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O'Reilly panics: lesbians are "declaring themselves" in yearbooks (and not just in cute BFF signatures)Having informed us that lesbian gangs are taking over America, Bill O'Reilly is back to warn us about a new phenomenon: Cute lesbian couples are taking over America's high schools! What's more, they're doing it just to "tweak" adults. Darn kids these days. On the Nov. 7 edition of The O'Reilly Factor, He-Who-Should-Not-Be-Heard spoke to Dr. Laura Berman, director of the Berman Center and assistant clinical professor at Northwestern University. The topic of the day was Waukegan High School in Illinois — specifically, the "Cutest Couple" poll for the senior yearbook. In those hallowed halls, Brandy Johnson and Lupe Silva were voted the cutest couple of them all, and it's not hard to see why:
Yes: because they're cute! But to O'Reilly, it's not that simple: No, the Waukegan Bulldogs are trying to make an issue of something — trying to start a revolution via yearbook poll. After all, that's tactic No. 43 in the Homosexual Agenda Handbook. Next on the list: stocking the soda machines with virgin mimosas and herbal teas! Dr. Berman (who, of course, considers the poll a sign of progress) held her own and then some, chuckling and smirking and all but rolling her eyes at O'Reilly's ridiculous statements. I myself was shrieking with outrage when he started going on about "appropriateness" and the difference between "who you are and what you do," but I should take a page from Dr. Berman's book and master the art of the derisive grin. See for yourself, and remember: Polls are subversive weapons of mass resocialization. Sorta like Fox News. For a transcript, visit the Media Matters website. Submitted by on November 9, 2007 - 12:58pm. |
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Congrats to the Cutest Couple
I didnt hear about this, but just saw the pic, and all I can think is that is awesome they were voted cutest couple it says alot about the HS aged kids and how ignorance is slowly disappearing. But clearly the older, not wiser, generation is trying to do whatever they can to take away any progress we make. But because what should be important and was taken away by Billy (I bet he doesnt like that) is congratulating those girls, thats what I am going to do.
Congrats Brandy and Lupe! You are a very cute couple!
Congratulations to the adorable couple
I can't believe...
... that this kind of debates are broadcasted on the american TV. Honestly... as a german (or european) I'm quite shocked about this. What's up over there?! This man and his point of view are completely out of question... I can't believe any channel gives him any airtime! Is he popular? He definetly shouldn't be! Wow... it's the 21st century and people are talking about this on national television?! Something is going waaay wrong...
Dr. Berman was great though. He didn't let her finish any sentence... way to go on the politeness . Not the loudest one is the right one! But her facial expression was sure worth watching the vid.
Unfortunately, He's for Real!
Wow--I'm not accustomed to getting pissed off when I view this site, but this clip had me not only internally rejoicing at how far today's kids have come and cheering for the cute couple in question, but also boiling!! I don't get riled up about much...but Bill O'Reilly is something my Father and I often fight about. Unfortunately, that rude, arrogant, close-minded, homophobic idiot has a big following in the U.S.--and it is a very scary thing that he gets to 'ram his opinions' in the public's minds as if they're fact. I'll agree with what everybody else has already said about Fox, but I'd also be curious as to who else would deserve being spit on! I'm going to venture a wild guess and bet at least one of the other two is the same also-rude, arrogant, close-minded, homophobic politician that we here in PA finally got out of office last election--Rick Santorum! Bill O'Reilly ranks right up there with him in my book!
"Sometimes you can just have, like, a moment with someone--you know, when you're doing something totally random, and...it's just, like...charged...or something." --Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper
wow
That man is so ignorant it's sad. He's completely talking out of his ass. lol He's an asshat.
It makes me so happy to see lesbian version of the cutest couple. lol Hollywood Marie youre right. They really are the most famous cutest couple ever.
Dr. Berman <3
wow that woman kicked Bill O'Reilly arsed
how can this man be let on Amercian television!?
Tool Time
Sooo with you...
