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"Vogue" creates controversy with Annie Leibovitz cover shot

I want you to look at this Vogue cover and tell me what you see. LeBron James and Gisele Bundchen? An athlete and a model? King Kong and Faye Wray? If you answered the latter, you're not alone. The April cover of Vogue magazine has been stirring up controversy and cries of racism since it was unveiled two weeks ago.

The protests started, as so many do these days, on the internet, with bloggers pointing out the similarities between Annie Leibovitz's shot of the two superstars and the iconic imagery of King Kong. Take a look at the poster for the 1933 classic and judge for yourself:

The similarities are hard to deny. But more importantly, the symbolism is deeply troubling. Anyone familiar with our country's terrible history of racism knows the despicable propaganda that once painted black men as frightening, ape-like brutes out to defile the purity of white women. Whether intended or not, this photo hearkens back to that ugly and unconscionable ideology.

Since the cover came out, the controversy has exploded across the blogosphere and mainstream press. It's racist! You're racist for noticing it! King Kong is overrated! Fine, maybe not the last one. The debate has completely overshadowed the now-ironic fact that LeBron is the first black man (not to mention third man, period) to grace the cover of Vogue.

When I first saw the photo, I thought it was odd but couldn't put my finger on exactly why. His open mouth, the clutching of Gisele — it just seemed off. This is a fashion magazine, right? But once I saw the side-by-sides, it turned my stomach. I have the utmost respect for Annie's work, but what the hell was she thinking? For now, we don't know — she hasn't commented. If her past work is precedent, we know she has a penchant for recreating other historical artwork in her images.

Which is all fine, but not a single editor at Vogue noticed the parallels and asked questions before it hit the press? Look, art is art, and I have no problems with people expressing themselves through their work. But once it's out there, you have to also own up to the issues and baggage your creations unleash.

So, what do you think? Reprehensible racist imagery or just so much hoopla?

cosmiccowgirl's picture

Not only racist

I'd just like to point out that these images are not only racist, but also very sexist, because they glamorize the idea of women as victims.
MsWoo's picture

I don't see how...

She does not look victimized of anything... aside from being in a career that forces her to starve herself down to next to nothing.
SallySeton's picture

Undeniably reprehensible racist imagery

But it isn't surprising. Honestly, Annie Liebovitz has a penchant for unquestioningly recreating iconic images. What a bore. And this time it's an offensive bore. Do something original. And if you insist on merely reinventing old things, at least use your senses critically and give some damn thought to which images you want to recreate and why and what they might mean or reflect in today's discourses.

 

MsWoo's picture

Originality

I liked it though when she made the Queen look like George Washington:

 

 

but then... nature sort of helped in that.

sc girl's picture

Elizabeth (George)

I hate to tell you this, but that background was dropped in digitally. No one's that f******g good! OK.....maybe Diane Arbus...no digital...she printed her own work...Cindy Sherman.....Ansel Adams...these are true masters...not this crap!!!!

Check out the making of this photo shoot (Monarchy - Annie Liebovitz) at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcnPicsZ6-A

MsWoo's picture

By nature I mean...

I mean that nature made Elizabeth look like George. I was not referring to the background. I look forward to checking out that link. Thanks :D
my007's picture

hehehe

thanx for inserting some humor in this humorless debate ...

And I agree with the people that say the racist accusation is an overreaction. Let's try to deal with racism where it matters and where it is indisputable ... Because if we go in this direction where is the end? Accusing the filmmakers of racism because the villains are always Arabs or Russians or Serbs? Accusing Woody Allen of sexism because he always paired himself with much younger and much more beautiful women ... (although I can come up with some other accusations against Woody :)?

keila's picture

If you're going to look, really LOOK.

He's not clutching her, nor is she gasping in horror at him. Their bodies are being showcased in each of their arenas.

Similarities? Yes. Enough to ruffle feathers and get attention, whether intended or not. Is this not the ultimate goal of commercialism and advertising: to get into the heads of people and therefore proving to be a success?

caroL_br's picture

Well said!

I couldn't agree more!! 

mitchstokes225's picture

I have to agree...

I have to agree here with Sheila.  If you don't create something that is catching whether it's good or bad, you haven't done your job.  I see the similarities once it's pointed out. But I didn't get there all on my own.  Nor once I was there did I still feel that it was any controversy.  I think people overreact but I guess that's the point, to sell issues.  Any press is good press.
sarrit's picture

completely agree!

