Come With Me If You Want To Live: "Work Out" 3.4

Yay, new blog! Yall just made my day!

"The quick to think are never sure"

--Tiresias, Oedipus Rex

I have got to say that this vlog is offically my favorite. I love your off tangent comments -- the more the better! The random song bites and the dancing -- I thought I was the only one that did that -- I feel like my personality is manifest in two incredibly funny, intelligent Black women! YES! Keep on, keepin' on! Furthermore, the comments on Erika are concurred and shared equally on my part.

 Concerning the issue of "Black Gregg," I found his behavior to be extremely unprofessional. I admit, I haven't been watching WORKOUT much this season, but from what I have seen, it's not just Jackie but a few of the other trainers have gotten a bit cocky and big-headed. Maybe I'm missing something here, however.. this is not the same Jackie of SKYLAB (or is it SKYSPORT) that we all were introduced to on Season 1. Maybe, all we need is some more Agostina (did I spell that right, I have no idea...). Will Bravo TV be the end of Jackie warner's career? Who knows? We have to tune in for the next season, I suspect.

It's interesting the perspective on Christianity as well. Especially in the Black Christian community, media representation has been .. negative, to say the least, towards the LGBT community. I agree that when it comes to interpretations of the Bible, it's all in how an individual filters the metaphors and not necessarily in taking "the word" literally. That said, I still feel uncomfortable mixing Christianity with the LGBT commnity - but that's just me. I come from a different perspective, being raised Catholic, I found it difficult to mesh the religion of my family with myself .. well, as women and as a lesbian. It just kept clashing... But, as aforementioned, that's just me.

ANYWAYS, keep up the great work!

Good job ladies. I'm not a jackie fan at all, but if you remember her whole thing with brian was that she wasn't the one who said anything about his client it was "latoya"....she was hostile towards him but i think she had that don scott situation on her mind...i noticed a lot of the gay slang has very different meanings from how these terms are used in eN whY...if u ever hit the big apple, hit up hunts point and west 11th ave after the club, that's another definition of "the ho stroll"...Peace

i love this vlog!

ya'll don't forget to check out the forum for this vlog! the link is in my signature!

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This week was extra funny and educational. Being British I was completely unaware of the "Ho Stroll". But I shall keep it in mind for future reference.

I agreed with everything you guys said about Peeler and Jackie. I have officially gone off Jackie but I'll keep watching the vlog cos you guys are too funny. 

On come with me if you want to live, and I can't believe I waited so long! Dee and Jen, I just want to say thankyou for making me laugh so much and for the little slang tutorials - you so have my vote!

Ooh, also when are your Birthdays, cause I'd love to work out your signs...just a quirk, I guess

 and if you're into that stuff

www.lesfemmescafe.com

Preesheeate Y'alll!!!! xxx

Catherine

i never would have guessed that jenn's primary instrument was the flute. her personality just doesn't say "i'm a flute player"....because anyone that has ever been in marching band knows the typical personality that comes with a flute player.

if i didn't know she played the french horn, i would have thought she played clarinet. clarinet being the best instrument ever!!! lol

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You guys are great. I think on your next or a future episode you two should march around a field and demonstrate your instruments. I think that would be hilarious.

"For the Bibile tells me so" is an amazing documentary and I highly reccomend it! I've always wondered that if the bible isn't supposed to be taken so literally, except the major things like thou shall kill, steal, and passages about promiscuity then what about not having sex before marriage. Should that apply to homosexuals? Just some random thoughts.

Thanks for explaining a little about the Christianity and homosexual views. I like that you all stated your own opinions. It is interesting. I do agree with you all that it is based on your own view of the Bible, etc.

Anways, I have heard of the gay slang 101 word but wasn't to sure what it really meant. So thanks for explaining that. Also I am like you all I am ready to leave after the club, just get in my car and go. lol. (Actually, I am not really a nightclub person, I will go every now and then.)

Thanks again for the vlog.

P.S: Dee, you are cute. Also Jenn, I like that you were palm rolling your hair, I have never seen someone do that. I have just heard that is mainly what you're suppose to do with locks. I had assumed different techniques like putting a hair product then palm roll...as you all can tell I am interested in locks.

Hey,

 Great vlog- love catching it at work at lunchtime!  and in case you haven't seen it yet- check out the trainers blogs about the episodes on the Workout website thingy ( here is the link)  you know if you have nuthin' to do.... :) 

http://www.bravotv.com/Work_Out/season/3/blogs/index.php 

And guess what? Jackie is STILL not owing that she screwed up!  Her ego is opera- level drama- damn!

love the comments about Erica too  

Jenn and Dee, you guys are so so so hilarious, adorable, gorgeous and eloquent!

