Linsday Lohan and Samantha Ronson's break up has the media talking about lesbian relationships

You know, normally I don't give a flying sh*t about celebrity breakups ... their relationships bore the crud out of me ... why on earth would I want to learn about the private lives of people who have no reasons to be known on a large scale such as intelligence, accomplishment, athleticism, etc?

However, I'm depressingly resigned to what's going to happen when/if Lohan starts dating again, and if it's a guy ... because, you just know this'll be taken by the wider society as obvious evidence that a) femme women can't be gay, b) that women that date each other will always end up going back to men, and c) that any woman professing being gay really just needs a straight guy to try harder to get a date.

Not that I expect Lohan to take responsibility in her dating life for such crap that'll be talked about, because she shouldn't ... but I can almost predict the way this is going to be handled by the press and wider society.

*sigh* 

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I don't think there's a big difference between "gay" break ups and "straight" break ups.  I do know for me breaking up with the first girl I dated was the most painful one I've ever been through though not the most dramatic.  

I just wish Lohan would get her life together and make another great movie.  Every time I hear another crazy story about her it makes me sad.  But in her defense it would suck to break up in public and we all need to remember she's only what 22? 23?She's young and dealing with so much....And I always say you get one relationship where you get to go a little nutterz  But only one.  Hell, I had a straight friend get a job where her ex worked and practically stalked him..... 

I wish you would have left it there. 

i think the freakin papparazzi makes it dramatic.

they broke up, period.

everything that the media is saying is all bullsh!t.

The question of whether lesbian relationships -- and ensuing break-ups --  are more drama-filled is a good one.  I've wondered that as well.

However, we often fail to see the forest for the trees:  -- ONE thing we know is that a straight woman is exponentially more likely to be murdered by a enraged and crazed ex-lover than a lesbian is.

So -- it all depends on how you define drama, I would think.

A bit OT, I think right now I just want to send out to Ms Lohan, who truly is a media punching bag, my condolences on the end of what was likely her first very serious love relationship.

If she can stay sane and sober (both of which are a challenge), I'm sure she will know great love again. However:

If I had had to spend the end of my teens and my early 20's in full view of the public, AND if I had also had crazy parents to contend with, not to mention a host of adults who were trying to get rich off of me, I would either be dead now or locked in a loony bin.

Lindsay Lohan, if nothing else, is tremendously talented, and apparently has worked diligently to become politically aware/active and a responsible member of society. I just saw the news about Stevie Nicks saying Lohan could do an homage to her work "over my dead body" and I thought, jeez, can this girl never catch a break?

I'm sending Lindsay Lohan good wishes for comfort and succor and strength.

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...is this post?! Sorry, but i think that's the worst piece I've ever read on AE.

"While we generally leave the Lohan/Samantha Ronson beat to the celebrity blogs and tabloids, the demise of their relationship has certainly been noteworthy, if not for the sake of storytelling, but for some insight into how the world at large views lesbian breakups."

You really see this as a insight how the world sees lesbian breakups?! That's... um, paranoiac. And the oh-so-heartbroken-and-followed-by-the paparazzi Lindsay? Well, she didn't seem to mind the tabloid attention when she was IN the relationship.

And what's with all the side picking?! You have inside information that you didn't share or is this coming from intensive tabloid research?

Tabloids are jumping on this because Lindsay Lohan is acting crazy. Just like they did when straight Britney Spears went crazy after her breakup. Yeah, maybe the lesbian fact spicies it up a bit... but that's totally understandable... is it not?!

"But you know you have heard it before: “Oh man, I cant imagine dating another woman, there would be sooo much drama,” your straight female coworker says. Even your lesbian friends embrace the term “lesbian drama” with a laugh. But are lesbian breakups really more dramatic?"

Yes, they are. Of course and as always, you can never say this things in general (please, I know there are a lot of people, gays and straights, who can manage a non-dramatic breakup).And "lesbian drama" is a term that has a total right to exist... as we all (and here I think I can speak in general) experienced some lesbian drama in our "lesbian lifetime". Some more, some less. But most of us who spent some years in the lesbian scenes of bigger cities would agree that there is way more drama going on compared to the lifes of straight friends. Just watch "The L-Word"... yeah, I know it's a TV-Show and it's exaggerating. But give me ONE lesbian who couldn't relate herself to at least one L-Word drama. Come on.

Most times there simply is more drama. And I have many guesses why this is so. And one of them totally is that two women are involved. Like it or not, most of us tend to be more dramatic then men.

Let's all embrace our inner female drama!

I’m still trying to figure out what crime Lindsay Lohan has committed in the last year to invoke such vitriolic hatred from not only the‘straight’ press but from the gay media as well.

Let’s see, she successfully completed rehab (after a couple of tries I know, but that’s just par for the course) and distanced herself from a father who has been a destructive figure her entire life.

Oh yeah, plus she came out….at 22 no less, a move that was certainly extremely difficult and one that, considering her sex symbol image, would be damaging to her career.

Since coming out she has never once denied that aspect of her sexuality and even through a painful breakup has never downplayed the significance of this relationship in her life.  It seems the only crime she has committed through all of this is that of wearing her heart on her sleeve.

I have been consistently stunned at the inability of the LGBT press to understand the importance of such a high profile coming out of someone her age, and the precedent it has set.  Instead, we watch while the kids swarm in the schoolyard and occasionally we get a few kicks in as well.  Nicely done.

