The American Film Institute's best 100 moviesThe American Film Institute has revised its list of the 100 greatest movies of all time. I have to say I'm glad I wasn't on the "panel of experts." It was traumatic enough just tallying up your votes for the hot 100 — imagine actually trying to select the 100 best films from the universe of film based on your own so-called expertise. Jeez. (Technically, the experts chose the 100 best films from a pre-selected list of 400 movies, but let's not get picky.) Anyway, my sympathy for the panel won't stop me from complaining about the list. Let's just start with the most obvious source of annoyance: Citizen Kane (1941) tops the list. Again.
Fine, fine. It's a great movie, I guess. I've seen it once and don't particularly care to see it again. The point is, where is the suspense? This movie is No. 1 on every list everywhere. Let's mix it up a little, eh? Give someone else a chance, Orson. The Graduate (1967) is at No. 17. Why does everyone love this movie so much? I find it self-indulgent, misogynist and eye-roll–inducing. At least it's starting to fall out of favor: It was initially No. 7 on the list. Of course I admit that Anne Bancroft was phenomenal (and, incidentally, was only six years older than Dustin Hoffman).
No. 24 is E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1984). Really? I loved it at the time, but I haven't seen it since it was first released. Is this just nostalgia on the part of the voters, or an attempt to curry favor with Spielberg? Or maybe the panel is really composed of aliens rather than experts. That would explain all the science fiction in the top 30: Aliens love to throw us off with inaccurate images of themselves.
Cabaret (1972) is new to the list this year, at No. 63.
Wait. It's new to the list? That's insane, especially considering the overrated schmaltzfest Forrest Gump (1994) made the first version of the list and is at No. 76 this year. Ugh. Speaking of chum, Jaws (1975) is No. 56, down eight spots. Although I recognize the greatness of that flick and the coolness of sharks in general, I don't like to give Richard Dreyfuss this kind of spotlight. The guy loves himself enough already; in fact, I don't think we really need to worry about global warming, because we'll eventually be able to just freeze Dreyfuss' giant ego and make a new ice cap out of it.
Of course, many of my favorites did make the list, including Casablanca (1942) at No. 3, The Wizard of Oz (1939) at No. 10 and Sunset Boulevard (1950) at No. 16.
More greats: To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) at No. 25, All About Eve (1950) at No. 28 and Annie Hall (1977) at No. 35. And The Sound of Music (1965) is at No. 40, up 15 spots in the list. It'll get to No. 1 one of these days, I just know it!
I'll stop listing the good ones now, because there are so many, like West Side Story (1961) (No. 51), Tootsie (1982) (No. 69) and The Silence of the Lambs (1991) (No. 74). I was temporarily confused when I saw Swing Time (1936) at No. 90 because I immediately thought of that great Christine Lahti flick Swing Shift (1984). That one's good, but probably not that good. Ultimately, it all seems arbitrary. How to explain why The Graduate falls while The Sound of Music rises? AFI chief executive Jean Picker Firstenberg (Picker Firstenberg? Really? Like, she picks 'em first? I'm surprised her first name isn't Star.) credits the list itself:
I see: This is an ouroboros-like game. Maybe if I make a list of the 100 reasons I should be Queen of the F---ing Universe, people will just argue about the order of the reasons rather than the very premise of the list. Of the 400 nominated films, 43 were released in the past ten years, but only four of those made the top 100 (The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), Saving Private Ryan (1998), Titanic (1997) and The Sixth Sense (1999)). Here are some nominees that did not make the list (I'm not saying they all should have made it; I'm just giving you a sampling, though naturally I tend to notice the ones I like!):
Visit the AFI website to see the official ballot and the final list of 100. Submitted by on June 21, 2007 - 2:54pm. |
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sweet!
Now that was some good timing, I can just continue my movie indulgence from Sarah's sports list. I love this site. It keeps me from actually having to search the www for anything. Who needs google? I think they need to retire some movies from the list. After so many nears in the top ten, just remove them from the options. They could break free and get all kinds of whacky.
I would love to see Eternal Sunshine make the list.
How in the world
'Bring it on' didn't make it??
First, I thought: greatest movies of all times? Aren't we US-centric! Then I saw that they had an 'American' in there and all was good.
And then: I absolutely love "The Graduate" and this love has been alive for about 7 years now and I disagree strongly - but after all, life would be pretty boring if we all liked the same things. I never got why Americans were so crazy about "West Side Story". Just like "The Sound of Music", it seems to be too big a part of American movie mythology. The list is so amazingly mainstream.
A tragic injustice leaving...
damn it!
Great, now I fell in love with an avatar.
And Mariah was robbed - robbed I say.
I'm smarter then you on my worst day then you on your best day
ditto
nice effin' pic! judge judy rocks!
i have to disagree with both you and scribegrrrl about citizen kane, though.
it's a fanTASTic movie! it's one of those movies that, if i happen to come across it playing on t.v., i absolutely must drop everything to watch. it's SOO innovative for its time and even in regards to today. the composition of each frame, the manipulation of people and objects within the frame to heighten the psychological aspects of the film -- unbeLIEVable! that's why it shall top this list for a LONG time to come and why it will have my support. plus, all the tenuous social and psychological issues that the movie explores continue to be OH-so-relevant to today.
