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Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay uses "lesbian" as an insult

Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay is not known for being polite. In fact, if he does not say something rude or boorish within 10 minutes of appearing on air or in public, he probably has a bad case of laryngitis.

Usually, however, he needs to be provoked before he launches into his trademark expletive-ridden tirades, and I use the term "provoked" broadly. "Provoking" Gordon Ramsay includes horrifying transgressions such as appearing within his line of sight or breathing in his presence.

On Friday night, Ramsay was interviewed by Australian television personality Tracy Grimshaw on A Current Affair, where he commented on a mole on her lip, asking, "Is that a wart? It looks like your little sister's on your lip." This type of behavior is completely normal for Ramsay — and even expected — but his perplexing rant against Grimshaw on the following day was excessive, even for Ramsay.

Saturday, at the Good Food and Wine Show in Melbourne, Ramsay launched into an offensive diatribe against Grimshaw, in which he called Grimshaw a lesbian and even showed a visual depiction of Grimshaw as a naked subservient female pig. Usually, the victim of his invectives is directly engaging with him at the time, so dragging out the verbal abuse a full day after an interview is simply bizarre.

Ramsay told an audience of several thousand people that Grimshaw was "a lesbian," the Sunday Herald Sun reports:

When the crowd reacted with gasps, he said, "What? I'm not saying she's a dyke," using a slur for gay women.

Ramsay also showed a picture of a woman — who appeared to be naked — on her hands and knees with the features of a pig and multiple breasts.

"That's Tracy Grimshaw," he told the audience. "I had an interview with her yesterday. Holy crap. She needs to see Simon Cowell's Botox doctor."

Ramsay — who later dismissed the comments as a joke — went on with more innuendos about Grimshaw's sexual preference and activities.

First, Ramsay calling anyone a pig is sadly ironic. Second, the sexism and homophobia in Ramsay's little exercise is readily apparent to anyone with a functioning brain, so I will not belabor the point.

The CEO of Australia's Channel Nine phoned Ramsay to tell him that his comments crossed the line, but of course, telling Ramsay to shut his mouth is like telling Rush Limbaugh that it's time to retire already. We're over it, but some people simply cannot bear to fade from the limelight.

Last night, Grimshaw responded herself:

Obvious Gordon thinks that any woman who doesn't find him attractive must be gay. For the record, I don't. And I'm not.

I was absolutely miserable when I found out late Saturday afternoon. He says it's a joke. Well, not to me or anyone who cares about me.

Truly, I wonder how many people would laugh if they were effectively described as an old, ugly pig.

But we all know that bullies thrive when no-one takes them on, and I'm not going to sit meekly and let some arrogant narcissist bully me.

Was this stunt intended to keep him in the public view, did his bout of food poisoning push him over the edge, or is Ramsay just an incorrigible jerk?

June 10 Update: Ransay has issued an apology for his "off-the-cuff" remarks, calling them "inappropriate and offensive," and Grimshaw has reportedly accepted his apology.

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  • Anonymous's picture

    i'm surprised

    that something like this hasn't come from him before.  this guy is a straight up asshole and i don't know how anyone finds him entertaining.

    *do* any of you find him entertaining?

    greentara313's picture

    ...

    I did find him entertaining. I always thought that he was an ass, but I thought he was just your standard kind of ass not an offensive d**k of an ass. His comments were definitely uncalled for and were abnormal even for him.
    BritishLily 's picture

    Plasticine face!

    He's saying SHE needs botox?? Look at his forehead!!!

    He's just an idiot who cheats on his wife and I swear he's got torrettes the way he swears all the time! I must admit though I do like watching The F-Word, I can just about put up with watching him on that.

    Dianethewaitress's picture

    This is very unlike him. He

    This is very unlike him. He is normally very gay friendly, he loves his gay men fans.
    Andi Torak's picture

    Wouldn't usually defend Grimshaw, but...

