Stieg Larsson, Lisbeth Salander, and The Millennium Trilogy
Lesbian and bisexual characters sell.
If you haven’t picked up one of Larsson’s books yet, you’re in the minority. He was the world’s second-best selling author last year (behind The Kite Runner’s Khaled Hosseini), and well over 12 million copies of his book have been sold worldwide. Three million of the books have been sold in Sweden, a country with only 9 million people.
Keep those stats in mind the next time someone suggests mainstream audiences will never accept queer characters.
The popularity of the stories and the characters — including the bisexual Lisbeth and the lesbian Miriam — doesn’t end with the books. According to Wikipedia, the already-released Swedish movie based on Larsson’s first novel was the most popular Swedish film in history. What’s more, The Guardian reports George Clooney, Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt are interested in playing the male lead, Mikael Blomkvist, in the projected U.S. version of the movie.
There’s no word yet on which women might be interested in playing Lisbeth in the U.S. version (Natalie Portman, anyone?), but a few people you may have heard of are reportedly interested in directing: Quentin Tarantino, Ridley Scott and Martin Scorsese.
It's already been made into a movie in Scandanavia, with Noomi Rapace playing Lisbeth.

Men are creating some of the best queer characters.
Whedon created Buffy, Tara and Willow, to name a few; Terry Moore created Katchoo; Rob Tapert created Xena; and now there’s Larsson with Lisbeth and Miriam. Clearly, many — though certainly not all — of the best lesbian and bisexual characters are being created by men.
Why is that the case? It may well be that female writers aren’t getting an equal shot at publication or promotion, or it could be that the best female writers are choosing to write about other topics. Laurie R. King has openly admitted she was encouraged by her publisher to focus on her Sherlock Holmes-related mysteries, rather than the less popular Kate Martinelli mysteries, which feature a lesbian protagonist.
Larsson wasn’t immune to the lure of money; in fact, he hoped his novels would provide a retirement fund for him and his partner of more than 30 years, Eva Gabrielsson. But he also wrote three books before submitting them to a publisher, working on his own and presumably without the distractions and pressures of the publishing industry. He could have played it safe with Lisbeth’s sexuality, but instead it appears he was so caught up in creating a compelling character that he ignored any potential drawbacks.
"[Lisbeth] became like a third person in our house," Gabrielsson told Newsweek. "Stieg would be up all night writing, and when I woke up he would say, 'You wouldn't believe what Salander just did!' It was like a menage à trois."
Feminism is still alive and kicking.
Larsson’s novels are unabashedly feminist in their tone and message. His preferred title for the first novel, Men Who Hate Women, says it all: Larsson, often through Lisbeth, indicts institutions that allow or facilitate the abuse of women, as well as the sick, pathetic men who carry out the abuse.
While most thrillers focus on the hapless female victims — the bloodied, abused and murdered girls and women we feel sorry for and ache to protect or avenge — Larsson focuses much of his attention on dissecting the Big Bad: the men who abuse. His characters talk with johns and sex traffickers and rapists, revealing the men to be, variously, dumb, deluded, evil and pitiful creatures.
With their weak excuses and sputtering calls for mercy, it’s ultimately the abusers, not the abused, whose mental anguish and personal failings Larsson lays bare.
In his marvelous, and decidedly feminist, restructuring of the traditional crime novel, it’s not just that the abusers get what’s coming to them — it’s that, often, it’s a woman who delivers the final blow.




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WOW!
No,no,no!
Please not a US remake of the films!
1) The two originals released so far are great as they are and runs all over the world. It would be an insult to the directors and actors to do a remake.
2) The silly rules for films in US would probably distort the story beyond recognition.
3) A main character in the books and the films is the city of Stockholm. The culture and politics of Sweden are also important ingredients in the plot.
I´m with you!!
Noomi Rapace is perfect as Lisbeth, and although I prefer the books, the swedish film is quite good.