Jennifer--
So who are the other two people you'd spit on? I'm so curious! :-)
But I agree completely. I used to work out at a gym that kept most of the TVs in front of the elliptical machines on Fox news. It was so obnoxious but in some ways a great motivator for working out. It made me feel like if I kept moving fast enough I'd actually be able to get through the TV screen and strangle O'Reilly with my bare hands.
Congratulations to Brandy and Lupe! They look adorable and very happy!
heh
To pay homage to Seinfeld,
"One of three??"
“What a fucking tool. I haven't watched O'Reilly for ages because, well, I can't. I get SO angry that I rant for days...He's one of three people I'd spit on if I passed them on the street.”
Only 3 people??! You’re a veritable fount of tolerance, Jenn...Wait, let me go get my list:
<drags out heavy cloth-bound tome>
*THUD*
People I’d Spit On - Volume 1, by Zee.
Zee 2, you fooled me
I really thought that was a link. Btw, while I am as tolerant as Jennifer, you just sound like my mother. I have to ask her where she is hiding her tomes (!).
Hearer *shouting*: "Hearer´s Mother, where do you hide the tomes in which you list the people you´d spit on ?"
Hearer´s Mother *shouting*: "I am not hiding them. What do you think these walls are made of ?"
Zee...let's whip'm out!
Bet you my list is bigger! ;)
"call me old fashioned but I prefer feminism that leaves a little something to the imagination!"
Spitology 101
You made me laugh so many
sputum up
First, I’d spit on whoever designed this retarded
emo -------> ;)
(that doesn't look like someone winking - it looks like someone stroking out).
Second, I’m not sure where to begin. I did say this was only Vol. 1, right? (too heavy to carry my ENTIRE list). But it’s cross-referenced and annotated, so I could do it… chronologically, I guess. Or by person/profession. Or chronologically BY person/profession.
Eh, I’ll just toss out a few random names, in no particular order: Joe Lieberman, “Dr.” Laura, David Addington, definitely Ann Coulter (she gets an über-loogie), Dr. Eric Keroack, J. Nicholas Counter, Robert Novak, the douchebag from Duane Reade (42nd St.), my 7th grade math teacher. Also, S.O. and J.P.
...and that's just 2 lines from pg 1 of Vol. 1.
but Gali – I wouldn’t take that bet with you! I’m guessin’ your list is longer (and that's a little scary) ; )
LOL.
well, my list is definitely not very discriminatory! ( insert wink of own design here!)
And yet I am known as the "nice" one. Go figure! ( insert smiley of own design!) Why, just the other day I saved a bunny!
But shame about the bet! I need the dough! ( insert another wink of own design!)
"call me old fashioned but I prefer feminism that leaves a little something to the imagination!"
Dr. Laura
He angers me also
I get ssoo angry when I watch anything on Fox News because they are so ignorant and reactionary.
Ironically though on FX (a subsidary of Fox television) they show lesbian content on Shows like Nip/Tuck and Dirt (which has pretty daring lesbian content when it is available) How daring?: Umm Carly Pope wearing a strap on arriving through the through the "back door"? Oh wow watch that be deleted.
So I don't get Fox television except that maybe lesbians are viewed as salacious material to pander to the purient fantasies of male viewers? Objectification rears it's male head once again..
Scribe, I don't think that's
Scribe, I don't think that's a "derisive grin." I get that same look on my face when I look at someone spilling crap from their lips. That's a look of pain from biting one's tongue.
Bill's philosophy, "Speak louder and over the person, so that the educated and informed point of view cannot be heard."
And when did we drop from 10% to only 6% of the population?
Lisa
Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security -- B. FranklinCongrats to the couple...
I was there, I saw it all.
I was there, I saw it all. Immigrants, Muslims, homosexuals, terrorists. Disease-ridden degenerates. They had to go. Strength through unity. Unity through faith. I'm a God-fearing Englishman and I'm goddamn proud of it!
~ Lewis Prothero form V for Vendetta ~
Did they base this character on Bill O'Reilly?
