Rosie thinks Oprah and Gayle are living like loversIt's not a new rumor that Oprah and her BFF/editor-at-large of O Magazine Gayle King are lesbian lovers. In fact, they've even been asked point blank many times over the years and have always had the same answers: "Of course not" and "If we were, we'd tell you."
This week's resurrection of the lingering rumor is thanks to Rosie O'Donnell, who made some
Sure, Rosie. Because two women are close, they must be gay. While I would love to have even more people on our team, it's just not so. But even Oprah herself has been way more understanding of these accusations. In 2006, the big O said: I understand why people think we're gay. There isn't a definition in our culture for this kind of bond between women. So I get why people have to label it - how can you be this close without it being sexual? I know! I know! You're, uh, straight! Am I right? Did I win a car?
Despite the ridiculousness of this undying rumor, Access Hollywood asked King about Rosie's comments (that she wasn't aware of) this week at Glamor Women of the Years Awards in New York City and she was, yet again, very honest, saying: The thing [is], if we were gay, we would tell you. We would so tell you. We wouldn’t try to keep that a secret because there’s nothing wrong with being gay. So if we were, we would tell you. The truth of the matter is we’re not. It’s hard enough for me to get a date on a Saturday night as it is. This isn’t a rumor I’m trying to continue to explore, but no there’s nothing, there’s nothing wrong with it. Oprah, who is always very candid about her life, including her childhood abuse, is one of the last celebrities who would keep any kind of secret, especially one that it doesn't seem she'd be ashamed of in the least. We saw her on Monday with Ellen and Portia: She's obviously a gay advocate, has gay friends, touches on and supports gay issues. The fact that she never married her longtime partner Stedman Graham or that she holds hands with her unmarried but obviously straight friend at WNBA games or cuddles with her while watching The L Word on DVD does not, I repeat not make her gay. (Just kidding — I have no proof that they've ever been to a WNBA game.)
Anyway, what does any of this matter? She's Oprah. The one woman in the world who could do just about anything and we'd love her even more for it. Now how about that car? Submitted by on November 12, 2009 - 11:00am. |
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They're just...
Oprayle!
JUST BECAUSE THEY CUDDLE WHILE WATCHING THE L WORD, DOES NOT MAKE THEM GAY! I loved it, made me LMFAO hehehehe.
Yeah I know they're not gay, but one can always hope!
SdQ Out!
Ditto!
Female Friendship
Female friendship is a beautiful thing. I am a lesbian and I have had a best friend for over a decade, who I am sure many who have scene us through the years would have thought we were a couple, but never have been. It is so very possible to be that close and that connected without it being sexual, that is the beauty about women, we can connect on such a deep and intimate level that is so far from sexual. My best friend is in fact straight. She is now married to a man, and I to a woman, and we still have that deep bond. We live in different cities, and dont get to talk nearly as much now as we would like to and yet we still have that bond that will forever be there.
People always assume unmarried woman of a certain age.. hmm she must be gay, and I think that is just not fair.
PS:: Ellen on Oprah was so amazing, and her Portia so friggin cute I cried. love them.
PSS:: Plus if Oprah were gay Ellen would no longer get the title of most famous lesbian in the world.. and how sucky would be that be. :)
I don't think so...
"Sure, Rosie. Because two
"Sure, Rosie. Because two women are close, they must be gay. While I would love to have even more people on our team, it's just not so."
Oprah and Gayle, even as cool and supportive as they are about the gay community, wouldnt come out publicly because of the repercussions. It would absolutely not surprise me if Oprah were gay.
I dont know if it was just me, but I thought it was quite interesting that Gayle was there at Ellen's photoshoot early in the morning. I mean, they do everything together. It doesnt make them gay, but gay rumors that are this persistent over time usually end up being true. Just look at Rosie, she denied it for years. She probably knows more about it than we do.
Rosie should respect Oprah either way
I was also mildly amused that Gayle was at the photoshoot, and that Ellen is on close enough terms with her to simply say "hi Gayle". Doesn't mean Oprah and Gayle are sleeping together, though.
In fact, I actually think they'd be more careful about how it looks if they actually were sleeping together. They'd be more paranoid. I had no idea who Kelli O'Donnell (what was her maiden name? forget now) was before Rosie came out. They didn't go everywhere together. And I agree with you that it's easy to say "I support gay people" and harder to come out, and I wouldn't be surprised if Oprah was closeted.
I do think Rosie needs to not be an ass about it either way, for the exact reason that she denied it for years too. She needs to respect that even if they are together and Oprah is not straight, that she might not be ready to be out about it. She should take a look back at how she felt when people suggested she was gay when she was closeted, and give Oprah a break.
