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Misogyny in the moviesIt's hardly a news flash that misogyny is as American as, well, American Pie. Still, it's refreshing to stumble across a rant from a like-minded film fan to reassure myself that I'm not the only one who didn't find Knocked Up charming and funny. Or cry a little when Jack Black hooked up with Kate Winslet in The Holiday. Or, heaven forbid, see myself on-screen in Renée Zellweger's boy-crazy, insecure Bridget Jones.
And so I bring you highlights from a piece over at Radaronline.com, aptly entitled “No Country for Fat Chicks,” a snarky roundup of some of the most misogynist movies of the past decade. I'm just listing the past two years here, but here's the rest of the article for your entertainment. The 2007 prize for sexism goes to Superbad.
Here's Radar's reasoning: “Seth is not cute. His cluelessness is not charming. He's a cretin. And the worst kind of cretin: a cretin who is afraid of vaginas.” It begs to be said: That is just super bad. A runner-up for 2007 was Hostel: Part II.
The author thanks Eli Roth “for giving us naked Heather Matarazzo strung up by an evil woman who slits her captive's throat and then rubs the blood on her tits. Sisterhood is powerful.” Unfortunately, so are evil lesbianish stereotypes. Another gem from 2007: Shoot 'Em Up.
In this one, Monica Bellucci is both the Madonna and the whore. In the scene where she gives birth, Clive Owen shoots off the baby's umbilical cord, spraying her face with blood. The winner of 2006 was The Devil Wears Prada.
This one took honors for Stanley Tucci's treatment of Anne Hathaway, and for spawning a thousand reflections by male writers about one-dimensional bitchy bosses on film. 2006 Runner-Up: John Tucker Must Die.
This one I haven't heard of, even though it co-stars Ashanti, but it doesn't sound like I missed out. The plot has three teenage girls humiliating a male heartbreaker by feeding him estrogen and making him wear panties. Obviously, there's nothing more humiliating than being female. And another 2006 shout-out went to My Super Ex-Girlfriend.
Uma Thurman, whose superpowers exceed the definitions of neurotic clinginess, gets dumped, and “crazy-bitch hilarity ensues.” Notable nominees in previous years include Spike Lee's She Hate Me, for asking viewers “to believe that a bunch of well-heeled lesbians would pay $10,000 to be impregnated the old-fashioned way and get off on it.” And Reese Witherspoon's Sweet Home Alabama, a classic in that very special “punish-the-career-woman” genre. Is there anything you'd add to the list? Submitted by on March 4, 2008 - 6:00pm. |
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I hear you on that!
So true! And him drawing
The Holiday and Bridget Jones
I liked it when the characters of Jack Black and Kate Winslet got together, a happy ending, a soft entertaining movie for me to watch, I liked it. Bridget Jones was very funny, I loved it, especially The Edge Of Reason. As a woman I laughed, it did not even enter my head to think of misogyny. You could say a lot about a lot of movies.
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It's not about making a
sure
I'm not so sure...
about The Devil Wears Prada. I didn't find Miranda one-dimensional and she was a very strong character. I also didn't find that Andrea's decision to quit Runway was a rejection of strong female boss persona. Miranda and Andrea just had different goals in life.
All the others I agree with.
yep
I was surprised to see The Devil Wears Prada on this list. I know it's one of those "ugly chick suddenly turns hot" movies, but not misogynist! Miranda was - to me - a very complex character... I liked that movie a lot!
all others are spot on... I never even saw Superbad, I just saw the trailers and knew it wasn't worth waisting my money on. I saw Knocked Up and the image of Katherine Heigl's baby crowning will forever be burned in my mind... ew. that was WAAAY TMI
I agree. I had no argument
Thank you for this post! I
Freaks and Geeks
Though Judd Apatow was an executive producer on Freaks and Geeks and wrote and directed several episodes, the show was very much the vision of Paul Feig, its creator. It seems that, within Paul's sensitive, inclusive vision, filled with complex, three-dimensional male and female characters (Lindsay Weir is one of the all-time great female TV or movie characters, IMO) Judd's "good" side came out. I'm really disappointed in him for what he's done since then.
Quick correction:
I have a minor correction: Monica Bellucci's character didn't give birth in Shoot 'Em Up. The mother of the baby dies not five minutes in after she gets a bullet in her forehead and has her bare breast groped postmortem by Paul Giamatti's character. It's just as messed up as it sounds.
Most of these movies didn't offend me in the slightest when I saw them. I even have Bridget Jones's Diary, but mostly because I love Colin Firth; Bridget's way too neurotic for my tastes. Superbad only offended me because I was so bored while I was watching (and because the gross-out jokes were not funny), but I thought the McLovin' thread was pretty funny.
