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Interview With Sarah Waters

Author Sarah Waters' second novel, Affinity, which involves women in prison, spirits (as in the dead kind) and an ingenious mystery, has been adapted into a TV movie that just had its American television premiere on Logo, AfterEllen.com's parent company, and that movie is now available on DVD. Back in June, when the movie screened at Frameline in San Francisco, I had the opportunity to sit down with Sarah Waters in person. I toted along my trusty camcorder and videotaped our conversation for you to see. (That means don't expect anything too flashy! This is a straight-up interview, vlog-style.)

We talked about the movie version of Affinity, whether she feels pressure to write happy lesbian stories, and what she likes to watch on TV in her spare time. She also gave us a sneak preview of her next book, which she is currently writing. Meanwhile, you can read through lots of our previous coverage of Sarah Waters right here.

Interview With Sarah Waters

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  • fee's picture

    Love the Britishness

    I read Affinity last year, and I loved it! I'm really curious about the movie/tv film.
    I still have to read Nightwatch, it's on my long list of 'books I still have to read'!

    And WHAT! No lesbian characters!?
    No, I'm just kidding. I'll read it; "gloomy post-war Britain" sounds really good to me.
    Funny, I also like American shows, but I think Britain has some great ones as well (Afterlife and the Inspectorl Lynley Mysteries in particular, they're brilliant...although I know, they have both stopped now).


    Thanks for this interview, I really liked it!

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    ice cream's picture

    Nightwatch

    OK, I'm confused... can't listen to the interview right now because I'm at work, but I'm getting from the comments here that there are no lesbian characters in Nightwatch, right? I have a beautiful edition of this book and there's definitely a bit of the gay :-) It just doesn't focus on it (and it's an amazing book by the way - worth the read).

    mcloe's picture

    no, not night watch. the one

    no, not night watch. the one after that...night watch is full of gay :D
    mcloe's picture

    sarah waters...OMG!!!

    i'm such a huge fan. fingersmith is one of the finest book ever written in my opinion. thank you sarah for creating amazing fiction, with characters that just happened to be gay. all the books are brilliant & refreshing to read.

    thanks malinda for this vlog. sarah was full of humility & down-to-earthness in this interview, it makes me adore her more, as if her intelligence & genius writing isn't enough to make me swoon. plus i find her totally HOT in this vid. haha... ok i'm trying to be semi-professional in this post, but what can i do? i'm such a fangirl at heart. sarah waters rocks!!! LOL

    p/s: but really, no lesbian character? what the hell? :P 

    London's picture

    The Book Was Amazing

    Affinity The Film Was Sorry To Say............Pants

    Iv'e Read All Sarah Waters Books And Affinity Was the Most Compelling Thing Ive ever read

    The Adaptions Like The Books Iv'e Watched Tipping The Velvet & Fingersmith They Were Pretty True

    Affinity On The Other hand Was Nowhere As Good As The Book.

     

    PROUD TO BE BRITISH...

     

    ice cream's picture

    Great interview

    I might be a bad lesbian for saying this, but I havn't read a single book by Sarah Waters. Although I have seen Fingersmith and Tipping the Velvet, that's gotta count for something, right? Right?! :)

     

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    Natazzz's picture

    Awesome

    I heart Sarah Waters. Thanks so much for this interview.

    LOL @ Malinda declaring "I love TV". 

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    caterpillar's picture

    well i've read

    all of her books...the last one, nightwatch, was really different from her "usual stuff", not a pageturner for me, but i still liked it...sorta...it was very different^^

    but the movie "affinity" was - nicely spoken - not as good as fingersmith (still my favourite in book and film) and ttv (liked the book, tolerate the movie;))

    well, i wouldnt watch it again, so much for sure, i'm afraid

    lickido's picture

    Great Interview

    I read all her books and saw all the adaptations, except Affinty, which was shot here in Romania, I'll probably recognise some interiors.

    Tipping the Velvet was such a fun novel and mini-series. Fingersmith I enjoyed even more, though I didn't like the film that much, excellent production values, great actors, of course, but... a bit too much on the commercial side IMO, and it changed some things in the novel that worked just fine for me.

    The Night Watch was so different, more classically modern, of course; strangely I found myself more involved in the discreet relationship between  the male characters, at some point.  Though Kay was dashing, my hero. :-) 

     

    kreigen's picture

    Hooray!

    Sarah Waters :) Great interview - I can't wait for the Affinity adaptation to make it's way over here, the book had me guessing right up until the end. And a Night Watch one in production - I think that one will make a great movie too.

    I for one am not bothered about the next book not involving any lesbian storyline. I love her writing style and personally think it would be a little narrow minded if anyone were to rule out reading the book altogether just because of that.

    And the road stretched on like an angry woman...

    dypole's picture

    Right there with you, Malinda, on the love for all things Gothic

    I actually got into Sarah Waters' books not because of the lesbian element but because of the neo-Gothic, Victorian facets of the books. Sarah Waters' attention to detail is impeccable, and somehow, that doesn't impede her ability to write compelling narratives. Tipping the Velvet was a joyous romp of a book (even if I didn't agree with the ending), and Fingersmith was ingenious in its constant identity switches. And even outside the Victorian element, as in Night Watch, Sarah Waters still employs her seemingly avid research skills and flair for creative narrative twists (seriously, time travel AND different character viewpoints?) to create a wonderful book. It doesn't surprise me that Night Watch will be made into a movie, though I think a longer miniseries, one that would allow for brooding views of war-torn London, would serve it much better than a 90-minute one-shot (in fact, I think a feature film with Cate Blanchett as Kay and Kate Winslet as Helen would be best, but what do I know?).

