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The Lo-Down Episode 2.5

In this week's episode, Sarah P. and I give you a (fake) follow-up on the gaydar detection system's unintended side effects, welcome Officer Crenshaw of the Lesbian Fashion Police (LFP), and tackle such hot Crock P.O.C. topics as what kind of lesbian movie we'd make, how Sarah P. knows I'm gay, cats vs. dogs, and interracial dating on The L Word (thanks to Lyndsey for the idea). And more bedtime stories!

This episode seems to be quite pets-focused, in fact, as you'll notice we get a surprise visit from Stuart the Cat. As always, send us your Crock P.O.C. suggestions in the comments.

The Lo-Down: Episode 2.5

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  • spotticus's picture

    Looking forward

    Looking forward to seeing the Lo Down on location in a couple of weeks.  Have a good vacation.  As always, this vlog rocked.  You guys (and stewart (stuart?) the cat) had me in stiches.  Thanks!  Dangman, I am still laughing about the cat camping.  ; )
    lunakiss's picture

    FashionPolice,Storytime,Les Interracial Talk and Stewart-the cat

     Fake Headlines are getting more creative,hahaha!. Sarah P., why is it you look so hot in uniforms. Too bad you're taken. I sure won't mind if F.P. pulled me over and arrested me. By the way,there's a pic of Dani on her myspace page,where she made up from her awful fashion wear on A Shot of love with confused girl, by sportin' a hot black suit,a  photo from her upcoming Curve April issue interview. I thought I'll throw that in there.

    Lesbian Interracial Dating. I think Lesbianism does over race sometimes. It depends where you from or are too. I wish I can say I dated many different racial and ethnic womyn,but I have not. My last girlfriend was Africn-American, but I'm crushing over a white womyn on my job. I'm racially diversed in general anyway,friends and hope future female lovers. A womyn is a womyn you know.

    Oh,Stewart, you're the cutest black cat ever. I guess you the house. Sure is nice to meet you.

    Have a relaxing vacation you two.

     

    "Do I have to dial 9 to call 911?"( This  quote was shared to me by a nurse who was talking about her then 14 year old  daughter who asked her  this while the father was suffering a heat stroke)

    not without my coffee's picture

    Once again

    Cheers, this vlog was,once again, brilliant. You're fake news really are entertaining.

    Have a nice holliday and I'm looking forward to seeing your "on location" instalment in a fortnight.

     

     

    For a merrier life, befriend the elephant in your room.

    opelchan's picture

    Butch in Bikini

    A friend of mine and I traveled to Greece (no, not Lesvos, it was too far for us), then she got herself a bikini, I was the one driving the scooter, everytime I look at the mirror, I felt disturbed, distracted and worrying about crashing it!

    POC: Do Malinda see herself in 'saving face'? Y'all are so well traveled, where is the best city/town for lesbians(generally)?

    Photography, Bicycle, Tennis, Badminton, Motorcycle, Bowling, Traveling, Engineering, Law
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    WindRyderX's picture

    Awww....

    No Lo-Down next week? that makes me sad...where am i gonna get my Crock POC fix? hope u guys enjoy ur vaca and hopefully you'll give us a full run down of your trip when u get back. And make sure to take lots of pics! Great job with the show again ladies!
    o0onichelleo0o's picture

    interracial dating

    Does lesbian trump race? Yes and no. I think it depends. But I think that to say it's a bigger issue for heterosexual relationships is silly. Because I've seen just as many lesbian relationships fail or not start at all because of race issues as heterosexual relationships. And as a black/latina woman I have no experience on what it's like for white women but I know that for me dating out of my race seems to bother a lot more POC that whites. I've been told that I'm exhibiting reverse racism, that I need to "connect with my roots".

    I also think your race has a lot to do with your experience in interracial relationships as well. For example a large percentage of the interracial relationships I've seen feature a butch POC (many times a black woman) with a more feminine white woman. Something which we've seen on the Lword with Tasha and Alice. The second type of pairing I've seen often seems to almost mimic what I see in heterosexual relationships: A white woman (butch, andro, whatever) with a non-black POC. The pairing I see the least frequently is that of a white woman with a femme black woman. (I was told (more than once) this is because black women appear more aggressive and less feminine that other women and so appear more intimidating. WTF?!) Now a pairing that I see quite frequently that doesn't (usually) adhere to my informal stats above is that of a POC with another POC. Why? I don't know.

