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Tyler Perry to write and direct a feature film version of "For Colored Girls"

A few months ago I wrote about Jasmine Guy directing a stage version of Ntozake Shange's famous 1976 play For Girls Who Have Committed Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf in Atlanta this summer.

Now Lionsgate has announced a feature film version of the play to be adapted, directed and produced by Tyler Perry.

Tyler Perry plans to tell us about black women's experiences

Yes, that Tyler Perry — the man who made $125 million last year by bringing us movies like Madea Goes to Jail, the latest in his popular franchise of wacky-grandma movies he has written, produced, and starred in.

Because there's nothing funnier than movies starring a black man in a dress — especially to all the talented black actresses who can't get good roles if their names aren't Halle Berry, Queen Latifah, Jennifer Hudson, or Beyoncé.

Perry as Madea in Madea Goes to Jail

To be fair, Perry has also made Why Did I Get Married? (2007), which was pretty good (and more importantly, introduced me to Jill Scott's acting talent). And he's a co-executive producer for Precious: based on the novel Push by Sapphire (2009), which is a serious, lesbian-inclusive look at poverty and abuse (although it's worth pointing out that Perry didn't actually write or direct this film).

But For Colored Girls is the exact opposite of the parade of stereotypes that was Diary of a Mad Black Woman (2005), and Daddy's Little Girls (2007), which revolved around the stereotype of the lonely career woman (played by Gabrielle Union). Not to mention the Madea movies.

For Colored Girls — a series of searing poems telling stories of love, abandonment, domestic abuse and other issues faced by black women — dismantles exactly the kind of stereotypes Perry has spent his career promoting.

In a recent article about "Tyler Perry's Gender Problem", The Nation's Courtney Young wrote:

Though Perry repeatedly references his admiration for and allegiance to African-American women as a foundation of his work, his portrayal of women of color undermines the complexity of their experience through his reductionist approach to his characters and his dependence on disquieting gender politics. Perry may see himself as creating modern-day fairy tales for black women, but what he may not realize is that fairy tales, in general, have never been kind to women.

Perry, Young goes on to write, uses a traditional religious paradigm as the linchpin for his work, which relies on traditional ideas of gender and reinforces rather than revolutionizes the marginalized way that black womanhood has been portrayed in popular culture.

In other words: the female characters Perry writes tend towards caricature rather than complexity. And For Colored Girls is nothing if not complex.

Jezebel's Latoya Peterson had a similar reaction to the news, asking "Is Tyler Perry the Right Man to Tell Black Women's Stories?"

Directing? Fine. Producing? Cool. But writing and adapting it? From someone who writes flat, two-dimensional woman characters in all of his work?

Even under the best of circumstances, I would be skeptical of a black man tackling a project like this. To bring Shange's vision to light would take an understanding of why this work of art is so deeply intertwined with black women's articulation of their own struggles under racist, patriarchal oppression — something that unfortunately, many still deny to this day. Black women's voices are often lost in discussions of race (because all the blacks are men) and discussions of gender (because all women are white) and Ntozake Shange was beyond brave to put down all of these ideas and present them for public consumption even in the face of heavy criticism from black men when the play was released.

Do I think it's impossible for Perry to make a decent adaptation of this play? No. But let's assume for a moment that he can — it's still hard to argue that a talented black female filmmaker wouldn't bring more to the table for this particular project. Why not let an actual black woman write and direct this movie?

The answer, of course, is money. Perry is a bankable asset, a name with a large following. There are a lot of talented black female filmmakers out there — women like Gina Prince-Bythewood (The Secret Life of Bees, Love and Basketball), Angela Robinson (Hung, The L Word), and Tina Mabry (Mississippi Damned), to name a few — who could make this film, and probably do a better job of it than Perry. But Lionsgate would rather go the financially safer route, even if it means the movie isn't quite as good as it could be, which is pretty much what the studios always do, regardless of the current state of the economy.

But if studios won't even hire black women to make a movie about the experiences of black women, what will they hire them for?

