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A lesbian talks about "Sex...with Mom and Dad"

AE reader junglequeen alerted us to a recent lesbian-themed episode of MTV's half-hour show Sex...with Mom and Dad, in which "Loveline's Sex and Relationship Expert Dr. Drew [helps] a teen and their parents work through their problems about sex, dating and relationships."

Baylee is a 16-year-old lesbian ("I've dated seven girls and had sex with five") who is frustrated that her parents (especially her Dad) can't accept her sexual orientation. So naturally, she decides to talk about with them on national television!

Watch the show here in four clips:

Clip 1: Need for Acceptance

Ah, yes, telling your parents you're bi first just to avoid freaking them out completely — a time-honored lesbian tradition.

Clip 2: Best Times

"Baylee's parents aren't dealing so well with her lifestyle"? "Sexual preference?" What is this, the '90s? And does anyone else find using re-enacting sexual positions with dolls with your mom taking the whole "sharing is caring" concept a little too far?

Clip 3: Who's Coming to Dinner?

Good on Mom for standing up to Dad at dinner. Good on Dad for the comment about wanting to know which one of her friends wants to "get up in her britches." Very funny.

Clip 4: The Big Goal

So Dr. Drew saw the family for two seconds, gave them homework assignments, then sent them home with a a nice fruit basket and a "Congratulations, you're accepting!" balloon? I want his job!

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  • atsluva4's picture

    Baylee

    i saw the episode when it aired i thought it was interesting except sharing your sex stories with mom and showing her on dolls eek thats um a lil bit much i felt bad for her but she was awesome throughout the eppy i think its been my fav so far!
    cclemoni's picture

    junglequeen

    I've never seen this doc but junglequeen is my girlfriend and seeing her username written in a post by Sarah makes me feel like I'm going out with a celesbian! Doesn't take much to please me.
    JMStone's picture

    Awesome

    It's weird becasue I would never even think twice about watching this show. I was curious to see if there were any lesbian-themed episodes but at first only found one about a gay male. How awseome is this! I'm so happy and I can't wait to watch it. Someone said that this was "the year of the lesbian" ( I think it was someone on BWB) and boy were they right. How amazing is this change we are dealing with the exposure that the GLBT community has had in the news,tv,movies,magazines,etc. I'm so overjoyed!
    hollister's picture

    she's only 16. she shouldn't

    she's only 16. she shouldn't be having sex with anyone at that age. 
    Imsuchanerd's picture

    And yet...

    ...she is. 

    Welcome to 2008. 

    At least she's upfront about it with her parents (and us!) and they are able to entertain us discuss it for millions of viewers to see. 

    kcoss's picture

    the sixteen year old virgin. no more.

    I've watched many of the episodes and I have to say that most of them dwelled on the whole "safe sex" aspect of, well, having sex, except of course for this one... I don't know if this is wrong or the producers were just wanting to tackle the biggest issue which was coming out for Miss Bailey... Also, was she the youngest person ever on the show? I don't know if this implies lesbian/bisexual women are having sex at an earlier age... I know I was at her age, but it varies I guess... Back to the "safe sex" thing, I don't even think it was mentioned, I actually read an article on Curve magazine and it cited a study of women who exclusively slept with women and they were at higher risk for STIs (Sexually Transmitted Infections) and Hepetitis (don't know which type) than women who exclusively had sex with men (don't panic! Lesbians are less likely to be infected with other worse STDs) ANd YES I am a prude when it comes to sex seeing how Miss Bailey has surpassed me in partners 8( and esp since I live in a town where everyone is sleeping with everyone (because they are ;) )

    KC

    doublescarlettfan's picture

    Sixteen is actually the

    Sixteen is actually the average age that girls in the United States lose their virginity. I'm not saying it's necessarily appropriate, but why wouldn't it be if she was actually in a loving relationship with someone? We don't know that she was necessarily, but I don't feel that immediately I should disapprove of her having sex at that age without any other information. I feel that such a rapid reaction on my part would reveal more about how I've been influenced by society's attachment of shame to sex than my own values. I've had to put conscious effort into getting out of that mindset over the years.
    hslp's picture

    It is very intimate....

    SallImSayin's picture

    Cosign, she's 16 and

    Cosign, she's 16 and already has had sex with 5 people.  I'd be upset if my 16 yo had sex with 1 person, but 5?  I'd be more worried about that then her sexuality.

    ^Of course they are, they always have (though to a lesser degree). Kids also smoke weed, sigs, and pop pills, steal, mess up in school..etc, that doesn't mean you should condone it.  Now and days the answer to everything seems to be "at least they're open about it...or doing it at home".