    Anywho all that I'm saying is that I think lesbian interracial dating is pretty on par with heterosexual interracial dating. I think we just hope that it'd be less of an issue than it is. And maybe San Francisco is different. But from the places I've lived I know that DC has a very segregated lesbian community. The same can be said for Atlanta (where the local gay mag even wrote about it here http://www.sovo.com/2006/4-7/news/localnews/gaps.cfm and here http://www.sovo.com/2006/3-24/news/localnews/gayatl.cfm

    And New York isn't much better.

    Thanks for the vlog. It was entertaining as usual. Keep it up!

    jackedup77's picture

    that's a challenge.

    that's a challenge.

    I'm now on the lookout for a femme black woman with a butch white woman. 'cause I've never seen such a creature. I'm almost ashamed of myself.

    I know they exist but I need validation to make me feel a little better about the world we live in.

    Don't ask.

    betsys2003's picture

    Uh, why does a couple have

    Uh, why does a couple have to have a femme half and a butch half? Aren't we past that?

    The last woman I really dated was black (I'm white) but I think we were both fairly middle-of-the-road. Not really femme, not really butch. I feel like a lot of couples I know fall into that category (butch-femme wise, not necessarily race-wise).

    o0onichelleo0o's picture

    they don't

    I was just listing frequencies of type of interracial couples I've seen personally. Most, if not all, of which had elements of what I'd consider butch or femme.

    And could you please explain what you meant by "past that"?

    explorergal's picture

    Happy Vacation

    I was cat pinned as I was watching this.  Another great vlog!

    Officer Crenshaw....very nice, hope you make another appearance!

    Love Stuart! 

    jackedup77's picture

    oh well

    I'm the butch with the trunks and bikini top. bite me. First, There's this genetic issue I have, if I'm near a body of water (a clean body of water) I'm gonna wanna get in the water. I understand being at a pool party to socialize; but, I'm instinctually drawn to the water..screw socializing. SO, I'm not wearing a shirt or a sports bra. Second, the sports bra as outerwear really bugs the hell out of me. Third, I'm more comfortable showing my stomach than my bare ass; hence, no one piece. In a perfect world, I'd be topless with board shorts.

    For lesbians, dating women is a necessity, not a choice. Either date women or not date at all. Interracial dating is still a choice. I'm still very puzzled by people who won't date outside their race (more puzzled by those who won't date their race). I've been to a lot of different countries. Without fail, you'll eventually hear me say, "damn, these women are hot!" I'm all about overcoming cultural boundaries.

    dogs rule, cats drool. Actually, i have nothing against cats. At first I was flattered when cats would come up to me wanting to be petted; since they're so standoffish. Now I know they do it because they know I'm allergic.

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    My cat does drool!

    Especially when I am kittypinned.  Love dogs though.  And I have found that children are drawn to me, much like cats are drawn to you, but in my case, its not an allergy thing, it just that the children can smell my fear.  ; )
    bbskatz's picture

    GREAT VLOG AGAIN

    Of all the episodes that the Lo-Down has done, this is one of the best!!  (And all of them are great!)  

    Loved the discussion of cat lesbians vs. dog lesbians!  The cat analogies by Sarah are so true in our household too ("kitty-pinned" lol)!

    Going to miss you guys next week, but some time off is always deserved!  

     

      

    soapvivor's picture

    Random thought: Dani

    I think that Dani should go onto American Gladiators.

    1) She would kick their ass

    2) She'd look soo cool in the AG gear!

    3) Who doesn't want to see Dani again? But in a cool kick ass form!

    kephallinian's picture

    Jones

    ah...luv the Indiana Jones idea...
    Partida's picture

    Lesbians and interracial dating....

    i grew up in a small town in texas and at my high school interracial dating between lesbians wasn't really a big thing because we were trying to handle just being in a lesbian relationship in a homophobic school. to think of all the relationships i've been in have been interracial, but i dont ever think much of it. i can say that were i come from there are two destinct groups of lesbians, the one's involved in theatre/band/speech and the ones who played sports. it just so happens that the lesbians who played sports were mostly african american women. those two groups never socialized together and a person from one group never dated a person from the other. but other than that interracial dating hasn't ever seemed like a big deal to me.

