In a recent interview with Germany’s version of In Touch magazine, lesbian singer Beth Ditto revealed how she came to the conclusion that she was gay, dishes about her possibly gay ex-boyfriend, and discusses her insecurities about her weight.

Caveat: I've been told that the interview in In Touch is somewhat garbled. It is most likely a German translation of an interview with Ditto in English. The following is an attempt by a native German speaker and me to translate the garbled German back into English. (We also have a bad case of food coma, so please bear with us.)
In Touch: What do you have to say about people being intimidated by you?
Beth Ditto: I haven't noticed that yet. But I think that many people may be afraid of me. Maybe they're intimidated, because I am a lesbian. Most men are scared by that.
IT: When did you know that you liked women?
BD: I wasn't sure until I was 15. I started hating my friends' boyfriends and was jealous of them. Then I knew that I couldn't be with men.

IT: Have you ever been with a guy?
BD: Yes, at school I had a steady boyfriend for three years. We broke up at least three times, because somehow I always knew that I liked girls. Fortunately he was very understanding, but I was sort of just dating him because I thought he was gay. [laughing]
IT: Were you afraid of coming out?
BD: No, I always thought it would go well. The problems with my coming out started much later. I don't want to be labeled as such, but I've been suffering from depression.
IT: Why so?
BD: I'm just not pleased with my looks, especially my weight. I'm 157 centimeters (5'2") but I weigh 110 kilos (242 lbs).
IT: Were you made fun of due to your weight?
BD: Well, I was never mocked, and I was always able to defend myself by joking around. But sometimes it has been painful and it has hurt my feelings.

IT: How did you cope with that?
BD: I just didn't let it show. I was always cheerful. That's the way we fat people are. If we were not grinning all the time, then we would probably be totally frustrated. [laughing]
IT: Would you ever consider going on a diet?
BD: Well I have been contemplating as to whether I should go on a diet. I cannot ignore the whole world, but I want to accept the way that I am and I don't want to change. Life is too short for that! [laughs]
The websites that have picked up this story have focused on her comments about her weight, which, sadly, isn’t surprising. See, for example, “Beth Ditto concedes she must lose weight.”
"Concede”? To whom is Beth Ditto "conceding" that she should lose weight? The public? The forces behind Trimspa? Vogue? Oh wait, I don’t think so.

Beth Ditto is plus-sized. OK, we get that. But since no one is affected by her weight except herself, it was a bit presumptuous to assume that commenting about her own insecurities about her weight was a concession to anyone.
As Ditto said, “Life is too short for that.”
She was absolutely hilarious
She was absolutely hilarious on The Friday Night project & She's gorgeous, I just love herr.
I heard that on a... well...
Obese vs. overweight
Well, according to the BMI, she's obese (she has a BMI of 44.6). And if you're obese, you DO need to lose some weight (for health reasons). Some people might jump on me for this, but I would think that at her weight (considering her height, and the fact that it doesn't appear that she's muscular, but rather fat) she's at risk for having some serious health problem.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with being a little pudgy (I know that I am), but there is a difference between simply being overweight and obese. If you're obese, you NEED to lose weight for your health. If you're simply overweight, you might be totally healthy, but I can't imagine that anyone could be obese and be in 'perfect shape' (or anywhere near it).
BMI
The whole BMI thing is also a load of bullshit.
Kate Harding, who's a well-known fat acceptance blogger, has a really good post debunking myths here - http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/
She's also curated a visual display of what different BMIs actually look like here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/77367764@N00/sets/72157602199008819/
It's worth a look before you make assumptions about a person's health based purely on BMI.
Yes, BMI isn't perfect
It obviously shouldn't be used as the 'be all to end all' in deciding if someone is a healthy weight or not. It's unable to tell the difference between fat and muscle, which obviously makes a huge difference in whether or not an individual is at risk for serious health problems. But I feel confident in saying that Ditto is obese. From numerous pics that I've seen of her, she certainly doesn't look like she's got the body of a bodybuilder (ie, it's not that she's solid muscle, but rather has excessive amount of fat on her body).
I don't say any of this to be mean in any way, but out of concern. She is more than likely very unhealthy because of her weight. Granted, there are always outliers...so who knows, she might have much better cholesterol levels than me....a lower resting heart rate....low blood pressure....etc, BUT...it's far more likely that she's on her way to having serious health problems if she doesn't lose some weight.
I have a dear aunt who is obese, and I've seen the toll that it's taken on her health over the years. While I certainly don't think that women should look like sticks, it's also just as unhealthy to be obese. And again, there's a HUGE difference in simply being overweight and actually being obese.
