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Supervillainesses we'd like to see on screen

If you're going to make a comic book film that will echo in the minds and hearts of moviegoers, you've got to have a villain that's as super as the hero. Heath Ledger will get an Oscar nomination for his role as The Joker in The Dark Knight, and he should — not because of Ledger's untimely death, but because his portrayal of the clown prince of darkness is what nightmares are made of. It doesn't take terror to make a good villain, though; some of the best comic book bad guys have been more clever than they are evil. Thing is: most of them have been men. So, here's my casting advice for the next set of superhero movie villains. And by "villain" you know I mean "villainess."

Talia al Ghul, Aishwarya Rai

Liam Neeson played Ra's al Ghul in Batman Begins. As imposing as his portrayal was, Neeson didn't really fit the build of the original comic book character. Aishwarya Rai, though? She would be the perfect actress to play al Ghul's daughter, Talia. In the comics, she is in constant turmoil between her devotion to her psychotic dad and and her moral compass, which seems to point in the same direction as Batman's. The actress who plays Talia as Ghul has to be, above all, a seductress. Here's a litmus test: Could Aishwarya Rai seduce you? Yeah, that's what I thought. Sign her up.

Catwoman, Selma Blair

I'm talking about something better than Michelle Pfeiffer's secretary-scorned Catwoman in Batman Returns. I'm talking about a villainess who won't play second-fiddle to Batman. I'm talking about a gorgeous feminist who has a social conscious, but just plain old like to rob things. Selma Blair would own that Catwoman. I've already developed the movie's tagline: Mrowr!

Star Sapphire, Eva Greeen

In the DC universe, Star Sapphire is a lot of people, but what's important is that she's a queen. She straddles the line between good and bad: taunting, besting and seducing The Green Lantern at every turn. She's an ethereal beauty, who is sometimes pink and sometimes green. Eva Green is an ethereal beauty who would look good in either.

Poison Ivy, Emily Blunt

and

Julia Stiles, Harley Quinn

These two have a love/hate relationship with The Joker. In the comic books, The Joker kicks Harley Quinn to the curb, and Poison Ivy find her and nurses her back to health. In my version of the movie, neither of them would return to The Joker. Instead, Julia Stiles as Harley Quinn and Emily Blunt as Poison Ivy would pursue their, er, common interests together. I mean together together. Batman wouldn't stand a chance.

What actress do you think would make a great comic book villainess? Would you recast my choices? Go on, the world needs more lesbian superheroes!

radiohost's picture

Michelle Pfeiffer

C'mon. Michelle Pfeiffer is the perfect catwoman. She was beyond brilliant. Can't even bare to watch Halle Berry in Catwoman. Other than that I like your choices!
Shasta's picture

Catwoman

I agree that Michelle Pfeiffer was fantastic.

I'm not arguing with the choice of Selma Blair, but that image of Catwoman is eerily similar to this photo from the always delightful (ok, or not) ANTM. Is there a Spiderwoman?

 

I'd love to see more of Eva Green in anything. She's stunning. I still get palpitations at the thought of that scene in Casino Royale when she's doing her make-up.

Other than that, I don't know much about comic book villains, but I'll happily watch that one with Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn. Yay!

Bend it like...'s picture

i like the poison ivy/harley quinn comic story line

I would buy/read the comic and then hope the movie version would come out..

But I have to agree, catwoman for me will always be michelle pfeiffer, shje was smokin!

 

eva-e's picture

sounds (looks) good

I just doubt Aishwarya Rai would play a seductress. I somehow perceive her as a little too composed, tending towards cold, even.
ttstod's picture

I think a lot of that might

I think a lot of that might be cultural. (An assumption, on my part, so feel free to disagree.) I recall reading an interview with her in which she mentions her cultural/religious avoidance of overtly sexual roles because they clash with her personal values and beliefs. But I have no doubt that if tempted to the role, she could pull it off. Perhaps without even trying. I mean, come on. Look at her. :)
eva-e's picture

Indians, pfff

That's most of what I meant. The "good indian girl" complex will drive me crazy one day. Don't think her in-laws would ever allow her to play an overtly sexual role now.  I guess I'd love the opportunity to judge her on that, though. Might change my perception of her.

phantomavatar08's picture

Catwoman...

...To me Catwoman will always be Michelle, but I'm open to persuasion. Maybe a blonde Kate Beckinsale, actually any Kate Beckinsale. *drifts off momentarily* Oh! Right, villainesses, I like the rest of your choices. I see Emily blunt as more of a Barabara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle kind of girl. We all know Huntress needs a mentor. *winks*

 

If homophobes always think what they've always thought, then they'll always get what they've always got...my foot have way up their

And then Kelly said:'s picture

I can see Emily Blunt as

I can see Emily Blunt as Oracle. Not so much as Batgirl.

And I can see Kate Beckinsale as Catwoman / Selina Kyle. She always looks good in skin-tight leather. Dark hair though. I don't know but a blonde Catwoman just doesn't seem right to me.  

phantomavatar08's picture

YEAH....

...I can totally see that. You're right Batgirl would have to be someone....else.

 

 

 

If homophobes always think what they've always thought, then they'll always get what they've always got...my foot have way up their

ttstod's picture

Aces

Wow! I think you've got a great line-up of female supervillians there. I don't disagree with any of them and after reading, really, really, really wish that any of those movies were out there on the horizon. Especially the Talia, Poison Ivy and Harley Quin ones. I can see each of those roles being filled, successfully, by the women you've chosen.
Selina's picture

Hahaha, Catwoman.

I must admit, Selma Blair would make a hot Catwoman.