Not much, apparently. There have only been a handful of major feature films written and directed by black women. According to sistersincinema.com, the first was Darnell Martin's I Like it Like That in 1994, followed by Robinson's Herbie Fully Loaded in 2005 and Sanaa Hamri's Something New in 2006, and Prince-Bythewood's The Secret Life of Bees, Martin's Cadillac Records in 2008, and Hamri's The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2 in 2008.

L to R: Filmmakers Darnell Martin, Gina Prince-Bythewood, and Angelina Robinson

That means only six of the thousands of studio films made in America over the last 50 years have been written and/or directed by black women. Make it eight, in case I've missed a movie or two.

While black female filmmakers are making inroads, the fact that you can still count the number of major studio films written and/or directed by black women (and women in general, but that's a post for another day) on one or maybe two hands is disheartening, to say the least.

How will black female filmmakers ever become bankable assets themselves, if they're routinely overlooked in favor of men?

In a recent interview, Mabry told us that seeing films like Prince-Bythewood's Love and Basketball "made me believe that a woman could be a powerful filmmaker if given the correct training." Hiring Perry to write, direct and produce For Colored Girls sends the opposite message.

Although maybe we should just be glad he's not starring in it, too.

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  • KIM 's picture

    i dont think

    he's that stereotypical. if its not you its someone you know. But we do need more women in the business.

    SAVING THE WORLD. ONE MILE AT A TIME.

    ketchup__fights's picture

    For the record...

    It's actually "For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf."
    Anonymous's picture

    I Wish They Had Picked Someone Else To Direct ...

    Shange's For Colored GirlsWho Have Considered Sucidie When The Rainbow Is Enuf  preferably Kasi Lemmons.  I would pick Suzanne De Passe as the producer. Or heck Jasmine Guy would had been just fine as the director since she's doing the stage adaption. 

     

    It is completely ironic he wants to direct this as a film adaption. (puffing) after writing films centering African-American womyn as "victims" of x, y and z. 

     

    Madea Goes To Jail wasn't the best film he has made.  

    I hope for him to back up his directing skillz  on this infamous African-American play he better have phenonmenal African-American womyn to back this film up. 

     How will black female filmmakers ever become bankable assets themselves, if they're routinely overlooked in favor of men?

     My Answer: When womyn stop supporting their work.

    Thanks for the news, Sarah warn.  

    Scarab's picture

    So NOT happy about this at

    So NOT happy about this at all. Perry is most definitely NOT the person with the skill to  bring the complexities of this Shange classic to the screen!
    Luna's picture

     Tyler Perry has proven

     Tyler Perry has proven himself to be quite bankable and at the end of the day for an major studio like Lionsgate that is all that matters. $!!

     

    -I speak in random thoughts

    ketchup__fights's picture

    This Jezebel comment says it all..

    "This is sort of like hiring Judd Apatow to write a film adaptation of The Vagina Monologues."
    Anonymous's picture

    I disagree.

    I disagree with Tyler Perry adapting this play.

    Another female movie (as well as music videos) director is Sanaa Hamri. She directed the movie "Something New". :)

    Thanks for the information, Sarah Warn.

    Sarah Warn's picture

    Thanks!

    Good catch re: Sanaa Hamri! I forgot to mention her, which is odd considering I've seen Something New several times (I'm a sucker for Sanaa Lathan ;)

    Sarah

    Anonymous's picture

    You're welcome.

    Actress Sanaa Lathan is one of my favorite actresses. :)

    Oh I want to remind you, Lincoln Heights' season 4 begins September 14th!! If you want to see reruns of Lincoln Heights, the television channel TVOne is showing them.

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    Lincoln Heights

    Thanks for posting that. I completely forgot that it starts back up soon.

    SapphicDay's picture

    Grew tired of Tyler Perry This and Tyler Perry That ENOUGH!

    "For Colored Girls — a series of searing poems telling stories of love, abandonment, domestic abuse and other issues faced by black women — dismantles exactly the kind of stereotypes Perry has spent his career promoting."

