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"Women Leaving Men for Other Women" on "The Oprah Winfrey Show"

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Karman Kregloe

Tyra Banks is not going to be happy about this.

Today on The Oprah Winfrey Show, Oprah discusses the topic of "Women Leaving Men for Other Women" and tries to understand the phenomenon of why so many women are "falling hard" for Work Out's Jackie Warner.

Jackie Warner and Rebecca Cardon on The Oprah Winfrey Show

Sound familiar? Yes, Tyra probably thinks so too.

Just a few weeks ago on The Tyra Banks Show, she wrestled with the very similar topic of "Straight Girls With Gay Crushes." In that episode, she followed a lesbian "pick-up artist" specializing in straight women, arranged for the awkward reunion of a lesbian and her straight former flame, and instigated the even more awkward first kiss between a lesbian and her smitten straight co-worker. (Tyra is apparently the self-appointed lesbian Puppet Master!)

Tyra also quizzed out trainer Jackie Warner about the vast number of heterosexual women who find her charms irresistible. Warner regaled the studio audience with tales of wanton straight women of leisure leaving dirty messages on her answering machine and hiring her for expensive training sessions in hopes of gaining some added "benefits."

So did Tyra really scoop Oprah?

In the episode, Oprah interviews women who've turned their previously heterosexual lives upside down after falling in love with other women. Among those she talks to is comedian Carol Leifer, a former writer on Seinfeld and co-executive producer on the CBS sitcom Rules of Engagement, and her partner, Lori Wolf.

Partners Lori Wolf and Carol Leifer

Warner appears on The Oprah Winfrey Show with Work Out co-star and her former paramour Rebecca Cardon, whom Oprah grills about her attraction to Warner. Perhaps Oprah never heard the rumor that the Jackie-Rebecca dalliance was purely a showmance.

(On a sidenote, if the showmance rumor is ever proven to be true, do you think Oprah will visit a molten wrath upon Warner and Cardon's heads as she did writer James Frey for the fabrications in his "memoir" A Million Little Pieces? That alone would be worth the price of admission, not to mention the price of enduring three seasons worth of sweat and vodka-soaked drama on Work Out.)

If the video preview is any indicator, it looks like Oprah's episode devoted to the subject might be a bit more substantive than Tyra's.


And if Oprah's booming voiceover is any indicator, it might be a scarier episode too.

"A house in the suburbs... a mom's secret exposed." Is this The Oprah Winfrey Show or Forensic Files?

Check your local listings for airtimes for The Oprah Winfrey Show. And for those of you stuck at work when the episode airs today, check out our blog post about the article "Why Women Are Leaving Men for Other Women" in the current edition of O Magazine.

While lesbianism obviously isn't a "trend," treating it as such on daytime television seems to be trendy indeed. Will you watch Oprah today to see how she handles the topic?

(Check back for our review of the episode this Friday in B.L.W.E.)

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    • Submitted by
    Karman Kregloe
    on March 25, 2009 - 10:00am.
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    wyle e coyote's picture

    Not from Tyra

    Submitted by
    wyle e coyote (93 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 10:59am.

    Actually, Oprah is not stealing from Tyra, she's stealing from herself.  This new episode of Oprah is a repeat of an episode she did a couple years back about "Gay Wives"--married women who leave their hetero-marriage for another woman.  I don't remember what year exactly, but all I remember is that one of the "gay wives" was pretty cute.   

    "Every time two lesbians kiss, an angel gets its wings." --Roseanne

    tellofilms 's picture

    totally true

    Submitted by
    tellofilms (136 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 11:07am.

    I remember that episode as well- I believe it was like 2 years-ish ago.  This is not a new topic for Oprah and I'm sure the episode topics happen well in advance so must have just been coincidence.

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    empiremunchies's picture

    I think I saw that

    Submitted by
    empiremunchies (56 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 3:12pm.
    I think I saw that episode....Wasn't there a situation where the wife left her husband for another woman and then a month or so later the husband said he was gay too??...Im watching the cuurent episode now and in the beginning they showed a short clip of the original episode.
    monica_ca's picture

    2006 Episode of Oprah

    Submitted by
    monica_ca (659 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 4:31pm.

    http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2009/03/video-the-real-housewives-o...

    At the bottom of this link they reference the show that you're talking about (it was from 2006 apparently). 

    tau's picture

    oprah's first time

    Submitted by
    tau (3 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 5:42pm.

    there are like 5 different parts to this video. but the first link is here. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhdjEXb3Bt4&feature=related

    Michie87's picture

    wow wow wow!!- What is it

    Submitted by
    Michie87 (617 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 11:01am.

    wow wow wow!!- What is it with this kind of shows airing a lot of lesbian stuff?, Do they want more viewers or what? xD.I guess is good to have 'our lives' shown on TV only if its going to be productive though, not little show stints like the one Trya did, and now Oprah? The preview looks good,and I got to admit that Oprah is more indepth say about the topic discussed on her show. Im not a huge <i>O</i>  fan but I will check it out and see what happens -if I have the time!-. Ill defintely be coming back for the review! 