    Katicita's picture

    I thought I'd be the only

    I thought I'd be the only one who felt like this. I can't say when it's the right time for anyone to lose their virginity, but 5 sexual partners at age 16? I find it a tad excessive.
    Batman's picture

    so true...

    um...this is also just me but instead of thinking "where did we go wrong?" about her sexuality, they should be saying that about her sleeping with 5 people at 16.

    but I'm thankful my mom didn't listen to society or else I wouldn't be here...

    laurynx's picture

    Why is having many sexual

    Why is having many sexual partners some sign of deeper pathology or issues, a "bad/questionable" thing? WTH is wrong with people? People have different libidos different desires. Some people are presented with more opportunities than others. If I hear someone say "You don't have to act on those!" I'm going to ask, "Why not?"

    What is wrong with having many sexual partners beyond American Puritanical mores that state "less is more"?

    There is nothing wrong with being sexual, or even highly sexual. But I give you all credit for not being straight misogynistic and calling her a "slut" or "whore".

    Batman's picture

    here's what I'm sayin'

    instead of the fucking mom saying "where did we go wrong" about her daughters sexuality maybe she should be concerning herself with something else. I don't know maybe that's just me... I think if she is going to concern herself about something it may as well be that.

    hslp's picture

    It is very intimate....

    This programme has been on for ages in the UK, on a channel called BBC3, and it gets worse that this. It is on really late though!

    One great episode saw a daughter, a mother and a grandmother, all in a caravan with a bottle of wine talking about Nanna's oral sex experiences, gold BUT really not necessary!

    I think that if people want to do this on national TV leave them to it, I know I won’t be dusting off the old barbies to take home to Mum!

     
    kristina.michelle's picture

    Interesting show

    I'm glad that my parents accepted me because I'd say "thanks, but no thanks, to that sex talk." The doll re-enactment would be mortifying. I don't care what my parents do and they shouldn't know what I do.

    kaykayy's picture

    *sign* mtv

    acceptance/coming out or whatever cannot be sucessfully squeezed into 30 minutes or less. that kind of thing takes time

    and she sure is a frisky little thing...16 and 5 sexual partners...well damn. she doesn't beat around the bush when it comes to getting some. wait...haha

    "if something's destined, its gon happen. you mind as well give in and stop playing with love."

    cowgirlumhum's picture

    Sex... with Mom

    I thought the dolls thing was pretty cool, although it was obviously akward.

    Often, though, I have found that dealing with akward situations head makes relationships more real, and leads to a better understanding later.

    My mom and I have never talked about sex, because she can't handle it. My best friend's mom is much more open and would talk to my friend and I honestly and directly about sex... no matter what we were trying to understand. In some ways, I feel closer to her than my own mother. I wish I could have that talk with my mom... and maybe someday I will. I think it would help me respect her as a human... and help her respect me as an adult and a lesbian.

    Kavorka's picture

    ill pass

    no thanks. i dont think my parents need to know that much info about my sex life. they're acceptance really doesnt mean much to me anyways..
    sirdykesalot's picture

    ......

    *Shudders*  The second video reminded me of the time two family friends came over for dessert with my parents and I.  One of them started asking me how lesbians have sex and how anyone could like that.... in front of my parents.  I wanted to spontaneously combust so I could say "Sorry, I can't answer this question, I'm on fire" or something else equally acceptable.
    kcoss's picture

    my teacher

    I had a totally cool "teacher/counselor" woman in my life that first talked to me about sex...well oral sex... don't worry! I asked...

    GustavChristoff's picture

    I would never talk about

    I would never talk about that with my mother, and especially not with the re-enacting barbies I was embarassed for her. we're not much of  a talking family, especially when it comes to this stuff, and I've never really minded, so I guess it all depends, some people want to talk, and some are just fine without it I guess.
    Shele's picture

    "Aren't you too young to be declaring a major?"

    What kind of comment is that for a so-called sex expert to make to a young girl coming out to her parents?  It makes it sound like she can always change her mind so don't be too quick to make a snap judgment.  Ugh!

    BTW, Sarah, when I read "Baylee is a 16-year-old lesbian ("I've dated seven women and had sex with five")" in your synopsys, my immediate thought was that would be considered statutory rape.   However, what she said was "I've dated seven girls and had sex with five" - big difference for a 16 year old.

    Journey_Wmn's picture

    I love Dr. Drew, but that

    I love Dr. Drew, but that really bothered me. I actually watch the show and he hasn't mentioned to any of the other teens around her age that they should try out some one of their same sex before settling on being hetero. That pissed me off, I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught that. 

     

    "Power is never given back. When it's stolen, if you want it back, you have to take it."      - M. Caballero

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    ketchup__fights's picture

    Dr Drew

    I used to listen to LoveLine frequently (long drive home every evening), and one thing I picked up on was that Drew's attitudes towards gays and lesbians always seem to be a decade or two behind the times. Lots of juvenile snickering and innuendos whenever a gay man called in (although that was mainly his sidekick and producers, rather than Drew himself), berating self-identified bi male callers to just come out as gay already (because apparently bi men don't exist), and, yes, suggestions that young lesbians were too young or inexperienced to know they're lesbians (good call that he never made the same suggestion to young heteroes!) When he said one show that some people become gay because they are sexually abused as children, I turned the radio off, and haven't really listened in since.
    sarahwarn's picture

    Thanks!