    Huh, I find that interesting. I'm from Australia, and Tracy Grimshaw really is a poor excuse for a journalist and presenter, but still, no one deserves that. It's one thing to say she's a crap journalist, it's another to be horribly insulting to her as a person and being horribly sexist and homophobic. I kinda feel sorry for the woman.

    Well, it depends what you mean by friend...

    Cj21's picture

    what!

    This guy is an asshole, someone needs to smack him upside the head!!
    CoolCustomer's picture

    not surprised

    I am NOT surprised. His TV personality of the 'Fix-It-Nazi-Chef' may have shock value but he is obviously comedically as well as verbally challenged. I bet one of his girlfriends left him for a gorgeous she-Chef!! 

     

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    Sass's picture

    He's an utter waste of

    He's an utter waste of space, its these type of people (Jeremy Clarkson etc) I can't stand, they are made famous by their bigoted attitudes. He's always doing this sort of thing though, last year he called Lilly Allen 'a chick with a dick', who knows why. If anyone else behaved the way he did they would be outcast but not him...but then again there was the whole affair thing and one of his companies has just gone bust - so I think there is karma after all!

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    Gia007's picture

    Well surprise surprise...

    Or not.  The man is a first class wanker and a prize pig.  To think I used to respect him and wanted to work for him...Sass is right, what goes around comes around.
    lazigal's picture

    Unfair to the PIGS

    If you call this guy a pig you are being unfair to the poor animals because even them do not deserve to be put in the same class or even compared to Ramsay.

    That guy is in an asshole class of his own. Look at his face ewwwww... I don't know if I can stand being in his presence. I watched the past season of his chef reality series but never again! Thanks to Marlee Matlin for giving me the heads up; am her follower on twitter and got this message of Ramsay insults on my message board. Shame on you Ramsay!! Ass**** naccissist! or is it Naccissist ass****!

     

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    Anonymous's picture

    Me thinks

    Grimshaw turned him down.
    lucigray's picture

    A Hole

    I have never understood why someone (yes Gordon, YOU) is allowed to belittle people and make them feel small in the name of entertainment. I think his popularity is a sad reflection of a ever growing trend to laugh at people's misfortunes; or them being belittled in some way is dressed up as entertainment. I'm not saying we should go around being uber nicey nicey all the time that's unrealistic. But, to give someone so much airtime who basiclly treats people like shit seems odd to me.

    And yes, I have heard him on many occassion saying positive things about gay men. I think this again points at something deeper in out society. In the UK anyway, we have a number of very popular gay male tv personalities, Alan Carr, Graham Norton, John Barrowman (to list a few) seem to be constantly on tv. As I'm writing this I have just turned Eastenders over to Coronation steert and have seen gay male characers on them both. But, no lesbian anywhere (apart from Skins!). It seems to have almost be have become cool for straight male celebs to say they have gay male friends and not be shy about saying positive things about them. Which, of course, is fantasic.

    However, when it comes to lesbians there seems to be almost no representation at all (cue rolling tumbleweed.....). Rhona Cameron (Scotitish lesbian comedian) did Celebrity Wife Swap last night, which was actually brilliant as it showed a great example of someone who was initially unwittingly and naively very homophobic and by the time she'd spent a week living with a lesbian she had completely changed her opinion and ended up being quite pro lesbian.

    Anyway, I'm COMPLETELY off the point now! But, what I'm trying to say is that lesbians still seem to be fair game when it somes to being the butt of jokes or for 'lesbain' to be used as a character slurr. We desperately need more lesbian visabilty and good roles models flying the flag. I reckon the US seems to have a lot more out lesbians in the media than we do in the UK. Claire Balding (respected UK sports presenter) is the only one I can think of that appears regularly on tv.

    Lets hope that one day that 'lesbian' will become a word that is meant as a compliment not an insult!