 

i think it's just one of those things that might look racist but is'nt necessarily so.

and since this is Vogue, i belive a lot of people were at the shoot,surely some of them were black and yet were not offended by this image

thea nicholls's picture

Absolutely

I agree. I'd also like to say that she doesn't look much a victim either - she's practically grinning! I think you've read too much into it. In my view it's a stunning image and does what it's intended to do - attract attention to the magazine.
JHB's picture

I Also Agree

100% with sheila
ragemorejacko's picture

Thank you, that's exactly

Thank you, that's exactly how I saw it.
Hey_You's picture

exactly

i completely agree with what sheila said

we also have to remember...intended or not...controversy sells

Clonchi's picture

YES

I saw this picture a while ago but didn't think much of it... I thought it looked weird, but my mind didn't necessarily jump to "racism".

I like Annie's work, but, really, aren't there enough problems in the world to be worrying about this????

 

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sirdykesalot's picture

I completely agree.

I completely agree.
Harpy's picture

I don't see it

I mean, I see where you're coming from, but I just don't see it as racist.  I don't see it displaying a woman as a victim either.  King Kong -- Sure, but this cover?  Nah.

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netgirl1983's picture

I agree

When I first saw the title and then saw the picture I was like "meh, what's so controversial about that?"

Or maybe I just live in the fantasy world where everything is perfect 

 

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molas's picture

Not racist

Controversial, yes.  Racist, I don't think so.  LeBron James could laugh all way to the bank if he wants too.  That man gets paid a whole heap of money.  He's good at what he does.  He's fierce.  And that's represented in the photos.  You don't see George Clooney up there with his mouth open and his muscles all flexed because that's not what he does.  George Clooney is good at (and known for) being charming, smiley and suave and that's how he's often portrayed and represented.  But fierce?  Only if you would count his dorky motorcycle get-up.  But in a basketball jersey and stance, George would look silly.  But LeBron doesn't.  He's got the muscles and the attitude.  So the photo could be vaguely hinting at a King Kong tribute.  So what?  King Kong was fierce.  If we have to make too much of the parallel with King Kong, then I'd say it's more fair to look at King Kong's fierceness, strength and power (because that's what he's known for) rather than the fact that he was a monkey (because so is curious George but the two aren't equivalent), if that's where the racist discomfort lies.

Now if it had been Colin Powell or Denzel Washington in a basketball outfit and a fierce, open-mouth stance, that would be off and worrisome.  But not for a basketball player, no matter what color he is. 

cleverasabelle's picture

I couldn't agree more.

I definitely don't see it as racist. I think it's showcasing them both doing what they do best. He IS a fierce competitor, when he's on the court he's intense and fired up and that kind of energy is what makes a good photo. If he were a doctor, or known for being a quiet, shy, introverted actor or poet or whatever and he were put in that position, then yeah, I can see where people would call foul. (No pun intended) But as it stands? With him being known for his flash and his intense, enthusiastic personality? Not at all.

And as far as Gisele goes, in no way, shape or form do I see any of the pictures involved portraying her as a victim. That's laughable. I don't know that I've seen a more confident, carefree image of her recently. She's at the top of her game, she calls her own shots, I don't see "victim" when I look at her.

There's just been way too much hoopla over this.

carolinagrrrl's picture

couldn't have said it better.

When I first saw the photo, I thought it was odd but couldn't put my finger on exactly why. His open mouth, the clutching of Gisele — it just seemed off. This is a fashion magazine, right? But once I saw the side-by-sides, it turned my stomach.

 

My reaction, exactly. I highly doubt that Annie did this on accident. She is too intelligent of a woman and too aware of the power of imagry to NOT have been aware of what she was doing at the time. Now, I can only wait for her response to all the talk to uncover her motivation.

 

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Maritza624's picture

Nice pic

I like this cover, and I guess if racism is what is in the observer's mind, then racism is what he or she will see.

 

SallySeton's picture

Oh, puh-leaze

Yes, I think about racism all the time so I like to imagine it's all around. Nothing gives me greater pleasure than to read racism into perfectly innocent things. Racism isn't created by racists, it's created by people like me who have racism in our minds </sarcasm>

I see racism because it is there. Annie Liebovitz is a photographer who models everything after old images. Why is Lebron screaming and looking so wild? Why is he posed just like the traditional Kong poses? Don't you think using a black man in place of an ape-like monster is problematic? Why is he clutching the woman? The image of the white woman being accosted by the exotic beast/hypersexualized black man has a long history in the Western racist/imperialist imagination. If Liebovitz really doesn't know that history behind the image, she's as guilty of ignorance as she would be of purposeful racism.