I refuse to even watch The
I refuse to even watch The Holiday because the idea that Jack Black's character would get together with Kate Winslet's, and that we should be cheering on such a match, is FUCKING RIDICULOUS. It's KATE WINSLET, people. Jesus. I like Jack Black and all but I am so sick of this "loveable loser" bullshit.
...Wow. I didn't realise I had that much rage.
So true! In reality, none of
i feel you on these movies
Knocked up- i wanted K.Hiegle's character to go at it alone. It left a bad taste in my mouth.
Superbad- i always say i should watch it because it did well but i can't get myself too actually watch it.
Holiday.. just sucked.
She hate me- Always seemed so ridiculous i couldn't really care after the supposed lesbian-kerry washington's character sleeps with the guy.
and there are more i just can't remember.
The Holiday
I read the script for The Holiday and it was a wonderful read. You read and it screamed, "Kate Winslet". Unfortunately, it didn't scream for any of the other cast members. It was casting that killed it, not the writing.
As an aside, I was thinking Kate, Colin Firth as her brother, Kate Walsh as the American woman and someone cute/goofy but ATTRACTIVE for Winslet's love interest.
In the original article...
Definitely! I noticed that
Definitely! I noticed that too....
And some of the comments on that article are painful to read, like this one -->"You've managed to prove another point; Women ruin movies with their completely useless analysis of them." UGH!
I wanted to write
Speaking of irony...
I'm disturbed to see how many people (who are against oppression and discrimination I presume?) take issue with how attractive people are (in regards to being involved in romantic pairings), for example the Kate Winslet/Jack Black thing... I didn't see the movie 'The Holiday' so I don't know what his character was like, but most people aren't commenting on that, they are talking about his appearance. Body image/standards of beauty are huge issues (especially for women) and I think it would be great if we didn't add to the problem no matter who it's targeted at...
...just my 5c...
beauty double standard
I totally agree...
She Hate Me
I've seen that movie...
Oh leave The Holiday out of
Oh leave The Holiday out of this uh... list.
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John Tucker Must Die wasn't
John Tucker Must Die wasn't as misogynistic as you think. they seek revenge on the guy because he was playing like four girls at once or something? and like okay yeah the way they do seems kind of ridiculous, but i guess this is how they take down some macho dude at their high school.
but if anything, its giving power to the girls in the demographic for that movie (middle school/elementary school girls). its fully cheesy but its sort of the truth.
from what I read...
Not really...
I didn't think that movie was mysogynist either, in fact I thought that movie was awesome. Because looking at the big picture, the emotional sensitivity made him more desireble to the rest of the high school's girls; while later in the movie he struts out wearing the same pair of underwear- making them look cool at the same time starting a pantie-wearing fad across the male campus population. (because he's THAT cool)
So the way I see it, the movie didn't punish him at all for being female, instead it showed someone who was secure enough in his masculinity to come back to school to make panties look cool.
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I thought Charlie Wilson's War was painnnnfully focussed on cheesy 80s male-ness and objectified women in the most predictable, gross ways. Half the scenes that included women began with a slow tilt from the ground up, past a woman's butt as it jiggled while she tried to walk in her stilettos. I mean, not that I mind the view... sometimes, though, I just can't get past the intent, and I don't think the intent here was for it to titillate moi - more like my dad or some other washed up baby-boomer. And what a waste of Emily Blunt! She had, like, two slurred lines and then passed out half-naked on putty-faced Tom Hanks' lap. Ugh.
I was also one of the few people I know who couldn't get into The Departed. How many more mob films that glorify guns and organized crime do we need? Geez. There was nothing new there for me. The women in the film had pathetic roles and were crassly and brutally 'disposed of' practically on a whim. The racist comment in the first few lines of the film set me off right away, too. I thought it kind of blew, overall.
Paradise is exactly like where you are right now... only much, much better. ~Laurie Anderson
So The Holiday is
So The Holiday is mysoginistic because Kate Winslet is more attractive than Jack Black? I know plenty of women who find Jack Black attractive and, what's more, stuff like that happens all the time in real life. Maybe I'm biased, but most women are more attractive than the men they end up with. I get the whole "well women always have to be super hot in movies" argument, bu look at the men Kate Winslet is normally paired with (in her mainstream movies). I personally like the message that there's more to attraction than society-valued looks. Yes, I wish there were more movies where the woman was the "less" attractive one, but that alone doesn't make The Holiday mysogynistic.
My Super-Ex Girlfriend, though, was absolutely awful. Not only did Uma Thurman go more insane because she was dumped (she was actually insane before), but at the end, the movie equated powerful women with lunacy.
