Is Anne Heche making a comeback?After reading the New York Times article "Anne Heche is Playing it Normal Now," the phrase "save the drama for your mama" has never seemed so wrong. Actress Anne Heche dishes about family life, her relationship with Ellen DeGeneres, and her strained relationship with her mother, who never acknowledged Heche's sexual abuse at the hands of her father.
In the article, Heche reveals that she has never introduced her children to her mother, and for good reason. In addition to denying that Heche's father abused her as a child, her mother became a Christian therapist, representing evangelical James Dobson’s Focus on the Family in its goal to encourage gays to “overcome” homosexuality. She told the Times:
There is no question that Anne Heche had a rough life, and it is wonderful that she is finally finding peace. However, I found the article to be a just a tad biased towards Heche's relationship with Ellen DeGeneres. The author, I am sure, meant well, and the bias is admittedly subtle and most likely unintentional — but look at the title itself, "Anne Heche Is Playing It Normal Now." Come on. After such a tumultuous life, what could be more normal and boring than dating ever so good natured and drama free Ellen DeGeneres? And then there's this excerpt: Then, at the 1997 Vanity Fair Oscar party, lightning struck and she fell madly in love with Ellen DeGeneres, becoming half of the most famous lesbian couple in America. Because she had never given any indication of being gay, Heche was pilloried as both publicity hound and career opportunist — though in retrospect, given her experience with her duplicitous father and homophobic mother, it could seem that her attraction to DeGeneres had less to do with acting than acting out.
Maybe her attraction to DeGeneres had less to do with "acting out" than falling in love with a woman despite growing up in an environment that could have turned her away from the prospect altogether. It should be noted that Heche reiterates several times in the article that her love for DeGeneres was genuine. In any event, here's to Anne Heche for finding inner peace. Her new film, Spread, opens on August 14, and it portrays a romance between an older woman and a younger man. In the article, Heche mentions in passing that she took the role in part to "get rid of shame about getting older." Oh come on, Anne! Don't you know that cougars are in? RREOWR! Submitted by on August 6, 2009 - 3:00pm. |
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To be honest
Wishing her all the best
I'm a huge Ellen fan and have been mad at Anne for a very long time because of what I assumed she did to Ellen, but I'm not anymore. And even though I think that the woman has some serious issues, I do believe her when she says that her love for Ellen was genuine.
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hum....
I think after she ended her relationship with Ellen her career went into a downward spiral.. and her life perhaps... I mean.. she left a guy to be with Ellen, then left her for a guy... and in the strangest ways... I dunno.. I think there is definitely something off about her... I don't dig this chick.. Although, her life has been really hard.. loosing 3 siblings.. and the ordeal with her father... that is very hard... and then her mom denying that her father abused her... it must be tormenting for her...
"It is easier to disintegrate an atom than human stupidity"-A. Einstein
I've changed since then,
But when she and Ellen broke up I joined the band of lesbians who despised her. I didn't want to see her work, and I couldn't believe she left Ellen for a man. I don't hold grudges anymore, of any kind, and I harbor no ill will toward anyone.
I also never bothered to find out anything about what makes this woman tick. I just read the interview at NYT....WOW! It'a a well written piece of journalism, and I see her with new eyes now. I cannot imagine having lived this life and being this centered in love. I imagine having children can do that, but not for everyone. Plenty of bad mothers out there to attest to that. I have a newfound admiration for her, and wish her peace, love and happiness for all of her days.
I don't like her. She is an
I don't like her. She is an opportunist. She uses men and women when she needs them, then dumps them for her next conquest.
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She will have to win me over
have always loved her work
I have always been, and will remain, an Anne Heche fan
Yes, she may be crazy - which she admits in her autobiography, but she was/is HOT! Her sex scenes in Wild Side; her very interesting friendship with Demi Moore in her debut movie The Juror; and her directing of her then lover Ellen in a love scene with Sharon Stone (If These Walls Could Talk 2) all speak to her comfort with sexuality and women. She is one of those actors who brings chemistry to any scene she is in.
In the brief time she was a bisexual/lesbian, she did a lot for our community. She was vocal, she spoke about love, she didn't hide in shame... For a brief moment, her an Ellen were the IT couple and it was great. They paved the way for Ellen and Portia and where we are today with lesbians in pop culture. They were a People magazine fixture for months. The were not a peekaboo couple (are they, aren't they?). They were unashamed and it was wonderful.
And then she was gone - in a blaze of craziness. She left us, me, broken hearted but with some good memories. The were on Oprah, at Equality Rocks, met the President (as a couple), and on every talk show out there. Anne was fearless. I think that's what I appreciate the most about her. Fearlessness (and her thumbs - ha!).
Good points.
I think you make a lot of important points about Anne Heche, some of which I did not know.
She was amazing in Wild Side. I love Joan Chen, but really in this same movie (I have a perpetual crush on Joan Chen). It was because of that movie I could never outright dislike Heche, and I think physically she is just adorable.
Ellen and Anne were so adorable, brave, crazy in love, and out (like you say) paving the road for celebrities being so out. It was so wonderful to have them as the IT couple. They used the term wife in public before it was okay to.
