When lesbians are obsessive killers, and other boring movie plots

Personally, what is it exactly that you want? Another romantic comedy about lesbians? another heart felt drama? Another side character to flesh out the plot? Do you think that the incredible multitude of male killers, rapist, homicidal maniacs, vampires complain that they are most often depicted as evil and women as victims, or the feminists out there who concentrate only on the fact that when there is a female killer it is saying strong women are crazy. How about we view this as a real depiction of the fact that different people regardless of gender or sexuality are the aggressors of violence. That there are people who are lesbians that kill people, rape people, hurt people, being a lesbian doesn't make you all of a sudden a fluffy puppy who is a sweet heart. Why should film not depict this?

That'd be my pick. Dench is indeed creepy, especially since she's the craziest one and still I find myself siding with her... jinkies huh?

I would rather the lesbians be the killers than the victims any day. Unfortunately, the lesbian killers are usually also offed in the end, but at least they take a lot of people out with them.

I find it odd to compare Notes on a Scandal to movies about killers--she's at most a stalker. But at least she gets away with it and escapes the "evil lesbian must be punished" ending.

Creepiest evil lesbian film EVER! Its so disturbing, and yet again, french!!!

A part of me wanted to watch High Tension, just because I thought that Cecile de France and her cute blonde haircut was really lovely looking. HOWEVER when it came to watching the actual trailer and a few snippets of the film here and there I realised that there was NO WAY that I was going to even try sitting through this film, no matter how lovely looking the French girl in it was. This film, from just the small bits that I previewed of it, left me feeling disturbed.  

that I actually liked Notes on a Scandal?? :P

I loved the fact that lesbian portrays in films are finally humans, with all their faults and darky secrets, our Rachel-Luce and so on are cool but at the end u just leave the theatre feeling happy and forget about it in the next hour..with Dench it was almost a trauma that lasted for weeks hehehe..i kinda prefer this deeper lasting feeling that I only get with real provocative drama..but  I guess I'm just a crazy sadic girl!

Besides, why almost all lesbians take themselves so seriously? What happened with a broader perspective and wider scheme of options? Aren't we the epitome of openness, tolerance and acceptance? Why do we have to be so closed minded when it comes to ourselves??  ^-^

Daniela 

 

No love for Heavenly Creatures?

I would not mind a lesbian-as-killer (or lesbian-as-villian/antagonist) movie if it was well-written and/or acted. I didn't hate 'Notes on a Scandal'. I thought Judi Dench's character was complex, albeit creepy. Same with 'Heavenly Creatures' - horrific ending, but at the same time, I found myself hoping the girls would go on to find happiness...or some kind of peace.

On the flip side, a film like 'Basic Instinct' annoys me to no end with its plot holes and over-the-top acting. 

 

that was creepy but interesting

All I want is more female heroines and romantic storylines... I'm so tired of sick and unfortunate lesbians... I don't like the kind of movies that make you want to cry!! I'm not a serial killer, mad or sick girl!!!! Pleeeeaseeee!!! I want happy endings!!!!

From BCN with love

Have you all seen Naked Killer? It's one of our favorites! It is one of the most ridiculous movies you will ever see.

I know "High Tension"'s lesbian killer plot was disturbing to some and generally bad to LGBT visibility but...

Cecile de France was just so freakin' hot in it. She even had a "self-pleasure" scene. x_x

I probably sound very superficial right now... Damn hormones.

 

 

and made me laugh---yes, I'm still recovering from the no-les Britney (right).....

That Dame Dench played a very creepy part for sure. Didn't see the rest, but they all look scary, which is not my cup of tea.

But I wanted to mention this: I accidentally stumbled on a book (audio version) by Tami Hoag called Alibi Man, and decided to give it a listen even though the suspense/detective genre is not my cup of tea. Lo and behold, after enduring superficial, cliche characters and a protagonist I couldn't care less about, when I finally neared the end all clues started to point to the lesbianish girl who was apparently in love with the victim. I thought no, it can't be, and sure enough she was the killer and ended up killing herself.

"The big, bad, murderous lesbian" -- an old, too well-known movie stereotype.

I vaguely remember films from the 60's and 70's (and 80's) that had that theme.

The one that has stuck in my head for the longest time and of which I have the strongest memory (because it was so well done as a movie per se, yet made me sick to my stomach regarding the cliché of "lesbian = sicko") is Heavenly Creatures.

I hope that eventually this stupid stereotype will die off, but am afraid that Hollywood will always find a way to implement it as a plot device when running out of ideas. ^^

and it hates trendsetters, unless it can make them money.  Look how female FBI agents are played. Their all cold and distant for the most part. A few exceptions? Yes. I love Fringe and Anna Torv's character. Yet, we still get the same crap. We need to be the innovators and create characters we want to see.