Full disclosure: As a closeted young twentysomething, I self-consciously walked the ho stroll with my straight girlfriends, many times. While they would simply beam from the attention from the boys, I just got really uncomfortable, and would plead for them to throw me the keys so I could get inside the car already.

Since coming out, I've been way too self-conscious to ever walk the gay ho stroll. Lesbians, and the potential of being rejected by them makes me way too nervous.

Now I just jet from the club to my car, drive straight home and pray in my heart of hearts for a girlfriend.

Your vlog is BY FAR the best one on AfterEllen. My best friend watches it in Phoenix while I check it out in Santa Barbara. It's our weekly ritual, and we truly adore you guys.

So much love and gratitude,

S.I.

You guys rock!  The off topic tangents are the best! 

I know some people who've done the ho stroll.  It's funny and unnecessary.  I've definitely known this one girl who waited for people to hook up with afterwards too.  I was one of those who wanted to leave right away.  I was done and wanted to go home!

LOVE the new intro too!

... my straight best friend (who's a guy) uses this phrase when he has to pee.

He went to college in Atlanta (Emory).  Southern wit and charm -- it's contagious and so endearing.

I think because I am so close to the OC but dont live there... (i repeat DO NOT) whenever you guys talk about the OC gangsters it cracks me up... cause all they do is dress gangster (Famous Stars and Straps gear) with their long black socks and yes PLAID shorts... tryin' stunt!

 ANYWAYS!

yes i am one of the DL crossovers and may I just say... i have a lot of respect for you guys cause you guys work hard with school and STILL find time to entertain us! good lookin'

-LEX

Your slang is now overlapping with mine!

Everytime you said CP I kept thinking of the CP Kids. Except, it has nothing to do with the other version of CP or The Kids. In my case it was what we used a lot when I was still in the competitive wheelchair basketball world. CP = cerebal palsy. Which, I got stuck with the term even though I'm not technically a CP kid [basically if you're spastic, you can get called one]. We kind of just used it to describe people, or point someone out, or if someone did something a bit spastic, like not re-acting quick enough and getting a basketball square in the face.

[there are also the CP shakes, and five million other terms we used which would usually offend anyone listening in, also our liberal use of the word Gimpy, or Gimp.]

lol - and I guess that's your disabled/gimpy slang 101 for the day.

over whose instrument is better. Clearly, the drumline/percussion section runs everything! As far as Jackie goes, she had posted a bulletin on myspace a few weeks ago basically saying that she felt justified firing Brian because of the way he has acted towards her and that she was disappointed in the way the episode was edited to look negative.

kristina.michelle

 The passages dealing with homosexality and the bible are mostly Old Testament references. When Christ died for our sins we were no longer held to the laws of the old testament as mentioned in Romans 7:4 "So, my brothers,you also were made dead to the Law through the body of Christ, that you might become another's, one's who was raised up from the dead, that we should bear fruit to God."  

The only time we find mention of homsexuality in the New Testament is when Paul speaks.  Paul being educated as a rabbi was known to include many Old Testament references in his message.  Jesus never once mentioned homosexuality.  And as you mentioned some of Paul's teachings have been used to justify slavery.

Thanks for another great show!

i always thought jackie was a bit egocentric and ridiculous before, but at least competent and compassionate....now i don't find her likeable at all. as for erika, i really hope she deals with her self esteem issues, they can be crippling. and if i was the woman lisa insulted, i would've been lobbying to get her fired. it's really reprehensible how unprofessional and mean-spirited her comments were, and jackie not taking any action on this situation or  in the one with deenie was ridiculous because for her disrepecting your clients = businessnes going down the drain. going to a gym and working with a trainer are not necessities in life, so she needs to stop disregarding her clientele before she has none left.

cp time= embarassing black folks across the nation. smh.

i do love troy, he's adorable! i hope he comes back soon.

lmao...i've only heard "the ho stroll" be applied to situations involving  prostitutes, so this is new. it looks like i'm going to have to visit some friends down south because i've got to get up on some of this gay terminology.  it's like i'm learning a whole other language.

I'm pretty sure that Peeler calls Bingo at Hamburger Mary's on Wednesday nights dressed as a woman named Bridget.

I'm not outing him! He mentioned the blow up with Jackie last week.