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    nicole eggett's picture

    yep

    Submitted by
    nicole eggett (136 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 11:34am.
    i watch ellen during that time but i am defiantly going to be switching cahannels during commercial breaks
    m.leigh's picture

    is it a trend?

    Submitted by
    m.leigh (14 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 11:50am.
    More magazine had an article on the same topic last month. I wonder if pop culture is helping women to feel more comfortable coming out and if so, it could be a bit of a real-life trend.
    littlenikki15's picture

    Oprah's getting closer & closer to coming out lol

    Submitted by
    littlenikki15 (14 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 12:01pm.

    Man, these shows really know how to boost someone's ego don't they? lol Jackie is going to think she is the complete shit after all of these shows lol   But I guess it is true, a lot of girls are crazy about her. 

    *in your eyes, i see thing i know i cannot touch*

    Explorergal's picture

    Come out come out....

    Submitted by
    Explorergal (531 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 12:08pm.

     

    Bingo littlenikki!

     

    Heather Ann's picture

    Seriously...

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    Heather Ann (2 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 12:23pm.

    I dont understand why people are acting like this is suddenly a new "trend". It's like they woke up one day and were like "omg, I JUST noticed that women are dating other women!" I mean I am happy that the rest of the world is finding out that we are just normal people who live normal lives and the only differance is that we love some one of the same gender. I know people like my grandma who believe that "gays" have an evil spirit around them and are here to turn everyone their way. (she's having a very tough time dealing with my coming out last month to her.) She watches Oprah and maybe she'll change her mind =/

     

     

    Brutal_Romance's picture

    Good God

    Submitted by
    Brutal_Romance (382 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 12:39pm.
    the commentary really scared me, I woudnt want to be one of those women Oprah is grilling. but atleast, she'll give us some visibilty to the older generation who would never accept us and believe in Oprah and her crap like some cult followers.
    jordan-writes's picture

    Psh

    Submitted by
    jordan-writes (240 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 2:32pm.

    Psh I met Jackie Warner in person over the summer and was very capable of resisting her. In fact it didn't take any resisting at all. Now her on the other hand, it was hard keeping her off of me. I was like come on now Jackie, I know I'm cool, but I only came up here to see you because my friends grandma likes your show.

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    sloane's picture

    the name of this show

    Submitted by
    sloane (255 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 2:49pm.

    the name of this show should be "WHY IS JACKIE WARNER: LESBIAN ASSHOLE WHO THINKS SHE'S GODS GIFT TO WOMEN." i mean just how many shows is she going to go on bragging about how many people are attracted to her? that's right, i said people, because straight women aren't some rarified commodity, they're just people. and jackie warner sounds like an ass.

    InaccuratelyNamed's picture

    Love it.

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    InaccuratelyNamed (121 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 3:18pm.

    I'm on board with the new title.  I haven't watched Work Out much, so I guess I'm not entitled to have a strong opinion about Jackie, but I haven't been impressed with what little I have seen of her.  She seems super cocky, which is so annoying.  I can't stand those lesbians that are so full of themselves and think they can get any woman - straight or gay.  It's an accomplishment for them.  They're worse than straight guys.

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    sabletruth's picture

    I agree 100%.  I mean

    Submitted by
    sabletruth (1 post)
    on March 25, 2009 - 6:34pm.
    I agree 100%.  I mean seriously Jackie...?  And Rebecca have so self-respect- Jackie does not need another ounce of ego boost, she does a great job of doing it on her own!
    SaturnaliaGirl's picture

    I So Agree as well: Jackie=yuck!

    Submitted by
    SaturnaliaGirl (51 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 8:54pm.

    I can't stand her and think she's rather unattractive, like really not good looking at all (I'd use other words, but I'm trying not to be too mean, lol), but the worst of all is her being so arrogant as to believe women are falling all over her...seriously? Where? Haven't seen any of those...swooning for portia's lovely face, yes; adoring tina fey's awsomeness, yes; strangling a mountain ox at the sight of Olivia Wilde, hell yeah! but Jackie 'he man look-alike' Warner.....puuuuulleeeeeezzzzz, give me a break. She needs to come down from her cloud of self-deception and buy a mirror while she's at it....

     

    ramona000's picture

    Jackie Warner is so not all that

    Submitted by
    ramona000 (3 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 10:04pm.
    Blech!  i do not understand what the appeal of Jackie Warner is....she is so arrogant and not that smart but she pretends like she is really insightful.  Don't get me wrong - I watch her ridiculous show because how can you not watch a reality show about lesbian personal trainers?  I mean, she has nice abs, I will admit. But her personality is so fake LA but the fact is she cannot escape that she is from Ohio.  Not cool at all.  And I really don't think she's attractive.  So, what's the deal? Why do all these straight women love her?
    rnbwmommy's picture

    i never liked jackie

    Submitted by
    rnbwmommy (14 posts)
    on March 26, 2009 - 4:04pm.

    she is definitely an ass. i started watching her show because "hey, it's a lesbian on tv". but got tired of her drama so quickly i dropped it.