There is a noticeable change, in that Gizelle in this image, the woman conquest, isn't horrified, she is apparently happy to be held. But the casting of a black athlete to be a place holder for a physical, dark beast, and of a white waife to hold the place of his traditional white prey is no accident. It plays on years of racist fears and racial and sexist stereotypes. That's what makes it racist. Not my imagination.

judeliao's picture

Giselle's smile

I can't quite articulate it now, but I think bell hook has given some explanation in her book somewhere.

For now, I will say that stereotypical hypermasculinity of black men and commodification of black physicality will have something to do with the smile.

Think about this. How do people usually characterize those sport "groupies"? They love to have affirs with the athletes. No, they are not afraid.

I'm not saying Giselle's protrayed as a goupie here, but I'm just saying there are something to be said about.

glwtta's picture

"The image of the white

"The image of the white woman being accosted by the exotic beast/hypersexualized black man has a long history in the Western racist/imperialist imagination. If Liebovitz really doesn't know that history behind the image, she's as guilty of ignorance as she would be of purposeful racism."

Or maybe, just maybe, she thought that a playful jibe at the imagery of that racist imperialist tradition would allow us to reflect just how far we've come since then. That we can look at a picture like that in context and not jump to knee-jerk racism accusations. Clearly, she was off her rocker, though.

"It plays on years of racist fears and racial and sexist stereotypes. That's what makes it racist."

I guess that's the logic I don't understand: if an artist references something culturally negative in their work, then they must be promoting it. Surely there is room for a little more nuance than that?

I mean, you say that because of the racist imperialist tradition, Gisele should be seen as being "accosted" in that picture. I, on the other hand, seeing that she is clearly not being "accosted" think that the picture does not belong to the racist imperialist tradition.

London's picture

Hoopla

I'm black and i don't at all find it rasist.

I think today in 2008 Black men and European women are given highest rankings in sport and in modeling and I Think its simple being celebrated Some black people and cultural aware people should see that ideology is what you make of it and where i come from and what i see is like the second or third sports man to grace the pages of vogue is a black man.

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fallonash's picture

I don't see it either...

I am not an American, what little I know of American history I've gathered over the years from movies and TV, nor had I ever seen the King King posters until a few minutes ago. With that background, I fail to see it as either racist or sexist, although I agree that there are definitely similarities with the King Kong poster, now that I've had them pointed out to me.

I don't watch a lot of sport, but what little I watch tends to be track and field, and his expression doesn't differ much from what most of the athletes look like at times when they're competing, male and female of any ethnicity. And it's to illustrate an article on the bodies of models and athletes, of course he's gonna be displaying his muscles. And she doesn't look at all like a victim. Physically, she's of course tiny next to him, but her facial expression is not that of a victim, she seems happy and confident to me.

That said, I don't care much for the first two images, they're a bit boring. However, the last one, where they're both jumping (or appear to be jumping, I wish her feet were visible), I think that's gorgeous. The contrast of their different bodies, the sky, just beautiful.

judeliao's picture

Racist? Controversial?

Yes, maybe as some said, LBJ, and Gisele, got his pocket full out of this series of photo shots.

But I think what we need to think is not if LBJ is the victom of racism or/and if Gisele is a victom of sexism her. Rather, we should think about why we still read black bodies this way, connecting to animal, hypermasculine (and thus herteosexual), and why these images sell.

I mean, do we really think there is no more racism, sexism or ethnocentric, if members of minority are able to make living, good ones, by selling the images we've all immersed in forever?

Also, in a somehow different direction, this might be interesting to some as well.

SpeedyPuma's picture

Total Hoopla

Honestly, when I look at the cover, all I see is a really bad shot of Gisele.

I am noticing lately, however, that people are looking for controversy, even when there may not be any. Everyone loves a good fight, eh?

jackie trent's picture

Totally!

Cat, you said it better than I could.

 I think it's an AWFUL picture. But I don't see anything really offensive about it.

TiffanyACrawford's picture

Please don't kill Art!!!

Annie Leibowitz is an artist.  Photography is one of the more scrutinized forms of art because it involves people, and people are insecure.  So when insecure people see a cover like this one they get all socially aware and mount a crusade to save the ideas that they hold most dear, however what they fail to understand is that the image that they are pitchforking for the burning of is NOT REAL!  It is the vision of the artist who rendered the image.  So before we start shouting racism and sexual inequality we have to stop and think about whether or not we really want to kill art.  Afterall, every complaint and pc crusade kills a little piece of our freedom of expression which as we all know is very limited as it is.

