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EW's sci-fi fans insist that "Buffy" is sci-fi!

Earlier this month, Entertainment Weekly published its list of the top 25 science fiction films and TV series, and then it invited readers to tell them which shows/movies they missed. Apparently EW received over 1,200 comments via email and online comments (you weighed in on your faves on AfterEllen.com, too), and in the June 1 issue of Entertainment Weekly the readers' top 10 omissions are listed (including Stargate, Dune, Farscape and Babylon 5), along with EW's explanations for why they weren't selected. Here are some highlights from the new list:

4. EW says The Fifth Element didn't make it because "in the end, it's a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing. A being of pure love is needed to save the universe? Come on." I gotta say, I kind of agree with EW. The movie, in my opinion, was really pretty and had lots of interesting ideas ... until the ending came and it all fizzled out on wave of ridiculousness. Besides, I think EW's readers mostly voted for The Fifth Element based on Milla Jovovich's unique Band-Aid costume:

5. Why did EW not include Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Well, "Buffy is a work of gothic fantasy, replete with demons and witches and mummies and werewolves and magically hot lesbians." I'm trying to find some way to disagree with EW here, or maybe just some excuse to repeat "magically hot lesbians," but I can't come up with anything. Hey, what about Season 4, when the Initiative was sorta sci-fi? Oh yeah, that season sucked.

6. EW admits that Gattaca is pretty good, and if the original list had room for one more it might have made it. I agree, if only because it stars Uma Thurman and two extremely lesbianish men, Ethan Hawke and Jude Law. So, so pretty.

7. Readers apparently believe that Dark City is better than The Matrix, but EW bows to an undeniable truth: "despite our love for Jennifer Connelly, Carrie-Anne Moss' swaggering latex cool had us at hello." Uh, yeah.

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  • jen1684's picture

    the 5th element

    Sooo, the fifth element is my favorite movie, so I felt like I HAD TO comment on this.. lol!

    The end is so not ridiculous!! I mean, ok, the aesthetic and the scene (and Bruce Willis's face) in the end might seem a little ridiculous... but beyond this quite maybe "funny" image, the message is great. It's perfect, it has a total meaning: hope. The movie is so beautiful, it's like a metaphore or something. The 5th element is here for peace, to make good on this earth. And then, she (it) sees how bad the world is because of what men did to it... and she's so sad, devastated, she doesn't understand why it became so bad, why there's so much hate. And when in the end, she finally decides to help to save this earth after all, it gives a big message of hope, like, "keep believing". So yeah, the end is great. :) Anyway, I don't like science fiction (except this movie), so I guess I don't really care it's not in the EW list... especially since, if you think about it, okay yes it's in the future, and kinda SF but it's not "that" SF... it's more like futurist. But it's this planet, and the same kind of things than now... It's not like another earth or anything..

    Anyway, the 5th element is GREAT!

    NorthernStar's picture

    Eye of the beholder

    BTVS and AtS were sci fi, but not "hard core" (space centric  / futuristic shows), but rather on the supernatural and occult side. Hey, the X Files had episodes not focusing on the major FBI/US gov/Alien conspiracy, just good ol' monsters and spooks, and it passes and sci fi!

    And what's wrong with Season four?

    every season has its stinkers, and S4 had quite a few (Superstar and Beer Bad come to mind), but also a few unforgettable moments, most notably Willow / Tara "I'm yours", "extra flamey" and "Tara is your GIRLFRIEND? bloody hell!"

    gooby's picture

    I must agree with jen1684.

    I must agree with jen1684. The Fifth Element is one of the best sci-fi movies EVER. If not THE best, it's right up there. It's funny, it's smart and come on, what sci-fi movie ISN'T cheesy and ridiculous to some extent? Star Wars, hello? I LOVE Star Wars, but that's a soap opera in space. The Fifth Element is definitely in my TOP 5 favorite sci-fi movies EVER.

