Ilene Chaiken won't give us what we want

no resolution, but alice in jail for The Farm? Is Ilene on crack? Is she trying to alienate every loyal viewer? This is just depressing. I want Season 5 Jenny back - more adorable glasses, more hot (fun, and HAPPY) scenes with Kate French, more hilarious antics!! Oh, and while we're working miracles, how about a good plot line for Helena, too? And um, bring back Carmen. Seriously.

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I think I refuse to believe she'll actually do this to us. Didn't she say that the last couple episodes would feature viewer input?

And gawd, after last night I'm guessing that *anything* goes in this the final season. I get the distinct impression that we're in for a wild ride...!!

Chaiken is a hack (and I use the term lightly, I'd use stronger words, but I'm biting my tongue) -- all she wants is a big payday for a big screen movie.  Sorry IC, but last I looked, tLW would never been, never has been, SatC. -- It is a poor man's QaF, with lackluster storylines, the worst continuity on screen, stunt casting for the sake of stunt casting.  Why the stellar Leisha Hailey was thinking when she said ''yes'' to doing your next show, confuses me.    Good Luck, IC, you certainly won't be getting my hard earned dollar.  Or my support.

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"Ilene Chaiken won't give us what we want"

 I find this especially interesting because last Spring Ilene and Showtime made such a huge deal out of asking for input from the fans about how they wanted the season to play out. 

What the heck happened??  I actually feel really bad for the L-word folk because the show has become such a disaster.

If it gets better in the next few episodes i'll eat my words, but I honestly don't know how anything can be salvaged from this train wreck.

damn you, Ilene.
I curse you, vehemently.

'Till you do right by me!  Everything YOU THINk about is gonna FAAAAIIILLLL!!!

"Be who you are and say what you feel,
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind." ~Dr. Seuss

IC just continues to baffle me... What other show has the creator in the promos? I assumed it was to showcase the real lesbian behind the Lesbian Show. I'm sure her enormous ego played a role too.

What disturbs me is that some of the total freakishness of the show can be put down to the desire to entertain enough people to keep this "groundbreaking drama" on the air - but isn't she supposed to be all about doing it for the visiblity of all the lesbians out there in the world? That's the line we've been given to swallow on a regular basis. The Little Lesbian Show that could...

Meanwhile its the actors - of whom many are straight - were the ones fighting to keep this ever crazier gay show from flying off the rails. Just listen to some of the actors commentaries and interviews and its obvious that most of the time the cast is asking the same questions as the audience... WTF????!!!!!

If IC is all about making a statement to the world with the L Word I am struggling to figure out what it is. She has got to be kidding that there is no resolution. No wonder there was a few wry remarks coming from the likes of J Beals about how they wrapped it up - or didn't. After putting the cast and crew through 6 years of fighting to make this acid trip believeble and "real" they didn't even give them the resolution of a wrap party... that had to come in part from the fans at a convention halfway around the world.

My L Word is Lost... but wait they did that show already.

SPECIAL NOTE: viewers of the show should begin the new season drinking game now (instead of Kit's GIRRRL) try one with a double shot everytime someone says "you're dead meat, Jenny Schecter... just dead meat". I foresee many a drunken evening in our futures being that there are only 6 shows left and alot more characters to piss off.

"Why on earth would I miss the chance to wear smelly used shoes, drink warm domestic beer and kick your ass?"  - Bette

If only we had more lesbian TV shows, we wouldn't have to watch this one...

I wonder if I made the only lesbian TV show around if I'd be this arrogant too.

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Wow. That is so annoying! Come on, Ilene!!  Grrrrrrrrrrrr 

When words leave off, music begins.  ~Heinrich Heine

I'm not surprised that they won't reveal who the killer is, but I'm very surprised that Ilene chooses to say this not even half way into the season. She's spoiling her own show! That's just dumb. And an L word movie? How the hell is that supposed to work if they're doing the spin off??