 

SallySeton's picture

*eye roll*

Nobody here is forming a mob to go tear the issues of Vogue from the racks of every supermarket in the country and then to capture and stone Liebovitz. Annie is free to make the images she wants, and I am free to call her an ignorant bigot for some of them. That's what freedom of expression is about.

Artists have freedoms, and they have responsibilities. If their work is irresponsible, socially, politically, or otherwise, I have the right to say so and the right to speak of certain "artists" as shallow, sensationalist hacks. That does nothing to harm that artist's freedom of expression. I never said she couldn't do it. But I will not hesitate to say she ought not to do it, or to suggest that if she were even slightly more thoughtful she would've realized this was a needlessly offensive, historically blind photograph.

 

miss chatelaine's picture

To be honest,

I didn't think, and still don't think it's racist or sexist. Deliberately controversial, perhaps yes. And maybe it's because I'm not really familiar with King Kong (gigantic gorillas? bah) or American culture, but as a racial minority and as a woman, I don't see it as degrading or insulting or horrific. Gisele's not being mauled or victimised by the evil black LeBron, and I don't think it's promoting female idiocy and gullibility by suggesting that white women believe that all black men are good despite their evil exteriors.

As a mixed race person, I just kind of like it that there's a white woman and a black man on the cover of Vogue, and that both of them look like they're enjoying themselves. I do consider myself a feminist, but that doesn't mean that if a man has his hand around a woman's waist he's evil, possessive and wants to claim all women as his property. And as I said, maybe it's because I'm not American, that I don't see LeBron James' expression as beastly or scary or frightening or apelike or negative - he has the same expression I probably would have if I had my arm wrapped around Gisele's waist. of course, I'd probably come up to her armpit and that wouldn't make for a good picture. But hey, it's just my opinion.

here's an interesting link to an interesting opinion about it:
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/apr/01/na-no-need-to-read-racism-into-vogue-cover/

what I do think is interesting is that both african-american AND caucasian men AND women have very opposing views on this - some caucasian men think it's all right, some african-american men think it's all right. Thank goodness the response to it isn't categorised by race, I think it would mean American society is regressing more than anything.

Lemona's picture

Don't see the Kong

Honestly, I have trouble seeing the Kong imagery based on LeBron James with a fierce kind of expression.  I find it coincidental and the similarities are not convincing, both when it comes to Giselle and LeBron.  Giselle looks happy, they have their arms around each other: it is not LeBron possessively holding Giselle.  Their body positions show both to be powerful, in control, in stylized positions based on their careers - Giselle looks like more of a commercial model, LeBron looks like he's crouched over while dribbling the basketball.  Also, none of the other images in the series (I flipped through all of them) reflect the Kong theme, and Annie Leibovitz is BIG on themes.

I see more of a racist implication in white people reading this cover as if it is "animalistic", and then finding a historical image that matches their interpretation.  Whether or not that was Leibovitz's goal is debateable.

Pyewacket's picture

An athlete and a model.

That is what I first saw with this cover, in all honesty. Once I read that there is a controversy, I tried to see for myself what it was but only after reading about the comparisons did I understand what people are talking about. I am not a big follower of either Gisele's or LeBron's careers but from what I read he is very aggressive on the court and thus maybe that is where the cover pose came from.
damnhippie's picture

I think they posed them to

I think they posed them to highlight what Vogue thinks makes them the "best bodies."  Lebron is athletic, Giselle is model-y.  (and are any of the other athletes highlighted in that article women?  I be suprised to find they are...but that's another fish to fry.)

It seems pretty clear that they aren't posing them this way to imply that black men are more animalistic or prey on white women.  It is also clear, though, that no one on the Vogue staff noticed the King Kong similarities, or worse--didn't think those similarities would be a problem.  That's just disgustingly insensitive and unaware.

The question for me is, how many people of color are on the editorial board at Vogue?  From the little I've looked up, not much and no African Americans.  This is what people talk about when they say diversity is an asset.  If the Vogue staff (especially the senior staff) was more diverse, would this have gotten through?  Would they have been as insensitive and unaware?

Imsuchanerd's picture

Give me a break...

This photo has to be the lamest catalyst for a discussion on racism ever.  Leibovitz hasn't commented on the cover?  Why should she?  It simply verifies how hypersensitive society has become.  Annie did her job.  It's a picture portraying two talented people with great bodies (hence the "Shape Issue").   
dopedupdawl's picture

Spot on.