    Clara's picture

    Thanks for the headsup, I

    Thanks for the headsup, I found he episode on catchuphttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/celebrity-wife-swap/catch-up

    did anyone see the one with Sam Fox on? It was really good. The only celeb on I've seen. I guess they have a lot of celeb lesbian ones. But you're right, we have no Ellen or Rachel Maddow or anybody like that but tons of gay guys in the spotlight who are loved. I have to say re. Rhona I saw her on Parkinson (which I've watched like one time when David Tennant *eee* was on) and she was SOOOO depressing, did not like, but I will not judge her just on that. Saw her interview Sophie Ward as well who was sweet and that was okay. (and in a linkup, Sophie Ward was in a low budget film I have with Sophia Myles in who was in an ep. of DrWho with Tennant and dated him - sos off topic). But when Sue Perkins (eeee - who to link again with my post reminds me somewhat of Tennant and Maddow and vice versa,) was on CelebBB she said Rhona outed her and it was a terrible r/s, and I loved Sue on Maestro and Supersizers. - Note - Sue and Giles are on Jonathan Ross this fri! who, has a band called 4 poofs and a piano yet said that homophobic miley mp3 player comment the other say and isn't homophobic.. hmm. i think he just plays to stereotypes of gay ppl and what others think of them.. his jokes about his houseband are always cringey

    anyways, i basically linked everything up, somehow everything links up in my head :)

    re. Gordon, a) he is known for having THE most wrinkled head ever, his coments were stupid BUT a lot of women do find him sexy and don't know why, so he does kinda get away with the botox irony there because unfairly he does somehow work his wrinkly head. I don't like his comments but he is somehow likable in a grumpy way, like Sir Alan Sugar say, cus when they do smile, its extra special. Btw 4 girls in the UK Apprentice Finale! Can I get a whoop! Alan also said they were the finalists by far so, that's pretty cool for business women. sorry, off topic. just wanted to link up UK happenings :)

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    Clara's picture

    Okay this is really long

    Okay this is really long but I found a message I wrote ages ago about when Sam Fox was on Wife Swap so I'll copy and paste it in:

    Sam Fox came across as quite sweet actually and handled the tasks well. The guy she had to live with was Freddy Star. I thought I'd say about it because Sarah etc have written about how reality TV often has a negative light e.g. Tila Tequila, and I just thought this was the opposite. Freddy seemed very immature, lazy, expected his wife to do everything, he said women shouldn't moan about the washing because they have a machine which does most of the work for them, he answered his phone in the middle of the big important, some-what tense meeting of all 4 people. He is constantly winding people up but its not funny, Sam said it was wearing but just went with it. She was actually v. nice asking him if wanted a sandwich but he said "women make one sandwich, they think they own the place".. to the camera. Not very nice about women. He even mentioned Dwarf Porn :S and tried to make it funny but it was kinda like tumbleweeds going past. She was just like.. "okay, yes" and got used to nodding to make life easier. He even ordered in Chinese when he finally agreed it was his turn to organise dinner instead of cooking (even though Sam offered to help two days running after he was rude) because he said his wife Donna does when she's busy (except he wasn't busy). He kinda dragged the kids into that argument, it looked akward. In his house normally Donna does all the cooking etc but in Sam's house this was shared.


    Oops, I went a bit off topic, I thought since you probably can't see it I would set the picture of him. Anyways Sam basically came across way better, she kept to the bargain and went he said stuff like "you have done half of what Donna does" she answered in a non-negative way by saying "Probably, I think Donna's amazing". I actually don't know why his wife lived with him, they had quite a lot of rows etc, said it was over between them, even ended up venting to the production crew. Sam was supportive about. In the first clip Donna seemed subdued by him but she was actually very nice.

