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"I Kissed A Girl" version 2.0

Back in 1995, there were questions about Jill Sobule's sexuality. How could there not be? She released a hit song about kissing another girl (aptly titled, "I Kissed a Girl.") But Sobule admitted the song was simply a song, and there wasn't any truth to the lyrics.

Newcomer Katy Perry released a single of the same name, but it's a completely different track. It's still poppy, and it's still not true. Perry has told the press, "It's about the magical beauty of a woman." Hmm, I didn't really get that from "No, I don't even know your name / It doesn't matter / You're my experimental game / Just human nature / It's not what, good girls do." How flattering! Lesbians love to be science projects.

Entertainment Weekly asked Sobule how she felt about Perry's version, and she said her fans are actually more annoyed than she is:

"Some think it’s more of a Girls Gone Wild thing than anything shocking or empowering to true gay feelings."

Sobule's song was about kissing a friend, and how she was glad she had. "It was just like kissing me / but better," she sang, and going on to sing she'd do it again. (Not that we need her validation, but I'll take that over Perry shrugging her same-sex kiss as a bad girl's night on the town.)

Perry's song has gotten a lot of attention, but Sobule doesn't mind: it's given her attention by default.

"Maybe I'll write a third 'I Kissed a Girl' for fun," she said. "It will be about how I kissed her, left the dull boyfriend, got gay-married in California, and really no one gave a s--t. Katy Perry's song is a kind of catchy party song, although I will admit that I do smile when a critique mentions my version in a more favorable light. Is that wrong?”

Is Katy Perry cute enough that maybe you don't care? They're probably both going to milk it for all it's worth, so go ahead: steal our thunder. At least we're the ones who get to keep kissing girls. We are now taking applications for our next faux lesbian singer/songwriter. Care to apply?

shygurl99's picture

I have to agree with Sobule's fans

I don't see the appeal of Perry's song at all. It just makes it seem like women kiss other women just for attention from men.The song itself ,to me, isn't that good anyway. It's just not my type of music.

Perks's picture

i love jill! and isnt she...

i thought she was bi?

aggges ago i read an interview she did for an AIDS magazine n she said something along the lines of "when im with a woman i feel like very much a part of the gay community, and when im with a man i still feel like a part of the gay community" but she basicly said she was bi. but i dunno.

maybe sum1 should google it??

xxxxxxx 

Anonymous's picture

I love the song!

I know some people are angry by the song whether it's conservatives complaining that it promotes homosexuality or lesbians who think it enforces lesbian stereotypes, but I don't think the song is bad. I find it hilarious when I see my straight friends belting out "I kissed a girl and I liked it!"

I think the songs might make the idea of kiss a girl less threatening or "disgusting'" to heterosexual girls. Sure it's in the context of experimentation and being bad, but I think it could make the idea of kissing a girl no big deal. Some girls like kissing girls, others don't. And even if you kiss another girl it doesn't mean you’re a lesbian, that is what the song is saying to me. This song could have both a positive and a negative impact. Go on to itunes and read the reviews. Some are very homophobic while others are really supportive and even challenge other people's homophobic views. So perhaps we are making some progress.

oh, by the way...I kissed a girl and I liked it!

chismes's picture

I Kissed a Girl

I'm totally with you on your first comment.

When I'm sitting in my group of friends, and they start yelling, "I kissed a girllll and I liked itttt...the taste of her cherry chapsticckk," I'm trying so hard to keep a straight face (literally).

 

Katie's picture

Well said! Exactly how I

Well said! Exactly how I feel but I didnt know how to put it into my comment. But no worries, you did it for me ;)
JinxofLilith's picture

It's Funny!

It's funny the first time I heard of that song, I started to think about the first time I kissed a girl...and yes she had on cherry chapstick...and yes I liked it; and we stayed together for three months. That song will always remember me of her.
Maritza's picture

Like this song :)

Kathy's song is for those who have been in a similar situation. She kissed a girl and she liked it...there was no commitment, just fun. Is it wrong to write a catchy song about it? She's not the first straight female to wonder what it would be like. Nor will she be the last.

Sometimes consenting adults kiss and nothing comes out of it, only a fun shared experience and lovely memory. It just is what it is.