Seriously, I'm right with you on this one.

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Simma's picture

I dunno

Ok now I'm from Barbados, in the West Indies (no we are not in Jamaica nor the virgin islands nor part of the Bahamas, google it). I find that the US, for a country that is always saying they are the land of the free and the most democratic and blah blah blah that you guys are obsessed with race. When I saw the cover, I didn't even see King Kong nor the defenseless white woman being clutched by a brutal screaming black man theory. First thing she looks like she's hugging him with one arm and as we say in Barbados, she skinning she teeth like if she eat roast dog (translation: she has a pretty wide smile on her face and looks quite happy) The picture looks like any other magazine shot - unforgettable after two weeks because you move on to something else unless its on your coffee table in full view.

Don't shoot me now, when I studied the similarities I can see the writer's point on the King Kong analogy. However, if it was a racist inspired concept or if it would have been viewed as racist, don't you think LeBron would have the common sense to tell Liebowitz to "haul her ass?" He's not taking such a pic? I find people in the world always make a mountain out of a mole hill and things that they should be yacking about (e.g. rap videos that feature fair skin or latino women as the ideal girls while the only glimpse of a dark skin black woman is shaking her 'ass'ets cause she's a big booty ho') seems to be everyday, no worries. There will always be racist,racists notions whether intended or not and plain small minded jackasses running around the place. I'm predominately black mixed with Amerindian and a bit of Dutch and when I come across a racist person, thats my time to have fun with him or her because they are so stupid or as the Trinis (Trinidadians) say dotish and stupidy.

 

 

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black_nikita's picture

Completely agree with you!!

Completely agree with you!! I think that every day more people are more and more obsessed and sensitive with race. I see the cover..and I just think..OK.! but how a girl says before ... the press need controversy to sell more!

L Tizzle's picture

Can we all just take a moment?

I think what everyone is failing to realize here, is that LeBron James is a basketball player, and a bombastic one at that.  His race has nothing to do with the way he's posed in this picture.  Gisele Bundchen is a dainty model, obviously, this is not the first time she has been posed this way.  If he was pictured this way in an ad for Under Armor or Gatorade, or her in an ad for cosmetics,  this would be a non-issue.  The picture is also on the cover of the shape issue.  LeBron is portraying the strong man and Bundchen is the petite, sexy lady.  The similarities to the King Kong poster are there, yes, but that does not make the photo racist.  Liebowitz understands more than many photographers what prejudice is and would probably never do something that she thought was racist.  Perhaps she chose to utilize the King Kong imagery due to LeBron towering over Gisele at 6'8".  Should tall people, therefore be offended?  James is one of the most popular athletes of the day, perhaps of all time.  If Mark McGuire or one of the Mannings were the man in this photo, would anyone have a problem with the photo?

What I think is the more pressing issue here is the fact that so many people view this as racist.  Yes, our country does have a sad history of racism, but the only way to move beyond it is to learn from it.  We, especially as lesbian and bisexual women, must work towards equality.  By searching for racism where it does not overtly exist, we are only further dividing this country. 

Simma's picture

Another thing

People need to educate themselves on other people and their cultures. They need to understand certain things about different groups. A comment made by Hannah on the fact that no one was aware of the similarities between King Kong was insensative and unaware I can agree with her point of view really, owing to the fact that the potrayal may imply certain images to society as it stands today. Then again there are not much people of colour and no African Americans as researched on the vogue board. But questions folk, do you think if there were some people of colour on the board that the cover would not have gone through?

Secondly the comment from imsuchanerd is on point - society too hypersensitive and yes, its just a photo showcasing great bodies from two different genres - sports and modelling.

Don't think i'm attacking americans for their oversensitivity on race, but here in Barbados, Barbadians are just as hypersensitive and very two faced. I bet the PanAfrican movement here is going to be raising hell and high water over that magazine cover in 3...2...1...

 

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shygurl99's picture

I can see why some people see racism

Also, it bothers me that some people would say people are being too sensitive about this cover. Have we all forgotten that racism still exists? If you don't agree that the images is racist , that's your opinion and that's fine. No one sees the same image the same way. Maybe we should be happy that now more people are being more sensitive towards how black people are portrayed in the media.

