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Lesbian Scientistics: Maxim's Hot 100 vs. AfterEllen.com's Hot 100

Maxim unveiled its tenth annual Hot 100 yesterday, and after careful study I have finally been able to determine what AfterEllen.com and the men's magazine have in common.

Joking! (Sort of.)

20 women made both lists, including Jessica Alba, Eliza Dushku, Yvonne Strahovski, and even First Lady Michelle Obama. Olivia Wilde took Maxim's number one spot, just slipping by Megan Fox. (My theory is that the editors were testing Fox's claim that Wilde makes her want to strangle a mountain ox with her bare hands — or hoping that the proximity would cause them to make out in public.)

You'll be shocked, I'm sure, to discover that Angelina Jolie and Lindsay Lohan were the only lesbian/bisexual women are on Maxim's list. Six women who have played lesbians on-screen, as well as Katy Perry, made the cut. (Make of that what you will.)

I'll bet you want to see all this in chart-form, huh?

And just for comparison's sake, I teased out entertainment information about both readerships based on the choices for their Hot 100 lists.

What's that? You get enough math at your regular job/school, and all you really want at the end of the day is to see some beautiful women? Maybe we have more in common with Maxim than I thought.

(That actually was a joke.)

How do you think Maxim's list compares to the AfterEllen.com Hot 100?

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  • Tess's picture

    Afterellen Hot 100 >>> Maxim Hot 100

    Not to be a teenage boy or anything, but I really hope your theory about Maxim's strategy of putting Megan Fox and Olivia Wilde next to eachother works.  I'm thinking House writers should have Megan Fox guest star next season, or better yet make her a regular as 13's girlfriend.  One can dream.

    Also I never thought I could like Venn diagrams or pie charts but you continue to prove me wrong.  These are great!

    kulhaha's picture

    14 and proud of it

    I'll jump in and be the teenage boy! Make out make out make out make out make out!
    blooddrivendream's picture

    I am willing to be a 14 year

    I am willing to be a 14 year old boy too.

    If Olivia Wilde and Megan Fox make out does it mean if I put two hot girls next to each other on a list they will make out? Cool. *wills Shirley Manson and Amanda Palmer to*

    God I am such a teenage boy.  

    music_lover's picture

    0_0

    Can i give you a hug?
    you are a genius. 
    *wills Shirley Manson and Amanda Palmer to* " 
    absolutely genius. 
    NaomilyGeek!!'s picture

    Too be honest sod the

    Too be honest sod the science part of this blog lol!!! Them maxim pictures are hot.... sod being all feministy im gay cause i love hot women and they sure are hot!!

    Kathryn Prescott for AfterEllen's Hot 100!! 

    Oscar Wilde: "I can resist everything but temptation"

    chose's picture

    joke...

    For the record, I really enjoyed the "joke." Or the pictures that accompanied it, anyway. ;)
    Suzzie's picture

    Diagrams + pretty pictures = awsome!

    That first Venn diagram made me laugh so much!! And the picture of Eva Mendes....wow!! Really....wow!

     However, the picture of Eva on the women of colour list was AMAZING!!! Even without the Maxim logo you could tell the difference between their photos and the afterellen hot 100 photos....Maxim = naked and provacitive afterellen = fully clothed (pretty much) and sensual!

     Its late over here so I hope that all made sence!!!

    Sharon's picture

    soo...

    I just went through the maxim list and the afterellen list (for the third time to the latter) and I am just happy...ok, maybe Maxim's criteria are different than afterellen's...but meh, I won't complain about the complied hotness.
    NaomilyGeek!!'s picture

    You say that like naked and

    You say that like naked and provacttive is wrong :p lol i joke!

    Kathryn Prescott for AfterEllen's Hot 100!! 

    Oscar Wilde: "I can resist everything but temptation"

    Rockstar's picture

    hilarious!!

    "lesbian themed TV shows and pirated movies online" hahaha

    i couldn't have said it better myself!!

    Lowell's picture

    as usual

    it's obvious that maxim's list is primarily based on looks and current popularity whereas the afterellen is based on a more in-depth view of these women.
    fallon ash's picture

    Yay!!

    Awesome!! I gotta say, though, that you must think highly (or the opposite?) of us to leave 'boobs' off the AfterEllen criteria list entirely... :P
    StuntDouble's picture

    Hold up!

