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Note to TCM: "Gay" = gay men AND lesbians

Cable channel Turner Classic Movies has announced that in honor of Gay Pride in June, it's going to air a month-long series of films exploring "the varied concepts, stereotypes and imagery of gays & lesbians as represented in classic Hollywood cinema." Hosted by film historian Richard Barrios (Screened Out: Playing Gay in Hollywood from Edison to Stonewall), the series — which will air every Monday and Wednesday night in June at 8 p.m. ET — will also have guest commentary from "several prominent figures [who] will provide their thoughts and remarks, including Michael Musto, Tab Hunter, Ron Nyswaner, Charles Busch and Alan Cumming."

My first thought upon hearing this: Cool! Strong women in menswear!

My second thought: Hey, none of those people in that press release are women. Some of the films the series will air include The Broadway Melody (1929), The Maltese Falcon (1941), The Picture of Dorian Grey (1945) and Designing Woman (1957). These are undoubtedly classics, but where are the ladies?

I know that the schedule may not yet have been finalized, so there's still time for TCM to properly represent the "gay and lesbian" experience by including some lesbians — both as commenters and in films. In case TCM is looking for some suggestions as to which to include, might I suggest the following:

Marlene Dietrich in Morocco (1930)

That movie poster just doesn't adequately prepare you for what you'll see in the film; here's a hint (or watch Ms. Dietrich kiss a girl on our Video Picks page):

Greta Garbo in Queen Christina (1933)

Katharine Hepburn in Christopher Strong (1933)

What are your favorite classic subtexty Hollywood films?

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  • Danielag's picture

    TCM should take a "Walk on the Wild Side"

    Its from a little later that the other films they chose, but I would love to see "Walk on the Wild Side" from 1962. It has Capucine, Barbara Stanwyck, Anne Baxter, and a very young Jane Fonda. Laurence Harvey is there too. It's truly magnificent in that it uses practicaly every single cliché in order to indicate that Capucine's character is a lesbian without actually saying it. I mean, she's French, and lived in New York, and is an artist, and is a prostitute. Also the Stanwyck character gives an empasioned speach about how men just can't understand women the way that women can understan each other to her leg-less husband. Yes, the lesbian character is married to a man with no legs. I wonder that that's supposed to represent...
    browne's picture

    Well Calamity Jane has got

    Well Calamity Jane has got to be in there, obviously.

    According to The Celluloid Closet, Lauren Bacall's character in Young Man With A Horn was meant to be a lesbian... although I haven't seen the movie, so I can't say how clearly that comes across.

    Isn't there some movie with Hepburn called Sylvia Scarlet where she has to disguise herself as a boy for some reason?

    There's both version of The Children's Hour (if you want something depressing... and subtextual or textual, depending which version you watch).

    Am I the only one to find Jo in the 1949 (colour) film of Little Women rather lesbianish? I know Hepburn played the part in an earlier black-and-white version (which I haven't seen), so I can well imagine there may be some subtext in that one too.

    it uses practicaly every single cliché in order to indicate that Capucine's character is a lesbian without actually saying it. I mean, she's French, and lived in New York, and is an artist, and is a prostitute.

    Um... wow. I hadn't actually realised that any of those things is meant to indicate that someone is a lesbian! Being French? Doesn't that include a rather large number of women?

    dirty third's picture

    err...

    she's French, and lived in New York, and is an artist, and is a prostitute.

    being a prostitute is a cliche for lesbianism? meaning, more sex with men?! *bes confused*

    MindsABlank's picture

    From what I remember about

    From what I remember about Young Man With A Horn, Lauren is pretty damn gay.  She marries Kirk Douglas, gets bored and starts cultivating all these young female 'protegées'.

    What about Black Widow?  Theresa Russell and Debra Winger have amazing chemistry in that and I spent most of the second half of the film expecting them to get it on (sadly though my Debra Winger lesbian fix had to wait until Eulogy!).

