From gimmick to gifted: Kate Mulgrew, Seven of Nine and padded bras

i totally dug voyager, too!  

but admitting this to a bona fide trekkie, as i have done, is the worst thing one can do because it leads the way to a nerdy lecture as to why voyager is actually the worst of the star trek franchises.

something about the first rule of science fiction/star trek being that you can't resort to time travel to fix all your problem plots and tie up loose ends.

i have to admit, the use of time travel and present-janeway meeting future janeway to help the present-crew get out of the delta quadrant was kinda lame.  seven years of aimless space ambling?  and ALL it took for them to get home was TIME-TRAVEL?! 

but i guess for the non-trekkies who watched voyager, it's more about the eye-candy.  hey, i can admit to that!

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you can dance

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Before there was Janeway, before there was Mrs. Colombo, there was Mary Ryan Fenelli. Ah, the days of skipping class to watch the saga of and the endless bickering between Mary and Delia Reid. 

A ghra mo chroi.  Kate Mulgrew will always be Mary Fenelli to me.  

In all this time, I've never figured it out; whether it is the voice, the smirk, the eyes or the bawdy sense of humor.  Whatever it is, it still works.   

Never have I been a blue calm sea.  I have always been a storm...SLN

Losing lesbian street cred every second of the day @ attictales.com

I found G.L. Dartt's fanfic about 6 or 7 years ago.  She's an exceptional writer.  The stories are well written, the characters stay true to form and the sex scenes...well...oh my oh my...And I'm not just saying all this because we're both from the Maritimes.:)

I think there were a lot of doubt especially from the female fans of the show, when it came to Seven of Nine back when she was introduced to the show. But it turns out Jeri Ryan is one of the best if not THE best actress on the show. She might be boobs and ass but more than anything, I thought her coming to the show took the acting on the show up a notch whereas the actress who played Kes wasn't all that strong in her performance.

The scenes between Seven and Janeway... well, Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan acted their behinds off and I thought that Ryan got a lot more out of the crew than anyone else. She's a really good actress and considering some of the dialogue she had to spew, she did an amazing and very convincing job.

The two parter episode Dark Frontier had some amazing acting and should definitely be watched by anyone interested to see Mulgrew and Ryan duke it out. In fact check out the whole 4th and 5th season, they were amazing :D

Seriously, that's like having your cake and eating it to. I'm a total trekkie. I watched the original in re-runs and when TNG started I was skeptical...and I was only 10! LOL

I totally dug Voyager because finally having a woman captain was a dream come true. Plus I had just come out a year before at 17, so I was looking at it through my brand new "it's okay to drool over women" eyes.

I was delighted by 7 of 9. It never occurred to me that she was JUST eye candy. If she had no brain and used her sexuality to get everything she wanted, and was all "I need a man to save me", then she'd just be eye candy.

This is one of my all time favourite shows. It really saddened me when it took a big hairy nose-dive it's 7th season. C'mon, Seven and Chakotay??

Stupid.

Otherwise, the subtext between Janeway and Seven was mouth watering and more then a little addictive. I was hooked hard come season 4.

--Did I mention that I program my TI-83 while shining my pocket protector for fun? Oh yeah, you know you want this...

Speaking of Kate Mulgrew, did anyone ever watch the late 80s show, Heartbeat? It was about a women's medical clinic in Los Angeles. Although it was an ensemble show, Kate Mulgrew was essentially the lead.

What was striking about that the show was that, of the four main characters (the founders of the clinic), one (Gail Strickland) was a lesbian. And she even had a girlfriend (Gina Hecht). I remember being quite disappointed by how dispassionate the lesbian relationship was, but I was thrilled that the characters existed.

ST: VOY came on when I was in fifth grade and I instantly became HOOKED on the show and was obsessed with her female captain. At the time, I thought it was because Janeway was a strong confident woman and a good role model for adolescent little me. Now I know it was probably more than that.....

Auburn hair, husky voice. That is so totally my type!

I love that lol, 'why i like voy and i can sum it up with one word, JANEWAY' lol couldn't agree more :D

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I loved Voyager, now years after fanatically waiting on the latest vhs tapes to be released (yes, vhs lol.. my gf at the time used to love making fun of the shelves full of voyager tapes) I've fallen back in love with it again. G.L. Darrt's stories are fantastic, ty so much for that link scribegrrrl!

Its like a dream come true, a love story involving 2 of my favorite characters from the show, and its a LOVE story, not some porn for the sake of porn or melodramatic garbage where they brood entire 'episodes' before realising they love each other *cough* loving annabelle *cough* imagine me and you *cough*

Only up to the 4th story despite reading the entire afternoon away.. hoping desperately the style dosen't change, I was in tears when Kathryn finally got Seven back to her quarters after spending 3 months thinking she was dead O_o Just the thought of the captain being so vulnerable.. Then again I also cried when Tara got shot and put up with a month of being laughed at by my partner...

 Seriously thinking of calling in sick to work tomorrow.. must keep reading.. there has to be a wedding somewhere in one of these stories and I'm not skipping any to find out. :D

I can't believe I only found that particular thread NOW.

 As my name on this site can show, I am a hardcore ST: V and Janeway fan.

And a trekkie too. I agree that they fucked up the end of the show, but who cares, it was seven years of watching Janeway go through Hell and back, and oh God, Kate Mulgrew is AWESOME. I think she is one of those Hollywood actresses who are wholly underestimated! She is so good!

 I hated Seven too, before, especially because she was stealing screen time away from Janeway, but after a while I warmed up to the idea, I even had the greatest pleasure of doing an academic presentation at the annual conference of the American Pop Culture Association that was partly based on the mentorship between Janeway and Seven, and the way Janeway uses Da Vinci to introduce Seven to her "humanity"! That shows you how I am truly deeply, madly in love with this TV show.

Anyways, I agree...Seven and Chakotay? Come on! And Janeway would never have done what she did in Endgame to bring her ship back--it means genocide every way you put it, and Janeway would never have compromised herself that way--neither would have annoying do-gooder Chakotay for that instance, or B'elanna or Tome Paris! This episode only shows how eager they were to conclude the show...

And to all of those extreme Trekkies who are out there: go to Hell. ST: V was one of the best Star Trek. It had humor, moral questions and all, and after all, as Isaac Asimov put it, what is Sci-fi if only a reflect of our moral interrogations on life? 

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