I ain't mad at him.

My honors professor passed this out to the class a few years back, and I found it quite amusing, to say the least. Enjoy  =)

 Laura Schlessinger is a conservative US radio personality who dispenses sex advice to people who call in to     her radio show. Recently, she said that as an observant Orthodox Jew, she believes homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in any circumstance.  The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by    a US resident:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination.  End of debate!  I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them:

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians, you clarify?  Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I  have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.  Exodus 35:2 clearly  states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

g) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

h) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may 1 still play football if I wear gloves?

i) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them?  (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private

family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws?

(Lev. 20:14)

I know you. have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.  Your devoted disciple and adoring fan,

~ I can resist everything but temptation~

I'm glad i now have a definitive word for the shameless strutting/and or lingering outside clubs...tee hee.

I'm definitely with you guys on jackie's mean spiritedness. I actuall stopped watching the show because of how ridiculous it's getting but i will stay tuned for the recaps b/c they're better than tv.

You two look great btw! ;}

pluus flutes are cool

...knee caps I have ever seen!  I had to throw that out there, because you had your pants rolled up the entire vlog, but it really works for you!

Seriously, thanks for addressing Christianity and the children.  I found the link Dee provided very helpful because it provided some scriptures that I had not previously read.  Are you all familiar with Peter Gomes?  He is an openly gay minister and professor at Harvard's Divinity School.  I have not had time to study his work yet, but just thought I would see if anyone else has because a friend mentioned him to me several months ago.

I think I unintentionally did the 'stroll' this past weekend.  Did I really just say that about myself?  I thought I was just walking to the restroom, but I kept getting alot of attention from women trying to holler at me.  But for real, my 'stroll' was strictly unintentional.

Jenn and Dee, I think you two should start a web site with gay slang 101; something similar to urbandictionary.com...but devoted entirely to gay slang.  That would be pretty cool.  If you're interested send me a message and I can put you in touch with a great web design company that does great work and keeps the site updated and for much lower than the usual customary fees.  They also have insight on how to get advertisers to pay to have their banners and such on your sight.  It could be a big hit!

Thanks again for another great vlog,

Smile_4_Me

PS - Jenn, if you think Erica has a great body and nice teeth, you should check out mine...again, did I really just say that? LOL

I will definitely be voting for this vlog!!

Ok, so now im bout to spill some tea....ladies did you notice that someone cut her nails??lol

Yea Dee, they makn her look that bad...she said it on her mypace blog...here is a lil of what she said!!!

Please remember that this is a show and that 90% of the beautiful and inspiring work we did was left on the cutting room floor. The producers decided (regretably) to create through editing a very different and what I think a very negative show. This season is not in any way a reflection of what I or SkySport represents. I have spent a great part of my life trying to heal and am just as floored as you, the viewers, by the negative editing.

Loved the vlog as always ladies!!!

See you in NY Sunday!!

then this show would be perfect.

Oh, well, at least there's Jenn and Dee!  Great show again, ladies.  :-)

You're both so beautiful, intelligent and funny and so obviously in love.  You're very lucky to have one another.  (kidding!  kidding!  We must not out them!!!)

:-)

that is definitely the quote of the week.  i'm feelin you on v.i.p.  i also think it's hilarious whenever you mention the o.c. because i'm from socal and you are dead on.  jenn, i promise i'm not hatin' but i remember being in band and whenever the flutes would start in it just gave me a headache.  it was like fingers on a chalkboard. 

woodwinds are still where it's at but i'm teaching myself guitar...anyone got any tips?  big up to professor troy and thanks for keepin' it hot ya'll.

I am so stressed by this time of the semester, it's great to relax and watch you two having so much fun.  I'll quit the beer after my last final on Thursday.  It's no wonder where the extra weight comes from when you're in college.

I used to do the Ho Stroll when I was younger, only it was never in a club, more like a movie theatre, or at a play.  I loved finding a reason to walk up and down the aisle when I was feeling especially cute that night.  Only I just didn't know it had a name!

Workout is so much more interesting when you ladies tell the story.  The two of you together are a lot more fun to look at then any of the women on Workout.  It wouldn't be all that bad for Jenn to Ho her boxers for us, now would it?  Just a suggestion.

I thought i would mention that Cp-time, it affect most people colour, lol i swear its in our gens lol. In South Africa we call it 'Bantu Time' and in England it's 'Black Time' it really does exist. I am always late, take this morning for example i was determined to get to work on time  and i was ready two hours ahead of time but i was still late don't know left home in time lol but i was late.