    Anyways my point is the program totally made Sam look better and him look like an idiot (im sure because that was the case) and Donna and Myra (Sam's gf) went to resaturants and she said Myra should have more her-time and even lit candles by her bath and got it ready for her! Also Sam and her had thought about having kids, Sam decided she was maternal by looking after Donna's child and Donna had Myra organise a kids party to see if she was which I thoguht was going to be odd but wasn't. There was one bit where they were reading the manuals each family left and about children it said "Its difficult with our way of life" but then that was actually referring to the touring and busy schedule Sam had rather than sexuality. It was way sweet when they were reunited, both couples. They all came across really well, inc, children all except Freddy. I guess there's the diff. between good playful immature (like your Hitlist) and what Freddy was. Anyways I ended up talking more about how annoying he was than Samantha Fox but I dunno I just kind of liked that episode, it didn't seem any different that it was two women, it wasn't even mentioned (but not in the way they were avoiding it) except for one bit where Donna says "the fact I was swapping with two women didn't phase me".

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    Clara's picture

    it. won't. let. me.

    it. won't. let. me. edit.

    okay just 5 mins into wife swap and it is showing the dude and his wife to be morons and rhona and her girl to be adorable. and the narrator/editor totally agrees i think. god his wife says women should be subserviant! rhona seems sweet, I'd still pick sue I think.. every time it talks about Serane I think they're gonna say 'sir alan' or 'sir anne' too much apprentice! and when narrator said 'gaytime tv' i thought for a moment he meant to say daytime

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/mums-gone-gay related link looks interesting too 

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    lenageek's picture

    Why I don't watch reality TV - too many A-holes!

    "I have never understood why someone (yes Gordon, YOU) is allowed to belittle people and make them feel small in the name of entertainment. I think his popularity is a sad reflection of a ever growing trend to laugh at people's misfortunes;"

    I agree completely! Geez, as if Gordon doesn't sound like enough of an a-hole, put more fuel on the fire! This kind of 'reality entertainment' and why it gets ratings to stay on for years, while decent, well scripted dramas/comedies get cancelled every year is beyond me. Just shows how stupid a portion of the American viewing public are and why I'm not watching much TV anymore. Everything I enjoy is either cancelled or is reality TV.                                                  

     

    lucigray's picture

    You're right, on TV Rhona

    You're right, on TV Rhona always comes acroos really badly and her autobiographical book is very interesting but very depressing. I've seen her live 3 times ans she's an amazing stand up though.

    I love Sue too (anad Mel for that matter!). Did you see Mel on The Games a few years ago? Hilarious!

    And at last a lezzie on Big Brother too! I think the last one was BB4 (yes, I know I'm sad ;) )

    The Apprentice was brilliant for woman this year. I quite fancied Yasmina.

    Clara's picture

    So far I am really liking

    So far I am really liking Rhona on wifeswap. so far the woman she's swapped with is assuming Rhona has a husband, waiting to see the moment of discovery! Rhona seems a bit moany and SO picky, at first I thought he was an idiot but now I think that his wife is for letting him walk over her and actually he's coming across as better than Rhona, unlike the last lesbian celeb wife swap where everyone was lovely except the dude. Suran Rhona's gf seems lovely

    I <3 Sue much more than Mel but yes I loved the Games. I don't like reality TV usually or watching sports (playing I do though) but somehow LOVED The Games. Where did it go?!!!

    Yeah, I'm like 15 mins into the BB housemates entering the house (I doubt I'll watch much of it) but distracted by AE vlogs, Queer as Folk US. Rachel Maddow, Bones and Apprentice which I also want to watch! (I'm going back to watch the one i missed where they're gaying up that seaside town). Yea Yasmina was most attractive though I the american woman seems r. nice and some of the guys are a laugh. James is hialrious. Nonchanlantly comparing being project manager to losing your cherry, lmao! even sir Alan loved him I think. but yeah, couldn't work out if i liked Yasmina or not, sometimes she was so serious looking and her eyebrows were really odd, is that shallow? but thinking i liked her really :)

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    Please Replace's picture

    Yeah me too

    Yeah me too about the Yasmina thing. Its the only reason I wanted her to win.

    on_the_level_77's picture

    Ignorant wretch

    I have long hated Gordon Ramsay with the fiery heat of a thousand suns, and this comment just adds more fuel to the flames.  Who the f*ck died and gave him the right to criticize anyone who dares to be imperfect (as if he is the definition of perfection himself)??  He has a major God complex, and it's pathetic.  I've never understood why nobody stands up to him...  I hope this journalist gives him a solid beatdown the next time she's forced to be in his presence!! 