    "I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is really bad, and it's depressing."

    jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

    Rebecca

    Mrs. Danvers was so classically lesbian, not to mention also insane and prone to fits of arson. It's been so long since I read the book, but I'm pretty sure that she was even more lesbian in the book than in the movie. Still, in the movie it's abundantly clear that she loved the first Mrs. DeWinter, and not in an employee/employer way.
    MsWoo's picture

    DOH!

    So THAT's why she was so obsessed with the first Mrs. DeWinter!

     

    (incredibly slow Woo, sometimes)

    Trix's picture

    Yes, indeed

    Honestly, I think one of my moments in realising that I wasn't "like other girls" was watching that film when I was about twelve on Sunday afternoon TV. That scene with the fur coat!
    Final Girl's picture

    I second 'Rebecca'...

    ...and I nominate The Haunting ('63). Not only is it a fantastic haunted house movie, but there's plenty of lesbian subtext that it's thisclose to simply being overt text. Reading the film as a parable about sexual repression isn't difficult.

    It's absolutely one of my favorite films, more than partially because Claire Bloom is such a gorgeous predatory-but-in-a-sexy-way-not-a-psycho-way lez. :) Hubba hubba!

    bozley77's picture

    Two more thirty years apart

    Dracula's Daughter (1936) and The Group (1966)
    Jessie Maims's picture

    Don't dismiss Broadway Melody yet.

    Luckily, I have a good dyke-y friend who is obsessed with old, contrived musicals, so I've actually seen The Broadway Melody (1929). The relationship between the two main characters is subtextually lesbian, even though they are set up as "sisters" (who look nothing alike, and one goes by "Hank"). They share a pretty passionate kiss toward the end, too. http://chud.com/nextraimages/BROADWAYMELODY1929-1.jpg

    And don't forget the butch costume mistress in the scene with the sissy designer in The Celluloid Closet! ("Yeah, if you had designed them, they would have been lavender!")

    More in-depth on the "lesbian plot": http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA01/Manzella/broadwaymelody/broadwaymelody.html
    moon_river's picture

    i cant wait....

    i am an avid watcher of TCM, so i am pretty darn excited for this! :-D

    wyle e coyote's picture

    I second Jane (and love Claire Bloom)

    Totally agree that Claire Bloom is really hot in The Haunting. 

    But I think Calamity Jane is one of the most lesbionic movies of all time.  It's like the Brokeback Mountain of its time.  Think about it: Two people of the same sex attempting to make house in the wilderness but ultimately end up with other people (only it has to be a happy ending in Jane because it's a musical). 

    Even more lesbian about it: A butch and a femme living together and singing about a "Secret Love" and how "A Woman's Touch" is like magic.  TOTALLY GAY!!!

    TheWeyrd1's picture

    Sylvia/Sylvester

    How about Katherine Hepburn in Sylvia/Sylvester. She even kisses another woman while in boy drag. I saw that film while at Ohio State in about '84 in a course called Women In Film. I believe the professor was a lesbian and we were treated to 3 films with Hepburn, 3 with Marlena Dietrich and 3 with um....uh....well it was over 20 years ago...lol
    grandma's picture

    not to be nitpicky...

    but its sylvia scarlett. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027067/ a classic for sure.

    a couple suggestions for tcm: the children's hour, pandora's box.

    TheWeyrd1's picture

    you're right...and I wondered if I recalled that correctly

    Was she called Sylvester in her boy drag character perhaps?
    TheWeyrd1's picture

    Oh yeah....

    And the other 3 films we watched were with Bette Davis! See message further down regarding "All About Eve" which I found confusing at the time...hehehe
    spotticus's picture

    Some more classics for TCM's consideration

    1931's "Madchen in Uniform".  1954's "Johnny Guitar" with Joan Crawford and Mercedes McCambridge.

    And for pure camp, throw in "The Violent Years", Ed Wood's 1950's classic of "leather-jacketed deliquent devil dolls. Spoiled rich debutantes form a girl gang; they rob gas stations, rape rich guys and strip down "goody" girls".

    royaroo's picture

    YES!