Articles like that make me think the writer didn't see the movies they complain about. The ending of My Super-Ex Girlfriend was much worse than the main part, John Tucker Must Die was much deeper than that one, admittedly bad, scene makes it seem, and I think Jack Black deserves some love.
Anchorman
Or you know, all those movies with Will Ferrell in them. I mean, they tried to have some kind of feminist equality thing going on for them in the end but not really.
omg, inbd
Bridget Jones
I didn’t see the movie but I started the book when it came out and couldn’t go through with it… too offensive. I remember I was around 13 years old and I thought “this is what I’m supposed to identify with?” Low self esteem, she just thought about finding a man and… above all… I really don’t get this attitude of “Thank you for loving me just the way I am, ‘cause I’m so unworthy…” I think it sends the wrong message, and it’s seen often in films and tv shows.
I also didn’t get “Sex and the city”, four supposedly intelligent, cultured, independent women who could be interested in anything (art, sports, travelling, literature…) and who only worry about men.Just wanna say
I'm pretty sure Monica
I'm pretty sure Monica Belucci's character isn't the one who gave birth in Shoot 'Em Up--in the first ten minutes, Clive Owen's character stumbles upon some nameless woman who gives birth and Belucci enters the plot (such as it is) later. It's a little thing, but it detracts from the credibility of the article.
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I saw superbad..
I thought it was funny because I didn't take it so seriously.I knew it had it's issue but it's not suppose to be a politically correct movie. They let you know that before you even go to see it or rent it.I thought it was more of making fun of guys than degrading women. Also, I love Bridget Jones. I was happy to finally see a character as clumsy and awkward as I am in real life
"I believe all Americans who believe in freedom, tolerance and human rights have a responsibility to oppose bigotry and prejudice based on sexual orientation. "-Coretta Scott King
WRONG ABOUT THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA!!
I am a devout feminist and I firmly take issue with the fact that The Devil Wears Prada is up tere. First of all, it was a BOOK written by Lauren Weisberger. Then, the screenplay was adapted by a woman too named Aline Brosh McKenna. NO MAN HAD A HAND IN WRITING THIS MOVIE!! Secondly, this is a movie where art is imitating life. Like it or not, there are a lot of rich overly-entitled people who treat their assistants like CRAP (and some of them are women!) and this book tells that story.
This movie is no more misogynistic than The Nanny Diaries was. How weak are we as feminists if we can't see a woman portrayed in an unflattering way without pulling the misogyny card? It would be insulting to not tell this story simply because the boss happens to be female. Part of what makes this movie so good is Meryl Streep's amazing performance (which she was nominated for an Oscar and won a Golden Globe for btw). Yes, she plays a ruthlessly bitchy character, but she is also very vulnerable and real when it comes to her family (particularly her daughters).
This movie is a very real depiction of who and what women have to become in order to "make it" in the business world, while also begging the question "Can women have it all?" In a lot of ways they can't, and that is because of the rules governing a patriarchal society. And it would be ignorant for any of us to blame a woman for doing some questionable things to ascend the corporate ladder. I think this movie depicts how vulnerable women feel at the top, and what many have to do in order to stay there. It's smart and filled with a lot of social commentary beneathe all the expensive clothing.
Can anyone who has honestly seen this movie tell me they could see no similarities to real life?
TAKES THE CAKE...
HANDS DOWN...the most misogynistic movie of all time has to be Closer (with Natalie Portman, Jude Law, Julia Roberts, and Clive Owen). I love movies where the men call women bitches, sluts, cunts, and whores for doing the exact same thing the men are doing. Double standards do wonders for my self-esteem. Anyone else?
Second runner up: Dodgeball. It's pretty universally degrading though, not just to women. Lots of tasteless gay jokes too. I don't know why on earth Christine Taylor would agree to be in such an awful movie. She must be blinded by love for her husband b/c it's AWFUL.
Third runner up: The Last Kiss (with Zach Braff and Rachel Bilson). Guy gets his (HOT) girlfriend pregnant. Guy gets cold feet and can't commit to girlfriend (THERE'S SOMETHING NEW!), so he chases a random girl half his age that he meets at a wedding. Greeeeat premise.
re: last kiss
I know what you mean about the last kiss. Granted i didn't find either the girlfriend or rachel bilson's character particularly likable, but the idea that all a guy has to do is something vaguely humiliating which is somehow considered romantic to get the girl back is just so tired. In this case because he sits on her porch for a few days she forgives him. ridiculous. He cheated on her and she was pregnant.