     

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    Kathrine's picture

    I just followed your link to

    Submitted by
    Kathrine (19 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 3:21pm.
    I just followed your link to ANTM and one thing just hit me. Those recaps with Jill, Dara and you were so so funny. Why don't you do something again with jill? You have never been better than at that time.
    Sparkfire's picture

    Best part about the episode...

    Submitted by
    Sparkfire (54 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 4:26pm.

    Their expert on sexual fluidity was named Lucy Diamond.  As in the lesbian villain from "D.E.B.S.".  I nearly did a spit take when I heard that! 

    Nobody objects to a woman being a good writer or sculptor or geneticist if at the same time she manages to be a good wife, good mother, good-looking, good-tempered, well-groomed, and unaggressive. - Leslie M. McIntyre

    DblAgent M's picture

    me too!

    Submitted by
    DblAgent M (109 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 5:17pm.
    I had the same reaction, until I realized that her name is actually Lisa Diamond, not Lucy.  Whatev....close enough, right? hee-hee :-D
    Erika's picture

    Oh, Oprah

    Submitted by
    Erika (56 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 9:07pm.

    When the show started with Warner, who I have no problem admitting my crush, I was really annoyed and thought the whole show would be dedicated to women who love Jackie Warner.  Thankfully, It wasn't and I didn't have a problem with the show, really?  I mean, there were parts that were a little bit awkward-"So, are you gay?" to every woman who'd left their husbands.  For the most part,I think she did a good job of letting her guests speak-which Tyra never does.

    The O Magazine article was a bit more annoying-Fashionable Lesbianism and there was a sentace about choicing your sextual orientation that was a bit bothersome.  I will say, I'm looking forward to seeing Ellen's Face on an O cover in the future!

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    blair10014's picture

    I watched about half of this

    Submitted by
    blair10014 (26 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 9:19pm.
    I watched about half of this episode today before literally falling asleep but thought the half I did see was pretty ridiculous. First of all, Oprah, you really need to work on your tact. Secondly, acting like you had no idea about sexual fluidity makes you seem really uninformed, especially considering the resources your disposal. Sometimes I feel like Oprah feels the need to scandalize topics like this to relate to her less than informed viewers. You weren't fooling anyone asking innocently what the Kinsey scale was. Let's try to keep it [something resembling] real. 
    Erika's picture

    good point

    Submitted by
    Erika (56 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 9:32pm.

    it's hard for me to not love Oprah though you make a good point

    OhioLezGirlinNYC

    http://oh-iolez-girlinnyc.blogspot.com/

    jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

    O, No

    Submitted by
    jennifer from p... (1430 posts)
    on March 25, 2009 - 10:16pm.
    Nope, didn't watch. First off, I'm not giving up Judge Judy (the shows air at the same time in my area) for O. Second, I can't stand how Oprah conducts the show any longer. She behaves like a sponge, though not like Spongebob, per se, who is there to absorb everything, but then have all of the info squeezed out so that if the topic comes up again, she can begin the process anew without seeming disingenuous. It's ridiculous and idiotic, and more than a little insulting.
    blair10014's picture

    judge judy

    Submitted by
    blair10014 (26 posts)
    on March 26, 2009 - 2:18am.
    something to make you love her even more...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAOGOhUMj9M
    ice cream's picture

    Not an Oprah Fan

    Submitted by
    ice cream (not verified)
    on March 25, 2009 - 11:22pm.

    I bet Oprah woke up one day and said to herself, "There's a such thing a lesbians! I saw it on television. And ratings went up. But maybe I should logically...RATINGS! (insert Oprah hallelujah yell here)"

    It was her Aha Moment.  

    Thane McAllister's picture

    I disagree

    Submitted by
    Thane McAllister (142 posts)
    on March 26, 2009 - 8:10am.

    oprah is fukkin gay! she was probably having a wet dream about gail and decided to do a show about lesbians. lol. she's done a million shows about gay people (most of which were about lesbians specifically). she's probably reading this post right now...

     

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    rnbwmommy's picture

    I don't mean to nitpick but...

    Submitted by
    rnbwmommy (14 posts)
    on March 26, 2009 - 4:08pm.

    i saw this show as yet another missed opportunity to show that there are actually black gays. i love oprah and all but i find it impossible to believe that she couldnt' find a single black guest. i would really like to get in the conversation and get some visibility for us. prop 8 brought to light that people really don't see black gays. and i think that should change.

     

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    Khia's picture

    Jackie needs to be pimp

    Submitted by
    Khia (31 posts)
    on March 27, 2009 - 1:48am.
    Jackie needs to be pimp slapped and my pimp hand is skrong.

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