According to the BMI, Beth
According to the BMI, Beth Ditto is obese. But all that shows is a certain ratio between height and weight that puts her in a specific category.
Your aunt's obesity may have been related to her healthy. She might have not eaten well or exercised. That doesn't mean Beth doesn't.
Here's a more positive statement about body image from Beth: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/nov/23/gender.uk1
Healthy eating and weight
Underlying medical condition
hmm..
Well it's true... as monica_ca said she's obese.. overweight is a BMI over 25; 30 or higher is obesity. She is quite short and 242lbs is a lot for a frame of 5'2". But if she's "happy" with herself, that is important. I used to be chubby and it was hard... it's just baby steps to lose weight. It shouldn't be considered "dieting" it should be considered a life change... eating healthier; working out, like doing cardio; plus excersing helps you relax. :)
Although being overtly skinny is just as unhealthy as being obese. And it is good to splurge every now and then... like she said life is too short. But you don't wanna make it even shorter by being obese or overtly skinny...
"Were I receptive to such proposition, it would first require a full booty check, and if you were to pass muster, baby I'd give it to you family style"-Peggy Peabody
Beth Ditto>>
When you guys said "her possibly gay ex-boyfiend," I thought you guys were talking abuout Freddie! I was like, 'Noooo!!! Freddie and Beth broke up?!!!'
*whew* Thank Rock n' Roll Jesus!
Thought the exact same thing
I completely agree!!!!
Even the Great Monique has taken a step in the right direction with focusing on health. It's not about NOT being Big and Beautiful...it's about being Healthy and not at risk for so many things. She's a cutie... but studies show that she'll live longer if her body weight goes down.
Tangent...
Weighty issues
Ok, you may all stone me.
I think it is applaudable to finally have a spokesperson for the non too skinny and a very vocalized one at that.
So far, I have seen Beth Ditto as that spokesperson, and a great musician, out Lesbian etc.
But until this article, I've never read just how tall she is and how much she weighs.
That sort of weight is not fashionable, it's not cool, or just unhealthy, it is outright dangerous.
And I think that it does send the wrong message out there, to state, that she is not even considering a diet.
I have had a friend for many years, with a weight indey similar to this..and it is a bitch watching her be continually in more pain as her joints give out.
Life expectancy isn't that great,either.
It's like portraying a rock star with a cigarette and applauding his independence.
Now, if Beth would consider a diet, and loose, say 50 pounds, she would still be anything but petite, and far from an ideal or even "normal" weight (BMI stats), but she would do herself one hell of a favor.And her fans with eating disorders, who are taking her cue and not even willing to work on their condition (and yes, stone me,but that's what it is, anorexia isn't the only disorder involving food out there) would definitely profit from a healthier approach to fat and beautiful, which I do embrace, btw...
Amen!!
true story...
causality and clarity
Part of that might be due to people saying that fat people shouldn't be happy. There's absolutely no reason why fat people can't be happy - part of it's confidence, a lot of it's acceptance, and then there's standing up to a society that judges you and if you have depression, getting treatment for it.
Seriously, I think what you're trying to say is that fat people should be too disgusted with themselves to be happy. Can you define what you consider "pulling off" a voluptuous figure? Or why fat people can't be happy?
Depression is generally chemical or situational. If it's chemical, losing weight doesn't change your serotonin levels. If it's situational, it may be due to bullying (such as people telling you you're unattractive and not awesome), seasonal affective disorder, stressful situations, relationships and a whole host of other things that are not weight. Telling yourself that you can't be happy until you lose weight is frankly, a waste of time and energy that you could use for much better things.
Depression
I'm seen ZERO research to suggest that major depressive disorder (or even dysthymia) is EITHER chemical OR situational. In actuality, the diathesis stress model would suggest that it would most likely be a combination of the two. Also, not all anti-depressants mess with serotonin, suggesting that serotonin is not the only chemical related to depression. And research also suggests that our brains basically 'change' based off of our experiences...meaning that it IS possible for situational changes in our lives to change our brain chemistry...meaning that it IS possible for an individual to lose weight and then experience a change in serotonin level.
Also (and perhaps I just completely misunderstood the poster that you're replying to), but I don't think that she was trying to imply that fat people should be disgusted with themselves, or anything even remotely close to that. I would definitely label myself as fat, and I was in no way offended by what she said. Again, perhaps I'm just misunderstanding her.
good point
I like what you wrote about depression, good rebuttal. It always bothers me when people COMPLETELY misunderstand the entire 'chemical imbalance' part of depression that we see in commercials for zoloft or whatever and they think that depression just starts out of nowhere everytime and can never be cured without medication. Being overweight and obese in studies are closely linked to depression but they are like, the chicken and the egg, which comes first? Many psychologist agree that a lifestyle change can be a more surefire end to depression than medication, which isn't proven to always remove depressed feelings... therefore always assume that its situational and if that doesn't help resort to medication.
