Azteca 13. I think those were the two most watched channels that aired telenovelas at the time.
Nada Personal (1996)
Hey, sorry I took so long.
The telenovela is Nada Personal, aired on Azteca 13. The lesbian, I'm not sure what her character's name was, but the actress was Claudia Lobo, her love interest actress Maria Renee Prudencio.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108874/
There's not a whole lot of info on this relationship on the web, but anyway, it was a long long time ago in cyber years...
http://comadotcom.blogspot.com
awww...
...thanks!
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
Laughs Out Loud
Of course I'm not setting any bars - I'm just making a comparison I suppose.
For it's time, Desert Heart had more plot than DEBS does now. Seriously. In DEBS - bad girl meets good girl, they deny their attraction, they hook up friends finds out, they try not to be around each other but end up together. Actually, DEBS has a lot in common with Desert Hearts...
Mmm I think I'll go be dense on the Free For All Thread...
Espe...
I don't mean to say this defensively, but I might come across that way. I'm Australian and I don't claim to know a great deal about the film industry. I am not prejudicial towards any one country and I was trying to use the US as an example.
My own country is fucked - people say they support lesbian and gay rights, movies, etc, but they do not. Living in a country that's swarmed by hypocrasy makes me ill and again, the US was my example.
Speaking of Bad Lesbian Movies -
The Hunger. Daughters of Darkness. What were those about?!
Camp Classics
Speaking of Bad Lesbian Movies -
The Hunger. Daughters of Darkness. What were those about?!
Camp. Pure and simple. I shouldn’t even be nosing around in this thread, really, because I have a deep love for B-movies. At this very moment, I have the soundtrack of Little Shop of Horrors playing in the background. I’d rather watch an Elvira flick than sit through a masterpiece like Gone With The Wind.
I can’t defend the artistic merits of The Hunger or Daughters of Darkness, because I‘m pretty sure that there aren‘t any. (Apart from Catherine Deneuve in the former, and Delphine Seyrig in the latter, of course.) But I can recommend The Vampire Lovers - based on Le Fanu’s Carmilla, the original lesbian vampire novel. (Megan Follows did an audio book recording of Carmilla, actually, which somehow managed to be both creepy and sexy.) It’s just a matter of taste. I, apparently, have none.
Movies I can’t stand?
Loving Annabelle. The script jumped oddly, important exposition was entirely cut out, and I still don’t understand the point of that damn porcupine. The 1931 Maedchen in Uniform was so much more interesting. I found the subtlety and the repressed longing in Maedchen about a thousand times sexier than the love scene in Loving Annabelle. (The moment near the end when Fraulein von Bernburg gasped “Manuela!” and ran towards the door was breathtaking.)
Claire of the Moon. Just thinking about it makes my head throb. It’s one of those movies that you have to watch once, just to say you did. And then a year or two later you think, “It can’t possibly be as bad as I remember.” So you watch it again and think, “This is even worse than I thought.” It’s a vicious cycle.
Bar Girls. I’m conflicted on this one. I love camp, but this movie made me cringe. I can’t tell if it was supposed to be funny. I don’t generally mind being confused by a movie (shades of gray, and all) but to watch a movie and think “Am I supposed to be laughing?” every five minutes is a bit more than I can take.
Movies I love?
Bobbie’s Girl. Why has nobody seen this? It has to be one of the most beautiful, poignant movies I’ve ever seen. Everyone I loan it to adores it. Bernadette Peters is in it! Rachel Ward! Drama! Comedy! There’s even a happy ending! What more do you people want?!? (Sorry. I just really love this movie.)
Between Two Women. There may not be any high drama, but it’s a beautiful movie. It’s sweet, and subtle, and I’d watch it for Barbara Marten’s eyes alone.
The Midwife’s Tale. A medieval fairy tale about a noblewoman falling in love with the village midwife, told as a bedtime story by a lesbian mother to her daughter. Again, why has nobody seen this movie?
Why ask why
Indeed
Word.
I've only seen Claire of the Moon once many years ago but once was enough for me. That unfortunate experience has been burned into my brain ever since.
and more
I don't normally advocate public humiliation but perhaps the writer and director of 'Claire' should be forced to front up and explain where it all went wrong.
Bobbie’s Girl. Why has
Bobbie’s Girl. Why has nobody seen this? It has to be one of the most beautiful, poignant movies I’ve ever seen. Everyone I loan it to adores it. Bernadette Peters is in it! Rachel Ward! Drama! Comedy! There’s even a happy ending! What more do you people want?!? (Sorry. I just really love this movie.)
I loved this film as well. I recorded it off Showtime a while back. It isn't out on DVD though(VHS only, I have looked throughly), and it only airs on the secondary Showtime channels, is why I think not many people have seen it. Oh, has that kid ever had a part where both his parents were alive?
D.E.B.S.
I love it. It is a silly romantic comedy set in an goofy James Bond type world. I loved Jill Richie constantly stealing scenes. That and I can not say Coffee right any more. Listen to the director commentary about the club scene explaining Jordana's motivation.
Saving Face
I need to watch it again now.
Bound
Nice Neo-Noir, plus Jennifer Tilly, Gina Gershon, and Joey Pants.
But I'm A Cheerleader
Camp-tastic and Clea Duvall was awesome as always.
Desert Hearts
I will always like. Period.
Check this out- http://www.myspace.com/marchinghome_documentary
Hoop skirts!! (Yes, I will shamelessly plug a friend's stuff. What of it?)
