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She Got Me Pregnant: Episode 12Dana and Helen of Mombian use Tasha's storyline on The L Word as an excuse to share the story of an actual LGBT officer raising children with her partner, and to explore the impact of the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy on the children of LGBT servicemembers.
Helen also talks about her own experience as a military officer, back in the days of the Cold War, and even models her garrison cap. Submitted by on January 24, 2008 - 10:00am. |
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Whoa.
This is strange to watch.
In australia we have same sex partner benefits in the armed forces. Descrimination is not tolerated, true it still happens i mean the armed forces isn't exactly a cushy work place but come on. How ridiculous. What is this the dark ages?!
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Thank you for opening up that subject, its not one i'm familiar with but it's really touching. Human right touch us all and when i hear about such unfairness, it pisses me off even if i dont have children or am not in the millitary. It was very interesting.
I dont think anyone should have to leave there jobs because of theire orientation, thats ridiculous, especially in a contry that call itself "land of freedom".( I dont know about my country (canada) thought).
Seeing you next week, take care the two of you!
I wish the family
I wish the family you were talking about all the best and hopefully the upcoming elections will improve their situation.
I myself know my way around the military. But lucky me in my country since the opening of all branches to women (including the combat troops and submarines) in 2001 they had to re-evalute their sex and gender policies. At the same time new laws allowed for civil unions for gays and lesbians. So officially there is no discrimination allowed. Which puts me into a very privileged situation compared to the LGBT soldiers in the USA. Yet, I would have chosen this career anyway. The wish to serve my country certainly would have been as strong as the one of the officer you talked about. And even though there is now a small network of gay and lesbian officers forming, I am not out and I'll probably keep it hidden. Because times unfortunately can change.
I applaud this family for their courage and the commitment they show and will hope with them for changing times to the better.
Great topic!
I really appreciated you guys covering this topic. It's gut wrenching to hear how limited this family is, while watching I was just curious on the various candidates position on don't ask don't tell. I happened upon the republicans discussing it, and they were so dismissive about the topic and they had the nerve to say that it was working! Anyways great Vlog and I wish all the best to the family you were talking about.
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Thank you so much for
Thank you so much for discussing this very important topic and shedding light on an almost universally ignored aspect of the problem.
That story broke my heart. I'd thought about the effect of DADT on spouses but never even considered it's effects on kids. This really needs to be injected into the national debate on the issue. A big part of why it's not a part of the dialogue at this point is the fact that LGBT identity has largely been framed as a matter of sexual identity vs conduct. The official military idea is that you can be gay but don't act on it or talk about it and we won't have a problem.
This completely ignores the fact that LGBT persons are actually people with associational and affectional ties, not just people who have a certain sexual preference. So what happens to them will affect persons other than themselves, including their children.
Again, thanks so much for discussing to this issue. If for one am definitely gonna do my part to draw people's attention to it from now on.
I don't understand why
I don't understand why anyone would want to be in the military but if that is your choice you should be treated with fairness and respect. I imagine being in the military really tough, especially when there is a war going on and there's a chance you will have to be involved directly in that war. If you are one of those extraordinary people who can deal with this dangerous, difficult situations than people should thank you for that instead of making you life miserable.
I would probably quit but it's good to know there are people out there who are braver than I am! I hope things will change for the better in your country. I think the US is a very interesting and loveable country but sometimes I find part of your population and their point of views just oddly strange. But oh well - you can find idiots everywhere around the world...
ps: You did a really nice job with this episode. I didn't find it boring at all when you were reading from your article. I don't have children and I am not in the military but I'm still watching and commenting on your vlog. I guess you just have a way to make things interesting :)
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Except for the desire to be a mother some day, I have nothing to relate with your vlog. And yet, here I am, week after week, watching every episode. You guys are good at this!!!
Fisrt, I think I want to go live in Australia! lol
But seriously speaking, since I can't comment about US military, I'll compare to the way things happen in my country.
I can loosely relate with this story. I'm a doctor, and I can be gay and have a family, but... I kind of shoudn't. Because a pacient can deny to be attended by me if he/she knows about my sexuality. So, to avoid problems at work, I should not expose myself. My wife won't be able to pick me up at the hospital or to go to coworkers meetings, for exemple.
It's not as complicated as this family's life, since I can have a "normal" life outside of my work. But I understand how hard it is for them, and how hard it will be for their children, always.
What can we do? I wake up every day thinking that we're a day closer to a better world, and that soon I won't have to be afraid for who I am, and It will not be necessary to be extra careful about each word spoken...
Great job.