Double Standard
If the mangy mutt.. Dog the Bounty Hunter was taken off the air for the racial slurs he uttered in the privacy of his home.. how come O'Reilly isn't taken off the air for his hateful, homophobic comments? New standard: anyone who likes/agrees with O'Reilly is on my shit list.. for real! Instant Karma's gonna get you O'Reilly and I hope everyone sees when it slaps you in the f-ing face.
double standard indeed
I was in such a mellow mood until I saw that clip. This man was quite upsetting. Do people listen to him?
Dr. Laura Berman was very logical and was able to point out how illogical his statements were. I like how she handled it.
I'm with fabouly. I live in
I'm with fabouly. I live in the UK and I cannot believe this crap is shown on tv! It's outrageous he can get away for being so homophobic.
I am genuinely shocked that something like that could be televised. I feel sorry for any American teens who may have seen this and been in the process of coming out or have just come out etc because [understandably] they won't want to be open about who they are and they are with because of people like this guy. Sorry that doesn't really make sense I'm just so riled up about watching that.
I think Dr. Berman was amazing for putting up with that knobhead though! I certainly couldn't have stayed as calm and collected as she was.
This is the first time I think I have commented on a blog and yet I read every blog entry posted. Thanks scribegrrl for a really insightful blog entry!
Quite embarrassing
O'Reilly's homophobia is sometimes embarrassingly obvious - even more so when he tries to deny it.
This is probably the most homophobic report I've ever seen him do. Take a gander at that.
He (along with many other people of course) have these certain beliefs (among them the belief that gay couples are inadequate parents and the children end up ill-adjusted because of it) not supported by any reason whatsoever. He simply believes this stuff in spite of all the evidence to the contrary. He and people similar to him can never back up their opinions with facts - even if they are right about something - they have faith that they are correct and that is the end of it. Even if he argues with someone who is on the left wing who is completely in the wrong, all he can do is yell and cut off their mic.
The only good thing about "reports" like these are the guests who simply tell him how ridiculous he's being and how unfounded these opinions about this really are.
I actually hate many commentators more than him but that doesn't mean I can actually stand him enough to watch his programme.
__________________
"The world will not greet you with open arms, but with a clenched fist."
He is way off his rocker...again!
Bill O'Reilly makes me sick. He asks Dr. Berman to respect his "valid" opinion, but he cuts her off and blatantly disrespects her opinion. He contradicts himself all the time, and tries to say "I wrote my book for young gay Americans who are being bullied...blah blah blah." Get a grip!
How is posing together as a couple for an innocent picture sexually inappropriate? If that's the case, they should ban prom pics too. It's ok to be sexually explicit as long as you're straight? This dude aggravates me in so many ways. And to think my girlfriend's grandpa absolutely loves Bill O'Reilly. Thankfully he has never done anything homophobic in the four years I've been dating his granddaughter. After all, he is a self proclaimed reformed bigot who has two lesbian daughters and a lesbian granddaughter. And for that, I will overlook the fact that he eats up all the poison that comes out of Bill O'Reilly's mouth.
Finally!
finally someone stood their ground with this ass! i don't think there was anyone better to defend these girls, dr. bergman was AMAZING! i'd give my opinion on the situation but she did such a great job that i'm just gonna say "what she said!"
also. you would think if you wanted to do a "news" report, if you can even call it that, you would figure out how to say the name of the city correctly. it's waukegan. not wekaugan. "wa", like water, "kegan". it's not that hard, bill. further proof of exactly how uneducated you are. but don't worry, i have a suggestion that should help you not sound like such a jackass anymore. are you ready for it, bill?? just shut the hell up. :]
[["And we must remember that all these things, the nuances, the anomalies, the subtleties, which we assume only accessorize our days, are effective for a much larger and nobler cause. They are here to save our lives. I know the idea
What is wrong with that man!
What is wrong with that man! What is wrong with the FOX network to keep this jerk on TV! If he had said the same thing about a bi racial or any other ethnic couple, would he still have a job?
I think its time we found out who are his sponsors and band their products. I think he will discover how big "6%" of the population is.