    The tragic thing is that he feeds off of other people's hatred of him.  If he ever read the comments on this page, he would just laugh his ass off and call us all a bunch of ugly dykes.  When you're evil incarnate, nothing can ever make you change...

     

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    KiwiB's picture

    Go Tracy,

    She is one of the best Australian reporters!!! 

     Ramsey will look a bigger tool if Grimshaw continues to act with the grace and class that has seen her through 25years in the industry.

     

    Cathryn's picture

    Tracy Grimshaw

    I'm Australian, but I'm certainly not a huge fan...well not even a fan at all of Tracy Grimshaw, however I have to admit she so far has handled this incredibly well. As for Gordon Ramsay well I have nothing to say for this horrible man who can't seem to get it into his head that not everyone appreciates his 'bullying narcissic views' as Tracy Grimshaw said.

    This is a link to an article about Grimshaws response: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/entertainment/823142/grimshaw-fires-back-at-gordon-ramsay

    Ashley Maile's picture

    who is this guy to

    who is this guy to call others out on their looks? His forhead looks like Ann Coulter's back.

    And what a damn shame she isn't a lesbian... can you sayyy, cougar alert?! haha

     

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    Historymeg's picture

    You can put lipstick on a chef...

    Who knows what possessed Gordon Ramsey to engage in this particular diatribe. Perhaps he's seen too many of our homegrown Australian misogynists trying to pass off their rants as humour and thought it would play well. 

    I've never been a fan of Tracy Grimshaw or "A Current Affair" as they rarely raise above the worst kind of tabloid journalism, but he was clearly way way out of line The whole pig/naked woman thing was disgusting and she clearly didn't deserve that kind of public attack.

    That said, Tracy Grimshaw isn't winning any new points with me at the moment either.For that she would need to point out that regardless of Ramsey's intent, being called a lesbian is in itself not an insult. I'm left feeling like she's buying into the homophobia just as much as he is. 

    Caffinated's picture

    how much does he think he can say?

    From expirience and observation, men only lash out with the attacks on womens sexuality when their male egos have been bruised. He was probably being an insufferable smutty thing during their off air interview moments and she wasn't interested. thefore - she doesn't want him - she is a lesbian. blah. I don't enjoy watching him at all anyway.

    I'm from Aus and Grimshaw is either loved or hated over here, but I think she's doing the right thing by at least telling him where to go. Even after he had a second retaliation attack against her. What's with the stupid pig picture - REALLY...

    Cathryn's picture

    Ramsay claime he didn't say it...

    Ramsay now claims that he didn't call her a lesbian, and has he tapes to prove it:

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/5638428/ramsay-says-he-didnt-call-tracy-a-lesbian/

    KiwiGirl1974's picture

    COCAINE

    I'm convinced of it - he's so erratic ... and with his affairs being exposed, we know he lives a double life.

    This story was not about Tracy's journalism, it's about Gordon ... though, she did need to make a stronger statement pointing out his homophobia.

    Gordon's Hell's Kitchen would not exist without the lesbian contestant's ... they're the only reason people watch.

    anna's picture

    aca and tt

    to be honest, tracy grimshaw's not really a real journalist... a current affair and today tonight (its rival on another channel) are basically the lowest of the low, are extremely racist programs, and their main content is like, "neighbour from hell" or "tenant from hell" or "[lebanese/asian/immigrant] man caught selling off meat" etc etc you get the picture. actually today tonight was responsible for all the "outrage" over the lesbian kiss between charlie and joey on home and away a few months ago.

    so really while what he said is horrible and sexist and everything you already mentioned, and while her being a fake-journo can by no means validate or justify what he said, i'm not that bothered, personally. i might be if only they reported something important or true.