And a fact: I work in a cinema here in Spain, and the movie has been showing for 4 month already!!!! and the people still come to watch it!! its been far more time than lots of US movies, that says something of this movie!!
uhm
i'm wondering..those anyone know if we ca find this book in Mxico??? besides ebay thats not very usual to me..??/
"La música no tiene fronteras, pero sí un final común: el amor y la rebeldía. " Chavela Vargas
busca el libro por el autor
busca el libro por el autor y el primero en español se llama Los hombres que no aman a las mujeres. en wikipedia sale toda la información que necesitas bajo el nombre del autor. hope you love them cause they are the best books since the Potter series!
*to define is to limit*
Can't wait to read this
Must. Read. Immediately.
Must. Read. Immediately.
Honestly, even The Guardian's description, while revoltingly typical of mainstream media, just makes me want to read it more.
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes / And other science facts / Then repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, / I should really just relax."
Yes!! =)
I can't believe AE is featuring my favorite books (I also brought them up in an older thread about the greatest novels of the last 25 years)!! To all people out there who haven't read them, yet! Go, read them! NOW!!
Well, enough of the ecstasy: I'm almost done with reading the last one of the series, in German it's called "forgiveness" but they all had names that were very different from the Swedish original (also from English). The movie's supposed to hit screens on October 1st and I'm definitely gonna go and see it.
About the American remake: Natalie Portman? Seriously? Come on... if it's just about the figure (Salander's supposed to look like a 14 year-old) why not take Keira Knightley? Wait, maybe that's just my little personal weakness for KK... Please find an actress that has that certain edge to her that Salander has!
I have to back Caisa up
I have to back Caisa up here: No US remake, please!
No offense to the US, but Hollywood has a way of screwing up foreign films, when they try to re-do it. Just let it be. You don't see Sweden making an Swedish remake of a huge American movie.
I realize, it's probably a lost cause, but whenever they get to the casting, they should really pick actors that aren't household names. It would make the movie a lot more believable.
I love these books!
I devoured The Girl Who Played With Fire as soon as it was released in the U.S. this summer. Lisbeth is definitely one of the most interesting fiction characters I've come across.
I have to agree with everyone that an American movie version of the books would probably suck, given the complexity of the story and its roots in modern Swedish culture. (And the feminist and lesbian/bisexual aspects of the story would probably be minimized, if not completely dropped.)
Stieg Larsson
Absolutely with you on that. I ve read all 3 books (2 engl., 3rd in german) They are as already mentionned a few times magnificent in their story telling, character portrayals, media exposure .... too bad this great guy had to go way too early!
Have seen the movie too, Noomi Rapace is the perfect fit for Lisbeth, there s no question about that.
Love as you whilt
Stieg Larsson
I LOVEEEEEEE The Millennium Trilogy! He's a very popular writer in Denmark and the movie "The Girl Who Played With Fire" hit the screens september 18th. I'm going to see it tomorrow and I can't wait....
1,9 million of the books have been sold in Denmark, a country with only 5,5 million people. Stieg Larsson's way of writing is very fascinating.
I don't believe an American version can be as complex and compelling as the original movie. There is only ONE Noomi Rapace, who can play the part of Lisbeth salander!
Lisbeth Salander is super
Lisbeth Salander is super badass!
I've read of a more fascinating character than her, she really doesn't take any shit from people and I love it. Also, I just love the fact that none of Stieg Larsson's female characters are damsels in distress. The men actually get into more trouble than the women do.
The third book in the series comes out Oct. 1 here in Australia, you'll definitely find me at the bookshop getting my copy.
I agree with everybody else here, NO US VERSION OF THE MOVIE PLEASE! I don't have enough faith in the US blockbuster scene to believe they'll be able to adapt the story well. Plus, I've watched Swedish films with English subs, and they're much better that way. I wouldn't mind say, a US production company picking up the film to rerelease it, but no remakes please and thanks!
Books vs Movies
I'm currently reading the third book of the Millennium trilogy and I have to say: that's probably the main cause for me not getting great results during the September exam session! :D
Lisbeth is probably the most fascinating female character I've ever read of in a thriller book! You can't but sympathize with her and somehow encourage her actions, even the most shocking (and violent).
As for the movies...
I'm always skeptical with adaptations from novels (especially thrillers).
