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Amanda Palmer gets banned in the UK

Before Amanda Palmer was known for being the frontwoman of the Dresden Dolls, she was recognized on the streets of Boston as a performance artist. Her theatrics are part of what make her so fun to see live, and what make her videos much more interesting than most.

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Her video for the single "Oasis" has gotten her into some trouble in the UK, however, with the television stations saying it is "making light of rape, religion and abortion."

Palmer wrote about the issue on her blog, as she's known to do, responding:

i sat down one day in or around 2002 and wrote a tongue-in-cheek, ironic up-tempo pop song.

a song about a girl who got drunk, was date raped, and had an abortion. she sings about these things lightly and joyfully and says that she doesn’t care that these things have happened to her because oasis, (her favorite band) has sent her an autographed photo in the mail. and to make things even better (!!), her bitchy friend melissa, who told the whole school about the abortion, is really jealous.

if you cannot sense the irony in this song, you’re about two intelligence points above a kumquat.

Anyone familiar with Palmer's work should know there's a method to her madness. You can watch the video for "Oasis" on her blog, where she also writes, "When you cannot joke about the darkness of life, that's when the darkness takes over."

Watch the video and give me your thoughts. Is it offensive? Is it funny?

Han M's picture

I love Amanda Palmer.  She

I love Amanda Palmer.  She is my one true musical love.  I think oasis is hilarious personally and I'm in the UK!  The video's just the icing on the cake, really.  

 

www.myspace.com/stopstartstall - acousticy music type stuff.

Sarah in Chicago's picture

Good on Amanda Palmer!

I saw this video a little while ago around the controversy of it being banned, and totall loved. Reminded me of a 'lite' version of the feminist riot-grrl music of the 90s; powerful women with social messages.

This is not offensive in the slightest, in fact it celebrates women's strength. Yes, for some women the choice of an abortion is a huge deal, emotional and conflicted. However, for lots of women out there it's not. It's a choice they make as responsible individuals and responsible possibly future parents about when the right time is to have a child, and to not destroy one's life over the fate of a small bunch of clumped cells, and they don't regret it; are in fact quite pleased that they did so.

But, of course, to hear a woman celebrate her reproductive autonomy and not want to become a mother as soon as possible, challenging the myth and lie that being a mother is naturally the ultimate for a woman, is offensive to many people. That a woman might be sexually active and enjoying it and taking responsibility for her body; well they can't have that.

And of course the disgusting anti-choice 'pro-life' nutjobs that want to impose their belief systems and moral imaginings upon other people don't want people to know that abortion and reproductive autonomy are GOOD things. That women might think it's a GOOD thing that abortion is available to us, that we can make our own choices about our bodies, is just a frightful scary thought to them, as their imaginary little worlds come falling down around their ears.

So, I say good on you, Amanda Palmer! And yes, the irony of this song being banned is just brilliant :)

Sarah 

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faith_in_buffy's picture

I agree the irony of this song being banned is brilliant

especially since us Brits tend to think American's don't get irony.

I'd not seen the vid or heard the song till just now. It is very obviously a joke, the coat hanger bit I found particularly funny and the "Jesus hates you"

"My life's like a romantic comedy that's never romantic! Or comedic! My life is nothing like a romantic comedy!" - Caitlin (Cashmere Mafia)

Sarah in Chicago's picture

Ummm ...

Well, I don't know how much I confirm that stereotype, as I am not American ... I'm a New Zealander living in the US, so my sense of humour and irony is culturally very British.

I really do adore the commentary Palmer is making in the satire in this song, insulting those that decry the lack of seriousness for the topic that the song appears to have, while making a statement about things via that very lack of seriousness. Brilliant.

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Lauren's picture

You defended abortion but

You defended abortion but you mention nothing about her rape satire.
Sarah in Chicago's picture

Good point

You're right, I didn't. 

But in a way, I thought the satire of rape was more obvious in its commentary.

The irony of a society banning a satire of rape, as a society that downplays rape in its characterising of it as 'date-rape', is quite apparent. There is no such thing as 'date-rape', there is only rape, period. That it occurs on a date softens it no less, and yet our society pretends that it does. Unless there is an overt, non-coerced, non-impaired yes from both parties involved, then there is no consent, and it's rape, regardless of whether it occurred on a date or not.

We say 'date-rape' because the guys that commit it are the ones we imagine to be the 'good boys' that were 'led-on' by girls, and were just confused, and read signals wrong, or were slightly drunk and couldn't tell ... notice where all the focus goes? On the rapist. Not on the woman raped. It's the guys, the rapists, that we protect by calling it 'date-rape' and lessening what it really is.

Palmer's reflection of this diminishing in her satire brings into stark relief how society does this all the time ... I think it's really good commentary.

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i want an athlete!'s picture

Palmer's Oasis - Right to be banned

I absolutely love this video. Anybody who gets the satire in this video most likely loves it. But what about uneducated kids who don't see the satire?

I understand why it's banned. Even though Palmer meant this as a critique of our society, many artists make songs that are lyrically very similar, but who actually mean it seriously. Take Fergie and My Humps: "The boys they wanna sex me, always dancing next to me, trying to feel my hump hump". The lyrics are relatively similar to Oasis', but Fergie is actually seriously saying it's sexy - which sends out a completely different message than Oasis. Even though the TV/Radio stations are smart enough to know that the songs are in fact completely different, they don't want to send out the wrong message to their predominantly underage audience, who might not catch the difference.