    Brutal_Romance's picture

    uncalled for

    i did find Ramsay entertaining on some levels in the past, but I'm not sure if I can say that about him anymore.

    I realize Grimshaw is not the best reporter out there, actually I dont think i should even call her that, but Ramsay, dude, that was a little too much.

    He always had gay contestants on his show and from my point of view, didnt seem descriminating toward them because of their sexual orientation. wonder why he attempted a stupid mistake by calling her a lesbian? he should have settled with 'pig' or something.

     

    GreenBean2's picture

    Ugh

    Gordon is just rude full stop. He himself isn't entertaining at all. You can get anyone to be shouty and sweary at people and if needs be fling in a british accent.

    He's a tit and not the good kind.

    BeccaB's picture

    He's an idiot anyway...

    I find Gordon Ramsey obnoxious anyway, it makes no odds to me if he's just being offensive anyway or using the word 'lesbian' to be offensive...he should be no more famous than any other TV chef, but has achieved superstardom by swearing...not someone I expect much from anyway...

    I am interested in the used of 'lesbian' and 'gay' as offensive terms though, in society generally...for example in a recent episode of 'Gok's Fashion Fix', stylist Gok Wan told Janet Street Porter if she wore flat shoes she would look like a lesbian - as though that was a bad thing. Since Gok's gay and it was meant light-heartedly, I'm not offended, but it did make me think of the way 'lesbian' is so often seen to be a negative term...and it seems to be used that way more and more frequently, especially amongst teenagers I know...shouldn't that be changing in this day and age? If religion or race were used as derogatory terms, everyone would be up in arms, but apparently sexuality is still fair game...makes me angry...

    I never listen to things they say, cos what you hear gets in your way (Joan Jett)

    Painted_Jezebel's picture

    Hmm...

    Grimshaw is a terrible journalist, who should really, really stop cramming hyper packaged angry neighbour, barking dog and incompetant-town-council stories down our throats, but that's got nothing to do with being or not being gay or ugly, she's just awful at her job. I'm not going to defend her on a professional level, but I would have thought the best way to deal with the situation would be not to mention it in any way, shape or form, not "take him on".

    There are so many things she does he could have chosen to attack her for, ACA makes fun of itself, why would he bother with slurs to her looks and implying she was gay, (as if that had anything to do with anything.

    Lowell's picture

    i'm sure the prodcuers put her up to

    "bringing him on," thinking that it would increase ratings. she also probably denied the lesbian thing in order to give herslef more credibiltiy in saying he's unattractive, but...this whole thing is really juvenile.

    i would've said that ramsey is just upset because he can't have me and leave it at that. 

     

    TheLadyInRed's picture

    Aussie PM has a say

    So breaking news is that our Prime minister Kevin Rudd AND deputy PM Julia Gillard have both made public statements supporting Grimshaw. As you do when you're supposed to be running the country. Since when do political leaders weigh in on celebrity feuds?

    canuckuncos's picture

    I'm not surprised simply

    I'm not surprised simply because it is Gordon, however I am surprised because he guests on Ellen a fair amount and seems to adore her.  Too bad.
    thursday's picture

    Well now K-Rudd's pissed

    Well now K-Rudd's pissed his wife was photographed at the gym, and 2 days ago he was outraged at The Chaser, so let's just forget what he thinks and be thankful that that's all he has to worry about right now (or maybe we should be worried???...whatevs..off topic)

    In my opinion, no one in Australia really gives a shit about Tracy Grimshaw...to me she's always just been another sensationalist 'journalism' nightly tv reporter - if you want that kind of crap, you watch A Current Affair, if not, you don't. Beyond that, I've never really heard anyone have that strong an opinion of her...not because she's not a pointless tv personality but merely because she's hardly worthy of anyone's brain space.

    My point is - beyond that her existence is pointless - that I don't know why Ramsay chose to have a dig at her. His interview with her seemed to go his way and got him the publicity he wanted so I don't really know why he decided to attack her. All I can assume is that, like others said, maybe she wasn't receptive to him after the interview, or that he thought it'd be funny but didn't really get that Grimshaw isn't quite the collective joke that Naomi Robson was, and that putting her in that light wouldn't go down too well.