    There's some overlap there. Part of the AE critera is decolletage!
    fallon ash's picture

    Point taken.

    Ah, I see. I read the overlap to mean that some of the women that we voted for solely for their wit and intelligence etc, coincidentally happened to have great boobs, which was why Maxim woted for them... I also just spent far too much time reading things into this. ;)
    i want an athlete!'s picture

    Venn Diagram Correction

    Dear Miss Stuntdouble, 

    Whilst I appreciate your continued efforts to incorporate the sciences into your otherwise subjective publication, I must call you out on your misuse of AE's beloved Venn-Diagram. 

    See, Maxim's list is based entirely on the boobs-factor. Since this factor, amongst others, is included in AE's list, your Venn Diagram should look like this: 

     

    With best regards. 

     

    StuntDouble's picture

    Venn correction

    You know, viewed from the correct angle, your diagram almost looks like a boob.

    Wow, I need to step away from the charts. 

    TehMorp's picture

    I'm sorry, did you mean to walk right into this?

    ...or maybe you need to relax by stepping a little closer to someone's "charts". ;p
    EverytimeYouCloseYourEyes's picture

    StuntDouble!

    bahahahaha.

    you're even funnier than i already thought you were!

    i want an athlete!'s picture

    Boob

    Perhaps that's why you put your version up instead of mine - censorship issues?

    My bad if I qualify as having posted porn on your site. 

    stephanie b's picture

    Not always about boobs

    But that implies that boobs was a deciding factor for all the ladies on the AE list. Personally, I voted for several women, such as Tina Fey and Rachel Maddow, for reasons that did not include their boobs. I think stuntdouble's chart stands.

    Also, those Maxim photos are skeevy.

    EverytimeYouCloseYourEyes's picture

    ...

    and if by skeevy you mean sexy than definitely yes. lol.
    i want an athlete!'s picture

    lol

    Haha well there's a few women on the list who ermm, lack in the intelligence department. I won't name names. 

    Or in the athletic department for that matter.  

    notl33t's picture

    Agreed!  All women have

    Agreed!  All women have boobs, regardless of size.  :)
    Lauren's picture

    ha! I love that Megan and

    ha! I love that Megan and Olivia are at the top<3

    Also, notice how almost EVERY picture on maxim's list is in underwear? Pssh. Not that I'm complaining ;) 

    Go here for my view on all things lesbian: http://allthingslesbeau.blogspot.com

    HopeForTheFuture414's picture

    Coming to terms with my obsession

    This may be the one and only time this phrase comes from my mouth, but thank you straights of America, for banning together and picking the hottest women on this earth to grace the Hot 100. I will let the fact that Britney Spears was in the top 20 slide merely because of the hotness that exudes from Olivia Wilde.

    Pshh, mountain ox is an understatement, try a pack or lions or swarm of bees. *drools* 

    alex's picture

    hmmm

    wait a second, shouldnt that be the other way around?

    [[[ im not sure why, but i cant seem to post this variation on the (already doctored) chart. Boobs are totally the bigger circle. Everything else is inside: http://tinyurl.com/pharej  ]]]

    not gonna lie, im 100% behind Olivia Wilde as number 1.
    it's a good thing there was never an OC / L Word crossover, bc if she and Sarah Shahi ever shared a scene, my tv (and mind) might explode.

    oh, and i fully support the fact that on their list, Leighton > Blake. Heck yes.  

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    i want an athlete!'s picture

    Venn

    Ok at the risk of becoming a super geek, I'm gonna stick with my version. 

    Yours implies that AE is within the bigger Maxim circle, i.e. that all of AE's qualities are included in Maxim's. 

    The exact opposite is actually what happneed. Maxim has managed to exclude everything humanizing and personalizing (if that's a word) about a woman and focus only on her boobies. 

    alykat's picture

    Venn diagrams

    I love that you guys are embroiled in a deep, diagramatically illustrated discussion of the proper use of statistical modelling tools in the representation of factors affecting various people's assessments of hot women. This just wouldn't happen on a Maxim forum.
    i want an athlete!'s picture

    Well

    Maxim: straight men
    Afterellen: lesbians

    Maxim: boobs, boobs, boobs
    Afterellen: statistical discussions

    Subtle difference in intelligence levels?

    jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

    Weather Channel

    Having spent far too much of my life around straight men, I have to tell you that the pie-chart of their tv viewing is missing the The Weather Channel. No accounting of straight male viewing habits is complete without it. Don't ask me why, but they are drawn to it like primates to fermented fruit rotting on the twig.
     