    Well the movie hasn't been made yet  so I'm not doubting that this will have Perry's signature "Pitiful Black Woman" trademark.

    The other night I was watching a Tyler Perry movie:  Diary Of A Mad Black Woman.  Granted I had missed a significant portion when I first caught the movie.  Originally I came in on the part where the ridiculously successful cheating scoundrel of a husband had the heart attack and Kimberly Elyse (who played the long suffering wife) returns to care for him after the woman he left her for leaves him.  Basically though despite caring for him she figuratively kicks his butt.  This lead me to think: "Wow Perry really has our back and empowers us"  Pffftt.

    The the other night I watched the movie from the beginning and when I saw what was going on I thought: This guy is supppsed to be a prominent Atlanta attorney and he's doing this crazy sh*t?  I lived with an attorney and what Perry portrayed was beyond unbelievable.

    And I did not like "Why Did I Get Married"either so I am left to ponder who made Tyler Perry the contemporary spokes person for African American women?

    I am skeptical that this vehicle will possess the edge that poet Nikki Giovannni imbued into her work.

    It will be revisionist in the sense that Perry will steal credit.

    It will be promoted as: Tyler Perry presents: For Colored Girls..Blah Blah Puke.

    Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    Tyler Perry's The Woman in Red Needs the Love of a Good Man

    I've been mad about this since it was announced on Playbill.com on Friday. Passed the info along to friends who were equally upset. Topic of discussion for some friends and I at dinner on Sat: the complete and utter wrongness of him doing this film. This is a piece of work that many, many women have said changed their lives, made them wanna work in the arts to bring the stories of women of color to the forefront (myself included). To have Tyler Perry, a man, adapt and direct this is slap in the face. It's not enough that women's stories have been interpreted by men for years, but now to take one of the most influential pieces of work created BY a woman of color FOR women of color and have it been presented by Tyler Perry is an outrage. I don't care that he was raised by an African American woman and spent many hours in African American beauty shops listening to African American women recount their lives as he was growing up. NOTHING qualifies him to tell this story. Please someone tell me what Tyler Perry can tell me about what's it's like to be an African American woman? His time and experience as African American woman ends when he takes off his ridiculous Medea costume (which don't get me started on my anger in the whole Madea, Big Mamma's House, Norbit etc portrayal of older and/or full figured women). Hiring him to do this shows a complete disrepect for the piece and for the people that it represents. The majority of Tyler Perry's work tends to be completely paternalistic in nature, all this woman needs is a good man in her life and everything is OK. Even the best of his work, Why Did I Get Married?, helps in it's own way to maintain that theme. I doubt he'll interpret the piece in the appropriate manner. Furthermore, it's a choreopoem, an abstract piece that really only works as such. To adapt it for film would completely change the structure and character of it. The only time it was filmed was as a stage piece.  If he wanted to have a hand in this, why not only serve as a producer! Give a African American woman a chance to adapt and direct! Whoopi Goldberg was working hard to do a revival of this on stage staring India Arie, but it fell through due to funding. Why not swing your massive wallet towards that, Tyler Perry?! It's completely and totally disrepectful and arrogant for him to do this. The fact that this was greenlit sheds light on the lack of thought process and, even more, adaquate representation at studios. There was just a story the other week about the complete lack of diversity in film directors at major studios. I'm so utterly sick and tired of everyone else being allowed and encouraged to tell my story, in specificity, but moreover the stories of community which they cannot understand the complete ins and outs of (and that extends to all: people of color, women, LGBT, etc). And yes, I understand some stories are universal, are rooted in the human experience, come from the heart, etc. BUT this is not one of them! THIS STORY is rooted in the African American Female experience!  Sigh, Rant over, Disagree if you want. 

    Way2Gay's picture

    Tell It!

    Just thought I'd acknowledge how much I agree with your post and how much I understand exactly where you're coming from.