    Mercy83's picture

    I Don't See

    Buffy The Vampire Slayer as Science Fiction - I see it more as fantasy. Science fiction to me, and many generations before me, is more Star Trek. If Buffy had the ability to teleport from place to place, then perhaps it would qualify as Science Fiction. Creating a robot here and there, bringing the occassional slayer back from the dead using Magic is NOT Science Fiction. In all honesty, it's probably more reality. There are places where such things are practised, are there not?
    captainmickey2's picture

    BTVS, not sci-fi

    Sorry, I have to say, Buffy is in no way sci-fi related. Science fiction is a literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background.

    Vampires, witches, demons, etc. don't really fall within that spectrum. And a random robot does not a science fiction show make.

    sapphicbeats's picture

    dark city was utter tripe.

    dark city was utter tripe. i have never understood the love for that film. could have been incredible if it weren't for the horrid editing and barely understandable strange accent that kiefer southerland chose.

    editing was done by hyperactive monkeys on crack, i swear. hate it.

    but yeah, definitely agree about the carrie-anne moss in latex factor of the matrix.  perhaps that sways me more than i would like to...nah...i will admit that, no problem.  :) 

    ff6fiend666's picture

    That list almost made my eye

    That list almost made my eye twitch every single time, seriously some of their choices, who in there right mind picks galaxy quest over say dune, sure it didn't capture the essence of the book but thurfur hawats eyebrows really should have reserved it a place on the list, plus where is the star wars seriously put the first three all together if you must. secondly I'm rather confused as to what macbeth has to do with the fifth element, there isn't even a lady macbethish character.
    SeaPesco's picture

    No seriously...

    The Fifth Element is pure genius. The scene in which she is learning everything and seeing all the evil in the world is so powerful. Perhaps the EW critics should think hard about the concept of love saving the world because, I know I'm no realist, but it seems like a pretty good theory to me.
    wickedgrrl's picture

    Sci-fi

    I found myself wikipedia-ing and dictionary.com-ing "sci-fi".  I agree that most of Buffy is not science fiction, its more fantasy/mythology.  However, the Initiative with behavioral modification chips, and Adam qualify in my opinion as sci-fi as well as the nerd trio, and perhaps Faith's body swap contraption .  Even some of the alternate dimensions could qualify depending on your take of some scientific theories. 
    glwtta's picture

    Meh

    I know reading these lists is pointless - it's always a mixture of indisputable classics from 20 years ago, the stuff that's most popular now, but will be forgotten in a year or two, and some completely random stuff thrown in just for poops and giggles ("Heroes" is about as much sci-fi as Harry Potter is).

    They do get some major points for including Blade Runner and Brazil, it's amazing how often those two get left out.

    But to have a list of 25 and not include freaking "Babylon 5"? That's just plain silly.

    Soccergirl1023's picture

    Hush Episode

    Ok i just wanted to comment on that episode..Hush..of Buffy...thats like my favorite episode ever!! and it gave me butterflies in my stomach as i saw it again as the two girls held hands...haha yea im a weirdo...

     ~Ceci

    maylith's picture

    BtVS and Hush

    That episode is still one of the best hours of television ever....42 minutes of airtime and over 30 without dialog really shows what kind of story telling is possible in the visual medium of television. Too many shows write their stories as if their audiences are stupid... but shows like Buffy and a few others never do that....

     

    Plus that moment the girls link hands, then snap their heads around to magically send the soda machine to block the door is almost an iconic lesbian image....Just that simple interlocking of fingers has so many levels.....Comfort from fear, of both the horror they are experiencing and the promise of something new and different. Tara's calming nod both reassures Willow that they can face the horror behind the door and that their potential relationship will succeed. Their combined magical movement of the vending machine shows they can work as a team and as a couple. At the end they both glance at their linked hands realizing that more than just magic happened..... so many different layers to 20 seconds of film with no dialog. That is what real acting and real writing can do without words and on this episode the cast did just that for almost the whole show.

    xenafan71's picture

    BTW

    Hush was nominated for an Emmy for "Best Writing".

    And maylith I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE about that moment :) 


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