    Affinity, however, is, in my opinion, the height of Sarah Waters' talents. I read it a few months ago for the first time and was absolutely floored by how terrifying it is. A lot of reviews I had read claimed that you can see the ending coming, but I honestly could not, and when it did come, it felt like someone had punched me in the gut; it's just so much the antithesis of a happy ending, and in such a twisted way, that by it alone I loved Affinity. But even beyond that, the disturbing codependency that forms between Margaret and Selina, interspliced with diary entries that recount Victorian seances and underscore the increasingly blurred line between this life and the next, and the descriptions of life in a women's prison in late-1800s London kept me reading well into the night. It's just so incredibly, deliciously twisted.

    And with that...I'm off to watch the Affinity movie.

    "Out of the box is where I live." -Starbuck

    trypr's picture

    I completely agree (warning: possible spoilers)

    What is fantastic about the book is the way it exploits the medium; when you pick up a novel there's no way to be sure what kind of fiction it is. You can wonder things in that fantasy space that modern cynicism might preclude, revealing things both about yourself and the material you are attempting to relate to.

    I think the ending hits you so hard because it becomes personal; and it reveals the central theme of the book, it's power over people, in a way that would not be possible through normal discourse. The emotional journey you embark upon exposes our own and others circumstantial vulnerability.

    (It is so hard to write about this without spoiling it and suspension of disbelief is so crucial to the book's success. Perhaps it works better if you regularly enjoy fantastic fiction?)

    I didn't love the ending for the fact it was "twisted" but it has my admiration for the way in which Sarah Waters so masterfully manipulates the reader. I far preferred Fingersmith, which was a great, well written book, but Affinity is her best piece of work.

    mcloe's picture

    i suppose if i didn't see

    i suppose if i didn't see the twist in end coming, it'll be higher ranked in my top books. i did sadly, though i still felt the 'punch-in-the-gut' feeling, which really showed how great of a storyteller sarah waters is. i sometimes can't help but wonder if this is only 'chapter one' of margaret/selena story, 'the betrayal chapter' similar like fingersmith, and if 'chapter 2 & 3' exist, they would have their happy ending.
    Nothing's picture

    I didn't enjoy Affinity

    the same way I enjoyed Tipping the Velvet and Fingersmith.  The ending was very depressing and I didn't care for the way the main character was taken advantage of.  The way the character ended things reminded me of older novels about lesbians where they had to commit suicide to show that being a lesbian wasn't a good thing.  Personally, I don't agree that it's now ok to kill off the lesbians again because we've somehow come full circle in lesbian entertainment.  I've always preferred a happy ending.
    ice cream's picture

    :O no lesbian characters in

    :O no lesbian characters in the new book?!?! oh well, i know i'll love it anyhow.

    p.s. did Malinda have somewhere else to be? :P she kept checking her watch.

    Malinda Lo's picture

    Sorry!

    I kept checking my watch because I had a limited amount of time with Sarah Waters but no camera operator or anybody else to help me keep track of time. I realize it might have looked tacky, but it's the only way I could make sure to ask my most important questions before our time ran out. Sorry if it was distracting! I absolutely would have interviewed her for an hour if she had the time.
    Wuther's picture

    that watch!

    Ah, thank you for explaining, though you did not have to. It was the other way around, then, and I misunderstood the looking-at-the-watch gesture. Well, the more I appreciate the work you did with the interview. You squeezed the most from the limited time you had with her. Well done, Malinda! :)

    Looking forward to hearing about your books in future Malinda! :)

    sugarboogar22's picture

    No lesbian characters?????

    No lesbian characters????? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    Wuther's picture

    Sarah Waters

    Ah Malinda, you're so lucky, and Sarah is so cute! And fun, and lighthearted, and down-to-earth! :) Thanks for the interview, Malinda. I would have thrown away my watch, though--this is Sarah Waters after all--who cares about other appointments? Lol!

    I think it's a good thing that her next novel will not have lesbian characters in it. She's such a talented writer that there's a good chance the novel will be brilliant with or without lesbians. There's no reason why she should confine herself to lesbian characters. I think it's a brilliant move on her part career-wise.

    Sarah, you're my hero, and I love you. Mmmwah! :)

    Prince Di's picture

    Jealous

    You got to interview...Say What!. I can deal least it was you Malinda. You have good taste in authors and books.
    luna81de's picture

    Great interview!

    OMG, so many good news :) I can't wait to see Affinity.

    And Night Watch will be made into a 90 minutes film. Uh oh, I hope it will be good. It's my fave Sarah Waters book so far and I wouldn't think it's possible to squeeze it into 90 minutes. Well, we'll see.

    I'm really looking forward to the new book, although there won't be any lesbians ;) Post-war gothic sounds definitely good.

    michellesandiego's picture

    Last night, I dreamt I went to Manderley again..

    Thank you for a wonderfull interview.

    I think I love you both.