Carpenter,
I don't think that if Oprah was gay-bi she would say it!
I don't believe it. But that she has special relationships with some women, I'm prepared to accept that. That makes sense. asexual love. Why not? But btwn you and me, a bit boring. There's gotta have a little attraction even if you decide to not act on it. Maybe that's exactly what they are.
English culture is basically homosexual in the sense that what the men really care about is the other men. Germaine Greer
rosie, enough.
I don't think it's any of Rosie's effin business....
Or anyone else for that matter.
Look in the friggin mirror, dude.
Oh Rosie...
If this was...
Rosie... Really? Rosie?!
Rosie annoys the ---- outa me. Not only did she spend ages insisting she had a roommate (I'm sorry I know rents are high in NYC but when you have an internationally syndicated talk show, you probably don't need someone to split the rent) but she outright denied she was gay before she came out.
And then I pity her, because if she thinks that a lesbian relationship is basically a BFF thing? She's missing out on something...
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To be fair to Rosie
She annoys me too!
Gay, Straight, Anybody.... people don't care to hear Rosie's opinions on others love lives or friendships!!! She shouldn't compare a BFF to a "a couple". She did say that she thinks they're a couple... a couple of what? Non sexin lovers!
I'm just saying
It doesn't hurt to give it a go. Gayle could be her soul mate in every way and they just haven't had the right motivation to take it to the next level.
They may not be gay but it doesn't hurt to try.
But they have been together for a while. I'm guessing there was at least one instance of a "ok let's kiss and see what happens" and nothing happened.
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I think Rosie was out of
I think Rosie was out of bounds making a statement like that. Celebrities have the right to keep their private lifes, PRIVATE. Outing someone just to get some attention from the public is wrong and pitiful as well. Rosie is just too desperate, and misses the limelight.
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oh rosie
no kidding, lol
This Is Still Going On??
Wow!!
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We black woman?
Not everyone is crazy about Oprah. I think if she's gay she should say it aloud. And then see what happens... Popularity will go down..... Insults in the forums ans chats.
See what they say about Rosie and even Ellen on Twitter...
English culture is basically homosexual in the sense that what the men really care about is the other men. Germaine Greer
I wish...
I wish Oprah was gay. Our stock, so to speak, would rise exponentially.
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I absolutely do not like
I absolutely do not like Rosie. Just because two women are as close as sisters are does not make them gay. Sheesh.
"Shit Mrs. Mary I ain't the only one that don't got no root."
Oprah
I really hate responding to this as I hate speculating over celebs sexuality and I wish we wouldnt do it here on these blogs, nonetheless, I never got the gay vibe at all from Oprah and Gayle. I think they are just simply very good friends who may be "soul mates" but nothing sexual. They are self described as each others BFF. I dont know why people need to sexualize every relationship. I find it really weird that Rosie was telling all to Howard Stern of all people. I dont know what she was thinking. I also agree with what some people have said: if you are past a certain age (30s.40s) and not married everyone assumes you are gay or deformed in some way. I dont get it.
SGALGG?
Call me unpolitically correct
but I'm curious of celebs' sexuality. I think they would do a world of good by telling the truth. Bisexuals included. And the more powerful they are, the more interesting they are.
Furthermore, hey, black people can be gay too, you know? There's no SHAME in it.
Amen
Amen... I'm in an interracial, binational, lesbian relationship. If that don't beat all, I don't know what does.
But you're right... there is a lot of condemnation in the black community over homosexuality. Ever hear of the D/L?
Rosie, don't bite the straights that love us
Sometimes I'm surprised that straight LGBT supportive celebs (and non-celebs) who are perpetual targets of "are they or aren't they?" don't get a little pissed at the constant (and VERY public) speculation about their sexuality -- and "dump" us.
Seriously, we've got non-gays who support LGBT rights and causes in both word and deed, helping increase POSITIVE visibility about us, educate people and shed light on issues that affect us. Then queers like Rosie (and Perez, to name a couple) go after our supporters and basically attack them.
I've never ever thought O&G were anything more than the world's most well-known BFFs.
It's def not a bad thing to have straight allies in a not always LGBT tolerant world -- I don't think possibly alienating them is such a good idea.
Rosie, STOP being such a damn bully.
Now on your knees and take it...
How colonized can you be? Why do you need so much the straights' approval? There is a limit to assimilation.
But you're right, Rosie's tough, even though I sometimes suspect that she's not even a lesbian after all... LOL... Anyway, she's freewheeling.
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English culture is basically homosexual in the sense that what the men really care about is the other men. Germaine Greer
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I Got Reminded Of This Lame Rumor Because...