    By and large, when anyone other than a Black woman communicates Black women's stories, the essence and the complexity are lost in translation.

    I had no idea of Whoopi Goldberg's attempting a revival starring India.Arie. That could have been marvelous. I'm sighing. I'm ranting. And, probably like you, I'm trying to make it better.

    pecola's picture

    Point blank. Period.

    I was going to come and write a long rant about how infuriating this news was for me, but you've really captured everything I've been feeling. Kudos to you.

    This news...I mean...I'm just exasperated by it. I'm not sure about how I feel about there being a movie version of this anyway, but to have it done by a man, in general, and Tyler Perry, in particular, is infuriating. I kept hoping that maybe Precious changed him--how could it not? I get teary-eyed watching the trailer--but then I see commercials for his latest bit of minstrelsy and I know he's the same snake oil salesman he's always been.

    If a white man (or, hell, white woman) did to black women what Tyler Perry does in his movies and TV shows, there would be protests and boycotts. 

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    Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong. - Theodore Roosevelt

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    Protests and Boycotts

    "If a white man (or, hell, white woman) did to black women what Tyler Perry does in his movies and TV shows, there would be protests and boycotts. "

    Truer words have never been spoken. Why is it ok for the black community to take the scraps of representation because it's from a black person? It irritates me more that the marginalization and, you said it best, minstrelsy comes at the hand of one of a black person. It irks me that the ONLY representations of the black family on TV this upcoming season are the brain children of Tyler Perry, House of Pain and Meet the Browns. That version of the black family is not representative of the entirety of the community, just like the Huxtables weren't.

    Let me stop now b/c I feel myself getting comfortable on my soap box.

    sloane's picture

    girl! i don't even have to

    girl! i don't even have to say anything! thank you for expressing my view perfectly on this subject. i am sick and tired of black women's narratives being SUBSUMED by black men's narratives, as though black women's stories don't diverge enough from theirs to even be told. and when we have a problem with this ridiculous status quo that perpuates misogyny and sexism within the black community, we're told we're being disloyal to black men. i don't give a damn about someone's twisted perception of loyalty. and in this particular case  tyler perry damn sure hasn't warranted any loyalty or even the benefit of the doubt from me because he has proven himself disloyal to black women in the past, by portraying us as caricatures, and now for trying to co-opt a story written by and for black women for all for his own personal glory. why can't he help a black woman adapt and direct this story? it's absurd.
    Garage Door Whisperer's picture

    Brilliant

    Absolutely brilliantly stated.  <Phew>  Just brilliant. Thank you for this.

     

     

     

    SapphicDay's picture

    Directing it?

    "o have Tyler Perry, a man, adapt and direct this is slap in the face."

    I believe that Warn wrote that Jasmine Guy was directing the movie.

    Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    Jasmine Guy

    Directed the recent stage production in Atlanta. Tyler Perry is on board to produce, adapt and direct the film.

    LilyJadeRose's picture

    tyler perry has done so much

    tyler perry has done so much for black folk in the arts, even if it may be unpopular on this site to say so.  his stage plays and the movie versions of them aren't stereotypical because of the way they are done.  you have to watch them and the message and point of it all practically smacks you in the face.  and watching madea on screen is like watching my grandmother and my great aunts.  at times it's even a little creepy.

    i don't know anything about this play that he's slated to make into a movie.  i gather it would go over easier if a female was doing the directing.  but, tyler perry has done a good job of showing the struggles that black women face (i mean look at any number of his plays or movies) and how they get through...even if sometimes the stories have fairy tale endings.   so perhaps instead of griping that the man was asked to direct, let's all be happy that the stories of black women are coming to light like this at all...and especially since it's a black person in charge of the production.  

    tyler perry has such a huge fan base, white women included, that with his name on the project....people will show up to see this movie who other wise wouldn't because it's a "black film".