If Palmer did want it aired, she should make sure that her underage audience knows she's being satirical. At the moment, I'm not sure they do.

(sidenote: thank god Alanis Morissette showed how rediculous Fergie is, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W91sqAs-_-g)

Inhibition's picture

a different perspective

I hadn't really thought about it from that perspective, I guess because I'm such a fanatic AP supporter. I think it really would be worse to have her ostracized as a corruptor of the youth than unknown. Even so, I think something should be done about people not recognizing the brilliant satire of the song.
Judith 's picture

Disagree, but understand

I think it's a great song, and I think Palmer has a maturity about these issues that isn't necessarily relatable for everyone.  I think she does a great job of processing the great pain of patriarchy, abuse, and gender normativity through music.  At the same time, I get why it was banned because censorship is always way behind creativity.  Basically, if you talk about rape or abortion, it will be banned, because our society has not evolved in a way that most people can handle these subjects.
lamp's picture

undecided on the video...

....but i'm wondering to what extent can you 'joke about the darkness of life'..is there a line that Amanda Palmer or any of us wouldn't or shouldn't cross??
Hannah672's picture

I saw her in london and she

I saw her in london and she played a slower version of oasis that the radio would probably play:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG1McdiEpfU

 

siobhan's picture

This is interesting.

Amanda Palmer is right to say that the UK is meant to be the home of Black humour. I think the banning of her song says a lot about the current social climate in the UK. Teen pregnancy is a major problem here, as is youth binge drinking and now violent crime. Ofcourse these are not problems particular to the UK, but I believe we have the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Europe.

The government do not know how to handle these problems and flit back and forth between better sex education and pretending like sex doesn't exist. Truth of the matter is, sex ed in the UK is TERRIBLE (let alone gay sex ed, which Im pretty sure, still isn't allowed to be mentioned). The reception of this song probably has a lot to do with this current climate and the recent arguments over reforming the abortion law. For all of the UK's apparent liberal stance on certain issues, Im afraid to say that the country is moving to the Right. I think its safe to say that the Tories will win the next election, so expect to see more reactions like this one.

Having said all of this, I do have to say that I don't think the irony in this song and video is very clear. It's ambiguity has probably caused it extra problems because many people won't take the time to think about it. I'm not siding with the censors, but I can understand why this happened.

 

Natazzz's picture

I don't agree with all this PC censorship

I heart Amanda Palmer, she's one of my favourite artists ever, thus I obviously love her style and the topics she sings about.

This song might not be for everyone and I can understand if someone were to take offense, but to ban it is ridiculous.

Besides, everyone knows that if you ban a song only more people will want to listen to it.

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VeeMachi's picture

i missed the irony of the

i missed the irony of the irony of the song because I had no idea who oasis was. that blog post was really enlightening to the nature of the song and did a good job arguing for how we all should be allowed to make fun of things.

Comedy and Tragedy will always be opposing sides of the same coin.
Mezzanine's picture

im waiting for the video to

im waiting for the video to load now :D i dont think i will find it offensive its really REALLY hard to offend me :P ill probably laugh :D
Fidelis's picture

well that just sucks but

well that just sucks

but seems like amanda will always have to deal with censorship.

I mean the whole "Yes Virgina" Album (dresden dolls) got censored for walmart 

 

video or not. the best thing ist still seeing her life

generalsmuts's picture

The video is very

The video is very unsettling, which I'm sure she wanted to achieve.

Altough I am against censorship, I can understand why certain networks have banned it - I'd say that the majority of people that would see it would not realise it is satire. I don't think the networks were really worried about how religious people or young people would see the video, but more about offending rape victims or people that have had abortions with images that might disturb them. These are serious issues and I can see why people might get upset by this video. In the end the networks probably would have received more complaints than positive feedback and so they probably thought it wasn't worth the hassle.

Is she parodying the youth of today or people's reactions to such topics? I can't be sure. Also, is she British? All this talk of Blur and Oasis, it looks like a late-90s britpop video!

Ms Eres's picture

Its a great song.

I don't know how the irony could be more clear. The song isn't meant to be slow, it's a commentary on teenagers reactions to trama such as rape and the tone is a large part of that. I don't find it at all offensive and only a little funny.

It's sad. It makes me think of friends and classmates I've had. Has no one else been around people, teenagers in particular, who try to dismiss their own pain in favor of focusing on more enjoyable or shalllow concerns? Kids for whom taking it seriously, giving weight to their experiences, would be too much? Because that was and still is a pretty common coping mechanism, in my peer group.

The song should not be banned.

eel_lee's picture

To be fair, the UK hasn't

To be fair, the UK hasn't actually banned the song: a few minor digital TV channels have raised concerns, but the song is being played by the BBC which is about as mainsteam as it gets.  It seems to me that this 'ban' is being talked up by a record company who have recently been in dispute with in the artist, maybe to raise the song's profile, get extra publicity and cover their own backs.
Lauren's picture

I don't think it should be

I don't think it should be banned, but I also don't think there is anything funny about rape. I realize this is only for "satire" purposes and she is trying to say you should make light of tradegy, but I still disagree.