 

 

 

Anonymous's picture

Ok I was trying to say the

Ok I was trying to say the exact same thing you said in my comment, but yours was better put. hahaha...:)~ Sometimes a kiss is just a kiss and nothing but fun.
The It Girl's picture

I like Katy's song

I like Katy's song. You have to remember that both her parents are pastors. Like she says "It's not what, good girls do", I think its tongue in cheek. But yes she is very cute.
BQ's picture

bi

I was just going to post the same thing...she's bi.

http://www.aumag.org/coverstory/September05cover.html

Quote:
“I have been involved for over twenty years with men and women,” Sobule confesses with the same warmth of tone and honesty found in her music. Though she hates using the word bisexual (“It always sounds like I’d fuck anyone,” she jokes), she resigns herself to the term. “When I’m involved with a woman, I feel gay,” she says. “When I’m involved with a man, though, I still feel connected to my gay community. It is somehow embedded in me because it’s been part of my life for so long.”

Personally, I don't mind the song.

 

BQ's picture

oops

oopers, this was supposed to go under Perks message.
Perks's picture

cheers :P

thanks 4 the link!

been wanting to read that again 4 a while.

xxxxxx 

Sister of the OBSSE's picture

I really wanted to hate this song.

It's loud and catchy and dammit if I haven't come to love it. (Possibly because of the Callica video made with that song?...)

Usually what I do to get over the bad lesbian politics is to replace "boyfriend" with "girlfriend," and then the song is about a philanderer and their reasons for cheating.

Not much better, I know, but it's an interesting twist, at least.

Fizz's picture

O my god! This song is

O my god! This song is amazing! I just absolutely love electro-pop and Kate Perry has a surprisingly 'deep' and powerful voice which I wasn't expecting, but it's kinda sexy (!)
<3 Bridget's picture

Katy's version

Is insulting, but it's catchy... I'm ashamed that I have it on my iPod lol.
Bridget's picture

Same here. I'm not a big

Same here. I'm not a big fan of the song, but it's SO catchy!

Oh well, off my iPod, and whenever it's on the radio, I'm changing the station. It's not empowering at all, and it probably does the opposite of Sobule's version.

táméleispiachduh's picture

I like it

I like it, no matter how much I wish i didn't

I know it's wrong and it's a huge turn in the wrong direction (visibility wise)

But I still like it.....It's just so damn catchy!

Kaebee's picture

love the song, katy is hot.

I really like Katy Perry's song, it's fun. No need to be offended. 
Danygirl's picture

love it

at first i considered being offended because of a couple of the lyrics

 but then i realized its much more celebratory than anything else. i mean nobody can find anything apologetic about the lyrics- it really is about liking kissing girls. and lets be honest, who doesnt love that?

living in virginia, a pretty conservative state, i love hearing it on mainstream radio and rocking out to it with my friends of all sexualities. it makes me smile its a fun jam. 

Jules's picture

the mormons were right about something.

katy perry's song pisses me off so much.  its even worse that its catchy!  you know, i learned all about this in church.  the devil sneaks bad lyrics into catchy beats to corrupt the youth of god.  katy perry sings horrible words but its just so much fun to sing!!!!  and everyone likes it and she's totally hot.  i want to hate her so much but i JUST CANT.  which makes me hate her more.

 

 ps.  i only go to church because mom makes me.  :(

but i guess the lessons learned can be applied in other, less heavenly, situations.

ClaireA's picture

At least...

"At least we're the ones who get to keep kissing girls."

 Right on!!! 

MissEarlGrey's picture

Can't help it

I can't help it, i just like. Its catchy, its fun and no big deal. I wanted to hate it, especially with Melinda Lo superbeb review, but its just fun. Pesronally i think "you're so gay" way more annoying/insulting. Beside she managed to made the video of I kiss a girl absolutly not lesbian exploitive. There girls dancing. And zoom on her. And it finishes with her in bed with a black man. Theres absolutly nothing saphic. She could have played on it yet managed to make one of the most boring video i have ever seen.
donielle's picture

i dont care i love it

i really dont care about the fact she not empowering lesbians with the song. I think it pretty damn catchy. Its just like watching tv shows where women kiss other women for fun. People are always gone do it to get publicity
Katie's picture

I personally like the song

I personally like the song and the artist. Part of me wonders if the people that are honestly offended by it are just looking for things to be offended by. Its a catchy song sung by a pretty girl *shrug* what is not to like? :) 

Besides, I just get the picture of some prudeish straight girl who just cannot help herself singing along in the car " I kissed a girl and I liked it" and it gives me giggles.

 

Lemon's picture

The song is awesome

I personally don't find the lyrics offensive at all. I actually preordered her album a few weeks ago. She hasn't done anything to make me dislike her yet (not even the Ur So Gay song) so I hope it (the album) does well.
NamesnotAnnie's picture

It's catchy and she's hot

I agree with most of the comments. It's catchy and it's about experimentation. Not the most progressive song ever but it gets people talking. That's already something, right?

Mmm Katy Perry's hot. And I'm not entirely convinced she never actually kissed a girl but whatever.