    At the end of it all, it is quite a ridiculous fight for two adults to be having on national television. Personally, I think Grimshaw should've just ignored it, but I also understand that if I were her, I might feel the need to say something. I don't know why she had to clarify that she's not a lesbian though...surely her initial comment would have been sufficient?

    123's picture

    I do agree with you on what

    I do agree with you on what you said about 'A Current Affair'. The chk chk boom girl 'repenting' for her lies and getting a free makeover after her racial slurs and lying on nation tv doesn't warrant the label of 'current affairs'.

    But Ramsay did not 'attack' her - I was there. It wasn't like that at all - everyone in the audience was laughing and they knew it was a joke. I guess it's just a different story when the joke's on you.

    By the same token, why don't we just all keep comedians and late night show hosts tight-lipped? Don't they make a living insulting celebrities and public figures?

    Anyways, it's not like people walked out of the showing gasping with revelatory shock that Grimshaw might be a lesbian or that she wasn't so aesthetically pleasing (even though he DID NOT call her a lesbian)

    Llewella's picture

    Ok someone needs to set the

    Ok someone needs to set the record straight here. I am an Australian and know of this whole debacle. What people are failing to "report" with absolute outrage is that Tracey Grimshaw is a lesbian, and has put herself back in the closet fearing what it would do to her public image, as if the chasers haven't already ruined her, she has now done it to herself. I could not believe it came out of her mouth when she denied it!!! Everyone who has ever worked at channel nine know of how she was in a relationship with Deborah Hutton, and subsequent WOMEN. So whatever Gordan Ramsay said and did, meh, that is what made him famous, I find her actions far worse. Shame on YOU Tracey, I didn't know it was so awful to apparently be a lesbian, my bad.

     

    aussie_songbook's picture

    wow, that is a little too

    wow, that is a little too harsh imo. whether she's gay / straight / bi / anything else, it's no one's business but hers. no one has the right to judge her or critise her for not coming out (assuming she is gay) - there are a multitude of reasons for staying in the closet, or at least not making a nation-wide declaration about her homosexuality / bisexuality. her staying in the closet isn't her saying that it's awful to be  lesbian, it's just saying that coming out isn't right for her at this point in her life.

    would it be different if she was homophobic, or attacked the gay community? perhaps. but she has never (to my knowledge) been anything other than supportive of the gay community in this country, evidenced in her statement on a current affair tonight (to paraphrase: she wasn't insulted with being called gay, the homosexuality of her friends is as important as her heterosexuality is to them [i.e not at all], the only reason she addressed the 'lesbian' part of ramsay's slur was to highlight that it was hypocritical of him to attack her personal life when she was expressly forbidden from discussing his private life in the interview.)

    but whatever. the whole thing is (hopefully) over now.

    Llewella's picture

    Yeah I admit I was harsh,

    Yeah I admit I was harsh, but the subject got me pretty mad. I completely agree that her sexuality is her own business, and I didn't mean to say that she should all of a sudden declare to the world on National television that she is gay, but she DEFINITELY DIDN'T need to say that she DEFINITELY ISN'T gay, She didn't need to deny it or prove it. If he was saying it as an insult then it's like saying to comeone who calls you a dick, that you aren't actually a human sized penis walking around, sort of taken for granted. Again I am being harsh and overthetop because she was clearly so paranoid at being "outed" or whatever that she claimed heterosexuality. Boo.