    MJNuts's picture

    LOL

    I'm sorry, but I actually like their Top 10 a lot better (didn't have the patience to go through all the Hot 100 without pics). Well, except for Rihanna, that's just... bad. But hot is hot. And hotness is a physical thing, it's not about being gay or gay for pay and it's not even about being funny or smart. So if I turn on my hormones and aim physical... Go, Maxim. Thanks for having a few women taking my breath away!x) Oh, and how HOT was Jordana Brewster on that photo?
    Misss-Independent's picture

    i totally agree

    i agree with everything u just said !!! EVERYTHING !!:DDDDD

    rusty_tiffany's picture

    i feel like a traitor, but...

    i have to admit that i actually like most of their list better than ours (i'm sorry! they included more of my picks). my mind closely resembles that of a straight 14 year old boy when it comes to hot girls, and their list reflects that. there are definitely women on our list who i prefer (jennifer beals, sarah shahi, kristen stewart vs heidi montag and fergie, for example), but overall, their list is more my taste. intelligence and humor and all those other things are great and can be really sexy, but those are things i would want in a girl i'm looking to date, not just drool over. hot is hot, and as awesome as our list is, pretty faces and boobs are hot, so for once, maxim's list is actually pretty good by my purely physical standards.

    overall though, i love that there are two lists, because it means that i have double the pictures to look over a thousand times =)

    laura.g's picture

    I'll join you...

    Although I haven't seen alot of the Maxim's Hot 100, I most likely will prefer their list over AE's.  To me the definiton of HOT is pretty much based on one thing, and that is physical appearance.  AE's readers tend to put a myriad of other traits into the mix.  So I'm gonna board the turncoat train with Rusty Tiffany :))
    SecretSquirrel's picture

    Same for me! Of course some

    Same for me! Of course some gay and "gay for pay" women are missing in Maxim's list, but I'm sure if they only knew those women, they'll put them in their list too...

    Anyway, I like Maxim's list a lot...I think AE's list is too much about the gay community, and Maxim's list not enough...the perfect list would be a mix...

    wild_horses's picture

    the photos in Maxim's

    list definitely exude more hotness. Choosing sexier photos for the AE Hot List would have gone a long way to amping up the immediate hotness factor of the list...
    Flame's picture

    AE could get one thing from Maxim...

    ...that linked table they have on the front page is great! So is their "See All Photos" page which has all 100 thumbnails (that link to the bigger versions). So much better than having to page through over a dozen pages of big photos, just to see who made it.
    DjBotervloot's picture

    no way

     sorry, but now way that any list with tila on it can be taken seriously.. ok no list is to be taken seriously.. but really?? tila? I don't really get this system though .. there's the list that you get when you follow the link above and then there are the photo's ... but the pictures contain different people than the list.. so I hope I'm just confused and made a mistake cause there's no way that tila can be on any list.. is there? 

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    BAS's picture

    That's 2008

    If you click on the top 10, once you get to 1, it starts with the 2008 list. I went all the way through that too.

    Tila is hot. Sorry that you don't like her, but she's basically famous FOR BEING HOT. Also bi, so by the lesbian scientistics we should be voting for her. Maybe next year I will, just to piss people off haha.

    Ironic how we started this entire list because some people were horrified that Lindsay Lohan was at the top of it in 2007. It will be interesting if Tila ever gets into our good graces enough for people to be able to look past her career to see her hotness. Wait who's shallow?

    musicbendr's picture

    Surprising List

    I was actually really surprised at Maxim's 50-100 or so. There was a lot of diversity in the back half of the list, which is certainly quite good. However, once they got into the 30's or so everyone seemed to be the stereotypical picks you'd expect on a Hot 100 list. I'm sort of torn about all the nearly-nude photos... on one hand, the list IS about hotness, but on the other, it does seem kind of skeezy. Eh.

    And also, in response, to the second graph, that just reflects the community that votes. Gay/bi women are generally going to know about more of the gay and gay-for-pay actresses than straight men. We can't really fault them for not voting for something they don't know exists. That being said, I also think that the gay/gay-for-pay actresses have a certain extra appeal within this community because they've shown that they're not afraid to be who they or that they're not afraid to support us. And that- to me, at least- adds an extra level of hotness.

    avalaurent's picture

    You're right!