I am a little bothered by the 'life's too short' part, because everyone on tv that is obese and trying to lose weight is saying the exact same thing, life's too short to keep living this way...
I wonder if her depression and desire to not even bother losing weight are related. I'm 5'2 and when I used to weight 120 I felt sluggish, I can't imagine weighing 230 or 245 or whatever. But to each her own. If that's her decision that's fine. At least she isn't telling young people to smoke crack.. she isn't even telling young people to not lose weight, or is she? Regardless she promotes self acceptance and bravery, totally cool.
accidental double post
Thanks, internet.
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"i think anyone that is that overweight can't be happy"
That is a seriously offensive comment!!!!
Research based around weight related risk of disease is complicated and cannot be assessed solely on how heavy a person is.
Crash diets, and eating disorders are more dangerous that being over weight.
Beth has a really successful career and is open and out about who she is, why wouldn't she be happy. Her music is amazing.
Why should her weight make her unhappy?
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Um...actually the idea that all eating disorders leave the patient underweight is incorrect. For example, in the DSM-IV-TR there is the 'binge eating disorder' which would more than likely result in the sufferer being overweight.
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Binge eating disorder MAY result in the person being over weight. True.
But the actual state of being over weight is not automatically unhealthy. THe binge eating disorder classification emphasizes, how a person feels about their eating behaviour, his/her percetions on how society views his/her behaviour and whether these views are negatively affecting his/her life. This disorder is not based purely on a state of "being over weight".
Not all people who are over weight or obese have a binge eating disorder.
I stand by my statement that eating disorders (including binge eating) are more dangerous than "being over weight" eating disorders are often accompanied by severe depression.
Many people believe that eating disorders in part are caused by society's obsession with the concept that thin = attractive and attractive = good. Which is reinforced by comments which were made earlier which implied that people who are overweight or obese couldn't be happy (or even to the extent shouldn't be happy).
Although this is not the only reason people develop eating disorders it is a factor.
Maybe we could invest in creating a culture that is not so quick to discriminate against others.
that's nice to know
Beth
Beth Ditto acknowledges her unhappiness with her weight. It's wonderful that she wants to make changes to live a longer, healthier life. That said, regardless of her size, she is stunningly beautiful.
I'm not sure if I trust the
I'm not sure if I trust the German article. Talking about being unhappy with her looks and weight doesn't really sound like Beth to me.
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from everything ive read about her and all her interviews, idk that the 'german version of in touch' that was admittedly 'garbled' to begin with should be taken so srsly
gotta agree with you on that
gotta agree with you on that one. That article sounded like anything but something out of Ditto.
Seriously, folks?
Beth Ditto fucking rocks, but there's a lot that bothers me about how she gets represented in the media, and this article and the comments exemplify that.
First of all, I don't really trust this article. The translation's rusty, and it just doesn't jive with what Beth's said in previous articles. In fact, it's a complete 180. It's almost what the media wants her to say - that she's depressed, self-conscious, unhealthy and unhappy with her body instead of being hot,happy and confident, which is how she normally comes across in the article. Things might have gotten lost, or even twisted in translation, and I don't buy it.
Secondly, NONE of us have the right to make any judgements or assumptions about her health. Only Beth and her doctor know how healthy she is. Just as it's unfair to accuse famous people of having an eating disorder that makes them thin based on how they appear on camera, it's unfair of us (and who are we, again?) to assume that because Beth is fat, that she has a health problem.
Thirdly, fat does not equal unhealthy. There's a lot of writing on this, from books to online. I'll link to this great link post again - http://kateharding.net/faq/but-dont-you-realize-fat-is-unhealthy/ Exercise and healthy eating do different things to different bodies. Not all healthy people are thin or look a certain way. You can be 'overweight' and still eat right and live an active lifestyle.
Fourthly, Beth Ditto is not an anomaly or a special case. There's tons of awesome fat women out there. Some are confident. Some are not, and this probably has to do with this lovely culture of ours that assumes that healthy = thin and that attractive = thin. Some fat girls are snappy dressers - check out fatshionista.com for more info and pics on that. Beth Ditto is not the only awesome, well-dressed, confident and talented fat chick out there - she just happens to be famous, and I believe she deserves all the good things coming her way.