    And yeah it's over now, he apologised, and articles are coming out that is was all a clever concoction of channel nine to boost the ratings of ACA and his shows, well done them, I will still never watch her crap and still would rather listen to a stupid man get really angry about over cooked spagetti. 

    scorpio54's picture

    Denial

    In the press here in the UK, Ramsay is denying he ever used the word 'lesbian'. Was his diatribe on tape, or is this a 'he said, she said' thing?
    123's picture

    He said she said thing! I

    He said she said thing! I was there... he never said lesbian once. Don't believe the hype. It's just another story and people just can't help fueling controversy.
    lucigray's picture

    Ok, so I'm not saying its a

    Ok, so I'm not saying its a good thing to deny your sexuality, but to say 'shame on you' I think is a bit harsh. How do we know what her reasons are for her denial? (I'm taking your word taht she is a lesbian). There might be really good reasons for it, its unfair to judge her. Maybe she's jsut scared for whatever reason.
    Lowell's picture

    ignore him and he will go away

    anyone can say obnoxious things; too bad ramsey doesn't realize that it doesn't make him special. 
    Tofu Delight's picture

    I'm really suprised

    Ramsey may seem like an asshole on his shows, but that's because he expects a lot from others. He demands the best out of people. I've seen some interviews and small clips of him outside the show and he's a really good guy. He's extremely charming and funny. I'm shocked by what happened. 

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    helen stewart is my governor's picture

    grrrrrrrrr!!

    what a fool that man is!! it amazes me that he is still getting air time the way he behaves and belittles people. and his swearing on air is over the top! arrrrrr.

    but good on tracey for having a bite back....what he said was hurtful and uncalled for. she's a well respected journalist here and after this serve from gordon she has received mountains of support from the public.

    and as for her being a lesbian...well thats something i've wondered about her for a while....guess my gaydar was wrong, again!!

    123's picture

    I was at his show went he

    I was at his show went he made those comments in the Good Food and Wine show in Melbourne.
     
    For the record he did not call her a lesbian, and so he cannot have possibly used sexual orientation as an insult.
     
    This thing has been completely BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. I've seen the clips of the show that they've shown on TV, and its been completely edited to make him look like an ass. Don't fall for all the media hype surrounding this. I must admit this is the first time I've actually witnessed a case of video editing used to turn shit around. And that photo of a person on all fours with multiple breasts - he was talking about his plane being delayed because there were some people on his flight who weren't feeling well, and then he said: he looked over and saw that woman (multiple breasts lady) which was a joke referring to the swine flu, i.e. a pig. The photo wasn't an 'image' of Grimshaw - he did later go on to say that it was, but it was just a passing comment - a bad joke he said under his breath.
     
    This whole thing is ridiculous - the deputy and prime minister have even released personal statements condemning Ramsay over a personal feud. There are so many other pressing issues here like the recent racist attacks, but yet, no official statements on that. Instead of using her prime time airtime to 'put Ramsay in his place', Grimshaw could have used her emotive, powerful speech skills to address more crucial issues that have been effecting the state, rather than utlitising it to soothe ego.
     
    And Ramsay isn't a sexist either - just look at how he's help Angela Hartnett's chef career.
     
    Can you believe this ramsay vs. grimshaw thing made front page news when there's minority groups getting brutally attacked on the grounds of racism?  A little perspective is in order.  And don't print stuff after having done research solely on the hype of media attention. 
    KiwiGirl1974's picture

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    Ramsey isn't "a sexist"?? ... if your a women, you need to check yourself!

    But then - as you have just joined '123' and won't say your own sexual orientation in your profile, I'm suspecting your a guy or a straight person trying to justify this on behalf of Gordon Ramsey.

    Llewella's picture

    I think you should check

    I think you should check yourself KiwiGirl. If you think that "Woman" means that everyone has the same opinion or that is some sort of unanimous group then you need to check yourself. Woman is a complicated and differing group of people who have different views, and don't automatically agree with each other. I don't think he is sexist as he is just as rude to everyone, men women gay straight transgendered pig cow sheep, they are all just the same to him; A platform for him to build his fame. 

    And in case you were wondering I am not a man, and I joined this website a long time ago, and am bisexual. So we're clear. 

    Lauren's picture

    This. I think he is just an

    This. I think he is just an asshole to every one. I don't know how people watch that show with him yelling and belittling EVERY ONE.