My overall feeling when they broke up was a broken heart too. I just felt it was so sad. It was the end of something very beautiful and vitalizing.
At first I thought it was because of Anne (the mental issue), but you know, after a few years I realized Ellen did not have a very good track record for long-term relationships, and also I don't know anything really about either of them so I can't say I ever blamed Anne, but felt it was because she was a bit whacky. It wasn't until I realized Ellen had a short attention span for relationships and seemed to go from one woman to the next overnight--and I considered it from Anne Heche's perspective rather than just Ellen's-- I thought who knows how the relationship ended. Was Ellen already seeing someone and it was a sudden end? Was she told, hey move on out? Heche has already been through so much in her life, and her relationship with Ellen was huge and very public. I could see someone coming apart at the seams for awhile...
I certainly don't hold it against her for "going back" to men. That does not mean her relationship with Ellen was any less important to her.
I never really
held things against her when she broke up with Ellen. I have always felt you can't control who you find attractive and who you eventually fall in love with. I will be honest and admit haven't followed her career much before or after her relationship with Ellen, so if she's planning a come back, I doubt I'll lose any sleep over it.
"Come fly away with me, right in the land of eternity"
hmmm
Always liked her...
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Anne Heche, because 6 Days 7 Nights was one of my favourite movies when I was younger, before the rest of the tabloid circus had gotten here. And the segment of If These Walls Could Talk 2 that she wrote and directed is one of my favourite portrayals of a lesbian relationship to date, because of how very normal, verging on boring, they are. Also, Men In Trees was a sweet little series, I was sad to see it cancelled.
Anyway, I've tried to stay away from her personal life, because it just seemed to get crazier by the minute, but I'm glad to hear she seems to be getting back on track.
And also, she said something really nice on one of the talkshows that I randomly happened to catch once, paraphrased because I've never found it again: 'If you're that lucky that you find someone to love, even for a brief time, in this messed-up world, I don't understand how anyone can say that is wrong because of who they are or what gender they are. Because finding someone to love is really really hard.'
I too have a soft spot for Anne Heche
It really annoys me that Anne has to constantly try to convince people that she really did love Ellen when they were together. Why? Because she married a man? Ultimately, love is about people, not gender! And what the heck is "normal", anyway? Uggghhhhh
Anyway, I'm proud of her for having the courage to be exactly who she is, and wish her all the best in life and career.
I agree completely!
It matters to some people
she is an amazing actress but?
Anne Heche>>
I have been following Anne's career since her Emmy winning role as Victoria/Marley on 'Another World.' She has had some major mental and emotional problems which I'm sure she continues to work on overcoming every single day. I don't think she used Ellen at all. Remember ladies: the time Anne came out was a pre-Will and Grace, pre-L World universe and coming out was seen a death warrant to an entertainers career (sadly, many people still feel this way and remain closeted). She fell in love with Ellen b/c she fell in love with Ellen and they broke up b/c of her mental emotional problems. That's not something to hold against anyone. We all know Ellen, unfortunately, got hurt (hey-who doesn't get hurt in a breakup?) but I think it's safe to say she has moved on to greener pastures. :0)
In any case, I am enjoying 'Hung.' I just hope we get to see her character fleshed out a bit more. I didn't get around to watching 'Men In Trees' but I absolutely LOVED her on 'Everwood.' She was brilliant and she will always BE brilliant. I am more than happy that she has found peace and I wish her all the joys in this world.
Thank you
NYT: Spectacularly Ignorant Journalism
Wow. I'm f***ing flabbergasted that a New York Times journalist of all people would write something like "...though in retrospect, given her experience with her duplicitous father and homophobic mother, it could seem that her attraction to DeGeneres had less to do with acting than acting out."
I know the journalist qualified her statement with "could seem" but it's pretty evident that she's implying Anne Heche was "made gay" from a traumatic childhood and not from, you know, irrefutable biology.
Given that Heche had to defend her relationship with Ellen "several times," the NYT journalist seemed pretty fixated on her assumption that their relationship was A.) transcendent teenage rebellion or B.) a horrible byproduct of abuse.
I don't really have an opinion about Ms. Heche, but good for her, sticking up for the legitamacey and love in her relationship with Ellen.
~Lolita
"But to see her was to love her, love but her, and love forever."
mistake
her mother acted out
"...though in retrospect, given her experience with her duplicitous father and homophobic mother, it could seem that her attraction to DeGeneres had less to do with acting than acting out."
Or Heck just wasn't strong enough to believe in herself when her mother 'acted out' by becoming a make you straight doctor!!! But I can really see why this journalist would say Heck acted out, I mean Ellen is such the example of a bad girl, that must be why she and Portia were voted best celebrity babysitters!
There's always two sides to an issue
But considering her mother and family was like that, I wouldn't blame her fully for suddenly freaking out like that with Ellen.
Well, cougars are pretty awesome. xD
I've never understood lesbians
attitude towards Anne Heche?!
Anne has spoken about how her acting was a source of tension between her and Ellen, with Ellen preferring that Anne not work. Maybe Ellen was not a complete picnic to live with back then? ... she had afterall, just (publically) come out and then her sitcom was cancelled.