Well, I don't know why I expected logic from Ilene. So, leave out the ending just so you can get a movie deal? That's fucked.

In other words, there is no murderer. All we've got is one dead character and a sure-fire way to focus all of the attention on the least deserving person - Ilene.

Mama Chaiken's been smokin' somn fierce...

Seriously, whatEVER. At this point I'm just in for the crazyass ride and don't really expect anything spectacular, just a lot of crazy. And hopefully no carny people :P

I love how everyone got so mad at being given too much information about Season 6 and now everyone is all pissed at not getting enough information.

I've come to the conclusion that it's IMPOSSIBLE to please the readers here when it comes to the L Word. I think I'm actually one of the few people here who love the show, has always loved the show, and still loves the show.

In some of the comments people are talking about Chaiken holding out for a movie deal. Why wouldn't lesbians support a possibility of a main stream lesbian movie? All people ever do here is bitch about lesbians not being represented enough. Well, the second the inclination of a rumor of a possible lesbian movie by Chaiken is uttered and how do people react? Everyone dumps on it! What a bunch of hypocrites!

Sometimes I think I missed the "You have to hate Ilene Chaiken" memo. Is there something wretched this woman did to someone and I don't know about it? I am so confused as to why she is so disliked here. Feel free to fill me in on what I'm supposed to hate because apparently I'm just a clueless fan.

I don't think there has ever been a T.V. show that has ever pissed me off so much. How the hell can she not tell us who fing killed Jenny? Jesus Christ. I think she loves screwing us over. How the f does she not feel compelled to tell us? Yes the show is about the fing characters, so if our beloved characters get killed, I think the only nice thing she could do is at least fing tell us who killed them!

Its not impossible to please the viewers. In fact it is quite simple. Okay she gave us more information than we wanted in the beginning, but then the whole promotion for the 6th season is : Oooo someone is getting killed. Even on fing Showtime there is a poll asking us who we think the killer is. Wouldn't it just be the obvious conclusion the they will reveal to us who the killer is?

I hate her. I really do. I don't care if she gave us this show, she may have given it to us, but she certainly ruined the possibility of what it could have been. I'm so mad.

I seldom bad-mouth other writers, but she is really, really bad. The least she can do is give us a satisfying ending.

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"The show is about character and relationships, and I used this story to deeply explore those relationships."

That is a vile and odious lie.  Ilene Chaiken does absolutely no such thing, unless by "deeply explore" she means "barely establish then frak around with."

OK so, I've been as frustrated with TLW as anyone else, but I don't understand why everyone is so upset about this.

I for one think it's one of the few good ideas Ms. Chaiken has had regarding the show.

No matter who she would have chosen to be the killer it would have been predictable and blah. Let's face it.

Plus I did NOT want to watch a season of whodunit on TLW because it would have been a trainwreck and horrendously executed. The last time I checked that seemed to be the prevailing notion on here, so what's changed? How come everyone is now crying foul that the L Word won't be a drawn out game of lesbian clue?

I'm no Chaiken fan, but you guys gotta let up on her sometimes. Yikes!

You know what I think, That in some crazy way jenny Isn't really dead. For all you know with jenny being in the whole movie business with tina, their just making another movie and it just so happens that all of them are in it as actors. cause the movie lez girls got stolen from them so they decided to do one on their own and did some whole sha-bam of a movie and IC is just showing the part of a movie as the ending when really. in the end they live happily ever after. the end!! but think about really?.. you think that could happen. and all IC is doing is just making you sit threw all of it ?

 and another the part .. the spin off. they probly thought "alice was soo good at acting, insted of being on the view or w/e she decieds to be an actress and the whole jail thing is just another movie..

BUT THATS JUST ME GUESSING. 

ps. i suck at spelling

This is likely a clever marketing plot to get viewers to watch the spin-off. Promises might be made as to finding out the identity of the killer in The Farm, rather than on a show that is breathing its last, final gasps.