A book gives such a detailed and deep analysis of the character's thoughts and feelings that it's impossible to bring that on screen; and reading makes us picture ambients and situations which are unique for each one of us, therefore I often find myself disappointed or baffled when I get to see the director's own interpretation which is obviously different from mine...
An Hollywood remake of a movie which is ALREADY inspired by another work??
I think that's just too much!Larsson
I just saw the 2 movie
ooh really? excellent
ooh really? excellent haha. I have a mega, mega crush on her. She is sooo my type.
Now I just have to wait for the movies to come to Canada.
We should start a petition that she be cast in any American remakes that they make. lol.
I think if Tarantino does it, he'd likely keep the language swedish and so he could use her.
Lisbeth Salander
Lisbeth is one of the most interesting characters i have ever read about. You just wanna know more about here, what she is planing, how she will react. She is the reason you just wanna read more. She is a masterpeice made by Steig.
I saw the first movie Män som hatar kvinnor (The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo) two times at the cinema, this weekend i saw the second movie. And Noomi Rapace just is devine as Lisbeth. She really embodys how i imagined her when i was reading the books.
I don't wan't any US remake of this movie. Please! I don't think that it will be that good, honestly.
http://ikkegoesblogging.blogspot.com/
Yay!
Actually
Actually, the original Swedish title of "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" is "Men That Hate Women", but as far as I know the title has been radically changed for release of the book in all countries outside of Scandinavia, because it wouldnt sell as well. I guess. In Scandinavia it's not as scandalous of a title.
Not in Spain
thats just stupid - to not
thats just stupid - to not go allll the way.
men that didnt love women - kinda emplies they love men or animals or something like that.
Maybe it sounds stupid in
Maybe it sounds stupid in english, but in spanish makes sense, because we have diferent words for Love, and the word they used is "amar", you use this for people.
Anyway, I didn´t make the translation, and I didn´t say I like it, but I prefer this, than changing all the titlle to "the girl with the dragon tattoo" in fact i will always defend to don´t touch the tittle of movies, books, etc
si lo sabia pero todavia es
Pero bueno, eso de cambiar
Pero bueno, eso de cambiar los títulos es algo que siempre pasa... a mi personalmente no me gusta nada, todabía me acuerdo que la peli de "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" le pusieron como título "olvidate de mi".... dios eso si que es un crimen!!! yo estoy toltamente en contra de este tipo de cambios, y tampoco entiendo por que no han dejado el título por "los hombres que odiaban a las mujeres" pero bueno es lo que hay, prefiero un cambio ligero a que lo cambien del todo.
Tampoco están tan mal escritos, es novela negra, las hay mejores, pero no están nada mal, está claro que la saga se a hecho famosa por que el escritor murió así de una, pero tiene unos personajes muy interesantes, y si, es bastante feminista.
I love the book series.
I love the book series. :)
I got the first book read it and almost ran out to find the next two books.
As most people already has said .
Don't make a US remake.
The Swedish movies are the best.
See them when you get the chance.
I am going to se the second movie on Monday. =)
Hm, that's quite
Hm, that's quite interesting...thing is, that my grannie told my mom a few weeks ago she should check out Stieg Larssons books, because they're so great. I had no idea what they were about. lol
Anyways, I've seen the preview for the movie, which is gonna be released in Germany soon (or has been already...). I think I'll definitely check it out, 'cause that lead girl is just hot. :D
By the way: What's up with Americans re-doing perfectly fine movies with their own actors? Why not just release the Scandinavian version of the movie in the US?
OMG i love this series! i
OMG i love this series! i already have the third book (the girl who kicked the hornets' nest) preordered. If i remember correctly i will get it 5th oct!!! cant wait..
I have to say my all time favourite scene from the books is teh interrogation of Miriam. her answers to the inapropriate questions are simply brilliant.
BTW, i think you missed one strong female character from the second book: the lady cop (cant remember the name) but she's awesome.
I'm dying to watch the
I'm dying to watch the swedish version of the movie!! I don't want a remake made in the US tho!
Absolutely love the books!
@ nixawme: The female cop's name from the second book is Sonja Modig.
Oh my god!!! I LOOOOVED the
Oh my god!!! I LOOOOVED the books! Read them all in 5 days. couldnt put them down!