Things I learned from
Things I learned from watching this interview:
1. GAYZ HAS TEH SEX ALL TEH TYME! Heterosexual couples, on the other hand, are chaste and pure and spend their time adopting puppies and never thinking about sex unless they really, really want a baby.
2. There's no reason why gay couples can't just identify as "friends." Except, you know, for all that sex they're constantly having.
3. "Because that's how it's always been!" is a perfectly valid argument. Don't worry about the fact that it HASN'T always been that way or that some social normals are unfair and nonsensical. That kind of thinking is liable to hurt your wittle head.
Thanks, Bill!
Hmm...
Um okay...
.
hahaha
i adore that woman!!!
"i know, i do, i'm laughing because you said i'm gonna be in trouble!"
if you wanna see something amazing... here is stephen colbert on the o'reilly factor!!
the best part of it is that Stephen TAKES OVER... it turned into the Colbert factor real fast. oh my god. bill tries to keep his own but stephen is too fast... it's sooo funny.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DJvY_RftA4I
Academic. Academic! I call it Reception of Medieval Ages...
Being European (from a very small yet quite well respected country boasting a semi-direct democracy in between high mountains ;-)) this truly is yet another confirmation of the bad picture of "America" we get every now and then.
The America which is "running" and judging our Planet. Red States having way too much influence - and a society (i.e. those parts that get represented in the media and thereby kinda seem to form public opinion) who in a way still have to live in a medieval state of repression. Kinda. I know there are people with liberal views (like AE readerts, Ms Berman etc.) but they are in a permanent battle struggling against conservative moral standards and "ethics" in society.
Haha - O'Reilly should hear himself: if those people who set the base for role model America with the French Revolution stuck with established rules, Amercia/The US would not even exist today!!!!
Ridiculous his stressing "academic".... ehmmm... ever heard of the Humanist idea of free thought? (P.S.: goes back to the Greek - where the word "academic" has its origin too, btw, Mr. O'Reilly!). Yeah, this man was a teacher? No wonder only morons (and a few "rebels" ;-) ) can come out of his class/the education system!
I truly feel for every one of you who has to cope with such an ignorant society who on the whole (for their negative aspects) seem to have much in common with a medieval one where fears were big and belief in nonsense was normal and reasonable thinking was not an option. O'Reilly and his alikes very much are defending a matter-of-fact reception of Medieval behaviour...and as a law student I must end with what really is a sign of evolution and progress:
HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!!!
Ever heard of them, Mr. O'Reilly? No, we don't mean yours, we mean ours!
Would love to see him taken to the European court in Strasbourg... damn it. This is just a dream...
actio supra reactio // in vino veritas
Progress
First of all Mr. O'Reilly, it's pronounced Waw-kee-gan. I guess researching how to fortify your homophobic agenda among the baby boomers didn't leave much time to actually research, or even ask, how to correctly pronounce the city.
As much as it upsets me to hear the things he says, for decades so many GLBT individuals around the world won't see the level of acceptance we now have here in the states. I'm not that old, but our visibility is still new and only 20 years ago our President had, for the first time publicly, uttered the acronym 'AIDS' and acknowledged that it was not the 'Gay Cancer' or a gay disease. This is almost an entire decade since the onset of the 'AIDS panic' that he addressed the issue. He spent his entire presidency ignoring what has become a pandemic - All because it was seen as a 'gay disease'.
The fact that FoxNews elects to debate the validly of the voted high school cutest couple, who happen to be lesbian; whether or not we agree with all the views, is progress. Progress may not be as fast as we'd like, but we should never forget how fast and far we have progressed.
_________
"If you go flying back through time, and you see somebody else flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid eye contact." - Jack Handey
Jealous, much?
It's ironic that the men who just wrote "Kids are Americans, Too!" out of some purported goodwill for the littlest patriots, and who repeatedly stresses the that these are minors he is talking about, has the gall to publicly broadcast, on national television, the names of two minors, their pictures, their high school, and their hometown.
Also, if these are just kids experimenting, then why is he making such a big deal about it?