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    Viva's picture

    Absolutely

    Madea might be wacky, but she keeps it real. lol Most of the stuff she says, people think it, (or at least the people I roll with...lol) but are afraid to say it aloud, because somehow our society's has gotten to a point, where REAL=INSENSITIVE A-HOLE, and FAKE= NICE. And, while I admire the, "women can do it better, if given the chance" message that I'm getting from this article, I personally think it's wrong to pre-judge, how crappy of a job he's going to do, when they haven't even started filming the project. Kinda like what some are doing with The Real L-Word, and Chaiken. That's just Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. lol

     

    LilyJadeRose's picture

    girl, i was with you and

    girl, i was with you and nodding along in agreement...right up until that chaiken comment.  chaiken has proven she doesn't know what the hell she's doing...tyler perry has given black actors and actresses and issues that affect our community (and the way we tend to respond to them) a shining light for years now.  why should this be any different?  i don't think he'll drop the ball on this.  he was raised by what he called strong women and this is reflected in his work. 

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    Viva's picture

    Agree

    but, who knows? Maybe, she'll surprise us with this one. Keep Hope Alive. lol

     

    versus's picture

    i agree with you lily

    I was wondering when i was gonna read something here given alittle slack to Tyler Perry. No he is not a great film maker with full layered characters. But he is not steroetyping black women either in my opinion. He is telling stories that a lot of black women as well as all women have gone through in their relationships with men and in their families and he usually ends his stories with those women empowering themselves as well as finding love and loving better.  The movie has not been made at all yet but all this negative energy is unneccessary until it is out and it is actually horrible. The worse movie I have seen by Perry is The Family that Preys given it wass completely predictable and the Lathan character motivations were not clearly understandable the movie needed to be longer to give reason to why the people were so damn angry. But it still wasn't a sterotype because all of the things in his movies happen and have happened to women I know personally. My Favorite Perry movie is Madea's Family reunion as well as Diary of a mad black woman. All you have to do is come to the south get to know as many black folks as you can down here and you will think Perry is writing about one of the southern black family's which is where all his movies are based. So come up with some other reason why he shouldn't direct or adapt the movie because the sterotype and belittling of black women are not good enough. I am sure this type of talk went on about Alice Walker's Color Purple when that white Jewish boy adapted it for the screen but that movie is one of my favorites as well as one of the top "black movies" to date..

     

     

    mind your business

    Way2Gay's picture

    Disagree. Think Quality, Not Quantity.

    RE: "let's all be happy that the stories of black women are coming to light like this at all...and especially since it's a black person in charge of the production."

    If the price of inclusion and visibility is co-optation and exploitation, then I want no part of that revolution. 

    I'd even go so far as to say that a person who doesn't seem to think he's an authority on Black women, someone who has enough distance from the experience to want to do the work of excavation and distillation, would be better suited for the project. Being Black doesn't make Perry qualified for this job, especially since his storytelling -- whether dramatic or comedic -- is entirely retrograde.

    The Tyler Perrys, Jesse Jacksons, and Al Sharptons of the world speak for themselves, not for me. And they certainly have nothing useful to say to or about Black women. Unless, in their infinite wisdom and magnanimity, they manage a sincere "I'm sorry." 

    maggieyeahis's picture

    IDK

    on the one hand I can understand the frustration of having a man do this and not a woman. I'm not really a fan of Tyler Perry, I like some of his stuff but not crazy about it. I do feel like if you have seen one Tyler Perry movie you may have seen them all. On the other hand I will wait and see if he does a good job or not.

    "Come On Then Get These Good Done Debbies"

    Nona J.'s picture

    Awe Man.

    Wait.....what happened to Nzingha Stewart???? Did Lionsgate give her the boot? Wow. She was supposed to direct her adapted version of For Colored Girls.

    I'm just going to leave my comment at that.

    " True enjoyment comes from activity of the mind and exercise of the body; the two are ever united" ~ Wilhelm von Humbolt

    mpls's picture

    Give him a chance.