    If I had seen "After Sex" before I made my list, Zoe Saldana would have been #1.  She has a (cute) boyfriend in real life (at least he's cute), but her "gay for pay" in that movie made me want to see Star Trek right away, and really, I don't want to see Star Trek. 

    BAS's picture

    Just to be a brat

    I'd like to point out that Maxim's top 10 is more racially diverse as our top 10 - 4/10 are WOC, versus 3/10 on our list. I'm not going to skim through and analyze the racial makeup of all 100, but in terms of top 10, let's at least acknowledge that they aren't entirely shallow and picking all blonde girls.

    Okay, I'm skimming through. Their list includes 24 WOC overall, exactly the same as ours:

    Olivia Munn

    Padma Lakshmi

    Michelle Obama

    Roselyn Sanchez

    Jamie Chung

    Camilla Belle

    Gabrielle Union

    Dania Ramirez

    Christina Milian

    Kim Kardashian

    Beyonce

    Freida Pinto

    Nicole Scherzinger

    Nadine Velazquez

    Ciara

    Penelope Cruz (note - as per convo on the WOC thread, is probably technically white, but since she was counted in ours, I'll count her here)

    Zoe Saldana

    Eva Mendes

    Moon Bloodgood

    Christina Aguilera

    (top 10)

    Jordana Brewster

    Rihanna

    Adriana Lima

    Megan Fox

     

    So, really, the ONLY thing I see different in ours is that we vote waaaay more gay-for-pay. As that's really more of a reflection of what we watch, does that really make us more well-rounded than they are?  And why should we be anyway - it's HOT. We missed some definitely hot women because we were busy voting for women who played a lesbian role.  Seems like maybe we are the ones who are single-minded on something.

    skll's picture

    You forgot Jessica Alba

    You forgot Jessica Alba under the WOC.
    MJNuts's picture

    :D

    Thank you! Your last paragraph just made my day.
    avalaurent's picture

    Yeah, apparently I'm a man's woman....

    More of my top ten made the Maxim list:

    1. Leighton Meester
    2. Gabrielle Union
    3. Beyonce
    4. Keri Hilson
    5. Minka Kelly
    6. Kim Kardashian
    7. Nicole Scherzinger
    8. Kate Winslet
    9. Emily Blunt
    10. Camilla Belle

    When I think "Hot 100", I'm thinking who are the ten women I'd most like to sleep with; Not who can make me laugh, finish a crossword puzzle faster or encourage me to be a better person-- those people are on my "Attractive 100".  All I require for hotness is beauty and that immeasurable allure some women possess in spades.

     

    ana's picture

    Amen.

    Amen.
    rebelzz's picture

    I think my coffee is now

    I think my coffee is now officially on the keyboard. (Especially stuntdouble's comment to  i want an athlete!'s highly scientific venn diagram.) :P but... I think i want an athlete!'s diagram is a more accurate representation.
    pancreas's picture

    Maxim's list

    I think we can count three bi women with Megan Fox.

    I counted nine women on Maxim's list who have played gay/bi besides Angelina: Olivia Wilde, Jordana Brewster, Leighton Meester (that 8 Simple Rules ep), Penelope Cruz, Scarlett Johansson, Cameron Diaz (Being John Malkovich), Charlize Theron, Fergie (Grindhouse), Gabrielle Union (Running With Scissors). That's not counting  Sienna Miller in The Edge of Love, and there may be more among the various women I don't know. You can't escape the gay for pay!

    summer_time09's picture

    Sticking with Afterellen's list...

    I honestly find the women on AE's list to be alot hotter than Maxim's. First of all, AE's list isn't chock full of faces we see plastered on the news all the time, to me that makes them tired and unattractive in a sense. Plus, the women on AE's list, especially the lesser known women in my opinion are way hotter than most of the women on Maxims. Call me loyal, but I'm sticking to my guns with this one. And as soon as I saw Britney Spears in their top 10 or whatever, the list totally lost alot of cred in my book.
    Pesto the Pirate's picture

    Olivia Wilde

    I'm a bit flustered. Our list seems more "thoughtful", but I love the fact that Olivia Wilde is number one on Maxim's. The purpose of the list was to pick who is the hottest. 

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