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I guess this is the first thing I happen to agree since casting Rachel Shelley. Whatever the reason is that they chose to go this route, I can't yet judge since we haven't seen the whole season yet. But I seriously hope and am now glad that they won't tell us who did it. Cause really, if it were someone from the core group or supporting cast, it would totally ruin the whole thing. I wouldn't want to watch reruns and think "OMG how can X kill Jenny?" or "Y, would you just kill her already!!".

But I was hoping to see some forward/rewind shots/scenes ala Damages, but guess that was too much to ask for. Lucy!

 I imagine this getssung a lot around the L Word set:

 
These people around here wear beaten-down eyes
Sunk in smoke-dried faces
They're so resigned to what their fate is
But not us, no, not us
We are far too young and clever . . .

Boy, am I glad I stopped watching TLW long ago at the end of season two. Especially after hearing about Dana and various other comments. I'm just passing the show by for five minutes to see Lucy Lawless as a cop - other than that, I wonder wtf Ilene has been doing to what once was a great show.

I know we're all mad at IC, me included.  She's made some crappy moves and obviously loves to see us squirm, but... can we move on?

Honestly...its been filmed, its currently airing and there isn't anything we can do.

I know I could just not read these, but when I see the L Word..I click on it, and lately I've been pretty dissapointed with the posts. :/

First of all Shane and Jenny?! Seriously? Carmen was written out and the best they can do is Jenny?? Smh

Second at the risk of ppl rolling their eyes at me or running their hands over their faces in disbelief,  what. the. heck.  are you guys complaining about? You should know by now that there is a 90% chance of your fave show not going the way you hoped. Writers, like IC, don’t think about  how we are going to respond to their story, they just want the opportunity to tell it (relatively speaking, since the studio has the final say, which, come to think of, it is probably what happened here, hmmm,  let’s give IC the benefit of the doubt before bashing her huh. I mean isn’t Tina having that problem?). In a world where mainstream television writes about a gay character only to have them written out or have barely a storyline or no gay character at all shouldn’t we give IC a break and appreciate that we do have a show to look at.

Don’t get me wrong I totally agree with some of you that tLW could have a taken a different road however since the most I have written is a page and not hundreds of pages for the past 6 yrs I won’t be to quick to point out the faults in the show, for I am truly pleased that IC wrote it and that Showtime accepted it, because it could have easily ended up nowhere. For it is MY opinion that tLW is one of the best shows on tv. You see I’m a gay girl living in a straight world (where we can’t be open for fear of being ‘ bashed’) and quite frankly getting f*cking tired of it. So whatever ‘gayness” comes my way   good or bad I appreciate it because from where I’m sitting there isn’t a gay show or even a gay movie that has the caliber which is that of tLW, for this is only the beginning of ‘gay tv’ it’s only going to get a lot better from here and I for one can’t wait and hope it doesn’t take another lifetime to do so.

After the last five seasons, not revealing the murderer is pretty much what I would expect.

I'm not sure iif this is just a case of an ego going unchecked, but it seems like a slap in the face of fans who just wanted a show to call our own.  TLW starts in Canada tomorrow night; I'm debating whether I'll tune in or just keep updated on the show with the recaps here.

Maybe the spin-off, if it gets picked up, will learn from TLW mistakes.

While that damned theme song and echoing (thank God they got rid of that) annoys me to no end, I will admit that hiring a decent scorer is one thing that Chaiken did right. Often, the musical choices for the show have supplemented scenes that would've been considered mediocre otherwise, completely saving the show from its bad writing.

Example: 6.02. El Perro Del Mar's "From the Valley to the Stars" totally saved the final scene from being a bigger WTF than it already was.   

Too bad BETTY had to use the show as a publicity platform in the second and third season. That kinda ruined it.

Inkblots

this must have been one of the best written installments i have ever read on after ellen, and there are lots of them around here as everybody knows. some passages reminded me of some of alison bechdel's loveliest lines in her dykes to watch out for.

as to solving the mystery or not -- when have i stopped caring? argh.