I'm completely with you on
I love "outside"!!! best
I love "outside"!!! best short ever!The Hunger and Daughters of
And the Sckraight reviewer says....
well, i may not have the "experience of lesbianism, but i do enjoy a lotta (well as much as there are now) gay movies...ya know, cuz i love to mix it up cuz im kewl like that haha
anyways, i kinda liked 'loving annabelle' until i read some of yalls negative reviews and i was like "whooa...theyre right" i guess ima sucker for great cinematography...but yeah that wack straight girl who told on their relationship was soooo random and lame that my breeder skin crawled haha..tha scenes jumped unsmoothly and the relationship was kinda quick. i kinda like the ending..it left me thinkin cuz i honestly was like "eww! leave that yound student alone!!" haha my bad, ya'll
aimee and jaguar was pretty good, yet i got SUPER sad cuz i jus felt the impending death so i jus cut it off early :(
i dunno whether it was high art or bound or somethin, but tha quality was like fuzzy and stuff so i was turned off quick and looked for somethin else
DEBS was greeeeat!!! soo funny, so campy, so modern, soo kewl
because im a cheerleader was beyond dumb..and i like camp so i knew that had to be bad- jeez it looked like tha budget for that movie was like 12 bucks!
fire- it was okay, kind of an open-ended ending...um nice to see women of color portrayed, i jus wanna know whats this fascination wit making a younger person fall for an older person all the time!
lost and delirious- pssh. i stopped halfway thru, plus i kept gettin the two lovers confused, they looked too much alike!
yall might kill me, but i liked kissing jessica stein-it was crazy funny, the ending looked like they forced jessica wit that guy tho
heavenly creatures- i love the movie up to the part that they kill that girls mommy- it always makes me wanna cry and i ALWAYS mute or change the channel at that part at the end
nina's heavenly delights?- um, alright. the acting was sub-par and geez did yall see how BAD that one girl (the one nina ended up wit) was dancin in the club. mann edit that stuff to make her look kewl!!
that summer or love movie- bleh. pretentious. and i dunno if im in the minority, but i'm a Christian and all that fake, fake, faker, [explicit] faker!! crap got on my nerves real quick. jus cus that chicks bro was weak and beat his sis up doesnt...ahhh i should jus stop while im ahead...AND both those girls were bout as crazy as i dunno why (yeah i know the heavenly creatures chicks were weird too but that movies better)
and this leaves....
FINGERSMITH---#1 movie....evaaaahhhrr lol best acting. great chemistry. lovely story. i love tha twist, it got me SO good when i saw it the first time. man, that movie was so kewl, i wanna watch it now
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It's funny how everyone
It's funny how everyone seems to agree that 99% of lesbian movies suck, but we don't agree on which ones are the offenders and which gems fall into the blessed 1%!
I adore Desert Hearts and think it's extremely well done. I mean, it has a little bit of a cheese factor, but it works. It certainly has as much plot as more recent, totally insipid films like Imagine You and Me and Loving Annabelle. Talk about undeserved hype.... I was stunned at how bad both of those movies were after all the good things I had heard.
On the other hand, I 'm not particularly excited about the DH sequel. Better to leave a classic alone and just make something new.
There are way too many bad lesbian movies to name. Usually they are just boring, and I forget about them immediately. But I have to give a shout out to a truly horrible movie I saw recently--A Family Affair. It will be a while before I forget how extremely painful it was to watch that film.
ain't that the truth....
...how 'bout a list of movies that fall into that 1% (on a majority basis, as we clearly will never reach a consensus!)
Based on what we've posted thus far, here's some suggestions for the 1%:
- Fingersmith
- Desert Hearts
- Fire
- Saving Face
- DEBS
(And thanks for reminding me of "Lost & Delirious" - I've attempted to block it out of my mind since I watched it in '02.)
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
yes!
a family affair was god-awful!!! I kept thinking, hmmm.... there's an obvious discrepancy between the physical attractiveness of the two ladies.... that little blonde one is kinda cute... but the lead looked like a fish with her eyes on the side of her head. It totally blew my mind how the fishwife had sooo many love interests...
then there was the fact that it kept preaching about gay issues like a dictionary - "PFLAG stands for blah blah blah"
D.E.B.S.
Okay, so my girlfriend and I rented DEBS the other week, based upon the rave reviews that it had been getting. I generally adore campy films, and we really wanted to like it...
But we didn't. Even taking into account that it was supposed to be lighthearted, silly fun, we found it pretty painful to watch. It wasn't especially clever in that campy way we were expecting. The actresses were, of course, nice to look at, but the material with which they had to work was pretty trite. The plot was jumpy and rushed, and character development was nonexistent (except, one can argue, for Lucy's turnaround at the end). Again, we knew that it was supposed to be a fun spoof of a spy-movie, but it lacked something. Most of those girls were not believable super-spies (even super-spies in training - I believed Austin Powers more than these ladies) and the uber-villian turned out to be a two-bit softy thief. What happened??!!
I know that people love this movie, and they must have some great reasons. Individual tastes aside, I'd like to hear more on what you all thought about DEBS. Feel free to pick apart my statements and argue your case. Maybe we'll rent it again if you can convince me that this is, in fact, a smart and sexy movie.
I admit....
...the only reason I enjoyed DEBS so much is because Jordana Brewster and Sarah Foster are **H*O*T**
True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written and writing what deserves to be read.
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