    I'm having delusions of granduer.....

    Partida

    jamlawgirl's picture

    Malinda, I must say your

    Malinda, I must say your jacket and low cut top were a bit distracting this episode. Looking good :P

    As for butch fashion: some butches can't pull off a bikini top, but some can. I really don't think you can ever say there's a hard and fast rule that applies to everyone with these things.

    As for interracial dating, I'm a black femme Jamaican woman and I've dated white men and white butch women.  I'm open to all races and genders. I'm truly equal opportunity! I have a hard time understanding why everyone isn't, lol.

    I've also dated black men, but curiously no black women. A lot of it has to do with the fact that there aren't that many out black women, unfortunately.

    In any case, for the commenter above who doubts she'll ever see such a thing as a black femme with a white butch, it can and does happen:).

    Xiomara's picture

    Interracial dating...

    I'm currently in an interracial relationship and the issues that we had (the operative word is 'had') is that my partner is from a predominantly white country, so she didn't grow up around any people of color. I mean her upbringing was so "vanilla" that when she first got to the States, Italians and Jews were very "ethnic" to her (my partner's from ireland).

    We met at a party thru mutual friends and she thought because 1) I spoke "assimilated American english", and 2) my friends that I came to the party with were all white that I was one of those "ashamed to be black/wanna-be-white" African-Americans. She learned soon enough how wrong she was!!!!!

    My biggest issue with interracial dating is that IN MY EXPERIENCE, I often see the person of color doing the majority of the adapting and I don't like that. I don't tolerate at all. I truly believe some minorities think that that is the only way to get along with the Caucasian persuasion and that's sad.

    My partner and I have lasted 3.5 years because not only do we genuinely love each other but we don't play the whole American melting pot game. She's Irish, I'm African-American - both experiences will have equal footing. For me, it could not be any other way.

    lynsvike's picture

    Interesting posts

    It's really interesting to read about other folks experiences with interracial lesbian dating.  I think that my experiences have definitely been influenced by location. My experiences in Chicago were very different than the one in Nashville.  In Nashville there was some clear back lash against my relationship with my now ex-girlfriend. (She is African-American, I'm white).  With both got a lot of reaction, questions, and disbelief from friends, family, and curious strangers.  I have to say that I've not seen a lot of interracial non-straight couples in this town.  I feel like Nashville is still not gay-friendly enough, and is still way to southern, for a interracial lesbian couple too "not be a big deal."  

    Anyway, I digress.  It was a great episode, thanks for using my Crock POC question.  It was the highlight of my last Tuesday.  In honor of V-day, and the fact that I just saw Eve Ensler speak, I pose to you this question- What is your favorite word or phrase to use when referencing a vagina?  

    On a final note, someone above noted that Malinda's top was distracting and I have to second that statement.  And the bed time stories are great.

    Hope that vacation is fantastic! 

    LilyJadeRose's picture

    love the vlog...

    ...i think you both are quite witty and fun.  but i can't help but wonder, why is it that you over look bisexuals in your segments?  i often feel that we are the minority within the minority and perhaps you could discuss the issue (and why most lesbians feel that we are not to be trusted) in your crock POC series.  anyhoo...love the vlog and i'll continue to watch! *smooches*

    ~like a heartbeat, love keeps us strong...~

    Xiomara's picture

    It comes down to anatomy.

    Lesbians can't compete if we don't have a male's lower region protrusion, if you will. Lol

    No offense but that (the "neglect") comes with the territory of being bisexual i.e. some (or most) homos and heteros will proceed with caution when it comes to dealing with you romantically. Being a lesbian of color, I know how you feel because thereare  times when I don't exactly feel embraced by the community. 

    jackedup77's picture

    "Lesbians can't compete if

    "Lesbians can't compete if we don't have a male's lower region protrusion, if you will. Lol"

    Dude, that's not funny, not funny at all. It's kind of sad. Now relationships all boil down to what's between someone's legs? God forbid love, support, understanding, mutual interests, kindness, emotional security, etc, were factored into a relationship.