    I am a lesbian and a black woman. He has done amazing movies ,in my opinion. He is giving work to many people of color that no one seems to want to employ anymore; very talented people. Give him a chance ladies! Make the judgement once the movie is finished and out 



    Effy's picture

    ugh

    Flat two-dimensional characters are one hudred percent appropriate for light comedy. It's not thoughtful, because it's not meant to be though provoking. Those kinds of movies are just made for a laugh; it's entertainment. Perhaps the man can write from different perspectives and places in his heart? Analyzing and attacking something that wasn't meant to have so much thought put into it at all is exactly where the humorless lesbian stereotype comes from.
    Way2Gay's picture

    In fact...

    His films are marketed as comedies, largely because that's what movie-makers and movie-goers find to be the most palatable genre for stories about Black persons.

    But, in fact, they are more like moral-dramedies. There's far more dark than there is light.

    dollparts's picture

    tyler perry

    i love his movies and i know alot of elderly women like that my friends grandmothers and my grandmother have so many of those characteristics. And i recall him stating madea was based on his grandmother loosely. As for the fact about gabriel union in the daddys little girl story line women can be lonely career women he didnt bring across the screen the delusion that all women are like that but in all honesty this day in age both sexes can go through that whether the loneliness is being filled by a person or getting a break from work(lets face it whos not a total bitch after working over 60 plus hours a week) she didnt particulary come off as lonely to me just out of the loop on the dating game and her friends blind dates werent helping the situation (which im sure plenty of people can relate to) face it all the women you named are good actresses but they come with big numbers and im sure mr. perry would like to have them in his movies but cant afford them just yet and he does put the names of a lot of talent white and black male and female actresses names out there through his plays and breaks the stereotype that white people cant sing or dance i might add. i dont think tyler perry make women especially black women look pitiful in his movies he shows how women as well as men can be weak and how they overcome it. he is showing the ugliness of relationships and life that do really happen whether spousal abuse, teen pregnancy, prostitution, drugs, etc and cushioning it with a bit of comedy. im not black but that doesnt mean those things aren't universal ive known and am related to people like this as well as went through an abusive relationship, this is life. if he was not a man there would be no argument here so that shows to me that its not his directing or acting ability thats on discussion its his sex. its not his fault that a woman didnt direct the film like jasmine guy or whoever being that he has his own productions it was easier for him and he picked up the movie that would overwise probably would have been discarded until years later if that   

     

     

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    Survival is my only friend.
    Terrified of what may come.
    Remember I will always love you,
    Even as I claw your fucking throat away.
    But it will end no other way"

    Way2Gay's picture

    Stop Supporting the Exploitation and Abuse of Black Womanhood

    Tyler Perry's moral-dramedies are debatably good for a laugh or two, but while Black audiences may get the complexities of the jokes and characters, the mass-market at which his films are directed are only getting superficialities in the forms of sassy mammies and wounded, desperate Black women.

    His films only speak to Black communities because there's not much else out there to consume. Which is sad, because the ostensible heterosexism and heavy-handed preaching about how to heal Black relationships and families only further entrench the deeper issues at hand.

    While I take offense at the fact that it seems that no Black women will have a major hand behind the scenes of this film, I take greater offense at the fact that the go-to Black voice, Perry's, is that of someone who romanticizes Black womanhood right back into subordination.

    Perry may have grown up surrounded by women, and his regard for them may be sincere, but he has yet to prove that he can translate that reverence onto the stage and screen.

    Thus, I do not support his perspective, his art, or his abuse of Black womanhood. And neither should you.

    Instead, let Nina Simone sing to you about "Four Women."

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    (stands up clapping)

    I was gonna quote everything in your posts that I agree with, but realized that I'd just be reposting your posts in their entirety and that would be redundant. Although, its probably extremely neccesary to keep repeating the points both of us have made.