"Out of the box is where I live." -Starbuck
What an Ass
Laura Berman is frickin
Laura Berman is frickin awesome. I love her saying it was good for it to become normalized.
What a jackass O'Reilly is (duh) saying how we shouldnt normalize it.
Yes.. don't forget.. homosexuality is just like drugs... Once you go gay.. you never stray..
It's also so fantastic that a lesbian couple was voted best couple. Congrats ladies!
Wow
WWWoowww..
I have no words.. I literally just watched in digust.. There are people like him?!
blech.. yuckii!
I am ashamed!
lesbian without borders
...
Unfortunately you're wrong.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKu_QA8Bn9o
Certainly not in Germany
We have two gay mayors, Berlin's and Hamburg's. We have an openly lesbian christian democratic politician. Openly gay comedians have their own TV shows or are frequently invited on shows. Some even won TV awards, thanking their life partners on national TV and their was no uproar whatsoever. No one cared.
So even though I sometimes hate this country, and I've always wanted to move/life in San Francisco, I'm becoming more and more repulsed by the way the American right wing agenda is not only getting shoved in our faces through the media, but also by how many people still fall for that.
After seeing this interview, I am honestly scared of having to live in the US. I know that there are people who don't hate "us", but sadly the right wings fundamentalist seem to get more and more powerful.
that depends
european countries can not just be mashed into one weird mix of countries...
if what we're discussing is where one could get away with saying that it's wrong to say that a lesbian couple is cute, because that would encourage homosexual behaviour, then europe would be very divided on this issue, i believe.
if someone made comments such as these in norway, sweden or denmark, there'd be uproar all over the media. these countries are also at the top of the world when it comes to gender equality. sadly, the us is far down on that list.
if you look at countries like poland, it's much worse than in the US. they've banned any mention of homosexuality in schools, and also banned gay people from teaching. (this was in the media a year ago though, so i don't know if it's gotten worse or better.)
in moscow, a prominent politician got the crap beaten out of him for attending a gay pride parade a few months back.
Germany, as someone has said before me is a pretty open minded country, and i think you'd have problems getting away with such a comment there as well
britain has legalized gay marriage, and though there are right wing people in britain, such as in any other country, i doubt a well known journalist would dare to voice the crap that this guy did.
there are many other countries as well, but i'm only voicing my opinions on those where i have some background knowledge on the homosexuality issue.
many major european cities have had gay men as their mayors.
in norway the finance minister was a gay man a couple of years back, and before that, a lesbian was the minister of justice. in january, a lesbian athlete was even voted role model of the year.
bottom line i think there is a lot of homophobia in the US. and there is also a lot of homophobia in CERTAIN European countries. but some again are way ahead of the US when it comes to matters such as equality for women and gays.
It does happen in Europe !
I'm from Poland so things like that happen here all the time:/
But I guess that men like Bill O'Reilly probably are so atracted to other men that they say such stupid things just to deny it:P wait till he'll get cought with some younger gay from Fox News :P
"things like that don't happen in Europe"?
Some time ago some nutter in Holland said in an interview that all gays should be thrown of a high tower head first!
A year and a half later he was invited as one of the "experts" on "youth and sexuality within islam" on television!
Just saying!
"call me old fashioned but I prefer feminism that leaves a little something to the imagination!"
Bravo Dr. Berman!
Wow Bill O' Reilly is one scary asshole! And was he really a high school teacher? He does remind me of my 6th grade history teacher, a downright racist, closed minded sorry excuse of a human being. Thanks "Sarge"
Anyone see "Sexual Healing"?
I've loved Laura Berman since she had a series on Showtime called Sexual Healing. On the show, she advised all sorts of couples with sexual problems, heteros, gay men, and lesbians alike. It was such a nice portrayal of real-life sex and the problems that can come with it, but I don't think it got picked up for a second season. Too bad.
As for the clip, nothing coming from Bill O'Reilly surprises me anymore. I think the only thing that would truly shock me is if he started advocating for tolerance and speaking rationally about other various subjects, but I'm not holding my breath.