    I'm going to assume you've never slept with a man. If you had, you'd know that was a ridiculous statement. That's the only way I can be convinced you're serious.

    I'm wishing you were being sarcastic. I really hope you were.

    If I was a heterosexual and I came on here saying that ya'll are lesbians because you just can't get a man, I wouldn't get away with that shit. And rightly so. Why should we tolerate comments like that?

    malindalo's picture

    I'd like to think

    I'd like to think that Xiomara was expressing the fact that she understands how bisexuals are often excluded from the lesbian community because she has experienced that as a person of color. Isn't the English language fun? Let's play nice, folks! :)
    jackedup77's picture

    I got that part too.

    I understand where she's coming from. I just have a problem with the particular comment. I don't have anything against Xiomara; I don't even know her. My situation makes me a little hyper-vigilant about shady comments, even if they were made with good intentions. I'd feel like a big hypocrite being an activist and not speaking up when I hear/see things like that. How would I look if I only spoke out when straight men said that and let it pass when a gay woman says it?

     

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    Didn't mean to offend you. Sorry.

    And I thought I was being frank yet tactful. *blush* 

    No, I have not had sex with a guy; the idea of doing so has never interested me.

    My point about bisexual exclusion from the lesbian community is that while it isn't intentional (I truly believe that), you, as a bisexual, should accept the fact that it comes with the territory. Yes, some lesbians will date bisexuals but don't be offended if other gay females are more reticent because it could be potentially devastating for them to start dating you and then you'd leave her for a guy. A girl she can compete with but a guy? Not possible and we're human so naturally we'll think his appendage (among other things) had something to do with the break-up.

    (Thanks, Malinda; I try my best to post in an assertive yet peaceful manner) 

    jackedup77's picture

    No need to apologize, I'm

    No need to apologize, I'm not offended.

    I thought It was just an odd thing to say. Made my spidey senses tingle. Now-a-days I don't let too many people say things without questioning it. I like things clear and upfront

    No, the appendage ain't the thing. You know, I do hear some women say, "I love women but I just can't give up the cock..."; one thing, they're porn stars, or wannabe porn stars. In other words, women that aren't looking for monogamous relationships anyway. I'll say that, immature is the least I'd call someone who decided to end a relationship because they were missing the appendage.

    For a lot of bisexuals, it's not a competition. I guess it's odd because I don't compete. Either you want to be with me or you don't. I'm not putting on a dog and pony show for anybody.

    Anyway, I think I could have responded a bit differently.

    cheers, mate

    malindalo's picture

    Bisexuals

    Well, LilyJadeRose, I feel like we did discuss bisexuality quite a bit when we were focusing on "A Shot at Love With Tila Tequila." However, there's always room for more discussion! We'll add it to our Crock POC topics. Thanks for the idea.
    mayu's picture

    Interracial dating

    I was a bit surprised when the question about interracial dating popped up. I have never before thought about it in such a way. I love women and I don't care whether their are from another race, country, continent or planet for that matter. I'm currently in a interracial relationship, my girlfriend is Japanese and I'm Bulgarian (which makes me Caucasian). The first time I saw her I thought that she was beautiful and I didn't even think about her as someone from another race/country. We have never addressed this issue because there is no issue.

    Before her, I've been in other interracial relationships and intercountrial (think I just created a new word but you get what I mean) relationships. I've dated a Phillipino girl, an Italian girl, a Canadian girl, an Australian girl, a Greek girl, a Thai girl, Serbo-Croatian and in any of the cases it did not matter that they are from a different race or country. Nor did it matter to the people around me. A girl is a girl.

    Let's stop labelling ourselves and further segmenting ourselves it is enough as it is. We're women and we love women. In my opinion, these (race, country, city, etc.etc) are boundaries that are made up by people and that do NOT really exist. We were born on this planet and there are no differences between us. If you ask me, there should even be country bordelines, yet alone other separations like these.


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