No remake please - the american versions always suck.
I cannot wait to see who they got to play Sonja Modig (cant find it imdb) :D
Lisbeth Salander kicks ass :P
A minor spoiler
In the second movie Lisbeth smiles, once.
BTW If any of you should find yourself in Stockholm send me a mess and I'll give you a "Millenium tour" around Söder.
Amazing!
These books really are amazing. I read all three in a week. You really should read the books before watching the movies. While the movies are really good, they're nothing compared to Larssons books.
I just saw the second movie last weekend and loved it! The lesbian sex scene was really intense and great. Someone else already said it was the best lesbian sex scene she had ever seen and I have to agree. Noomi Rapace is increbly hot and the only possible Lisbeth I can imagine! Please, NO US VERSION! Why on earth couldn't you just read the subtitles?
I just finished reading the
I just finished reading the second book, and I'll buy the third one as soon as I can. I haven't been so excited about books since Harry Potter :D I've also seen the first movie, but I think the books are better... And I'm so in love with Lisbeth <3
I have had a little crush on
I have had a little crush on Lisbeth Salander since I read the first book of Millenium-trilogy. Right now I'm reading the second book!
Noomi Rapace is great on playing Lisbeth in the films. :) I have seen the first film already, and I'm going to see the second at Saturday.
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And life is always moving like love moves
at its own will
my question to you then would be
why do you sit so silent?
Why a US remake?
Okay, I realise that being a Scandinavnian I am clearly biased...
Not because I speak Swedish, I don't even fully understand it - simply because I'm used to watching movies in other languages than my own and having to settle for Danish subtitles, tops.
And honestly, I'd choose subtitle over remakes (or dubbing!) anytime, because it gives you a movie universe that actually makes sense (aka if the location is Paris, then people speak French, not English with a French accent).
So even though I adore Natalie Portman etc. I just don't get why an American remake is even necessary when a brilliant Swedish original is already out there - could someone please explain that to me...?
The sequel is already hitting the Danish cinemas ... can't believe we're actually ahead, for a change :-) It's supposed to be great, so go get your hands on it!
News to me
I feel like I've been living under a rock. These books sound SO interesting. There's nothing better than reading a book with good, developed characters, and this article has convince me to definitely check these books out.
Excellent series so far
I have read the first 2 books and cannot wait for the next. It is thrilling, dark, almost diabolical at times, and extremely addictive. It is a must for any thriller lover.
The movie, although it would bring the story to the unreading masses, is probably not going to give a fair representation of Lisbeth or Miriam. Call me skeptical, but the American Lisbeth Salander is most likely going to lose a lot of her bi-ness.
You have these?! Excellent,
You have these?! Excellent, I was going to buy them but now I think I'll just borrow yours:)
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Callie: You don't even like sandwiches!
Arizona: But I like the girl who has the sandwiches.
Jip, I do. You're welcome to
Jip, I do. You're welcome to borrow them when I confiscate them back from my sister.
Lisbeth is, along with Smoky
Lisbeth is, along with Smoky Barret, my most beloved heroine. She is so strange, and cool, and flawed.
I saw the 2. movie couple of days back, and I have to say that it wasn't quite as good as the first one. But I do think that part of that has to do with the fact that the second book is more difficult to transform into a movie.
I know that this has already been said, but I too would not like to see a US remake. I don't think that Hollywood would ever allow such a real and hot lesbian sex scene. And I think we can all agree that, that would be a big loss. :P
U.S. movie
I can see I'm in the tiniest of minorities, but I'd be happy to see a U.S. version of the books. Don't yell at me!
I agree with many of the points made by others about the negative possibilities, but I think 1) it's possible (though, agreed, not likely) the U.S. version would be good, or at least not bad; 2) once the U.S. version is made, they'll probably release the original movies in the U.S., which they likely won't do before then; 3) we need more depictions of queer women, and even if it isn't an ideal depiction, having amazing and strong queer women onscreen is always important, and seeing George Clooney or Brad Pitt in a love scene with a bisexual woman (who later is with a woman) would be groundbreaking stuff; and 4) if the portrayal of Lisbeth is really bad or censored in the U.S. version, it'll create a huge fuss that will open up the conversation (again) about homophobia in American film and TV — that's a good and important conversation for us to keep having.