We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. We all learn from our past relationship mistakes and Ellen seems to have encouraged Portia to work.
Who are we to say Anne's feelings for Ellen were not real? ... Can the label of bisexual not apply to her for some reason? ... Relationships break up all the time and Ellen was with Alexandra Hedison when she "crossed paths" with Portia!
Anne contracted herpes from her father and can't rely on her own mother ... so I'm not going to judge a woman (over petty celebrity things) when she's experienced the worst.
Who cares
Don't like her
Never liked her still don't like her. She radiated that whack job vibe long before Ellen and I knew trouble was brewing. What Ellen ever saw in this ugly woman. But; hey paved the road to Portia so all's well that ends well.
Don't wish her ill, don't go away mad just go away.... please!
How quickly we forget
How quickly we forget Alexandra Hedison, the 'perfect love of Ellen's life' before Portia.
Lesbians need to stop treating Ellen like she is a saint and realize that she might have some very human shortcomings and there might be another side to Ellen...
ditto
I said this in different words in a post above.
It just shows how far the mighty have fallen....
when the New York Times Magazine publishes a full-length profile of Anne Heche.
Terrific actess? Yes. But so are (in no particular order) Cherry Jones, Elizabeth Mitchell, Cate Blanchett, Judy Davis, Emily Watson, Rachel Griffiths, Janet McTeer, Kristin Scott-Thomas and a host of others in the 40 and older category, not to mention Glenn and Meryl.
Anne Heche is an attention-whore and a user, which is apparently part of her crazy. One of the funniest things I've ever seen on TV was the Emmy Awards that Ellen hosted, when she sidled up to Steve Martin in the audience. There was no need to emblazen the screen with "Victims of Anne" because everyone got the joke and laughed.
That being said, I do think she was treated unfairly by the industry when she got together with Ellen. It's impossible to say that she would have gone on to the type of career that someone like Cate Blanchett has had, but the apparent end of film offers during her relationship with Ellen was not coincidental.
This poor woman
I'm of mixed feelings on Anne Heche, but it really saddens me that so many in the queer women's community still feel the need to bash her. So many of the comments about her "leaving Ellen for a man" and "being a publicity-hungry user" are the same ones aimed at bisexual women in general. Hearing things like this make it hard for bisexual women to be out, and to be honest, about who we are and who we love.
Personally, I wish that Anne was willing to claim the bisexual label and talk publically about her own experiences there, but that's because I feel that we need some famous public figure to do that SO MUCH. But I think it's to her credit that during her time with Ellen she threw herself so whole-heartedly into unapologetic queer activism, and that she's spoken out so forthrightly against her mother's homophobic crusade to "cure" those of us who are queer. It's also true that she sacrificed her film career, and her most marketable years, to being out, and the fact that she's now being cast as an "older woman" says loads about how misogynistic Hollywood is.
And as someone who has loved and been in relationships with women with sexual abuse histories--of course she seems off! What the woman has lived through was HORRIFIC--both what her father did to her while she was still in diapers and her mother's denial of it. Yes, abuse histories can painfully complicate romantic relationships. But that doesn't mean that it was all Anne's fault. We'll never know, but I think the woman deserves to be left in peace.
To be honest too
I never was a Fan and I'll never be!!!
... she isn't smart, funny, much talented... and hasn't any Charisma!
Anne before she was truly famous
My ex was a child star on the soap Another World and worked with Anne Heche briefly. My exes mother (who is kinda crazy herself) claims that Anne once told her while on set, "I will do anything to become famous." So, basically, she believes Anne was with Ellen for the fame; but, who really knows? Only Anne herself. I hope it was genuine because I know it was for our lovely Ellen.
"Is your place in Heaven worth giving up these kisses? "-Tori Amos
I respect her
I am also not a big fan of her acting, but Anne Heche used to be quite a hyped actress, back when she was with Ellen. So I really don't think that this was a career move. It didn't help her career actually.
I remember how openly she talked about her relationship and that was a big step at that time. And also I think it's fair to stress that she really loved Ellen, because the media tried (and still tries) to play the "she's on the right track again" card. So I like the fact, that she doesn't dismiss her relationship in hindsight.
But she really gets my respect for talking about her abuse. She is breaking a taboo and that's a good thing, because silence is not helping the victims but the committers of these crimes. And I hope that because of her example other victims can see that it is possible to be happy again and live a fulfilled life. Or maybe one mother won't look away. I think what Anne Heche does is amazing and brave.
People need to be forgiven at a certain point
Not that I'm defending Anne Heche or anything. I don't really care much for her either way. But I do feel that people do make mistakes in life. Very bad ones. But I feel that as human beings we are not forgiving of each other and we go on hating a person for what they have done in the 1990's. Not saying that we have all done this before but I'm sure many of you on this site have.
Maybe it is a worse thing for a woman to leave another woman for a guy than it is for her to leave her for a girl. I honestly think it is the same thing. If my gf left me for a guy or a girl, I'd be equally as hurt. But we all are forgetting that Ellen and Porsha both left their mates to be with each other. Yet people don't care about how their exes feel about that.