But I was named after the Michelle Pfeiffer one, so I suppose she'll always be the 'real' one for me.

 

On the other hand, Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn? Yum.  

Chloe_Ad's picture

Good choice on the Emily

Good choice on the Emily Blunt-Ivy casting. I wouldn't cast Julia Stiles as Harley, though. I would cast... hmm... Kristen Bell, maybe. Or Naomi Watts

Oh, Harley and Ivy totally had a thing going on in my version of the story, too. In the animated series from the 90's Harley and Ivy were, like, living together and they shared a bedroom and they would walk aroud the house half naked all the time and acting all snuggle-y, which was just strangely obvious. 

Jen's picture

Harley

I wouldn't cast Julia Stiles as Harley either.  I couldn't put my finger on who would be best. I like your ideas Chloe Ad. I'm more familiar with Naomi Watts' acting so I think she could really pull it off. I think Kristen Bell would be the hotter choice though.
Kaya's picture

Emily Blunt

Good choice, I never would have thought of that. If it's based more on acting than resemblance to the character, I think Ellen Page would make a good Harley Quinn. But if Harley and Ivy hooked up, why not make Anne Hathaway Harley.. haha.
Nathiest's picture

uh no she wouldn't.

uh no she wouldn't.

-Nathiest
the devil is in the details

And then Kelly said:'s picture

I agree. Ellen Page as

I agree. Ellen Page as Harley just, no. I love her as an actress, but I can't see her as Harley.  

Then again, I never thought I'd see Heath Ledger as the Joker. Especially a Joker as sinister as the one in The Dark Knight.  

Ulthran's picture

Good Choices...

But I second Kristen Bell for Harley-besides the fact that she confessed she would kill to play Harley, admitting she's a huge fan, so she's made of awesome.
Nathiest's picture

wow she's a fan? that's

wow she's a fan? that's cool ok I'm for Kristen Bell for Harley!

-Nathiest
the devil is in the details

Nathiest's picture

IM SOLD!

Julia Stiles Kristen Bell as Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy played by Emily Blunt ???I want this to happen! Someone make it happen!

-Nathiest
the devil is in the details

playthemusic814's picture

I Wish!

This right here needs to happen, like, yesterday! EB and KB, FTW.

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~It means pride.~

shelby's picture

Genius

Stunt Double 

As a huge DC fangirl I VERY much approve.  Great list.  Now if only Hollywood could do any sort of superhero film with a female lead or strong supporting character.

When someone like a Whedon treatment of Wonder Woman gets dumped and the Batverse ignores the strong female characters of it's own universe (alas poor Barbara Gordon reduced to 'Gordon daughter' in the credits of the most recent film) it's just sad.

 

 

phantomavatar08's picture

Even sadder....

...They wouldn't even show her face. This was a the only thing that made my Dark Knight experiance a bit less enjoyable. Barbara Gordon need s her own movie!!!

 

 

 

If homophobes always think what they've always thought, then they'll always get what they've always got...my foot have way up their

Booger's picture

okay so

the harley quinn/poison ivy thing totally reminded of this cartoon:

 

ahaha. 

 

well, he is batman....

 

Janet: Everybody's talking about it.
Amy: About what?
Janet: How you met Lucy and lived to tell about it. They're calling you a hero, when really you're a slut.
Amy: You shut up
Janet: A gay slut.

Heather Hogan's picture

This made me laugh so hard.

Thank you!
prettyinblack33's picture

LOL

I think I just scared a co-worker walking by my office when I laughed out loud!

"If you're not trying to make something better, then as far as I can tell, you are just in the way. "

sizz_leteen's picture

Black Cat?

Scarlett Johansson as Black Cat? She's definitely got the body!
Uma Thurman as Emma Frost?

Jaguar's picture

Delete spam accounts please!!

Do we really have to put up with spam on Afterellen? Surely if that is all they do their account should be deleted so I dont have to read their poorly spelt and strange messages- " white beautiful single man who want to end her single life??

 

It just annoys me waaaaa!

Harpy's picture

Spammers

Of course the accounts are blocked and posts deleted, it just takes some time.   :)

Anyone should feel free to PM me if there's a spammer we've missed.

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tpfkah's picture

And Harpy is on her own in the fight against spammers

where are the other mods, btw? 

My theory is that they just wait for her to go to sleep before they start their dirty work.

Oh, and you´re not the only one who is annoyed by them.

Harpy's picture

:)

No no, Sarah has been getting them too.  :)

We'll have some new moderators very soon also. 

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tpfkah's picture

OT: New mods?

Will AE.com have a reality casting show? "AE.com´s Next Top Moderators"? It could feature a mud fight with our favourite spammers. And we all get to vote.
jitka's picture

I would TOTALLY recast your

I would TOTALLY recast your choices! It would never have occured to me to replace Pfeiffer with Blair but I can totally picture it. And I'm not even Batman/ DC Comics fan but you got me excited. I mean the duo of Poison Ivy(who was always too hot  to be straight, anyway!)and Harley Quinn=Awesome!!
Melissa's picture

I like

the choices  but i would like to see isla fisher (gloria from wedding crashers) as harley quin.
Mel 's picture

My Choices

Catwomen---- Eliza Dushku Or Rosario Dawson

Harley Quinn---- I like the idea of Julia Styles

Poison Ivy--- This Is a toughy cuz i liked Uma Thurman as Her..... Eh ill go with Emily blunt

=] Hope you like my idea.

Anonymous's picture

Susan Sarandon as Morgan Le Fey

Queen Narissa     
Viva's picture

I don't know anything about

I don't know anything about batman, but you put Aishwarya in there and I'll be your batman Guru.

 

 

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