I happen to enjoy Sobule's version as well. Actually when I first heard of the song I thought it was a cover. That would have been sweet.

Em's picture

My FEMALE friends and I

My FEMALE friends and I will sing this in my PURPLE TRUCK while on our way to a tournament in our SOFTBALL UNIFORMS. And we'll blare it as loud as it will go and roll down all of the windows. I think we like to shock people a little too much.

I don't see it as really offensive (at least not offensive as Tila Tequila)... it's more fun and lighthearted to me. Plus, it has millions of girls around the world singing about kissing other girls--that's always a good thing! When you can have a bunch of straight women singing about kissing other women while still comfortable and not disgusted/ashamed, it is always a postive. I thank Katy Perry.

You can't shake hands with a clenched fist.
[Indira Ghandi]

Chrissy's picture

I Love this song..

My oldest brother actually sent the song file to me before he left to Iraq, and i loved it instantly.  Its catchy and it says "Hey, you can kiss a girl and its not a bad thing."  My whole family loves it, I walked out to the living room and there my mom is singing it and ironing, it was awesome.
chasingaamy's picture

I don't know ...

It is catchy (that seems to be the popular description) and Katy is pretty damn cute (I think she looks like Zooey Deschanel, which is a very good thing!) I just can't figure out whether she is trying to be campy/tongue-in-cheek or whether it is exploiting lesbian sexuality. If you watch the video for the song (which is girls in lingerie and fishnet stockings having pillow fights) it sort of seems like the typical male lesbian fantasy, except that no kissing actually happens (which is kind of weird, isn't it?)

Malinda Lo wrote a great little piece about this a couple weeks ago. I think it was in the Best Lesbian Week Ever. She said that the song seems to imply that "kissing another girl is only something you'd do after you lose control of your decision-making faculties." It may be awesome to have everyone going around singing "I kissed a girl" but I think that the underlying message does matter.

I think the point is that this is not a song for gay girls. That's probably what makes me have mixed feelings about it. There's nothing wrong with having a song about a straight girl that gets drunk and kisses another girl, but unless those two girls then ditch their boyfriends and go off happily into the sunset together, I don't think that song should be the next lesbian anthem. Malinda christened Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl" as a theme song for bicurious girls. I guess bicurious girls need to be represented too, but it seems like bicuriosity is often exploited because it is exciting but also safe in the end.

Dorothy Snarker wrote about this song in her blog as well and she said, "If only she had stopped at the chorus. I kissed a girl, and I liked it. Yeah, now that’s a song worth singing."

I couldn't agree more! So I think what I'm trying to say is that I like the song in terms of it being fun music to sing along to, but I just don't think it is something that actually speaks to me. And I think that's maybe what bothers a lot of people. We women who love women are so desperate for positive visibility that when a popular song called "I Kissed a Girl" isn't actually about us, it can be upsetting to some. I understand that.

 

Thesbia's picture

I Agree...

I don't look down on anyone who enjoys the song, but personally the content in the song is much more important to me than a catchy tune and an attractive singer behind it (and she is attractive!) As a songwriter I can appreciate the catchy tune, but I'm not too enthralled with the message of the song. I guess it's just a matter of personal taste. For the same reasons I probably wouldn't listen to "I make money off of sweatshops from the east... and I like it!" But then again, it depends on what the rest of the lyrics say.
Lauren's picture

Jill Sobule - DA

I think it's unfair to say that about Jill Sobule. Her song didn't seem like what the newer version implies about stereotypes and lesbians. (Although I sort of listen to both.)
Brit's picture

i like the song

i like the song but the music didnt seem fitting for the song...did anyone else feel like that? i excepted something else i guess... :/

 

but i still love the song and cant stop listening to it 

Brit's picture

i like the song

i like the song but the music didnt seem fitting for the song...did anyone else feel like that? i excepted something else i guess... :/

 

but i still love the song and cant stop listening to it 

Alex's picture

Love both songs

I love both songs and think they're great and glad that she doesn't mind because I noticed they had the same title right away...and I can't stop listening to the new one by Kate, it's so good! :D
Stephy-O 's picture

What's the big deal?

I don't understand the big hullabaloo over Katy Perry's song. She's not singing about lesbians. She's not singing about bi girls. She's singing about straight-heteroflexible ladies kissing each other when drunk.

bicurious girls exist. And her lyrics are 99% true to bicurious girls. Take it for what it is, not an insult.

The only thing that bothered me a tad was the "it felt so wrong, it felt so right" BUT just because it sounds cheesy. As a big homo, I don't find it insulting at all...nor would I want anything more than a kiss with a bicurious girl. However, the song is true to them.

Laurence's picture

Well said Stephy-O! I

Well said Stephy-O!