    Viva's picture

    But...

    you may call me naive, blind, or stupid. In my humble opinion, the stories, and struggles, that Perry brings to the screens (while the actress may be "black") are stories and struggles women of white, brown, yellow, communities are struggling with as well. In other words, I believe that the struggles that women go through in Tyler's plays, movies, etc.. may not neccessarily be synonymous with just, the struggles of women in African American communities. For instance, the movie Women, now the dialogue and the way the movie was generally presented, the average person, might not make the connection. (holy hell, is that condescending, but I don't know how to articulate it any better, so....) But, at the heart of it, the struggles and the drama portrayed by those characters rang true for some "colored" women. I just think it depends on the viewers perspective as it is with many things, but please don't bite(or do). This is not meant to belittle in any way shape or form, "the real struggles of a black woman" that apparently Perry's unable to comprehend, (despite his work, being largely accepted by the masses). But then again, this seems to be another entrance in the long list of, "It isn't cool or enlightened entertainment, if it's mainstream" bs articles running around the internet.

     

    pecola's picture

    Not An Attack on the Mainstream

    Viva wrote:
    this seems to be another entrance in the long list of, "It isn't cool or enlightened entertainment, if it's mainstream" bs articles running around the internet.

    No, it really isn't. I won't speak for anyone else, but I certainly don't have a problem embracing mainstream movies, music or television shows. That said, I'm willing to make a clear distinction between art that I find fulfilling in whatever way and that which I find that diminishes me as a woman and as a person of color. I don't like Tyler Perry for the same reason that I don't listen to a lot of hip-hop--there's no amount of mass acceptance that'll make their messages of misogyny and/or homophobia okay. 

    Does the story that Tyler Perry relays in his movies, TV shows and plays reflect the life of actual black women I know? Yes, part of the reasons that stereotypes are so easy to fall into is because there are actual people who embody them fully, but they still are stereotypes, a tremendous oversimplification of a diverse group of people. Perry has had opportunity after opportunity to correct his portrayals of women and yet he still persists in advancing these one-dimensional characterizations.   

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    Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong. - Theodore Roosevelt

    Viva's picture

    Why not, stupid?

    lol why couldn't you just have gone with stupid? heh j/k No seriously, I'm not going to argue that most of his plays, movies, etc...are filled with stereotypes. But, like you said, they exist for a reason. And I think part of moving towards a world of equality, kinda comes from people being able to just laugh at themselves. umm..and I think that throughout all of his work, he's been able to cover just about every single type of "black" person, or woman. (imo) I brought up mainstream part, because from reading a couple of different articles supporting your side of the argument, it seems to me that that is the large part of the argument. Not wanting it attached to TP, because he's mainstream, and we all know once you're mainstream, you sold yourself to the devil. Maybe not in those exact words, but that's what I come way with. Why not give him a chance, to see what he comes up with, and then rip it if it's bad. Or embrace, if he'll surprise you with a deep significant portrayal, of the black woman experience.

    timafi's picture

    Beyonce is a good "actress"

    why would anyone think Beyonce is a great "actress" ?

     

    lexbutnotleast's picture

    maybe if you just

    give him a chance. artists evolve and mature and he might surprise us all. his track record might not be so great, but he does have talent. tyler perry was also homeless at one time and he had to make money. i wonder if he sold out and catered to stereotypes so that he could make it in the industry. now maybe, he is in a better position to make movies with more favorable portrayals of black women. just food for thought.  
    akiraj's picture

    Ugh

    I know that at the end of the day it's all about the money and Tyler Perry is bankable. But what about letting women tell women's stories? What happened to having integrity in films? No matter which way you slice it, and no matter what race they are, men can not tell women's story because they haven't lived as women. Period. I definitely won't be seeing this.

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    Quik's picture

    Please no!

    I like Tyler Perry and am a fan of his, but to direct For Colored Girls, please no!  I actually saw the play less than a month ago, and it was overwhelming!  I enjoyed it from the beginning to end.  It showed a lot of strength in the play.  I have the distinct feeling if Perry gets ahold of it, he would deminish the quality and strength of these women's voices.  I'm so not for that pairing at all! 