ROSEBUD!
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AFI's site
Okay the rotating film posters on the AFI site gave me the worst headache. What happened to the beauty of just a list? I don't need to spin with my results. :P
I remember when they first began this list all of our families had it on our fridge doors. They had little boxes so you could check them off as you watched them. I remember thinking how odd it was that my friends' fridges had the same thing on 'em that mine did.
One day, let's hope The
Sure Citizen Kane
Sure Citizen Kane doesn't deserve to be number 1 (but than again people would argue on how hot the sun is but no one would ask to remove that completely)
The storyline is only ok but I had this discussion in a movies class and we came up with what we thought was the real reason why Citizen Kane is Number 1. There is a high chance the reason is because every single movie since that movie has copied it in some way. Whether they know it or not. You look at movies before Citizen Kane and after you can tell a difference. (and after I mean when it was first appreciated as it was a flop when it first came out)
Because when you steal from someone what better way than to call it a homage.
To Harpy: With the limited space of the avatar you might only be able to put words like "I'm talking!" or "Baloney!" on it.
-The life of society moves in a circle. Only those burdened with a common affliction understand each other. -Kafka
What about our own list
of lesbian movies?? But I guess the list would be the top 20 movies, because I can´t think of really good lesbian movies that can be on a list as the greatest movies of all time!
Ok, mybe I´m not making any sense... but I´m still happy about the Bad Girls Recap... I´m happy to be on AE!
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AFI
The AFI list is made by film geeks, as it should be. The list isn't about popular movies but of technically great movies. The movies on the list are special or first of their kind. Citizen Kane will always be number one. I am a film geek but I do know how boring the film is. However, Welles did things in that movie that have never been done before. These things are now standard in every movie. The opening scene alone is fabulous. There is not a weak point in that movie from a technical stand point. The fades, the use of shadow, the overlap of dialog and images, and you don't want to get me started on the lighting. This movie is number one because of cinematograpghy not because it is a fun film to watch.
It is the same for A birth of a Nation. How many people have even seen that movie? I have but I don't think that is normal. The racism in that movie is horrid but it is a beautiful movie technically.
Am I the only person who feels that the AFI list are a great game? The quote list is a fun drinking game. Or maybe I am a bigger film geek then I thought. No one likes to play with me. :(
I would play with you
Personally, I would dump The Sound of Music and Titanic. Sure, they were popular and who doesn't like to sing "how do you solve a problem like Maria" (a song, by way, I wanted to use as our wedding music when my partner and I got hitched but she said no), but they were not innovative in the least. The Titanic is great computer effects and all but, come on, take a really dramatic event and, hey, lets add Billy Zane running around shooting a gun. WTF??. Anwyay, I would ditch those movies and Guess Whose Coming to Dinner and add in something by Preston Sturgess, Sam Fuller, or the movie His Girl Friday (what dialogue, what pacing). Oh yeah, I've seen Birth of a Nation too. While I think i preferred Broken Blossoms (the closet scene) or Way Down East among Griffiths films, there is no question about Birth of a Nation's place in cinema. Totally agree with you about Citizen Kane. I remember when I saw Clouzot's Diaboliques and realized how many movies have ripped off or riffed off that film.
Okay, a quote: From which movie is "The calla lillies are in bloom again. Such a strange flower; suitable for any occasion. I carried them on my wedding day and now I carry them in memory of something that has died". It isn't on the list but a fun movie nevertheless.
I'd so play...
::raises hand frantically::
Ooo! I know! It's from Stage Door, right? I first saw that when I was 11 or 12 and was immersing myself in all things Ginger Rogers. You're right -- what a fun movie, and what a cast! Ginger, Katharine Hepburn, Ann Miller, Eve Arden... thanks for bringing up such a great little movie!
You are absolutely correct...
Yes, it is from Stage Door; a hoot of a movie. I loved Lucy in that movie. Personally, I think Ginger Rogers was underrated and not just for the dancing. Kitty Foyle, come on.
Okay, I think it's your turn to pose the quote.
Wow...
I'd nearly forgotten about Kitty Foyle! Awesome performance, and pretty heady stuff for that era. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't she win the Oscar with that performance over Katharine Hepburn that year? ITA -- I think Ginger was highly underrated as an actress as well. Cute as a friggin' button, too. :)
Okay. I'll quote from one of my very favorite comedies. I think most anything quoted from it could be a gimme, but that could just be my multiple viewings talking. But here 'tis, short 'n' sweet:
"Taffeta, darling."
film geeks unite!
Well said about Citizen Cane.
I love perusing the AFI lists - a quote list drinking game sounds good to me!
My favorites
Some of my personal favorites:
Forrest Gump
Amelie, City of God
Ocean's Eleven
When Harry Met Sally, Closer
Better than Chocolate
The Shawshank Redemption
to be fair . . .
oh.
I'll always say
Citizen Kane
if the AFI really cared
if the AFI really cared about this list...it would release a top 50 or top 100 films of each decade since film was invented. that way there would be at least be more variety, and newer films would get their due (i totally agree with you scribegrrl about "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind").
i really think these lists come partly out of the AFI's love of film, but more strongly out of the minds (and greedy wallets) of studio execs who push the idea in order to generate dvd sales and "---- anniversary" special edition discs.