It really ticks me off when it seems like people 'tolerate' Beth's fatness or treat her like she's this rarity - that she shouldn't act as confident as she is. THAT's why she's rebellious - because she's confident, not because she's fat. This article really seems to contradict everything else she's put forward in the media, and I don't understand why, if she'd dealt with these major issues (as many people have - depression, fat hatred and being closeted are all very rough things and nothing to sneeze at), she wouldn't reveal it in a more reputable magazine that publishes in the language the interview it was conducted in.
Beth shouldn't be thought of as an exception to whatever stereotypes people may have about fat folks. Because she's in the spotlight, she's managed to befriend many people who have otherwise voiced negative opinions about fat people, like Karl Lagerfeld.
She shouldn't be considered a special case in terms of being in the public eye. I'm hoping that she's opening doors for other fat chicks in the media.
I'm going to assume that everyone else who's commented is a fan of Beth. Assuming she's unhealthy based on finally discovering her height and weight (which both have been published before) isn't our job. And would any of you fans say this if the stats hadn't been accompanied by an article claiming she's 'ready to lose weight?'
But fat and obese are not the same thing
this is a pop culture website...
Secondly, NONE of us have the right to make any judgements or assumptions about her health. Only Beth and her doctor know how healthy she is. Just as it's unfair to accuse famous people of having an eating disorder that makes them thin based on how they appear on camera, it's unfair of us (and who are we, again?) to assume that because Beth is fat, that she has a health problem.
we talk about the private lives and personal stuff of many celebrities when its not our business all the time! This is afterellen.com! hellooo!! :) We are the nosey, assuming readers!
Speaking of Weight Issues And Beth Ditto.
This article reminded me of an Oprah Episode that was aired on Friday w/ the comedian Mo'Nique. Oprah addressed w/ Mo' how her fans were upset that she lost weight. Mo'Nque pretty much asked her fans if they wanted to see her alive or dead? She was obese. She must have encountered health problems and had to face reality to shed some pounds. Plus obese are at high risk of stroke, high blood pressure, diabetes,etc. It's awful. I know b/c I have realives who are overweight and have been hit with one or more of these problems and they are quite ill. Being signifcantly overweight like Beth Ditto is no fun in games when it comes to her health and life. She can shed some pounds and still be curvy.
Recently at a concert in Little Rock and the press pointed out one of her cousins noted how she looked in a certain outfit in a not so good compliment.
So if Beth ditto wants to lose weight, I'm behind her and she will not lose a fan-me. B.D. knows wants best for her.
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i love beth ! shes pretty
i love beth ! shes pretty darn cool !
and she's a great example of how you can be big and beautiful :) so much talent <3
beth ditto
nobody is saying it`s
nobody is saying it`s impossible to be obese and healthy, but, if a person runs/bikes/kayaks/swims/hikes/lifts weights/whatever for at least 30 minutes every day, and not just every day for a week, or a month (unless they have the flu or something), and if a person eats mostly vegetables, fruites, whole grains, nuts and beans, then it is very unlikely for them to end up being obese.
Sure, not all thin people eat that way, and exercise, but that makes those thin people unhealthy too.
it isn't about whether or not somebody that big can be beautiful, of course they can! It's about exercising consistently as part of one's life, and eating healthy food before unhealthy food.
Beth Ditto is lucky to be fat
Actually...
That's kinda ignorant. There's more of a correlation between poverty and obesity rather than wealth and obesity(at least in America). The idea of the upper/middle class person sitting on their asses enjoying luxeries thus becoming overweight is outdated.
It is more so the person living in a poor neighboorhood that has fast food for days and not a fresh fruit in site. Or the neighborhoods with the markets that don't mind keeping prices higher for you, so they can lower prices in wealthier neighboorhoods. I don't know about the rest of you, but that's how gets in my city. May not be a universal truth, but it's a truth indeed.
Either way, let's not judge. It's really not a good look at all.
I'd Still Do Her
When is Beth Ditto going to be interviewed on AE? Unless I totally missed that article?
I think Beth is perfect the way she is. She's totally hot! Going on a diet or losing weight might be a good idea. And that's purly selfish on my part, cos I'd like to see her performing for decades to come. I'd hate for her to bust a Mama Cass.
btw...
All the preaching on here is gag worthy to be honest. Yes, BMI this, dropping pounds that. For the 493,071 time, we get it already. She has her own doctor to consult and so do I and most other fat people.
As far as I've heard, she's otherwise fat and happy, so am I. I'm like 1 inch taller than her and a good few pounds heavier than her. Do I care if it's fashionable? No.
I'm just living my life. Still going to school, running my GSA, getting sauced with friends, going to the vill with speakers and shaking my ass. The shit normal people do, and loving my life in the process, be it short or not.
What am I gonna do about my weight "problem"? That's between me and my doctor. If I do nothing, what is it to you? If she does nothing what is it to you?