I love the books too and would hate to see a bad film made, but at least in this case there are apparently already good film versions of the books out there (just not in the States). Adding another film version? They may blow it, but they may not, and either way I'd go see it.
I love Stieg Larsson and I
I love Stieg Larsson and I love these books. Read all three in a row and I really wish they would also publish Larsson's manuscripts of books 4 and 5. But I don't see that happen anytime soon :(
Now I'm impatiently waiting for the film releases in Germany. The cast is perfect as far as I can see it from the pictures and trailer. Noomi Rapace looks exactly like I imagined Lisbeth.
btw, other great women in the books were Sonja Modig and Monica Figuerola. Can't wait to find out who's playing them.
Oh, and pleeease! No US remake!!! Seriously.
I actually received 'The
I actually received 'The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo' for free a couple weeks ago, but haven't really picked it up. Definitely think I will now.
Btw, thanks for the fantastic article. I love seeing great female/queer characters/stories from male writers.
I'VE READ THEM ALL AND THEY'RE AWSOME!!
hey I'm spanish and here in spain they've already released all of them and i sincerily recomend them to EVERYONE!!
they are so intense and breath-taken! i read the 3 of them in two months, plus salanders character is incredible!!
READ THEM!!
about Stieg Larsson's girlfriend
Did you know Stieg Larsson's live-in partner, Eva Gabrielsson, inherited nothing from her loved one simply because they weren't married? All his wealth went to his brother and father directly , including rights of The Millennium Series. Here are a few quotes from a website supporting her:
Eva Gabrielsson lived with Stieg Larsson for 30 years (they worked together for 32 years).
She was there when he wrote his three (almost four) novels in the Millennium series.
She was there when he received death threats from ultra-nationalist groups.
She was there when he delivered his three manuscripts to Norstedts Publishing in Stockholm.
She was there when Stieg Larsson realized that his books were going to be a success.
She was there when they planned together to publish 10 books in the Millennium series.
She was there when they planned together how they would divide up the income from the success of the books.
She was a significant contributor to Stieg Larsson's work on the Millennium series.
I personally find the way she was treated goes absolutely against what Mr. Larsson believed.:(
D:
We could have had 10 books of the Millenium series!??!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
I'm so crushed right now!
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo tough going!
I had heard a lot about these books and read them over the summer. I have to say, I found the first one, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, hard to get into. The plot is quite slow moving until the end and the focus is on journalist Mikael Blomkvist a lot more. However, I absolutely loved The Girl Who Played with Fire - even if it does start with Lisbeth getting a boob job! Wonder if they would put falsies on an actress or ignore that one??!
We do get more on Lisbeth and Miriam, and many other characters too, but the ending is a HUGE cliffhanger and I can't wait until (I think) October until the final book is published in English.
I had heard of a Hollywood remake, but reading the book could not imagine anyone in the role. I think if they do make it, we'll get a big male lead and an unknown to play Lisbeth. The hunt will be on!
The Swedish film really should be getting an English subtitles release shouldn't it??
That's the best review of
That's the best review of those two books I've read. They are wonderful,can't put 'em down books. It's true, Lisbeth Salander is the most memorable character to come along in a long time. It's tragic Stieg Larsson isn't here to see how popular they are.
HOLLYWOOD - DON'T WRECK THE MOVIE. I love the Swedish version.
3 things: First, I read
3 things:
First, I read the books and liked Salander very much. She's an ass-kicking female hero. But I'm sorry, I found the plots in the books too simple, sorry, sorry. But read them anyway, Salander is so good.
Second the first film was great. Noomi Rapace is Lisbeth Salander. A perfect cast. She gives energy to the whole movie.
Third. The new movie (second book) has been having great critics here in Denmark. And the only sexscene in the movie is a lesbian sexscene and it is said to be a very good one. The focus is on Lisbeth and not so much on Nyquist womanizing talents. So there's a lot to look forward to.
The trailer:
http://www.seoghoer.dk/Nyheder/FilmOgTv/trailer%20pigen%20der%20legede.aspx
I read the first book some