Love you guys by the way simply because you can never stay on topic which is always fun and i dont even know or watch Work Out.

do outside the club walking up and down while my friends and I wait in line. When I lived in St. Louis and went gay bar hopping/crawling with my friends, I would see ,if we're at a gay male club, lots of men stroll up and down checking peeps out. I'm like hmmm. The same at black clubs. I was wondering what the hell peeps what were doing.  I didn't even know there was a phrase for what they were doing.  Yeah, I'm one of those who scurries to her car.

You ladies do a great job providing descriptive details about Workout. I don't watch the show. Your details about things these trainers on Workout has turned me off from watching it. Yet, I like your commentary and recaps about the reality series.

All Hail Troy!

Kappa Kappa Eat My Pie  Work out sucks, I can't stand to watch it anymore and the only reason i do is so i know what your talkin about in the vlog.......    Entertaining as always ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really enjoyed this vlog as usual!!

LOL @ Jenn randomly twisting her dreads during the vlog (lol I thought that was cute)

I love Dee's all black gear that she was wearing with the dog tag and all.  I thought she was going to do a boot camp lol!!

Jackie and Lisa's comments were very upsetting!! they should be more professional in the workplace. They shouldn't be judging the clients in the first place because I'm sure their not perfect.

I read online this morning that the Propel Fitess Water company ended their endorsement contract with the show because of the rude comments that were made about the client. The statement said that a lot of viewers were emailing them about the comments, so they no longer wanted to have their company name associated with the show.

Even though I'm not a fan of Peeler, he was right to go confront Jackie about his client because that was very disrespectful.

Jenn was right about their argument. Peeler straight cussed her a$$ out!!!

My favorite Peeler quotes from the argument:

Jackie:"Anymore about this and I'm gonna fire you right now"

Peeler:"Well Fire Me Then"

Jackie:"ok then get the f#%k out!"

Peeler:"PEACE OUT BITCH!!!!!" (lol Most hilarious quote of the episode)

Great Vlog Ladies! Can't wait till next week!!!

P.S. I CAN'T WAIT TILL TROY COMES BACK!!!

Made my day, as usual.

And I think I'm going to do the "ho stroll" next Monday in "da Gump" just for the hell of it. Why not?

Jenn...call me.

"I went to the doctor of philosophy and he was like, 'man, what are YOU doing here, you lesbo?!'"-Sarah Silverman (tSSP)

It is refreshing to know I am not the only person that struggled with the conflict of being gay and thinking that you may go to hello.

Clubing experience is not for everyone; I enjoy myself at home doing the same thing on the couch.  I do enjoy watching the people that cannot dance (thinking that he or she can dance) than the people that can dance.

May I ask: what is the funniest thing or most embrassing thing you seen happen in club.

Jenn I have the similar obession with women's behinds; it started my junior year.high school. Teardrop B**ty one that makes want to cry, and my favorite onion B**ty means that same thing but sounds better.

Just had to say yall talkin about erika is hilarious. Somebody do need to tell her thick is good, very good.  great vlog ladies yall got my vote fo sho

Yes, ladies. In case you were wondering ( I know You were) It was I who posted the "Go Big Guh" link about ... 2 vlogs ago. No thanks are necessary. It was my pleasure. I do take requests. Limited time only. I don't do country.

LOL!!

"Pessimism of the intellect must be accompanied by optimism of the will."
Angela Davis

 WILL YOU PLEASE PASS THE LESBIAN

 YOU TWO ARE SO RANDOM, I LOVE IT HONEY...YALL ARE SPILLING MORE T THEN AND INFANT LEARNING HOW TO USE A CUP! 2 SNAPS AND A CIRCLE FOR THIS SHOW CAUSE IT IS CUNT!!! OH YES LET ME GET THIS OFF MY CHEST AND I HOPE YALL SHOUT ME OUT. JENN BABY IF I LIVED ANY WHERE NEAR YOU I WOULD SURELY TAKE YOU OUT ON A DATE AND GIVE YOU DESSERT AFTER BECAUSE YOU ARE SO DAMN SEXY!!!! DEE MY BEST FRIEND LIKES YOU ALOT HER NAME IS JORDAN!!!!DL LOVES YOU GUYS.

P.S JENN I AM A THICK GIRL (NOT BIG) I GOT EVERYTHING YOU WOULD WANT AND MORE! SO IF YOU EVER COME TO BALTIMORE LOOK ME UP HINT:SHANDELL