I totally agree with you. People seem offended as they thought or wanted to song to be for lesbians, but it's not. it's for straight girls witha hint of bi-curiosity... I like the song, it's cathcy, good melody, but like all of us here, I REALLY can't relate to any of what Perry says as I don't need to get drunk to kiss girls :P

izzy's picture

i'm not too bothered, but

i'm not too bothered, but the line that makes me laugh: "I hope my boyfriend don't mind it". isn't it lame?
izzy's picture

i much prefere jill sobule's

i much prefere jill sobule's song
Caroline's picture

I hate the song, but it's

I hate the song, but it's so catchy. D=
But I prefer Sobule's song.

Nightsky's picture

I don't find 'I Kissed a

I don't find 'I Kissed a Girl' all that interesting (or catchy), but I hate 'Ur So Gay' - could it be more insulting? It's making it sound like gay men are all teen angst emo kids :P
Veronica's picture

I stumbled apon that song a

I stumbled apon that song a week of weeks, I dunno I didn't really like it. I know it's really popular, which I find strange, since i never heard it on the radio, I guess it's because I never lisen to the popular music stations. I find Jill S.'s much catchy.
kandice's picture

i like

i like both songs. like others posted i start to laugh when my friends sing out i kissed a girl and i liked it lol. its a catchy song and its my ringtone . ya it may seem like lesbians are just things to try out but it is a fun song
Thane McAllister's picture

...yeah, but the video sux!

...how is it even possible for someone to boast about having kissed a girl and "...liked it..." without there even being so much as a peck on the cheek in the video?!? the song is hella catchy and k.p. is kute and all, but the lack of actual girl-on-girl lovin' (in the official video) kinda made me re-think my whole outlook on this bubblegum popped-out ditty. unlike jill's song, which quite honestly had way more substance, this song felt like she wrote it to titillate her boyfriend rather than address her sexuality proclivity.

 

"I Kissed A Girl" Video

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4F06DyWU2F8

Anna's picture

loves it!

i totally like katy's song...is that so wrong?  its catchy, its cute, its fun to blast, and it makes me feel sexy....because i only kiss girls and i really like it!  lets not get all up in arms about this people...there are way more negative things we can put energy into (while listening to this lovely little energetic song!)
angie_baby06's picture

i love the song; it's fun,

i love the song; it's fun, sexy, energetic...and she's totally hot! she's not making fun of or dissing anyone. she's being honest and telling what every woman has at least thought about once in their lives.

"us girls we are so magical, soft skin, red lips so kissable, hard to resist so touchable"...i don't see a problem lol i (only) kiss girls and like it too!!!

GrrrlRomeo's picture

It's not that bad...

I've been thinking about this a bit I guess... since AfterEllen's near complete lack of covering the Buffy/Satsu storyline. How stuck up are we really? Straight women have sexuality issues too. And I don't think they're posers or something for exploring that.

It's been said a long time now, homophobia is often deeply rooted in the fear that one's self is gay. Even though the person isn't gay, they fear they are because they maybe had the slightest attraction to someone of the same sex. It causes them to freak, and project that disgust on to people who actually are gay.

So now we have a time where straight people could be okay with those faint attractions...and it's no big deal. If they don't fear that in themselves, they won't fear it in us. If they're comfortable with their sexuality, they'll be comfortable with ours.

However annoying curiosity might be, I think it's whole lot better than fear and hatred. And I think lesbians having a problem with straight women exploring their sexuality even though they know they're not gay is just a tad pretentious.

brackishtea's picture

Un-related but related...

Bi-sexual, bi-curious men>_<!!!!...I had to get that out there, I know some interesting people!!!!!!

This song is amusing, I don't take it seriously. I rather have a girl wanting to experiment then make my life a living hell telling how icky being queer is. I wish more women and men had her attitude, it's one step closer of brining the bridge together of both world so we can live happily ever after with rainbow cookies and chocolate hugs!

GrrlRomeo is right with all her queer-y wisdom, we should clebrate not eliminate. I for one do find it annoying but it's better smelling poo, you know what I mean?

mzcreation's picture

"Guys Like When Girls Kiss"

I caught this song on KCRW the other day by Little Jackie (which features singer Imani Coppola, in case anyone remembers her) - http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/tu/tu080606little_jackie_guys_l/

Similar to Katy's song. Not positive, but I like it!

Anonymous's picture

this is a very catchy

this is a very catchy songgg why not like it???

the only thing she is implying is that she liked to kiss a girl, what's so bad about that?? ;)

love the song =]

Belinda's picture

this song is now the number

this song is now the number 1 song in the country. i guess many girls are singing they kissed a girl and really liked it.