    You're right, that is a big difference at her age! I'm just so used to writing "women" I didn't even think about it. :) Thanks for the correction.
    oh no Abby's picture

    I'm an adult and I have

    I'm an adult and I have trouble discussing anything sexual with my mother. lol She's a brave girl. Good for her. I will say I was kind of alarmed by the number of sexual partners more so than her age in general. 
    DelRae's picture

    WOW

    Ok so maybe I am a bit conservative...but I found this whole episode a bit disturbing...yes I am all for communication...but that's just awkward (Dolls really??)!  I agree with everyone else the topic of the show should be about the number of sexual partners...no mater what her sexual preference might be...but I guess I kind of give her credit...I don't think I am that brave to talk to my parents...especially on national television!
    emilykicksass's picture

    on a lighter note...

    did you all notice her long fake nails?

    cant imagine getting laid that much with daggers like that!

    haha :)

    rusty_tiffany's picture

    i've seen a couple other

    i've seen a couple other episodes of this show, and the dolls were way less disturbing than some of the other things dr drew has had people do, in my opinion. (one episode he had a gay guy and his mom shape thier ideal penis out of clay. ew.)

    as far as her being young, i have a bunch of friends who had slept with 4-5 people by the time they were 17, and i don't really think 16 is that young as long as you're careful. i know people who were having sex at 14 (which i do think is too young, btw), and i lost my virginity literally the day after my 17th birthday. the thing about baylee having slept with 5 girls at 16 doesn't bother me because she's young; i'm more surprised that she's managed to find so many openly gay or bi girls at such a young age. i was the only out gay/bi person in my high school (actually there was a girl who graduated 2 years before me, but i didn't know her), and i had 2 bi female friends, one who was in college, the other lived a few towns away. so i was more amazed at the options baylee has, rather than by her age.

    anji's picture

    man, that was disturbing

    ok, having open communication is one thing, sharing what you do in the bedroom with your mother and vice versa is another!  i'm sorry, i would never want to know my parents "favorite oral sex position", *shudder*  yeaah...

    but more importantly, it was really sad that a 16 year old girl had 5 sexual partners was a total non-issue!

    bulanjdjan's picture

    Can't see these

    outside the States :(
    purple_squirrel's picture

    i know :( I wish it said

    i know :(

    I wish it said in the description

     

    I saw a show like this in the UK, so odd with the positions things!

    one of the ones i saw was a gay guy and his father and another was a bisexual girl and her mother, when she told her mum by writing this note and her mum was so comforting to her

    petiteframboise's picture

    kinda disturbing.

    omgosh, that second video... if my mother were going to answer me those questions, i'd probably cut her off in the middle of it screaming: "no! don't tell me, i don't wanna know!!!" maybe it's just me, but even when my mother tries to talk to me about sex, i freak out. it's not that the topic itself bothers me, i just don't wanna hear my own mother talk about it...
    and... 5 sex partners at age 16? um, well, good for her... i guess. haha.
    kristiwright's picture

    More educational information

    I really think shows like this are important, but they need more of an educational component for the public...with all the misconceptions and erroneous beliefs about gay people out there, dissimintating information from professionals about how being gay isn't a choice, can't be changed and efforts to do so are harmful would go a long way in moving parents (and society in general) toward acceptance. 

    "You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." - Anne Lamott

     

    ms_drummer's picture

    Didn't change parents' view...

    Although open communication is a good thing, I don't know if going that far with your parents is what people would do in every day life.  I believe that yes parents should be aware if their teenagers are sexually active, but I wouldn't want to hear about "mom's" best sexual experiences with "dad"  That's just way too much.  And why so much talk about sex?  That's not all that gay relationships are about.  They spent little time talking about feelings of caring or love.   But I guess that's why the show is titled as it is.  My bad. 

    Overall, I doubt this really helped her parents accept her lifestyle.  I mean Dr. Drew barely brought out the father's reasoning behind how he feels at all.  They could have had the host of TRL or something hand out ice breaker cards.  Geez.  (smile).  

     

    Kymberlie_21's picture

    I don't see the problem...

    with her age and her sleeping with people?

    i suppose its different for us because here in the UK thats the legal age for sex and when we get newspaper stories of 11 year olds pregnant, sixteen seems like a good achievement more than anything.

    Good luck to her!

    RTBCanada's picture

    that's

    not uncommon where i'm from. Speaking as a fellow Texan (like Baylee) there's not a helluva lot you can do here, it get's boring real quick. Most girls lose their v-card by the time they're 13. Then again, maybe i just went to school with slutty girls (and thankful for it!).


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