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"You and Me and He" will follow a lesbian relationship on CBSFile under: Finally! Last week, CBS ordered a lesbian-centric sitcom script from out writer-comedian Carol Leifer. According to The Hollywood Reporter:
It does kind of sound like Ross/Susan/Carol's storyline from Friends, but this time it's being told by a lesbian, from the perspective of the lesbians. So shelve that skepticism and put down CBS' GLAAD report card (Grade: Failing) and cross your fingers with me. If you don't recognize Leifer's name, you'll definitely recognize her work. She was the creator and writer of the short-lived The Ellen Show, the hopeful reincarnation of Leifer also wrote some seminal episodes of Seinfeld, most notably The Lip Reader, which starred
In fact, Matlin is teaming up with Leifer again. In the second bit of good news for Leifer last week, Showtime picked up her comedy Mouthpiece, which stars Matlin and Mario Cantone. There isn't much we can do beyond speculating at this point in the early life of Leifer's comedy You, Me and He. It is a long road from script order to a show getting picked up and broadcast by a network. I'll be over here praying to the TV gods that they'll make it happen. I sort of feel like they still owe us big time for ever letting
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Right there with ya. The
Right there with ya. The story is basically Frank/Olivia/Natalia all over again. Rub it in some more, CBS, please? That was a pretty hated storyline, why make a reprieve? They don't get that to be buddies with the homos you shouldn't throw in a hetero-ex to make the story acceptable to the conservatives. Why bother? You just corrupt all of the characters' likability because they're trying to make them too many things.
Ok, so i'm being pretty presumptuous. The story could actually involve some well-rounded, interesting characters, who might even show some intimacy. It IS possible. But it being CBS, i doubt it...
Couldn't agree more
Best line.
"I sort of feel like they still owe us big time for ever lettingCarrie Prejean get famous."
Oh boy oh boy oh boy!
Sounds good to me! With the lack of lesbian/bisexual women on TV now, I can't wait for this to come out.
And yay for Marlee Matlin!
It might be interesting, I
CBS and the Lesbians
We have so few lesbian characters on tv that CBS adding a minimum of 2 with this show, moves them from dead last in the GLAAD report to somewhere in the middle.
BTW, Arizona on Greys Anatomy is the only lesbian series regular on ALL network tv.
While the concept is
While the concept is reminicent of Friends, I think I will watch this. The lip reading episode of Seinfield was fantastic, and anyone responsible for resurrecting Ellen's name is bound to be responsible with the script.
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Nice! I'm right behind ya.
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Babies have been and will
Babies have been and will always be a sitcom killer. I totally can't wait for the 3 or 4 episodes that will air though. :)
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Yeah right
like most posters so far
... I'm a little leary of this premise, for a few reasons.
1, the similarity to that most dreaded of Otalia plotlines.
2, I'm all for the lesbian U-haul jokes, but she's already in an established same-sex relationship and just finding out she's pregnant? Either she jumped from one relationship to the next really fast, or she went back to the hubby at some point.
3, See number one
4, At some point, it will be great to have more bisexual characters or an ensemble cast of people who are pretty much always sexually fluid, but darn it ... before that happens, I've really wanted to see more lesbian leading characters. And by that I mean lesbian leading characters who were introduced as lesbians, who did not have to come out or deal with the newness of being interested in women, who do not have male baggage. I just feel like most gay female characters on TV have to arrive at that point on-air and I really want one to come fully assembled and operational. If that makes sense.
Since it's really unfair to judge something by its premise, however, I will say that Carol Leifer is funny and that's a plus. Also, it will be nice to see a lesbian penning this type of story (hopefully that will be a plus).
And finally, at least in this story, her character was married to this man and presumably in love with him at one time, as opposed to the Otalia situation where Frank was a really annoying plot device and obstacle that ended up with way more screen time and consideration than he should have.
I guess I'm willing to watch an episode or two; and as progress goes, maybe this is one version of the new blended family of sorts.
And not to diss on Venice in any way, shape or form, because I'm really looking forward to it ... but the lesbian sensibility of that show is still an unknown, too. Crystal, as a big fan of soaps, defended and supported a lot of the Otalia stuff that drove many of us crazy. She sees it as good soapy writing. To me, however, until you get a more equal representation of gay characters or same-sex couples, you should treat their soapiness a little differently than the 99 percent of the rest of the cast. And let's face it, Otalia didn't need a Frankenbaby, Nataway or Jolivia reunion for drama. There was enough already.
So I'm holding out hope for Venice, but I doubt it's going to make everyone happy all the time.
with you 75%....but about the bisexuals....
I agree with most of your points here--personally, I am starting to find pregnancy storylines a real turn-off--but I have to take exception to the "bisexuals should wait until after the lesbians make progress line."
This idea--you wait here until we get our rights first--has been proposed before (black men to black women, white women to women of color, straight women to LBT women, gays and lesbians to trans people, etc.), and it never works. It just divides the minority community and makes them more susceptible to attack from the majority.
I sympathize with your desire for storylines that aren't coming out ones, and I actually think the two of us want the same things; we're just naming them differently.
What I want, what I think we need are characters, lesbian or bisexual, who already have an identity in place, and whose love lives revolve around their relationships with women. A bisexual character can easily do that. Contrary to believe we don't all have "male baggage."
I'd love to see a bisexual woman who is already out and whose life revolves around her relationships with women--not just because that's my life and that of many, many bi women I know, but because that's a gaping hole in how bi women have been shown.
The current raft of women who sleep with both men and women (and many more men) but don't call themselves bi (or anything else) represent a stereotype, not an identity--that all women are somehow "heteroflexible" and so no women with a real queer identity needs to be shown.
And I really like your point about soapiness, and how what works for the gazillions of straight characters on the air comes across very different for the very few same-sex couples.
thats a nice gesture cbs
But so far i'm not hooked.
The marlee matlin show though... I'll watch anything with her in it, even if she is playing a straight character.
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