    "Johnny Guitar" should DEFINATELY be on that list.   I watched that movie in college for a class on Westerns ... we spent a whole hour talking about the lesbian undercurrents through the whole film.

     Craziness.

    lisaR's picture

    Stage Door

    StageDoor from 1937stars Katherine Hepburn, Ginger Rogers, Lucille Ball an tells the story of a group of actresses living in a boarding house in New York.

     

    Need i say more...

     

    It is a fantastic and very witty film.

    boganville's picture

    All About Eve

    In "All About Eve", Anne Baxter's single white female routine that she was pulling on Bette Davies was subtext and then some!

    Lots of very unsubtle nods to lesbianism in this film. Example:

    BILL
    Need any help?

    MARGO(Bette Davies)
    (pauses, smiles)
    To put me to bed? Take my clothes
    off, hold my head, tuck me in, turn
    off the lights, tiptoe out...? Eve
    would. Wouldn't you, Eve?

    EVE(Anne Baxter)
    If you'd like.

     

    That movie was completely dykeadelic :)

     

    Totally agree with spotticus on "Johnny Guitar". I can't remember anything from that movie except for Mercedes McCambridge making a lot of "I wanna f*** you" eyes at Joan Crawford.

    blew's picture

    Little Tidbit!

    Tallulah Bankhead, upon meeting Joan Crawford shortly after her marriage to Douglas Fairbanks, stated, "Darling, you're divine. I've had an affair with your husband. You'll be next."
    jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

    LOL

    That is classic Bankhead! She also said "Daddy warned me about booze and men, but he never said anything about women and pills."
    Jessie Maims's picture

    Not pills, but cocaine. It's

    Not pills, but cocaine. It's much funnier that way! Lolocaust.
    kicka61's picture

    TCM's Library

    The exclusion of women, though often typical in these types of salutes or retrospectives, may actually have something to do with TCM's limited library.  Because so many of their films are from MGM, they might not have rights to air some of the RKO and Warner Bros. pics mentioned above.  That said, I'm sure they could have found at least a couple of films that inlcuded lesbian (or alluded-to-lesbian) characters.  I salute them for even going this far on the topic of homosexual themes in film.

    Melissa Hsu's picture

    Much more in the book

    but then Daphne Du Maurier did have a few girlfriends besides her husband and three kids. Yet another example of an adaptation where the ending is changed to suit the studio.
    ♠elizabeth's picture

    Yum

    Marlene Dietrich is my absolute favorite, Morocco is fabulous. She worked the suit.

    How about the first movie to EVER have a lesbian character, Pandora's Box (1929). Excellent silent film with the sexy Louise Brooks, where she ruins everyone who loves her, including a countess.

    Its a must-see, along with "The Children's Hour". I love classic subtexty cinema!! ^_^

    Mary_had_a_lamb_in_PT's picture

    Movie Marathon

    I am soooo gonna do a movie marathon with all these Lez Classics...

    oh what an idea! I'm gonna ring my friends right now! :D

     

     

    (ps- yes ppl, Mary's still alive :P)

    SDani's picture

    How Much Time Ya Got?

    A Florida Enchantment (1914), Manslaughter (1922), Dracula's Daughter (1936), Rebecca (1940), Young Man With A Horn (1950), All About Eve (1950), Caged (1950)

    Mercedes McCambridge is always a bull-dyke type character, ie. - Johnny Guitar (1954), Giant (1956), Touch of Evil (1958)

    Screaming Mimi (1958), The Goddess (1958), The Children's Hour (1962), Walk on the Wild Side (1962) 

    And of course I could go on, but the Production Code becomes obsolete, and therefore innuendo becomes less subtext and more in your face (though generally not in the most accurate or flattering of ways).  Nevertheless, there is much to say about the lesbian in classic Hollywood films.  I should know.  I just finished a 60 page thesis on it