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Creativity & Violence

Whilst I agree with Stephen King's overall theme in this essay:

 http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036014,00.html?cnn=yes

I think I take exception to this part:

"For most creative people, the imagination serves as an excretory channel for violence"

Hmm. I write crime novels for a living (just about), and whilst I do use my imagination to create conflict, I don't fantasise about it.  Is this what he's implying? Or have a missed something? Maybe I'm become over-sensitive since someone told me that it was a sick thing to do as a career (and I don't write anything near as violent as say Tess Gerritsen, or Karin Slaughter).


Anonymous's picture

on excretory channels...

But the rest of his sentence was “[w]e visualize what we will never actually do,” and I have no doubt that for SK, that’s probably true, given the stuff he writes. 

 

I actually think the imagination serves as an excretory channel for all kinds of stuff.   The ability to channel your thoughts, feelings, and ideas results in works that may be violent, or fantastic, or erotic, or funny, or purely whimsical.  Sometimes I’m even surprised by the stuff that comes out of me!

 

Well, not really - it takes a lot to surprise me!

 

 

oh, and I don't think there's anything "sick" about writing crime novels!  Tho I am interested in what kind of research you do.

Rain's picture

huh

You being a writer is sick, as you use your imagination to create? Hmmm... So much for the sticks and stones argument...

I think the article is too general, too vague, and very narrow in focus all at once. I also think that the written word is broadly misunderstood, though reading is still popular, it is not nearly as popular as it once was. So, how about people who create violent video games, or tv shows, are they sick?

I am in the process of editing a novel for publication, and if one were to read it from this standpoint (that the article discusses) I am sure I would be locked up, or something. My stories tend to focus on women in brass bras, with big swords, going to war... The variations on the theme range from women with stone axes, to women with laser guns, but the theme is the same, powerful women, who will not hesitate to chop their enemies to pieces... it is a formula as old as writing, of course, and I am being simplistic about the stories when it comes to other content... but I dread to think of a world where only mild, politically correct, tepid writing is acceptable. Some deranged Ted Kazinski, or this Cho freak, and their manifestos, do not equate to writers imho, or anything that we write. Anyone with a pen can write, but making a craft of it, or an art of it, or doing it for the sake of it, are entirely different to that, imho anyway...

Rose's picture

oh no no

My imagination over active as it is I see the word excretory and think of something else entirely...I agree with thus spoke Zarathustra above, the imagination serves "as a channel for all kinds of stuff". In humble opinion the imagination is driven by our ability to conceptualise mental images that may or may not exist. Crime writing is an exceptional genre and I have read all of Karin Slaughter's novels and Patricia Cornwell's oh and Linda Fairstein..all are impeccably written and are not sick or deviant, they depict a world that we live in, with all its ugliness and euphoria. People shouldn't be so ready to dismiss a genre that, is complex, enthralling and utterly believable, as it depicts the gross as well as the sublime.
Anonymous's picture

It's a shame...

That authors who have become famous, such as Stephen King, or Patricia Cornwell, can make these assumptions and be taken seriously. Lucy, I haven't a doubt in my mind that the sentance applies to you, or to anyone else, either. My imagination serves me just about everything but violence, it's just not who I am!

I can understand how you'd be shocked at reading such a thing and a little out-raged. It was like when I was watching an interview with Patricia Cornwell and she gave her opinion about Tom Cruise, something along the lines of him being a fanatic, idiotic man, etc. Now whereas I may or may not agree, who is Patricia Cornwell to say that about someone? OH, I'm sorry, that's right, she's a published author whose made a lot of money. How foolish of me to forget that in this day and age, what someone famous says MUST be true! Pft to that!

Luce, you just keep writing girl, and let Stephen King believe whatever he wants! :)

Atrophia's picture

Are we really free to speak?

Well, who is anybody to give their opinion about anything?  Who are you, to be replying to this post, even?  And who am I to be replying to you (especially since this was originally posted a year ago)?  I am a citizen of a country that at least tries to pay lip service to the concept of free speech every once in a while.  I expect my fellow citizens to have the same purported rights as me, whether or not they are famous (and by extension I expect to have the same rights as them). Sometimes it may even be gossip-mongering, rather than the famous person specifically using their fame to express their beliefs; gossip mags love this stuff, because controversy is their bread and butter. Sure, sometimes people use their positions to further their free speech, but it is the media that propagates it, and it is consumers who support the media.  The context of Cornwell's statement, such that I can find online, was in relationship to the belief of Cruise and his religion that there is no such thing as psychiatric disorders, and expressed her concern that someone who needs medication might be influenced by that.  Anyone who has experienced relief from such disorders through medication is going to be at least slightly skeptical about such claims, if not downright volatile.  Cornwell suffers from bipolar disorder, and takes medication for it, so I would certainly deem her qualified, if such qualifications are necessary or pertinent to the discussion at all, to express her opinion about that.  It's just like when everybody got their panties in a twist over the Dixie Chicks expressing their opinion of Bush.  He's the President, right?  The President of their country, right?  I think anybody has the right to have their own opinions about their own government, and should have the right to express those opinions, or else what does having free speech even mean anymore?  It's a shame she felt like she had to, or was made to, apologize.  Now as far as Stephen King and this comment goes, I feel like it was taken slightly out of context from reading the article.  He was not saying that the imagination only produces violence.  I believe that is precisely the reason he used the term "excretory", because violence, at least in real life, is ugly, and many creative people use their works as vehicles to carry things that would horrify them in real life, but make a great story.  I read it as other things come from the imagination, but violence, specifically, is "excreted" from it.  He was talking about the Virginia Tech student's writings, if that clarifies anything.
Shinigami Shimai's picture

If that were true that

If that were true that people would need to hide from me for the things I write about are clearly the sign of an unstable mind. Actually I am slightly mad and I admit it for all of us creative types are always walking the typerope of sanity and madness am I right?

Honestly, even though I write some rather ghastly morbid stories that does not really make me the violent sort. Actually I'm the least violent person around and am known for keeping my temper no matter what the situation is. What I am is a morbidly curious type that likes to dive into the deepest parts of the human mind. Writing about peoples greatest fears and drawing them out on paper.

Anyways, I'm just saying what others have already stated. That just because we have the ability to imagine the most gruesome of things does not make us violent. Now if we went out and acted upon those things we wrote about we would have to begin to worry.

jaa ne

Kat