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lunakiss's picture

Your Brains R Programmed To Think Racism

This cover is not a racist statement b/c Lebron James has a darker skin pigment than Gisele. You all r programmed to think racism b/c you have not destroyed your programmed thinking of black is victim,bad,etc versuses white as hereos and good. If LeBron was very light-skin, would it have been a problem? what if A White male basketball player was holding a light-skin A-A/Multi-racialsupermodel? Why do you think that way? As a womyn who comes from a light skin mother and very dark-skin farther. I found this article offensive and a lot of your comments. You r a racist for thinking the cover is a racist cover. I'll feel sorry for you all. Please work on yourselves!
shortypants's picture

I don't see this as racist

 

I am a proud, black woman and I honestly didn't see the Kong similarities until they  were pointed out.  There's really nothing I can add that hasn't already been said here  so 'Ditto' to all the responses stating 'No- I don't think so' and 'It's just a photo-and not a great one at that.'

 

 

fairly butch's picture

King Kong Ding Dong

like most discussions on issues surrounding racism/sexism/homophobia/anti-Semitism/(insert your own category here), it's greatly heightened by the immediacy of a recent past - in the case of the USA, the shameful and painful period of slavery and segregation. 

as a (white) European living on the other side of the Atlantic, i have the benefit of distance and so can look at the image and not immediately be reviled by it - but it's not for me to decide if it's offensive or not.  what does LeBron think?  or Gisele?  i'm sure that neither of them are dummies, and if they were happy to go with the pose requested for the picture, then that speaks for itself.  but it is a hugely charged issue for Americans, particularly now with the Democratic Presidential nominees seemingly intent on raking up racism and sexism charges against each other and looking to hand yet another White House to the Republicans.  sigh....

miss_zabone's picture

Gisele is not a victim here...

First of all, if you look at the 1933 shot of King Kong you'd see that woman has a look of terror on her face as she's being swept up into King Kong's arms. And in this photo, Gisele has the biggest sh*t-eating grin on her face that I've ever seen. Like over the top smiling. If she looked like she was somehow uncomfortable or struggling that would be one thing, but she's cheesing it up for the camera BIG TIME. And you know what, that context matters...like A LOT.

There is part of me that wonders if people aren't just uncomfortable with seeing bi-racial images between a large black man and a petite white woman who obviously seems to be giving off an heir of happiness, despite his over-the-top masculine prowess portrayal. If Gisele had been pictured with a white man of LeBron's stature would there still be such hoopla? And I know, I'm begging the question here, but I think it's more that people are uncomfortable to see her so happy right next to this imposing manly man, and liking it.

Let's face it...LeBron is hot by a lot of people's standards. He may not be my cup of tea, but I bet a lot of women would be more than happy to be standing in Gisele's shoes, unafraid, uninhibited, unphased by what is supposed to be intimidating or imposing. A lot of women like manly men. And c'mon, I hardly think dribbling a basketball has quite the connotation of violent mysogyny. Besides, if LeBron had felt even remotely uncomfortable or believed there to be any shady context of race betrayal during the photo shoot, he could have said something to Ms. Leibovitz, but he obviously did not. So I dunno...I think people need to lighten up.

The only reason that I'm bringing up the bi-racial issue is that I've been in bi-racial relationships with both men and women. On many occasions I have had the experience of walking down the street holding my lovers' hand (yes, even in the 21st century) and seeing how disgusted and uncomfortable people can get.  I know that this photo does in no way depict romantic involvment, but I was just trying to create a context to discuss the bi-racial issue which is what I think is making (certain) people uncomfortable.  

wryterzblock's picture

I'm black...

... and I don't see where I should be offended in the least. 

Neither do I get offended by the usage of words like "lynch" or anything else that supposedly conjurs racist imagery.

The past is just that.  PAST.  While we should definitely be mindful of it, we shouldn't spend all of our time looking so deeply into something that people are eventually AFRAID to speak.  There is nothing worse than having a white person look at me in fear and trembling because they are so worried about not offending me that they are ultimately uncomfortable even being around me. 

I'm still surprised that this is an issue... I mean, really.  Can't we just keep moving forward without being dragged back?

 

 

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I agree

wryterzblock wrote:

There is nothing worse than having a white person look at me in fear and trembling because they are so worried about not offending me that they are ultimately uncomfortable even being around me. 

I agree - it's not so much that majority race people (whatever country you come from) put you down or treat you negatively, it's that they're so afraid of offending you that through that they offend you. It's sort of the same way, that people are so terrified shitless of talking to someone who's in a wheelchair, or is short, or is obese, because they don't want to accidentally make a reference to ANYTHING that could offend. You know, like saying "I love cake" to a fat person and then immediately covering your mouth in horror. Sometimes hypersensitivity can be a bit of a hindrance to communication.

oh, and i love your avatar :)


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