Yes break-ups aren't really pleasant and like a calm ocean, but.. I feel that when it comes to women the media tend to write about it little more, and little more intense, and adding a little more drama to the soop. As always. (Even without break-up as subject I feel that women are more targeted as media front figures..)

I didn't break up with a girl cause I have not been with one, but .. sort of dating one, and it was a bit of drama. So was it also with the guys I've dated. So.. But yes, I am aware of the myth that lesbian break-ups are dramatic. A myth from TV.

Granted when this first broke out into the media I was glad that the queer world was getting some face time. Everything "different" has spent the last century or so being shoved under a rug and not talked about.

Granted I don't have a real opinion about Linsday Lohan.

Granted I'm glad she can finally come out. It took alot of courage coming out in her position.

BUT. This just shows how ridiculously stupid society STILL is."“You've likely gathered from the recent reports of rabid catfights, changed locks and restraining orders: Somewhere in the world, a lesbian couple has just broken up,” Clark-Flory writes." Wow. In a strange, sad, demented way I wish lesbian culture could stay in its own little shell not being disturbed by the obviously bias majority. It just shows how un-ready the world, really, is.

God. I just realized how incredibly sad this makes me.

I don't know what to think. It's too bad they broke up I guess. I'm not a fan of Lindsay so I could really care less.  

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A relationship I've been following purposefully, due to the fact I don't read tabloids or follow any celebrity relationships, but it seems to me that we ought to just leave it alone. We can complain about the media all we like, it's just fueling the fire.

Break ups suck for men and women, gay and straight and otherwise, equally and no amount of media hyperbole can change that.

Okay, I currently live on the lgbt floor and while lesbians tend to react to break ups normally (confused, angry, sad), It's def the gay men who take the cake with drawn out, dramatic break ups. It really does depend on the couple though.

I broke up with my girlfriend a year ago and it really sucks!  Based on experience, believe me, lots of people feast on this tragic event of my life. I pitty Lindsay.  It gives her twice the burden since she's a public figure.  Plus the fact that people would start to wait "who" will be her next (boy or girl).  Well, i just hope for her happiness.

And if Gay find a girl who not look Like a Boy

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Im with all of you hoping she doesnt go with a man, but LiLo is good at being unpredictable, plus shes got negative points on her side now...who would want to date her? o_O A Mormon priest? O_o You know what I mean?

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Her breakup seems pretty much L-word like. Especially Tibette. Think of it: Friends taking sides (sided with Tina) the only supportive one for Bette remains the sister. Lots of screaming and drunkedness.

Point is, she's only 22. Literally a kid in my eyes. When your every move is monitored, your breakdown and devastation will be out for everyone to see. Unfortunately. Lindsay is also used to living out her ever move in the press, so she doesn't care (that's how she came out also - lets kiss in public!).

Oh, I find it that gay men (the gossip "queens") are especially against Lindsay and Samantha. Don't understand why.  They're really mean.

While I wouldn't say women are "more emotional" then men (in the sense that we have more emotions), I would say that it's more acceptable for women to outwardly express their emotions than men (who are taught to internalize their feelings).  So in your typical straight relationship it's more expected that the woman be the one to get "emotional" during a time of distress (such as a breakup) with the crying, shouting, drinking and such.  With twice as many women in a relationship, it would make sense that there would be twice the "drama" (crying, shouting, drinking etc.)

So, yes, I suppose generally speaking you could say lesbian breakups would be more dramatic.

I don't think the drama is proportional to the number of women part of the couple. And it is hard to make any reference to experience, because evey story and every person is so different. But breaking up is awful and being ditched when you're in love is even worse. Can't imagine how it is to suffer it in the public eye.

As many other, I wish all the best to Lindsay Lohan: whomever will be good for her is her own business. (Without preassures or comment from the media, which are surely waiting for her to "go back to being straight".)

end of every relationship that didnt work.. just like LiLo and Sam.. break up is worst than it sounds so its not really a wonder if its dramatic.. gay or not, people goes through the same process.. hurting.. getting over.. moving on.. starting over..

Good luck LiLo.. :)

I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE JUST STARTED TO GET A LITTLE SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD THEN 1 VERY CONFUSED LITTLE GIRL AND HER PROBLEM HAS THE WORLD TALKIN ABOUT ALL THE GAY PEOPLE THAT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US WHO  DO ALL WE CAN TO LET THE WORLD KNOW THAT  SAME SEX  RELATIONSHIPS ARE JUST AS INPORTANT AND THE STRIGHT PEOPLES!!!!!!

wasn't just a matter of time.

I didn't follow the relationship more than the unavoidable headlines here and there, but I thought it had experiment and limelight written all over it...

Also, maybe "Sam" just got tired of having her identity like velcro to LL, because I can't say I've ever seen this woman's whole name in a headline until this article!

that media loves to follow around immature, emotional young girls (britney, lindsay, paris), of course the break up of one of their tabloid favs would be full of made-up drama and lame, overblown storylines.

i don't think it's a lesbian thing as much as a tabloid-girl, "trainwreck" thing.

plus, i thought it was a "break"?

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only thing I thought when I saw this was how when you love someone who was your friend first and saw you through all that nitty gritty stuff friends do for you when life gets messy, and you wake up in a mess and you're twice as alone. i think that runs the gauntlet of either orientation.