It's been a while since i saw Closer but there was something about natalie portman's character i found extremely likeable. Even though she's a stripper i never felt like she was a lesser person. In fact i think she was one of the stronger characters, like she has this inner strength and she walks away in better shape than Clive owen's character. but as i said it's been a while.
I'm surprised Shallow Hal
Thanks for this
I appreciate you all including this article and damn it, it's about time! I have had it with the rash of 'aren't- these- clueless dorky-guys-charming-as-they degrade-the-women-they-are-trying- to-nail' movies. Superbad's success seems to show that a large adult male audience is still unashamedly grappling with adolescent insecurity issues. Come on guys- grow the F* up. It's hard to believe that so many men would openly revel in being emotional retards....but then again, maybe not.
Thanks again for posting this article.
Ps. I agree with Zillah's posting above, Shallow Hal deserves it's own place in hell.
John Tucker
I don't think "John Tucker" would have been quite so bad if not for the ending.
The whole concept was very sterotypical and ridiculous at best, but if John had actually shown some repentance for his actions at the end it would've made it a little better/less bad. The scene at his birthday party was the perfect opportunity for this, for some serious character development (a rare thing in these types of movies) and I was even hoping that he'd show some genuine shock and sadness upon learning how it feels to be used. Instead he makes some comment about how "yeah I was wrong, but there's nothing wrong with doing all the hottest girls in school!" and we get a random cake fight. In the next scene he makes some vauge promise to "be more honest from now on" but it's really lame and halfassed.
The whole movie was stupid and pretty sexist, but it was the ending that made me actually hate it.
Maybe I'm not a good feminist
Okay, I admit that My Super Ex-Girlfriend was a completely disgusting horrendous movie, but while the Holiday sucked as a movie itself, I didn't find it misogynisty. But I love Dodgeball, and most Will Ferrell movies (though I can't stand Adam Sandler for some reason). but I really like Bridget Jones. it was my bible for about 5 years (mostly because it was based on Pride and Prejudice). She's neurotic, she's clumsy and awkward, she's on the chunky side, she's not pretty, and she doesn't have to go through any sort of cinderella-type transformation to have someone to love her. And while she's not the best role model for women, it's easy enough to identify with her - like the counting of calories but eating of entire milk trays anyway. Though the movies were rather disgusting adaptations, saved only by Colin Firth. heh.
And i just want to say on the subject of supposedly "ugly" men that it's just really nice to see a relatively normal looking man - Edward Norton, Steve Carrell, Jack Black, Colin Firth - not the normal Brad Pitt kind of guys. They're flubby and have funny faces, and they're just so completely normal. they're not so much lovable losers as completely ordinary men.
The only reason I watched
The only reason I watched The Holiday was for Kate, and even though she shined through, her co-stars became a supporting cast. She totally rocks at comedy, though...the scene with her flopping around while listening to Jet was priceless to me, <3.
Typically, romantic comedies and comedies, especially ones made after 1995, have never floated my boat. Too many cheesy men who unrealistically score beautiful women. Every once in awhile, I'd like to see it the other way around.
...and all was well, and the world smiled.
I knew I wasn't the only one who hated...
those loathesome comedies. Not that I've seen all of them, through, of course, but I've seen bits and pieces of some, and all (don't ask why) of the reprehensible Lee film. (do even straight women find Mr. Snipes attractive?). And the very concepts are offensive.
I would like to disagree, however, with the writer's characterization of Hostel 2, a better film than those of you who've not seen it might think, a film with a strong female, at least bisexual, lead, an out lesbian in a leading role, and something to say about man's inhumanity to man. Roth went out of his way not to show a woman being killed by a man - he never does - and this is the thanks he gets for it? While you may not like the solution he found, at least acknowledge that he made the effort. The Bathory image has been used in other horror films, without causing so much controversy. The scene in question is shot with full sympathy for the victim, and doesn't glamorize the violence at all. The only perhaps fully gratuitous violence in the film is male on male ( does that somehow make it better?) and comes after a scene that some in the audience may have found too heavy, in a way trying to reestablish his "horror film" cred. It is gratuitouus ( the "boyfriend" shot, for those who HAVE seen the film), I'll grant, but it's one small misstep in a fine film.
In the Valley of Elah
is at the top of my list for 2007. Susan Sarandon was either doing household chores, abiding by her husband's every command, or grieving for her son. Charlize Theron played the single mother/cop who silently suffers the sexist insults thrown her way by the male detectives. Tommy Lee Jones' character unintentionally busts her in the nose, blackening her eyes, and it comes across as punishment for getting in his way. A nameless woman is drowned by her husband. Nearly every other woman in the film is a stripper. I can appreciate the larger message, but can't get past the fact that its women are, at best, completely marginalized.