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Photo shoot
I wondered why Gayle was at the photo shoot too, but then I remembered that she is the editor at O Mag. It makes sense she would be there.
Anyone that asks Ellen and
Anyone that asks Ellen and Portia if they indeed call eachother "wife" can't be gay! That was a stupid question that a lesbian would never ask!
To be fair, she was probably
To be fair, she was probably asking for the benefit of her audience. Talk show hosts don't ask their guests questions for their own personal benefit, it's to inform the audience. And if you were a closeted lesbian you probably would ask that to avoid looking like you know everything.
Still, I'm not saying she's gay.
Um, hello, Rosie?
I would so love that!
From what I see on her
From what I see on her show.. I BELIEVE that they are only best friends. I don't really care if they aren't.
As for Rosie.. I don't know why people are hard on her.. this woman is clinically depressed.. she must be on medication.. she is an orphan.. she has a big heart and a giving nature just like Oprah.
And she is entitled to say what she wants just like the rest of us.
I like Rosie -though she loves Tom Cruise- and think she is brave.
"Only a fool speculates about the life of a woman!"
I REALLY dislike Rosie
Annoying.
And I couldn't care less if Oprah is gay or bi or whatever.
I'm not sure if they are
I'm not sure if they are together... but of course Oprah is gay!
All the people born on my birthday are gay... or could pass... Heather Graham, Sara Gilbert, Adam Lambert... um... Andrew Keegan, Tom Selleck.
I do think she should be left alone. It's like's she's Oprah though, she's beyond sexuality, or even gender. It's like she's a god, and these are simple human characteristics.
So I'm Wondering
Have those of you who insist that Oprah and Gayle are closeted lovers never had a deep bond with anyone that wasn't sexual? Really? You can't imagine two women loving each other without sex being a part of the relationship? You know one of the old stereotypes about gay men and lesbians used to be that they only think about sex, and can't experience love. When you say stuff like this you're just reinforcing the stereotype.
According to the myth that keeps popping up on this, that two women who are middle-aged and not married to men must be secret lovers, would make the majority of African American women gay. That would make some aspects of my life easier, but it just isn't true. There are closeted lesbian women in power, but Oprah and Gayle are not it. I'm sorry, but Oprah likes men way too much for that to be true.
On another note what is it that makes it so hard for some of us to view the bond between women of varying sexual orientations as something to be villified. Because the rumor is not trying to show this deep bond as a good thing. Just the opposite. God forbid two African American women love each other at all, respect and appreciate each other's existence on this earth, be there for each other through thick and thin. No we just can't have that without wanting to tear it down. The hostility directed at them says a whole lot more about the character of the people spreading the hate, than it ever will about either of them.
If you want your own sexual orientation to be respected in this society, than try respecting the sexual orientation of others, especially when they are supportive of yours.
Bad choice of words...
In this and the other post. I don't f**cking care about Oprah, but I do care about the idea that even suggesting someone is gay is "tearing the person down," "villifying" them or being "disrespectful."
"We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln
It was the right choice of words
In my humble opinion, in
In my humble opinion, in regard to whether Oprah and Gayle are lovers, while Gayle may think there is nothing wrong with it, I think that hell would freeze over before Oprah would do one thing that might diminish the huge fiefdom she's got going, with herself as the revered Goddess. She hasn't been "every woman" in a VERY long time, and now she feels she must tell her adoring legions what to think, what to feel, what to read, what to buy, how to live, as she rakes in the dough. She isn't gonna rock that boat.
I think that best friends usually share parts of each other's lives, also having lives and families of their own, and then there are partners, sexual or otherwise, who share everything in their lives. Gayle seems to fall squarely into the second category. I do not see any room for either of them to be married. I don't know why Oprah does nothing but talk about Gayle and then wonder why people suspect they might be lesbian. "if it walks like a duck?"
I also think it's amusing that people think they know what O and G are or aren't doing.
attention
She's just trying to deviate the attention from her own personal issues, and trying to "fit" in with Howard Stern, that till not so long ago did not like her.. as said by Rosie herself at the Jimmy Fallon. I think it is crazy to think that if 2 women are very close that means it is sexual. And anyway who cares if Oprah is gay or whatever... she is a gay advocate and that is what really matters plus she's an amazing human being. By the way, that question about Ellen and Portia calling each other "wife" come on....sort of un-gay pff :)
"Were I receptive to such proposition, it would first require a full booty check, and if you were to pass muster, baby I'd give it to you family style"-Peggy Peabody
My closest relationships have been with straight women.
HOLD up
Rosie is a bit delusional...
ha!