    2 Tears in a Bucket...F*#k it!!!

    Low-Ren-Zo.'s picture

    :(

    I heard about this. And because i'm ADD right now i'm not gonna re-read the entire post, but I did notice someone said something about Beyonce above, and for the love of Gawd PLEASE let him have more sense than to cast Beyonce's non-actin ass in this movie. At least give us that much. I'm gonna hold out hope that he's not gonna take this movie and totally misinterpret the shit and make it a bunch of bitchy shoutin black women that end in the electric slide.

     

    Anonymous's picture

    oh no.


    -visions of Madea as lady in blue-

    o_0

    please. 
    just ... No!!!

     

    "Be who you are and say what you feel,
    because those who mind don't matter
    and those who matter don't mind.
    " ~Dr. Seuss

    Audra's picture

    Haha!

    Haha! Having the same disturbing visions myself. *shudder*
    batty_rider's picture

    How could you forget the

    How could you forget the amazing and talented Kasi Lemmons-writer/director of "Eve's Bayou" among others and Julie Dash-writer/director of "Daughters of the Dust?"
    dollparts's picture

    omg!

    i loved eves bayou! one of the best movies ever it took me awhile to figure out that was megan good in the movie lol 

    "Hands upon my back again.
    Survival is my only friend.
    Terrified of what may come.
    Remember I will always love you,
    Even as I claw your fucking throat away.
    But it will end no other way"

    sweetiedarlinmia's picture

    Daughters of the Dust

    Is one of the most amazing films I have ever seen!

    .★.Matt The Rock$tar.★.'s picture

    lmao @ the comments

    So I totally know where this discussion has headed so I am just going to keep my two cents to myself this time.

    As long as he does not screw it up I don't care. People fail to realize you have to learn how to take baby steps before you can run. You are not guaranteed a hole in one or a homerun your first try, give the man some credit no matter his history.

    Would you complain if no one did it and ask why has no one thought about us...complain complain complain! Don't bite the hand that feeds you : )

    *drops mic*

    Matt's world you just live in it!

    .★.Matt The Rock$tar.★.'s picture

    lmao @ the comments

    So I totally know where this discussion has headed so I am just going to keep my two cents to myself this time.

    As long as he does not screw it up I don't care. People fail to realize you have to learn how to take baby steps before you can run. You are not guaranteed a hole in one or a homerun your first try, give the man some credit no matter his history.

    Would you complain if no one did it and ask why has no one thought about us...complain complain complain! Don't bite the hand that feeds you : )

    *drops mic*

    Matt's world you just live in it!

    Reign's picture

    hmmm

    Although I would love to have a women of color in control of this movie, I don't really care who does it, as long as they are true to the characters and their stories. I have loved this play since I was really young. It has meant a lot to me in various stages of my life for different reasons.

    I don't like the idea of Tyler Perry directing this project based on his past work. To say "give him a chance" is like giving the guy at work who has repeatedly messed up the sales report and cost the company millions another chance. At what point do you say enough is enough?

    I won't go into the stereotypes and all that in TPs movies. I just feel like his work is better left to the stage and not the screen. Besides all that, my main issue is that all of his female characters are the same. All the storylines are the same. I get the dark side of his "comedies" and all that. I see the struggles his characters go through. But at the end of the day, their general stories are the same. I won't list them here, because this post is already long enough. Plus if you have ever seen more than one TP movie, then you know what I am talking about. I pointed this out to a family member of mine who loves (and owns) all of TPs work. After much consideration and reviewing the material, they agreed with me. The women  generally have the same victimized, need a good (blue collar) man to pick them back up story lines. It is tired. He needs to come up with some new material...but then again why would he do that when the same tired formula is making him millions. 

    I appreciate Tyler Perry for getting black faces back into the mainstream. And for getting African American actors starring roles, but for all that is good in this world do NOT let this man touch this play. Unless he is going to seriously change his directing/writing style. 

    Audra's picture

    couldn't agree more

    Well said. I just hope he realizes his limitations and just walks away from the movie.